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Molly Monet

Molly Monet

Posted: March 3, 2011 04:50 AM

The most recent divorce gloom and doom comes from Tara Parker-Pope's Well blog from the New York Times where she reported that sons of divorce are three times more likely to consider suicide than males whose parents weren't divorced. As confident as I am about my parenting skills, news like that always makes me cringe a bit. First, because I hate to think of that being true. Second, because so much of the news on divorce is so grim. That's why I share my divorce experience so that people can see that the members of divorced families can still thrive if they choose peace over resentment and anger.

As the divorced mother of an eight-year-old son I feel compelled to find a positive spin on this report or come up with a possible solution. When these kinds of alarming statistics come our way, it is a good opportunity for us to be more mindful about how we are raising our children. Perhaps we need to pay special attention to how our boys are responding to their parents' divorces. Instead of lamenting how divorce is destroying future generations, let's come up with some ideas to help kids cope with their (and our) setbacks.

Here are a few of my suggestions.

1) It is important for boys to have a constant relationship with their fathers. I am a big advocate for both parents having as much contact with their kids as possible. This is why my ex and I both see the kids almost every day. Our custody arrangement is unique that way because our kids spend four nights a week with me and three nights a week with him. Luckily we live 5 minutes away from each other and can come and go with ease. I have noticed that my son is particularly attached to my ex and sometimes calls him and asks him to come over to tuck him in at night. My ex usually says yes.

2) It is also great to cultivate a strong relationship between your son and other men in your life. When we spend time in California, Jonah definitely gravitates more to my dad and really enjoys spending time with him. He is also close with his best friend's single dad with whom he has sleepovers once or twice a month. It's a total boyfest, and they do activities I would never dream of. Lastly, he also takes a weekly karate class with my friend Tobey, and they have developed a wonderful mentor-student relationship. Tobey is a great role model for him and Jonah adores him. These relationships give him a wide range of ideas about masculinity and help him build a strong sense of identity.

3) Always speak well of his father and other men in general. One of the best pieces of advice that I got when I split from my husband was to always make the kids feel like they have the best father ever. Certainly a child feels stronger about himself when he thinks that he has people he can count on. He naturally wants to feel proud of his parents. When we mothers are frustrated with our ex-husbands (or other men we are dating), it is important for us to avoid male bashing. I sometimes fall into the trap of openly disparaging certain unpleasant characteristics that are associated with the male gender, but then I remind myself that I have a future man listening to what I say. I want my son to feel good about his masculinity and know that I admire the men in my life.

4) Encourage your son to talk about his feelings. My son has always been very intuitive and empathetic, traits that aren't usually typical of young boys. I certainly can't take credit for that because he seems to have a natural sense of how people feel, but I do know that I have always encouraged and fomented it. My ex is by nature temperamental and moody, and Jonah and I often talk about how he handles his moods. He understands that he is never to blame for someone else's state of mind and has developed strategies to remain calm and happy regardless of the circumstances of the people around him.

Recently, I made the mistake of letting my kids watch the movie Coraline one Friday night before we went to bed. My six-year-old daughter was both mesmerized and really scared by it and told us that she couldn't fall asleep. Jonah immediately jumped in and told her to think about things that made her happy. He reminded her of three or four occasions during the holidays that had made her laugh. Sure enough, soon she was giggling and happy again. I, personally, was flabbergasted and extremely impressed at his ability to 1) notice moments that brought Layla joy, 2) remember them, and 3) bring them up as a means of helping her dispel her feelings of fear.

Clearly I am biased, but I have to say that my son is a boy who is happy, confident, and has excellent interpersonal skills. He is certainly not going to be some depressing statistic that proves that divorce is damaging to children. I truly believe that with some creativity and dedication on our parts, all our sons of divorce can have equally positive futures ahead of them, and that researchers will soon have to do new studies to report our successes.

 
 
 
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D. A. Wolf
Writer, Daily Plate of Crazy
10:08 AM on 03/22/2011
As a journalist, I know that statistics and studies can be used to support a point, shaped as desired. I don't find this particular study and its conclusions to be valid.

As a long time single mother to two sons, I also take exception to some of your points. Not all parents are good role models. That applies to men and women alike. I am thankful my sons have been raised by me, my set of ethics and values, with relatively little influence from the other parent.

