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I Wish I Knew How to Quit You, Google

Posted: 03/23/2012 8:11 am

Google's new privacy policy of combining all your data across all Google products -- assumedly to better market your eyeballs to advertisers -- has provoked a wave of reactions across the Internet, as well as among policymakers.

European Union data protection agencies have condemned the practice and have already indicated that it violates European Union privacy laws. Acting on behalf of fellow agencies, the French agency CNIL has sent Google 69 questions probing exactly how the company is going to use user data.

Google, on the other hand, claims to have a simple defense, which was repeated by Vic Gundotra, Google Vice President, at the SXSW Conference earlier this month:

"If we do things that are evil, with one click you can leave Google..."


Sounds compelling, except it's been years since using Google's search page was the only relationship most people have with Google.  In fact, given the myriad ways Google penetrates the Internet, it is nearly impossible to quit Google and preserve your privacy.

The Many Complicated Clicks to Leaving Google: Tom Henderson over at IT World described his process of "divorcing Google" and it was anything but a one-click process.  In fact, it was an almost Homeric Odyssey spread over seven days and depending on technological tricks that few regular users could master.

For anyone using even a few Google products, there are often days, sometimes weeks, in some cases years of embedded data bound up in Google products.  Much of the data is not even exportable in any simple way.

  • All the information on all your relationships on Google Plus can't be simply downloaded and replicated on FaceBook or other social networks.
  • Folders and filtering rules for incoming email to a Gmail account can't be transferred over to Outlook or other email systems with "one click."
  • Subscriptions and other ways to track sources of videos on YouTube also don't transfer in any simple way.


Leaving Google means leaving a lot of the work you may have invested in Google products over the years.

But that's just the surface of leaving Google, as Henderson details, since particular Google products are not really the main business of the company: advertising is the name of the game and Google attaches a myriad of cookies and other trackers to its users to help its advertisers effectively target their ads.

Not only do you need to carefully scrape Google cookies out of every browser you use, but you have to carefully avoid accidentally landing on any Google site, since that can instantly restore those cookies.  Preventing this is so daunting that Henderson recommends installing a ""redirected hosts file" and if you don't know what that means, "Ask your geek friends about them."

And there are even "supercookies" that resurrect cookies you had previously deleted.  You then need at "cookie and tracking blocker" such as a program like Ghostery.  Although the problem is that to really evade the cookie parasites, such blockers have to spend computer time checking out each page, which slows loading each page.  So the price of leaving Google is a worse browsing experience.

If you have an Android phone, the problem is even more challenging.  Owning an Android phone without Google is possible, Henderson writes, but "doing so is tough, and there's work to do."  Again, it requires techie approaches like "going through a process called rooting-your-phone," hardly a one-click decision for most users.

Why the Switching Costs of Leaving Google Matters: All of this is too much work for most people and, honestly, most people feel like Google makes life more convenient, so given the hassle, letting Google track their privacy is on balance better than abandoning Google altogether.

So if folks are on balance happy with the deal Google offers, even if they grumble a bit, what's wrong with that in a market society where no deal makes everyone completely happy?

The problem is that the convenience offered is ultimately not for the benefit of those users, but is just a way to keep their eyeballs available for the real monetary deals Google is making with their advertisers.  And the result of those deals, as I detailed in my Cost of Lost Privacy series last year, is that it allows advertisers too much information to track users based on their behaviors, desires and demographics.  It allows them in the best case to figure out how to squeeze the most money out of any transaction with particular individuals and, in too many cases, allow seedy vendors, from subprime lenders to illegal online pharmacies, to prey on vulnerable targets.

This isn't a conspiracy view of Google.   Hal Varian, now the Chief Economist for Google, wrote about this goal in a 2005 article in Marketing Science--the kind of place where the 1% of the advertising world talk to each other about how best to fleece the rubes through advertising.   As he wrote, the goal of locking in customers online is to better practice "price discrimination" - the economists term for charging different prices to different people - based on their past behavior:

Sellers can offer each individual a different price, a particular prize or coupon, or personalized recommendations. With computer-mediated transactions, price discrimination on an individual basis becomes quite feasible.

Sellers maximize their profits by gleaning the maximum price each person will pay based on their past behavior. And the key to extracting this information: "provide a personalized service that is valuable to at least some of the consumers. This creates switching costs for the consumers."

So creating such a web of integrated services such that no one is reasonably likely to abandon it all has been the business plan for Google all along. Creating a single privacy policy and integrated data collection across all those services then becomes a way to make the deal all-or-nothing; users can't pick and choose to share their personal data only within a particular service, so switching costs go up.

The Need for "Data Portability" Regulations: The European Union privacy regulators have actually been very focused on this problem of switching costs, or what many call "data portability."   Earlier this year, a draft Privacy Directive was circulated (details courtesy of EPIC here) that is designed to increase user control of their data in a range of ways, one of the key ones being the "creation of a right of 'data portability,' allowing individuals to take his/her photos, medical records or a list of friends from an application or service and transfer them into another one."

