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Afghanistan: What Explains Taliban Staying Power?

Posted: 02/13/2012 2:50 pm

The U.S. war in Afghanistan is one of three U.S. wars against low-income countries (Vietnam war and Iraq war) which posed no security threat to the U.S. All parties sustained enormous damages in blood and wealth. In retrospect, the projection of U.S power and influence was superfluous and had no purpose.

Nevertheless, it will be instructive to understand the staying power of the "rag-tag" Afghan Taliban against the awesome military might of the most powerful superpower the world has ever known -- the U.S. military. Ostensibly, the U.S. invasion and occupation of Afghanistan is finally winding down after the longest American war in U.S. history. The decision to wind down American engagement in Afghanistan was announced by U.S. Secretary of Defense, Leon E. Panetta, in a surprise announcement early this month that the U.S. plans to wind down its combat role in Afghanistan a year earlier and turn it over to Afghan forces.

Moreover, the U.S. has encouraged the Taliban to peace talks in Qatar both to end the war and ostensibly formulate a coalition government that would end tribal and ethnic violence in the country. The U.S. move is indeed a wise one to stop the bleeding wound (over 2000 U.S. soldiers dead and some 20,000 injured) and loss of direct wealth of approximately $264 billion ($2 billion per month for 132 months). It is an opportunity for the U.S. to declare victory over the Taliban, take its losses, quit and end this unwinnable war.

The Taliban sustained enormous losses over the last 10+ years of resistance including 396,000 dead, 792,000 inured and 65,000 civilian casualties plus destruction of some 12,000 villages.
In light of this destruction, why did the Taliban not bend? Following are a number of socio-cultural and ethnic traits that shed some light on the issue.

  1. The Taliban are of Pashtun tribe residing in Afghanistan and Pakistan. The Pashtun tribe is the largest single tribe in the world (approximately 27 million). They conquered India seven times and were invaded by Alexander the Great, the Mongols. Great Britain (four times), the Soviet Union, and the United States. It is the graveyard of empires. It is axiomatic that the way a nation/people perceives its history is a strong influence of whether its society can resist foreign domination. Taliban belief that history is on their side is an invaluable moral asset in resisting a desperate war against an "invader" possessing massive advantage in mobility, fire power, wealth and political cohesion.

  2. The U.S. reached the same conclusion as Great Britain did during the 1980s -- that the volatility of Afghan politics and the costs of maintaining large armies in a remote and difficult countryside (twice the size of Texas) is prohibitive. The Soviet soldiers (1979-89) occupied every one of the 36,000 villages and the minute they withdrew they lost the village. Afghans in general despises foreign occupation causing regular army soldiers not to shoot at Taliban and to make secret accommodations. As a result the Taliban shadow government in many provinces of Afghanistan is ruling.

  3. Whenever there is a vast difference in the fire power of invaders and local resistance, the Afghans have adhered to guerrilla warfare of hit and run as they did against the Soviet forces and as they are doing now against the U.S. forces. The stoic acceptance of death against superior firepower explains the courage and physical toughness of the Taliban. These qualities were attested to by their British opponent during the Anglo-Afghan wars.

  4. Family is the most important unit of social organization and it is impermeable and self-contained unit, extending to clan and tribe. The system is egalitarian and democratic and individualistic. Despite varied ethnic and linguistic groups, their value system is congruent in matters affecting their freedom, dignity, and religion. Any system that attacks the integrity and honor of the Afghan family-clan- tribe is bound to face severe retaliation. Those members of the family/clan/tribe who get killed in resistance are viewed as martyrs and the living members are expected to pursue resistance to the end.

  5. The Taliban are not fanatical about ideologies or political causes. They are traditional Moslems and have a strong belief in the concept of fairness. They reject invasion by foreign forces as unfair and will resist at any cost. The most prized values in Afghan culture are bravery in combat. However, they do have a propensity to settle difference with enemies if it is fair. At times, however, they are stubborn, inflexible and superb bargainers; they will adhere to a position, even if unreasonable. To the bitter end.

It follows that the prospective peace negotiation with the Taliban in Qatar could suffer from communication and structural dissonance if the cultural imperatives are not appropriately considered. For a successful outcome, the negotiators shall be treated with dignity and respect keeping in mind that the political culture of Afghans rejects external authority and emphasizes freedom and independence. The culture is impermeable to the imposition of alien rule. It is doubtful to get Taliban acquiescence to a coalition government with Karzai, if they have any role in government, the current malaise of corruption, drug production, warlords, and drug lords will be eliminated.

 
The U.S. war in Afghanistan is one of three U.S. wars against low-income countries (Vietnam war and Iraq war) which posed no security threat to the U.S. All parties sustained enormous damages in blo...
The U.S. war in Afghanistan is one of three U.S. wars against low-income countries (Vietnam war and Iraq war) which posed no security threat to the U.S. All parties sustained enormous damages in blo...
 