Your situation, Molly, is not necessarily representative of the reality that many divorced parents live. As for raising healthy sons - or daughters - I think we owe them our best, and our honesty. We also owe them as many good and positive influences of both genders.
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MollyLive
Educator and peaceful divorce blogger
05:38 PM on 03/22/2011
D, I know that there are situations, like yours, in which the kids have no contact with their father. That is reality. Mothers like you do an amazing job at what is a very hard task. Yet, I'm sure that your sons have also found other men that they look up to as role models. We all do that outside of our parents.

My situation is different, but it is my hope is that it could inspire others to think about reaching out more to their ex spouses and realizing that a man can be a great father even though he isn't a great romantic partner.
07:44 PM on 03/20/2011
I do not agree with allowing the ex to come over every day, to tuck in the children at your house,etc... It just fosters confusion for the child. Are Mom and Dad divorced or just sort of divroced? How does your new spouse like your daily contact and frequent visits from the ex? If the new spouse doesn't like it and asks for that frequent contact to stop, will the child resent the step-parent for "taking daddy/mommy away!"? Most family therapist agree that divorced parents should have strict boundaries that help to establish new, individual lives for the parents. It sounds like you two are still married just sleeping in seperate rooms. Most of my friends have divorced parents and so do I. None of us are suicidal and it would have been weird if my dad were at my mom's house everyday. I am divorced and my ex and I have clear boundaries of privacy and time. We share our kids, discuss them on the phone but do not jerk them back and forth on a daily basis or confuse them as to our relationship with each other. My ex and his new wife raise them with me but I talk to them on a need to know basis. Our relationship is a business now and our children are our product.
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MollyLive
Educator and peaceful divorce blogger
05:29 PM on 03/22/2011
My ex and I are forging a different kind of divorce, one that we believe is great for our kids. It's not all business. Our marriage wasn't a business contract so why should our divorce be such? Yes, we have the benefits of marriage while living apart and being involved with other people, who are quite accepting of this arrangement. My philosophy is more love is more love, and now my kids have more adults who love them. My ex's girlfriend and I are friendly and at times we all have dinner together. This kind of peace and continued friendship are great for all of us, including my ex and me. It's nice to know that we haven't lost each other as friends just because we couldn't make it as romantic partners.
01:53 PM on 03/20/2011
Sorry, but while well-meaning, I found this horribly WEAK (even sappy), particularly for a general audience of past or potential divorcees. I am an adult child of divorce, now a mom of two teen-age boys, currently too broke to split up, but hoping/planning after the first one starts college in 2012 to separate from their uncooth, alcoholic dad.

I saw gaping holes here. I so agree adamantly with zero dad-bashing. In fact, I endured that from my own mom for decades, until I said "no more" around age 30. But it seems naive, actually damaging, "to always make the kids feel like they have the best father ever." Huh? Kids know reality. My boys have an unreliable, alcoholic father. While I abhor all parent-bashing, it could be just as harmful to paint a false, rosey portrait. Why not a wise, balanced medium? To my verbal 13-year-old who's "fed up" with his dad, I say: "I understand completely you've had your trials, but he's still a good soul, loves you dearly, and one day you can hopefully be close again." To my son of 17, who fears he might upset one parent if he shows any favortism, I've assured him: "Your dad and I have our differences, but no matter what, please go ahead and have the best possible relationship with him. Nothing would make me happier."

Your appraoch to this subject was unrelatable -- for me, and I suspect, many others.
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MollyLive
Educator and peaceful divorce blogger
03:30 PM on 03/20/2011
I am sorry that you have had such a bad experience both as a child of divorce and in your current marriage. My kids are 6 and 8, though, and have no idea what substance abuse is. My ex did suffer from that but seems to have it under control now, thankfully.

However, as long as he treats them with kindness and respect, which he does, I plan to do the same with him. I don't think its a falsely rosy portrait. Despite my ex's shortcomings as a partner and a provider, he has been a great dad. The kids will draw their own conclusions when they are older and have different criteria to judge him by. We have had honest discussions about his anger, so I am sure they will trust me to discuss whatever other issues may arise.

