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The Offer

Posted: 05/18/2012 7:50 pm

"You can invite as many people as you want as long as they stop at McDonald's on the way."

That was my dad's response to me when I begged him 12 years ago to include my friends at my older sister's wedding. (The man had a point. Weddings are expensive. He couldn't feed everyone.) He didn't stop there. Years later, his negotiations would continue.

When it came time to plan my big day after I got engaged three years ago, he had a proposal of his own. Just as he had with my sister, he offered my fiancé and me money. Not for a wedding, for a house. As I'm sure many fathers have before him, he tried to persuade us to take the amount he would put towards a reception, in cold, hard cash. We could have it immediately, use it for savings, a down payment on a property and eventually to start a family. He reasoned that spending that kind of dough on one day was silly and, instead, we should use it for something much more permanent -- like our life together. While tempting, we declined.

You couldn't put a price on our dreams. And, while, those visions included all that he presented: the house, the kids and the financial security, the wedding was also on that list and weddings trump all, at least in little girl's and engaged young women's minds. There was no way I was giving up my dress, my bouquet or our party for a piece of paper no matter how many zeros were on it. The thought was too depressing, too clinical, too... practical. Aren't fairy tales supposed to be the antithesis to practicality? No Disney book I ever read talked about mortgages and 401ks. So we forged ahead. In place of money market accounts were centerpieces, in lieu of Roth IRA's were chandeliers.

Two years later and still renting, my father's offer looks really good in hindsight. My husband and I often joke about how foolish we were. Considering all the stress we put ourselves through during the planning process and how quickly the event went combined with the cost of living in Southern California... Some would say we were crazy for turning the money away. Most days we would agree with them.

But, as much as we could really use those funds right now to start a family of our own in a home we own, truthfully, all kidding aside, we wouldn't do it differently. The memories we made from the weekend-long celebration of our love for one another surrounded by everyone we care about are pretty priceless.

However, should we be so blessed to have a daughter of our own one day and fortunate enough to be able to afford a wedding, we will probably present the same choice to her. But I'm fairly certain that, like her mother and all those dreamers that came between us, she, too, will say she'd rather have the party, that practicality can wait.

 

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"You can invite as many people as you want as long as they stop at McDonald's on the way." That was my dad's response to me when I begged him 12 years ago to include my friends at my older sister's ...
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09:31 PM on 05/22/2012
I'm planning my wedding right now & my mom made us a similar offer. My fiancee & I actually bought our house before getting engaged, even though we still don't live in it. She offered to pay for a pretty nice honeymoon overseas if we agreed to have a small wedding. We turned her down because we both really want to have the wedding of our dreams. But the truth is, we're lucky enough to have enough financial security, and a house, that we could turn her down.
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Betty Bogue
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02:04 PM on 05/22/2012
I would have taken the money and had a smaller wedding. My wedding was small, nice and I loved it because at the end of the day it didn't matter how much it cost, all that mattered was that I was married to the man I love.
08:01 PM on 05/21/2012
I understand not everyone wants a fancy wedding, and yes 30k is a LOT to spend on a wedding! I am not spending near that much on ours, but yes we are having a traditional party to go with our ceremony and I'm pretty tired of everyone commenting that every girl who wants a white dress, a diamond and a party is somehow a "victim" and is ridiculous and has her head in the clouds, or hasn't thought about the marriage that comes after the wedding. To each their own, but don't hate on someone for having an expensive wedding - haven't you ever heard it's rude to count other peoples' money?
10:54 PM on 05/21/2012
You are missing the point. If someone wants a fancy, expensive wedding, and they can afford it, that's one thing. But it is quite another when people spend way over their means or demand their parents bring financial hardship upon themselves so they can show off with a great big wedding. This article hits a nerve because this author sounds like a 6-year-old girl, going on about fairy tales and Disney princesses, saying things like financial security or a home of your own to raise a family in are "depressing" and "too practical." She's the one who came on here whining about the big sacrifice she made for her "big day," so she is inviting criticism. Sorry, but it is ridiculous for people to go into massive debt for a wedding they cannot afford.
06:42 PM on 05/21/2012
I took the house, and had a scaled down, but fun, wedding. My husband and I are about to celebrate our 18th wedding anniversary, in our now paid-off condo, with our daughter about to start college two years early. The fact that my dress was made of the finest polyester, we had our reception in the church Sunday School room, and I wore gloves to cover up the blue stains on my hands from making the wedding cake did nothing to take away from the big day. It is an important day, but it is only one day.
06:28 PM on 05/21/2012
I would have gone for the wedding too. Buying a house is no guarantee. The real estate market is a mess. Happy they had a beautiful wedding with wedding that will last a lifetime!
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Jeffin90019
Your religion is your lifestyle choice. Not mine.
04:54 PM on 05/24/2012
A marriage is a supposed to last a lifetime. A wedding is a one day party.
06:09 PM on 05/21/2012
"the house, the kids and the financial security, the wedding was also on that list and weddings trump all, at least in little girl's and engaged young women's minds" - Sorry, but any woman who is comparing her mindset to a child like this is a normal thing and saying in essence that the wedding day trumps the actual marriage has no business getting married in the first place. Marriage is not a "fairytale" and anyone who goes into one thinking it is will be sorely disappointed. Marriage is hard work (and certainly can be wonderful), but it is not some happily ever after fantasy. And the way these spoiled girls just expect their parents to shell out ridiculous amounts of money to fund "their day" is ridiculous. None of your guests will care about or remember in the years to come how much you spent on overpriced dresses, flowers, pretty looking but disgusting tasting cake, etc. A great celebration (even a "weekend celebration") can be had within your budget, with money left over for the truly important stuff - your married life together, AFTER the wedding day. Happy memories are about who you spent your time with and what you did together. Not about the copious amounts of cash spent on frivolous things when you can ill afford it.