A true "one click" data portability standard would be quite threatening to the advertising models Google, Facebook and other privacy-destroying companies have deployed on the Internet. But given the hassles of individuals on their own quitting Google or similar online services, it will take tough government regulation to ultimately give users the tools to truly protect their online privacy.

 

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fjpoblam
¿did I say something?
10:08 PM on 03/25/2012
Tom Henderson's IT World article is surely worth reading. It's not just a matter of using other products (non-Google search, email, movies, blog, and on, and on...). Google is as entrenched in the web as Norton/Symantec antivirus software may become upon an individual PC: and any of you who've ever tried fully to *un*install Norton/Symantec down to the last shred may know what I mean. The Gorg: resistance is futile.
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jsgaetano
Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus
05:33 PM on 03/24/2012
I've found Bing to be a fine alternative to Google, and Microsoft doesn't plot ways to plunder consumer data the way Google does, since Microsoft is too concerned with it's reputation with large corporations (aka it's core customer base). Most corporations have computer policies which steer people AWAY from Google because of privacy concerns. For example, statistical data of searches can let Google (or someone with access to Google's databases, like the Chinese government using built-in "backdoors") know what a company is working on, just by analyzing what's being searched.
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EagleFliesInSky
Artist at work.
11:07 AM on 03/25/2012
When Microsoft decided to 'update' to a newer version without asking permission (hah), Google was noticeably absent from it. Instead Bing is there for searches. And IMO, Bing is worthless.

Since I have nothing to hide (I think!), I miss the Google bar that instantly gave me the info I was searching for.
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jsgaetano
Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus
04:26 PM on 03/25/2012
I'm still able to browse Google from the search bar. But I do miss the separate search box. Wish MS would have at least given us the option to put it back, instead of writing it out of the browser entirely.
01:12 PM on 03/24/2012
Not to mention that Google probably sells this info real time to the NSA. In essence Google is spying on you for the government. Also, I have to pay for bandwidth on my plan so Google is converting my bandwidth to it's profit. It would be stupid of me to think that any corporate or government entity is fair, moral or honest after a lifetime of watching corruption in action here in the USA. I use Ghostery and it tells me that this website wants to insert 13 cookies into my computer on just the front page alone.
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jsgaetano
Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus
05:35 PM on 03/24/2012
Do some searches on Google and the far right's "Total Information Awareness" program, which was SO bad even George Dubai Bush's "Rubber Stamp Congress" explicitly created laws to prevent it. The NSA instead made HEAVY investments in Google, as well as having members of the CIA and NSA appointed to it's executive staff.
03:46 AM on 03/24/2012
Hi Nathan,

You can take all the data that you entered. Your contact lists. Your photos. And so on...
Nobody promised you that you can take all the things you built using Google products
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jsgaetano
Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus
05:35 PM on 03/24/2012
It's OUR data. We should be able to export OUR data.
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06:45 PM on 03/23/2012
SORRYYYY but we all love google. conduct a survey and you'll find that the majority TRUST google. compared to the other tech giants and BIG CORPORATIONS, google's an angel. it drives the web's innovation with their advertising model and they readily comply when the users wants some changes. have they given us any reason yet not to trust them? the only ones i see complaining are those working for the "others" , some biased politician, some critics trying to ride the hate google bandwagon to meet their monthly quota and the extremely paranoid/conspiracy theorists.
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CenaW
Did you know AOL belongs to A L E C
07:30 PM on 03/23/2012
Yikes, what a sell-out?
Speak for yourself. I do avoid google and manually reject all cookies etc. I also stopped shopping on-line, several years back now. . .
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LFox6
Always remember you are unique, like everyone else
07:46 AM on 03/24/2012
I've always loved Google - trying to remember the last time I picked up a telephone directory, for instance, or bought a map! However, like most things, there are down sides - here is some food for thought:

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/violetblue/why-developers-should-worry-about-google-play/1148
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Rob Huggins
12:12 AM on 03/26/2012
There are real free markets out there for apps on Androids as well as Apples to get around the limitations in the article you posted. I'm glad, because the concept of an app store was horrible to begin with. The stricter Google gets with their app store, the more users are going to download from places like getjar instead.

I agree though. I love what Google gives me even though I don't trust them as far as I can click.
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becky bradshaw
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth
04:46 PM on 03/23/2012
Google operates a very effective search engine. Many of us are very dependent on its service.

But Google is evil. They are a company that makes billions of dollars of profit every year, and yet cheats on its taxes, just like Apple, Microsoft, and General Electric.(1) This is not a victimless crime. It leaves our government and economy impoverished, which results in people losing their homes, in the closing of nursing homes, in the reduction of school lunch and child medical care services, etc.