Good luck with your own marriage and kids.
07:59 PM on 03/20/2011
Molly, sincere thanks you for your thoughtful and insightful reply. I apologize for sounding unduly harsh. Anyway, I'm compelled to to clarify a few things and would appreciate your opinion some other dynamics, too. However, I goofed and used the first part of my e-mail address that every last person I know would recognize -- though I'd meant to remain anonymous (!) and did choose "most restrictive" account setting, to be viewed by "no one." Before writing further, can you tell me if my comments are indeed hidden from any other viewers besides yourself? And/or if there's SOME way I can change my user name? Thank you again.
11:13 PM on 03/14/2011
This is a good article. I warned my ex about bad effects of divorce on kids and finances before she filed-- there are numerous similar studies. Later I learned she was having an affair with a married man, and tried to zero our bank accounts. Eldest teen daughter is incredibly rude to both of us. My eldest son seems depressed. Talk-therapy is useless to smart kids. While it is difficult to hold my tongue, it is really better not to mention details to kids. It is not the kid's jobs to fight an old battle for the divorced parents. When asked, I stick with public facts, like 'your mother filed for divorce'.

Even best case with educated parents and 2 OK incomes, the reality is that kids inevitably are hurt by divorce. We have a marriage and divorce industry in this country along with tax policy that promotes unions and divorce far more than it should happen. Before you throw in the towel though, work your problems, folks. Give a little, doesn't mean giving up your soul. Don't count on therapy: count on yourself to come up with something suprising or creative to bridge that divide. Peace.
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onionboy
Blessed are the Cheese Makers
12:41 PM on 03/11/2011
#3 is super important, particularly as it relates to the father. Mothers, no matter what kind of saint or bum your ex was, half of him is in your son. Your son knows this. Even if the guy completely abandoned the family, withhold obvious judgment. If you call him a drunk or a philanderer, whether you mean to or not, you're saying it about your son. If the kid's old man is a bum, he'll figure it out soon enough, probably sometime in the teen years. But by then, he'll be his own person already, and won't personalize quite so much.

--Signed,
Son of a single mother who knew how to do it right.
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MollyLive
Educator and peaceful divorce blogger
03:42 PM on 03/11/2011
What a wise and wonderful comment. Thank you for sharing your perspective on this!
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Ed Baker
Militant Moderate
04:37 PM on 03/14/2011
Further, he sees his father as the adult actualization of himself. Run down dad - and you're only making your son sick about himself.

Dads - same thing for moms and daughters.
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MollyLive
Educator and peaceful divorce blogger
08:14 PM on 03/14/2011
Absolutely!
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visitrubyfalls
10:29 PM on 03/07/2011
Glad to read Molly's eight year old son is doing well. Mine was too at that age. A friendly warning: it is around 6th grade that things start to go wrong. Slowly, but unstoppable, by high school, his grades and attitude will be breaking your heart.
09:08 AM on 03/07/2011
Wonderful article, Molly. I particularly like your point about being careful not to male-bash. Even in marriage, there is a tendency to "bash" or joke about our husband's failings (of course forgetting that we ladies have our own too). You make an important reminder that a future man is listening/observing (this advice applies equally well to those of us with future women in our lives).
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MollyLive
Educator and peaceful divorce blogger
09:39 AM on 03/07/2011
Thanks, Mel. Gender bias or even gender generalizations are much more pervasive than we often realize. You make a good point that this is something certainly not limited to divorced parents nor to mothers of boys. We could all be more mindful of the ways in which we represent gender to our kids.
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onionboy
Blessed are the Cheese Makers
04:20 PM on 03/11/2011
I've seen spouses endlessly bash the ex (and possibly the ex's gender in general) and then are shocked when their kid marries a complete shrew/jerk. Of course! That's how their parent taught them the opposite sex is expected to act.