I had a destination wedding on a tropical island. Huge party for all when we got home. Around $5,000 total. No stress, totally romantic and fun. And happy memories galore.
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missmaryc
09:24 AM on 05/22/2012
This is the second piece I've read by this writer, and I have to say, I really don't get her and I don't get why her piece is the top article. I agree with your assessment of her comparing her mindset to that of a young girl. It just seemed odd to me. Weddings trump all? Not for all engaged women. And I agree with you again on the money thing. "Not giving up my party for a piece of paper..." It's not a piece of paper. It's money. How about graciously accepting the generous gift and the paying for your wedding yourself?? Or doing some negotiating and seeing if the father would have been willing to use part of the money for a scaled-down wedding, and put the rest toward a house.

I really think I should start writing for this section. I am not seeing the types of articles I come here to read.
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averagezoe
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05:42 PM on 05/21/2012
I know that this is the way most women feel, but for me, having a big wedding has never been anything I aspired to. All of my "weddings" were conducted at a Justice of the Peace's office with me wearing jeans and a tube top or something similar and followed by a few rounds at the local bar at the very most. Getting married is just not something I would consider an event, more like a temporary aberration to be remedied later if not working out as planned, so I'd never consider spending more than 50 bucks on it.
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lotusgirl
Turned off the TV and stepped out of the Matrix
05:20 PM on 05/21/2012
I would take the money and have a small ceremony/party. As wedding is something to celebrate. However, unless you have wealth, the amounts people spend makes no sense. The wedding industry has created a hype so compelling, people give up their future security for it.

I ask all my friends to NEVER ask me to be a bridesmaid. I will buy them a nice gift and attend the ceremony, but being in a wedding is not fun for me. The bride almost always had a meltdown, I have to wear an ugly dress, and any fun that can be had is usually drained by someone trying to have a unique/dream day.
11:27 PM on 05/21/2012
I totally agree. To add insult to injury, not only do you have to wear said hideous dress, you actually have to buy it yourself (which is never cheap), plus shoes (again, something the bride picked out herself that you will probably have to take off at the reception because they are killing your feet), accessories, pay to have your hair done in whatever style the bride insists, throw a shower (including a gift), contribute to a bachelorette party and buy a wedding gift. The "honor" of being in a wedding is very expensive and seems to get more and more out of control every year.