 
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01:41 PM on 02/20/2012
The U.S. decision to wind down military operations in Afghanistan is a rational one and long overdue. The long duration of the war (in its 11th year) has shifted the perception of Afghans about NATO from "savior" to "occupier." Besides, strucural difference between the Afghan soldiers and those of NATO has escalated leading to several casulties of NATO forces such as the French and Australian incidence. In addition, Afghan soldiers are relucant to fight the Taliban due to cultural, religious and future personal security imperatives. The dissonnance between the Afghan and NATO forces is accentuated by the exisence of perceived notions of insult, arrogance, heavy handed procedures, patronizing, overbearing, mutual distate, emnity logistical weakness, budget cuts, and high attrition rate. Also the burgeoning cost is creating a burden on Western nations. For nearly eight years the size of the Afghan army was kept much below opitmal (below 60000), now it is at 230,000 and it is being slated at 350,000. These numbers are beyond the fiscal and budgetary capacity of the Afghan government and heavy burden upon Wesern supportres. A susainable numbetr would be approximately 150,000. Besides, if there is peace, the number could be below 90,000. All of these issues support a peaceful resolution of the war in Afghanistan.
05:09 AM on 02/18/2012
What are the prospects for peace? With the U.s. determination peace with the Taliban is possible and fundamentally it is upto the Afghans sto establish peace for themselves after 35 years of war. The mechanism that could bing about peace requires social cooperation among the contending parties in society as a whole inside and outside of the fromal rules of governance. The processs must draw upon tradditional social behavior of mutual respect, and dignity. It requires a lot of compromises and respecting rules of social behavior and traditional control to ensure eforcement and disciplinary conduct. Diverse ethnic groups have lived in the country in peace which embraces much of antiquity. If they could do it in the past, then it follows that peace is possible now.
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09:07 AM on 02/18/2012
There are no peace talks, there will be no peace talks. The recent NIE and the leaked secret report from Bagram interrogations makes it perectly clear the Taliban are waiting until NATO leaves to resume the offensive and retake power. They have no interest whatsoever in joining the current kleptocracy in Kabul or accepting the current consitution. Furthermore, Pakistan, which created the Taliban nad has been funding, training, and supporting the Taliban for 20 years has no interest in maintaining the current illegitmate and corrupt criminal gang now running the capital city. The Taliban have fought for 20 years to control Afghanistan and they are certainly not going to give up that intention on the eve of victory, as the NIE makes obvioius. Anyone who thinks the war in Afghanistan can or will end in a negotiated settlement is delusional.
01:58 PM on 02/18/2012
A contrast between 11 years of Karzai government and prior Taliban rule does not augur well for Karzai government. In the latest World Bank data, per capita income in Afghanista n is estimated at only $577 with a population of 30.6 million. The unemployment rat4e is 40% and it is ranked 160th country in which to do a business. Nevertheless a few millioniares have been produced. It follows that the people are not happy with the current government. Unfortunatfely, Pakistan is intentg to keep its hold on the Taliban and thus on Afghanistan in a post U.S./NATO period. However, as an alternative PEACE would be beneficial for all parties including Pakistan's stability. A stalemate could cause Pakistan to disintegrate. The real incentives turns on PEACE DIVIDENDS for every parfy..
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07:10 PM on 02/18/2012
It would be "beneficial," as you put it, for humans to grow wings and fly, too, and this is mathematically more likely to happen than the Taliban negotiating a peace settlement of any kind. There is a saying in English that "it takes two to tango," and since dancing or any other social contact between men and women anywhere in Afghanistan is a capital punishment crime, I will explain for your benefit that in civilized countries, men and women dance together, and one dance called the tango requires two people to make it work. The meaning of this expression is that both sides have to be interested in peace, and anyone who thinks the Taliban are interested in a negotiated peace settlement is simply not connected to the real world in any meaningful way.
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10:37 PM on 02/18/2012
It would be "beneficia¬l," as you put it, for humans to grow wings and fly, too, and this is mathematic¬ally more likely to happen than the Taliban negotiatin¬g a peace settlement of any kind. There is a saying in English that "it takes two to tango," and since dancing or any other social contact between men and women anywhere in Afghanista¬n is a capital punishment crime, I will explain for your benefit that in civilized countries, men and women dance together, and one dance called the tango requires two people to make it work. The meaning of this expression is that both sides have to be interested in peace, and anyone who thinks the Taliban are interested in a negotiated peace settlement is simply not connected to the real world in any meaningful way.
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02:19 PM on 02/16/2012