So, since we're discussing sons, mothers should strive to act like the daughter-in-law they wish to have one day.
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MollyLive
Educator and peaceful divorce blogger
08:07 AM on 03/12/2011
Well put. I do hope my son marries someone like me ;)
10:39 AM on 03/12/2011
Agree! We all need to be aware of what we say and do.
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Deborah Moskovitch
Author, Divorce Consultant and Educator, Radio Hos
04:07 PM on 03/06/2011
I agree with your points, and thank you for this wise article. As a mother of three children (2 boys, 1 girl), I do sometimes fear what the impact of my divorce might be on my children – especially living through a high conflict situation. However, my extensive research though The Smart Divorce has taught me that we need to provide our children with some valuable messages: 1) we love them very much 2) the divorce is not their fault and 3) provide them with a sense of security. Often times at the beginning of divorce parenting skills diminish. It is important to be cognizant of that fact, so that you work through your emotions to provide good parenting. If you are having trouble, then I suggest you seek the help of a parenting expert. If you feel that your children are troubled, then seek the support of a therapist, or a trusted friend who can remain neutral – and not take sides. Being a good role model to your children, role modeling healthy, loving relationships, and allowing your child to have a relationship with both parents (and their new partner), will go a long way to helping children though the negative fallout of divorce. For other thoughts and ideas, you might want to read my book -The Smart Divorce.
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MollyLive
Educator and peaceful divorce blogger
10:00 PM on 03/06/2011
I will definitely check it out, Deborah. Thanks for your input.
07:31 AM on 03/06/2011
Thank you for a great column.
My question is this: if you praise the child's father ("You have the best father") and speak only highly of him, then doesn't it follow that it must have been you who broke up this happy family? And since it is usually the mother who has primary custody, she must live with children who deeply resent her for that.
Conventional wisdom suggests saying things like, even good people can change and drift apart, but drifting apart must seem like a very shallow reason to a child whose whole world has been turned upside down.
I have never told my son, who is now 32, that the reason I filed for divorce so long ago was because his father had a long term relationship with another woman and even had a child with her. It feels like this is TMI for a son to hear. But, as close and loving a relationship as we have, I know my son judges the divorce as something I chose to do without considering how much it would hurt him.
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MollyLive
Educator and peaceful divorce blogger
08:22 AM on 03/06/2011
That is a very interesting question. My kids know that we fought a lot, and they understand that is the reason why we broke up. They also see that my ex struggles with his temper, and we have discussed ways in which for them to cope with it. While they are young still, I am confident that they will get that relationships are complicated, that people can grow apart, that couples can love each other and still not get along, that life is full of gray areas but that you can find happiness within you no matter what the external circumstances are.

I sincerely believe that you did the right thing by not telling your son about his father's infidelity. I really admire your discretion. I imagine that would be hard. Our kids will always judge us for something, but it's great that you know that you have done right by him and the love you have between you always takes precedence.
12:53 PM on 03/06/2011
Thank you for your very kind, thoughtful response.
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Vicki Larson
Journalist, mom, thinker
10:17 AM on 03/20/2011
wakupmagy — I, too am judged my one of my two sons because the words "I want a divorce" came out of my mouth, and his Dad "apologized" so why didn't I "forgive" him? He was 9 at the time we divorced and his brother was 12. There's never a good age to divorce (although I jokingly wrote that it's best right after a baby's born, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/vicki-larson/the-best-time-to-divorce_b_805083.html), but this was tender time for both my boys, especially the younger one. And they both knew some of the details that prompted the divorce (infidelity, alcohol).

We talked about how just because you forgive (and I have), things don't necessarily stay the same. He has struggled with that, and I accept that he will probably hold that against me all his life. Guess I'll be keeping a shrink employed someday down the road ...
06:30 PM on 03/05/2011
It may not be that the divorce process itself is entirely to blame. Maybe it's the reasons for the divorce -- the domestic violence, the mental illness, the financial irresponsibility -- all of these affect a child's feelings for the parents and for himself. My son hates his father. I wish it could be otherwise, but his father has a personality disorder that makes him too difficult for a child, or most adults, to deal with. If I had not divorced, the effects of the personality disorder on my son would be worse.
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MollyLive
Educator and peaceful divorce blogger
06:59 PM on 03/05/2011
That makes a lot of sense.
Guest211
Stars Exploded to Make Me
02:47 PM on 03/05/2011
One can easily improve the outcome for sons of divorce by contacting the Mens Bar Association. As the group who takes on Mens issues, the Mens bar association is out there fighting for our sons to have a brighter future. They can be located at....er..... they can be located by..... um.... Well, I guess there is no Mens Bar Association. Its beyond time.
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MollyLive
Educator and peaceful divorce blogger
07:45 AM on 03/05/2011
Thank you all for your spirited debates. I just wanted to make a couple of responses in reference to the comments that have been made.

1) While studies are helpful for understanding sociological trends, they are, as several have pointed out, certainly undertaken with an agenda in mind. For example, the mere questioning of children of divorce if they have considered committing suicide reflects that the researchers believed that divorce was detrimental to children. What I am hoping to achieve here is an emphasis on peaceful co-parenting and positive role modeling for boys (and girls) that allows them to thrive in way that might be reflected in further studies if researchers were to decide to investigate that.

2) My intention is not to say that divorce is better but to say that it is here, real, and often in the best interests of those involved. There are clearly those who would like to make divorces harder to achieve. I, on the other hand, take the approach that it is a phenomenon that doesn't have to be as detrimental as it is if ex spouses and co-parents forgo the bitterness and resentment that often occur as a result. I would like to see co-parents working together better for the sake of the children.