When my sister got married 15 years ago, my parents paid for the bridesmaid dresses and tux rentals as part of the wedding expense. I just assumed that's how everyone did it until I got older and got my first taste of being someone else's bridesmaid. When one of my friends got married, she picked a specific color but allowed the bridesmaids to pick whatever style of dress suited them, which seems fair. But that is definitely not the norm in today's bridezilla mentality.
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lotusgirl
Turned off the TV and stepped out of the Matrix
01:01 PM on 05/22/2012
F&F

I love the new tradition to let the bridesmaids pick their own dress. That's really nice, because your friends (with different shapes, heights, weight, etc) are not going to look good in the same dress.

People need to calm down about this wedding business. If you are marrying your best friend, who cares? It's about the marriage and not the wedding.
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luckylily88
12:49 PM on 05/24/2012
That's absolutely right. Being a bridesmaid is a truly unpleasant experience when your bride is crazy. I never knew how insane my best friend was until she got married. Then, a $400 hideous layer cake of a dress and nearly $1000 more in expenses later, she stopped talking to her single friends the second she got married. Never doing it again, and now I know exactly how to treat my bridesmaids when my turn comes around.
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inapickle
05:04 PM on 05/21/2012
Look at it this way, we're living in a fairly exceptional time as far as buying property goes. Had you taken the money and bought a house three years ago, you'd be seriously underwater at this point. You basically would be feeling now that you were a fool and the money had been thrown away as you could buy the same house for 20 or 30 percent less now. As it is you have a memory of a great wedding and no buyer's remorse.
Reminds me of a line from Auntie Mame as the stockmarket crashes, her theatrical friend says, "And everyone said I was such a fool for spending my money on diamonds."
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missmaryc
09:28 AM on 05/22/2012
Sorry, but there is absolutely no way to say for sure they would be seriously underwater. In fact, three years ago they probably would have gotten a steal. The market has been pretty bad for a while. And while they have no buyer's remorse, they also don't have a home of their own.
05:00 PM on 05/21/2012
Well, my parents, many decades ago, did not have the resources to offer that option, but, neither did I want the picture-perfect wedding day. The thought of going through that sort of production petrified me. We opted for a Reno courthouse ceremony. I don't regret it for a moment. Women/girls who "must" have their big day are victims of advertising and indoctrination.
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contradiction
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04:53 PM on 05/21/2012
I never dreamed of the fairy-tale wedding. I never wanted to wear a big white dress in a big church and be the center of attention. Not to say I haven't enjoyed being a guest at the occasional wedding - because I certainly have. It just seems to me there is a bit of narcissism required to throw a huge bash for yourself and invite your distant relatives and friends you've not seen in 5 years, ask them to bring you a gift and pretend to be a sassy bride on the dance-floor. It's silly. I went to prom. No biggy. If you truly love your partner, it seems you don't need to prove it to your friends and family.
04:52 PM on 05/21/2012
I never really understood spending tens of thousands of dollars on a one day event or inviting hundreds of people when odds are, one a couple dozen of those people are actually close to you. Many years ago, I worked at a country club and worked probably a hundred or more "fairytale" weddings. The bride almost always seemed stressed out, the bride and groom hardly ever had time to eat and looking at the board in the kitchen of what they were paying the country club took my breath away. Personally if I were her, I would have asked for a very small, personal wedding and taken the rest of the money as a down payment on the house. But, we are all different. Good for the wedding industry I guess.
04:48 PM on 05/21/2012
Whatever you want sweetie.
04:30 PM on 05/21/2012
Marriages, much like life, are not fairy tales. Even though you realize now that the smarter thing to do was put the money towards something useful, you are still in denial living with the repercussions of one over-indulgent weekend for many years to come. Having a grand wedding where you pretend to be something your aren't (a princess) is the height of narcissism and a sad commentary on the "hey everybody, look at me" mentality.
lassefaire
Ascendo tuum
04:27 PM on 05/21/2012
My husband and I are married for 19 years and we only spend 75 dollars on the whole wedding thing.
05:05 PM on 05/21/2012
So we should take this to mean...what exactly?
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Jeffin90019
Your religion is your lifestyle choice. Not mine.
04:58 PM on 05/24/2012
Congratulations on knowing what matters -- the marriage, not the one day wedding.