Nathan Gardels

Nathan Gardels

Posted: September 9, 2009 12:20 PM

Will More U.S. Troops Strengthen the Taliban?

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As President Obama ponders the assessment of General McChyrstal over what to do next in Afghanistan, the pressure is on for a new "surge" of troops to "clear, hold and build" contested
areas long enough for some kind of effective governance and security from Kabul to take hold.
Yet, as the post-election turmoil suggests, the legitimacy of the government that would take over is far from established.

Nonetheless, Secretary Gates has given this approach one year to show it is working. This may make sense on the fast food time scale of the American clock. But this is a land where the Taliban still remember the Buddhist contamination a millennium ago and the Soviet occupation a couple of decades ago as if it were yesterday.

So, we are pitting the draining will of the American public, after 8 years, to take on even a temporary surge against this deep, tribal determination, honed over the centuries, to resist foreign infidels? Surely, the Taliban will hit, run and wait it out.

Further, aren't people at home already asking why we are building schools in Afghanistan when teachers are being fired in California? And won't more troops make it more of an occupation, granting the mantle of resistance to the otherwise despised Taliban?

Gates argues that more troops won't stir more resistance if they are used properly to protect civilians and create order. True as far as it goes. But how far is that when even our German allies, who have desperately tried to stay out of the fighting, find themselves drawn into massive collateral destruction of civilians? If this keeps up, won't America and its NATO allies come to be seen just as the Afghans saw the Soviets?

This is the considered worry of Zbigniew Brzezinski, who was national security adviser to President Carter when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan.

Here is some of what Brzezinski had to say when I talked to him recently for the Global Viewpoint Network:

The growing risk that we face in Afghanistan and Pakistan is that the Taliban -- still supported only by a minority -- is beginning to be viewed as a resistance movement against a foreign and especially "infidel" occupation, largely American. The Soviets came to be viewed that way within a year of their invasion. When we moved into Afghanistan almost eight years ago -- and with a very small force -- we were actually welcomed. If we are not careful, we could come to be viewed by the Afghans like the Russians, and that would be a strategic defeat.

The full interview can be found on the Christian Science Monitor website here.

For an alternative view by Francis Fukuyama that "nation-building is key to counterinsurgency,"
go here.

 
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- MARNIE2 I'm a Fan of MARNIE2 3 fans permalink

WHAT ARE WE TO DO ? ....[ ROLL] OVER.. AND LET THE TALIBAN COME ON IN ? SET UP
THEIR JIHAD......PLAY GROUND ?? CALLING ON ..RELIGON...FOR THEIR MANDATE ...TO KILL !
....................ABSOLUTELY....strengthen the...troops .....or go ! ....let the world see we cann't even
fight a 3 world rug-tag men .....how could we even fight [match-up ] to a WORLD GOVT. RUN ARMY ?
..........blown away ! : (

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 09/10/2009
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"Will More U.S. Troops Strengthen the Taliban?"
This question makes just little sense as it's opposite :' Will less U.S. Troops weaken Taliban?"

The answer in both cases is "No."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 AM on 09/10/2009
- noneIn2008 I'm a Fan of noneIn2008 27 fans permalink

Give it back to Russia. Promise we will not fund insurgents against them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 PM on 09/09/2009
- researcher I'm a Fan of researcher 114 fans permalink

yes we are going to get our butts kicked like ths soviets did

and all the suffering after we leave will be profound

nation building has a price suffering for the nation and bankruptcy for the invader

afghan obma's vietnam

we will have a one term pres

like carter the two are very much alike ie weak

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 09/09/2009
- PitBull6 I'm a Fan of PitBull6 4 fans permalink

I think it's a stretch to say they got their butts kicked. They had relatively low casualties and retired in good order. But certainly their conventional "big unit" approach fared poorly in that terrain and with a decentralized tribal society.

But I completely agree that nation building has a big price. I think it's a comparison between the potential benefit several years down the road to the immediate cost in people and dollars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 PM on 09/09/2009
- DocTwain I'm a Fan of DocTwain 114 fans permalink
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Enough with the ocular inspection of the omphalos.
Get our boys out and save $170 billion a year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 09/09/2009
- ForeverXL I'm a Fan of ForeverXL 36 fans permalink
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and you got your money to kick start healthcare reform

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 09/09/2009
- Ergon I'm a Fan of Ergon 93 fans permalink
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Already is

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 09/09/2009
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