Thanks again for your participation in the debate.
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rosey7
08:42 PM on 03/13/2011
MollyLive,

If only divorces could be done with less conflict. Unfortunately, each person has to cooperate and want the same things for their children. Generally, divorce is wanted by one spouse more than the other. Whether it's because of an affair, alcoholism- any number of reasons- it's not usually two level headed people putting aside their own differences in the best interest of the children. One of my sons was 19 when my ex and I divorced. His father immediately emancipated our great college students, taking them from a life of great privilege to one where they were bar backing and I was selling whatever I could just to keep them in their apt. Fast forward, my Alex Keaton, straight as an arrow kid marries a woman ... It's a long story. I said to my daughter at the time, I just don't see stars in his eyes, I see them in her's, but his eyes bespeak doing the right thing. 18 months later, she insists on doing in vitro- she is 8 years older than he is and wants a baby now. He freaks and she sends him to a therapist. He came back from one session saying he was not happy, should never have married, did not want kids and didn't want to repeat his parents marriage. A divorce he never processed because of it's cruelty to all of us. Until that moment, we all thought of that child as being the most balanced of our brood.
08:01 PM on 03/04/2011
This is such a fresh perspective on parenting after a divorce. While I don't doubt that divorce is possibly one of the most harrowing experiences to have to endure as a person and as a parent, it's so wonderful to hear stories like yours, Molly, where parent-child and parent-parent relationships not only can survive but actually thrive and evolve into ones where love and humanity still take center stage long after the papers have been signed. Thank you for this bright spot on a mostly bleak and depressing subject!
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MollyLive
Educator and peaceful divorce blogger
08:56 PM on 03/04/2011
Thanks for your support, Belinda. I want to show people that divorce can be done with dignity and love and that children of divorcees can be happy and healthy children.
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Lorene Martinez
03:49 PM on 03/04/2011
Molly, thank you. My husband recently chose to leave our family and it has been very difficult emotionally for all of us. However, your article (and your blog) have given me hope that with enough love and caring we can get through this. I am going to strive for peace with my ex because the kids love their father and they deserve our very best efforts to make this as peaceful and positive as possible. You really turned my though processes around by sharing your experience. I hope that other parents out there that have had similar experiences will speak up too.
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MollyLive
Educator and peaceful divorce blogger
06:01 PM on 03/04/2011
Thank you for sharing and for taking the plunge into peace. It does require self awareness and discipline because hurt feeling often cause us to react from a place that isn't always conducive to peace. But if you are patient and kind to both yourself and your ex, you will find that the dynamic between you can change quite dramatically. I am so happy to hear that I have inspired you to a better place for your whole family. Good luck and keep me posted on your progress!
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Nicole Dixson
11:48 AM on 03/04/2011
We can help our sons by reminding ourselves that we are raising a child, not a statistic. I do not give life to any statistic that says my son is automatically going to be troubled because his father is not around. I speak hope, happiness, confidence and success to my son daily. I refuse to settle for any other outcome. He doesn't either.
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MollyLive
Educator and peaceful divorce blogger
01:26 PM on 03/04/2011
Wonderful words, Nicole. I'm so glad that you have shared. I agree about statistics and I offer only my experience as evidence. Unfortunately, though, statistics and studies usually get more press than individuals. That's why I was eager to share my story. Thanks for sharing yours!
07:20 PM on 03/04/2011
Can you will yourself to not get cancer even though you smoke six packs a day? It's good to be optimistic, but we should be guided by the knowledge we get from these studies. If you want to help your son, why not reverse your course and actively try to get his father more involved in his life?
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Nicole Dixson
07:29 PM on 03/04/2011
Do you know me? I think not. If you did you would know I have done everything in my power to have my son's father involved in his life. In the end, an adult does what an adult wants to do. I also don't think my way of thinking is being optimistic. It is simply living my life and trying to make the best out of a not so great situation. Statistics says that kids are better off in a 2 parent household. However, that statistic didn't hold water to my actual experience. Let's see-2 angry parents (no substances involved-fueled on anger alone), upper middle class household, my father pulling the telephone out of the wall if us kids didn't get off of it fast enough, my father breaking my sister's toe by throwing a jar at her, being left alone with my parents (as I was the youngest) and being put in the middle of arguments all the time. Take your statistics and your advice and have a great day.