Wow, an entire thread by people with zero Fans.
06:19 AM on 02/16/2012
Why must the U.S. support Karzai in a peace talk with the Taliban? Karzai took bribes from the Iranian Government, gave most of the mineral contracts to China, appealed to Russia for assistance, and cursed the United States repeatedly. If Senator Santorum gets elected president, we would not pout up with a manic depressant such as Karzai and waste American blood and wealth.
06:16 AM on 02/16/2012
Mullah Omar made a critical mistake by not deporting Ben Laden when asked to do so by his own Loya Jirga. He failed to implement the advice of the Loya Jirga to ask Bin Laden to leave Afghanistan. It led to our invasion. But then we stayed there for 10 years and beat up on the Taliban and Pashtuns. It is time for the U.S. government to publish details of the facts to illuminate on the issue.
03:32 AM on 02/18/2012
THE U.S. AND AFGHANISTAN ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ROLE PAKISTAN WILL PLAY IN THE PEACE PROCESS. SO FAR, PAKISTAN HAS BEEN A SPOILER AND HAS REFUSED TO PODUCE ACCESS TO THE TALIBAN LEADERS TO THE PEACE CONFERENCE TABLE. PAKISTAN WISHES TO KEEP A HOLD ON THE TALIBAN TO COUNTER THE INFLUENCE OF iNDIA AND MAINTAIN ITS HOLD ON THE TALIBAN AND AVOID BEING SIDELINED. HOWEVERF, AN END TO THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN COULD CONTRIBUTE TO PAKISTAN'S POLITICAL AND REGIONAL STABILITY. THEREFORE PEACE IN AFGHANISTAN WILL BE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR PAKLISTAN AS WELL AS THE U.S.A. AND AFGHANISTAN - ALL WILL BE WINNERS.
07:27 PM on 02/15/2012
Prof. Kamrany took the high road in his analysis of prospective peace in Afghanistan. He assessed the war damages sustained by the United States and Afghanistan but abstained from any blame game. However, it is about time that the public should understand why we went to Afghanistan. Is it legal for a state to start a war on another state if a foreign visitor residing in the State A commits a terrorist act on State B. This is what happened, Bin Laden caused 9/11 on the U.S. while he was residing in Afghanistan although there was no evidence that Afghanistan in any way assisted with the plot, it was not an accessory before the terrorist act. According to newpapers, all of the planning for 9/11 took place in Germany and all of the actors were Arabs.
07:22 PM on 02/15/2012
Congratulations to Prof. Kamrany – It is cogently written, well-reasoned, educational, and very informative. I learned a lot, thank you. Let's make sure that the Afghan government gives the mineral contracts to American companies and not to the Chinese.
07:16 PM on 02/15/2012
The peace prospects are exciting – we will have our soldiers to return home God willing.
07:15 PM on 02/15/2012
ACTUALLY AN AFGHANI HAS THREE MEANINGS: (1) MONEY UNIT, (2) A PERSON OF AFGHAN ORIGIN, AND (3) THE LANGUAGE OF AFGHANISTAN LIKE DO YOU SPEAK AFGHANI? LET US ASK PROF. HANIFI, OUR ANTHROPOLOGIST TO SHED LIGHT ON THIS. THIS IS NOT MY EXPERT SUBJECT.
07:13 PM on 02/15/2012
My advice to President Karzai is to fly out before the Taliban come in – with your brothers and all members of the family.
07:09 PM on 02/15/2012
Judging from their previous government, the Taliban would be okay if they allow employment and education for women although their government will be theocratic. In any peace negotiation, let us make sure that the role of women is well known and clarified.
12:27 AM on 02/17/2012
In all probability if the Taliban has a role in a future government, they probably will allow education for women and limit t employment for women in such fields as nursing, health, teaching, medical fields, work on the farm in the villages, teaching, writing, poetry, and work in family businesses, services and retail stores.. These fields were permitted during their rule. However, they may resrict women's employment to work for strangers . The idea is to expand the list of professions that women employment will be permitted. Ofcourse the ideal is not to have any resrictions. That may become a reality in the future, as in Iran.
07:04 PM on 02/15/2012
It is doubtful that the Taliban had any prior knowledge of 9/11 as they were kept in the dark by Al Qaeda. In fact no Taliban or other Afghans were involved in the organization or hierarchy of Al Qaeda. All of the 9/11 participants were Arabs. Mullah Omar made a big mistake by not endorsing the edict of his own Loya Jirag (grand assembly) which instructed him to deport Bin Laden. He did not and suffered the consequences.
07:01 PM on 02/15/2012
Prof. Nake Kamany’s analysis is indeed instructive for a possible peace deal with the Taliban and an end to the Afghanistan domestic violence and U.S. War. Contrary to the views of the Karzai government, there no security threat to the U.S. by the Taliban or Afghanistan. We should let the Afghans iron out their own differences. We have done more than necessary.
06:58 PM on 02/15/2012
Prof. Kamrany took the high road in his lofty and incisive presentation of the Taliban staying power which is indeed awesome and amazing. But his OPED opened a can of worms of so many mistakes and misdeeds, illegitimacy of the war, slaughtering innocent people, bombing villages, burning crops, killing animals, destroying villages and trying to decimate a whole tribe whose basic value system is freedom and the wish to be left alone. Why we did all that to what end?
06:56 PM on 02/15/2012
We invaded Afghanistan for harboring Bin Laden, why we did not invade Pakistan for harboring Bin Laden for nearly 10 years under ISI protection? Double standard or what?