It is a tradeoff. They choose to reward the rich. The number of mega-yachts has increased by more than 400% in the last fifteen years. (2)

1. http://wraltechwire.com/business/tech_wire/opinion/blogpost/8493372/
2. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25804188/ns/travel-luxury_travel/t/where-big-boys-go-berth/#.T2zu_NlCTKQ
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LFox6
Always remember you are unique, like everyone else
07:48 AM on 03/24/2012
Flawed logic. "Cheating on taxes" IS illegal. Do you have proof they cheat on their taxes? Taking legal tax deductions is NOT cheating - it's following logical and legal avenues to drop tax liability. Big difference, not just semantics
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becky bradshaw
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth
09:11 AM on 03/24/2012
The distinction between legal and illegal grays for a company with 24,000 lawyers. Use a common sense test, if Joe's Barbershop down on main street, tried Googles "Double Irish" tax maneuver, would the IRS approve?

Do you really relieve that a few employees in Ireland have been responsible for 96% of Google's intellectual work?
12:04 PM on 03/24/2012
There a difference between cheating government and tax avoidance.

Google does tax avoidance using legal loop holes in tax laws. What people like you and me should ask is why the government have not close those holes, Google has said it would welcome paying more tax in the UK but is unable to as this would violate US law, where US law requires a company to make as much profit as possible. It would be the same if Google stop doing tax avoidance in the US and other countries.

Tax avoidence is not illegal ironically not doing tax avoidance is illegal under US law.

Anyone that owns a public company in the UK is likely to carry out a large amount of tax avoidance as well and anyone who does not needs to hire themselves a better accountant.
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becky bradshaw
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth
05:42 AM on 03/25/2012
Slick Lawyerese. The "Double-Irish" is extreme acrobatics of accounting profession. If a company must create multiple shell companies in Ireland, to pretend to have transactions, and then a receiving company in the Caribbean for a final banking stop, it starts to smell. If it smells like a fish, it's probably a fish.
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signgrrl
design & production
04:22 PM on 03/23/2012
or you could just use ask dot com . . . . . .
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SSGreyalexandro
Veteran , Independent , & Puerto Rican !
03:28 PM on 03/23/2012
People are making such a big deal about this and ignoring the other companies that have been much worse with privacy ( COUGH FACEBOOK COUGH ) . Google , keep putting out good products and giving us a real alternative to Apple and Microsoft .
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LFox6
Always remember you are unique, like everyone else
07:48 AM on 03/24/2012
Except with Google Play, now Apple's app market IS Google's product
03:00 PM on 03/23/2012
Yes yes advertisers are sneaky and want you to buy their products. Does it really matter to you if you're say a 18-25 year old male who visits gaming web comics, and so now sees "Hot geeky singles in your area" pop up as an add. Because it doesn't to me.
Google's not sending their advertisers any password, username, or email addresses, they're just putting your IP address into a massive database of IP addresses which allows advertisers to market to their demographic. Facebook does the same, at least google doesn't sell data from your personal messages to the government.
Worst case scenario, some advertising program (and I do mean software) is able to tell that the company would have a 0.5% better chance or marketing their crap to you than to your neighbor.
Best case scenario. Now I've got a 5% better chance that the adds I see are actually something I would like to purchase, instead of adds for wrinkle cream that some mom discovered.
02:11 PM on 03/23/2012
Google knows which hand you yank with.
01:16 PM on 03/23/2012
I have heard of reports of young folks who have been enjoying a Google/gmail/google+ and social-media free life for a while now. Just shows one can survive without signing up for these things.
10:38 AM on 03/23/2012
The goal of creating different pricing models, for the same product, for different customers based on their online behavior is in direct violation of the Sherman Act and the Clayton Act as revised by the Robinson-Patman Act. Every brick and mortar wholesaler and retailer knows this. How did Google and their affiliates become immune?

profj.us/outlines/ch46.doc
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CenaW
Did you know AOL belongs to A L E C
07:32 PM on 03/23/2012
Really, any semblance of corporate regulation is just an anti-Democratic party talking point now.
09:19 AM on 03/23/2012
"""All the information on all your relationships on Google Plus can't be simply downloaded and replicated on FaceBook or other social networks.
Folders and filtering rules for incoming email to a Gmail account can't be transferred over to Outlook or other email systems with "one click."
Subscriptions and other ways to track sources of videos on YouTube also don't transfer in any simple way.""""

Only three, out of all of Google services, all with pretty good explanations why it may not be possible to provide those features, I pretty sure lack of standards to allow those is the biggest one through.

The cookies situation is something you will encounter with a lot of companies, not just Google. Google is also the most compliant when it comes to the new EU rules on data portability, years ahead of Facebook and other companies. Google Data Liberation tool allows to download your data in one click from most of Google services and most of your data. If there anyone that should criticise is Facebook but then I guest it not the Hate Facebook season yet.