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Posted: 01/20/2012 2:03 pm

Freud considered denial to be one of the most powerful psychological disorders.

The GOP primary debates feature politicians and the debate moderators in a deep state of denial about the most burning issue facing the country -- one that a vast majority of Americans care intensely about: the fact that our elections have become auctions.

How intensely? A recent Rasmussen poll shows that a record 48% of Americans agree that Congress is "corrupt." A CNN poll shows that 86% believe that Congress' priorities are set by donors. Congressional approval ratings are at 9%. And, in polling released yesterday, voters, by a two to one margin say that reducing the influence of money in politics would be an important factor in their votes. This issue cuts easily across party lines, by the way.

Super PACs are outspending the candidates 2 to 1, and manipulating voter views dramatically and often anonymously. Yet of the 17 Republican primary debates, the topic of money in politics has come up a mere couple of times -- and only in relation to the nasty tone of some political ads.

If we had a truly representative democracy and an accountable media, this would not be the case. A topic this big, that burns this hot -- from the Tea Party to Occupy to everyone in between -- must be at the center of the conversation. Money's control over politics is at the root of the rip-off Wall Street bailouts, the never-ending jobs crisis, the yawning wealth gap, our ancient energy policy, inflated health-care costs, and the list goes on and on.

This year's political campaigns are expected to spend a total of $6 billion dollars, and it's going to be a mess that often times will have little or no connection to the huge, structural problems our country faces. People are going to continue to be cynical and nauseated by the attack ads and the robo calls and the utterly disingenuous poll-tested messages that are going to be sprayed around.

This weekend marks the second anniversary of the Citizens United Supreme Court decision that flung open the floodgates of corporate and billionaire political spending. And on Monday the first televised Florida primary debate will be held.

So what better time than now to spark a great conversation about the routine buying and selling of our government?

We just produced a funny video that illustrates the problem with the debates so far. Take a look.

Alcoholics and addicts are masters of denial. There is no better metaphor for our money-flooded politicians than that - utterly dependent on a substance (big money) that is ultimately destroying them and everything around them. But incapable of admitting there's a problem. It's time to yank our elected officials out of their collective state of denial.

Starting today, and throughout this year's elections, we'll be helping end the denial and force the real debate that we all - left, right and center - are hoping to have. Let's do it together.

 
 
 
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09:44 PM on 01/22/2012
Difficult to understand, isn't it, why so many voters say they make up their minds on who to vote for on the basis of stage-managed debates?

This if the age of the internet, for crying out loud, where they can go online to find the facts about candidates going back years, just for starters.

Or are these voters so dense that they permit themselves to be led by the tv media which puts on the debates into actually believing that the debates matter all that much? That all that's necessary is for them to sit back in their easy chairs, popcorn in hand, and watch the show in order to decide on how to cast their vote?

Dense voters?

Perish the thought.
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08:36 PM on 01/22/2012
Denial is an incredibly important defense mechanism. Although abused, without it we would be paralyzed.
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ElBuho
Appetitus Rationi Pareat
07:28 PM on 01/22/2012
The moderators can not ask any serious questions about the economy or any other pressing issue because the GOP has nothing new to propose. There are no fresh political ideas or avenues to take that they can propose. Conservatism by its inherent nature does not allow for change. Roosevelt was correct when he stated that Conservatives were people whose heads are turned around looking back and longing for a time that really never existed.
05:47 PM on 01/22/2012
As far as I am concerned, the voters deserve what they get. If they continue to listen to Faux and AM talk radio to get their information there is no hope that I can see. Sad, but I really hope a Republican gets in so they can continue the job they did bring this country down. It won't be until our country hits bottom with the Republicans in charge that the voters will start to wake up and pay attention. It may be too late then.
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modeforjoe
We had the experience, but we missed the meaning
07:39 PM on 01/22/2012
I guess I have to agree, albeit reluctantly. The root cause of our democracy's failure has primarily to do w voter awareness, discernment, intelligence. We can keep fighting little fires on the periphery, or plug yet another little hole in the quickly leaking dike, but it won't be until our schools turn out more thoughtful and critical minded citizens that any of these half measures will make a difference.

So we cut PAC money for ads; but the respective parties will continue to advertise with the same sort of misleading sound bytes that are designed to alarm the uninformed.

Maybe the country needs a good AAA type encounter session. Soon enough we will hit bottom. It really isn't up to you or me any more to try to forestall the inevitable--and maybe, in the great chess game of life, the inevitable has to come around every so often.
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nypapajoe
04:29 PM on 01/22/2012
Big Money has corrupted our political process! Not one of these Republican hypocrites have to date proposed anything that will in any way improve the current economic calamity facing the American people! Placing blame has not resolved anything but applause from their right wing supporters that are paid and bused in! These debates have only shown how dispicable these candidates are and how they have abused their positions of power and fame! Anyone with a degree of intelligence can read between the lines and see these people for what they are hypocrites of the worse kind! Socialism trumps greed and corruption all of the time!
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modeforjoe
We had the experience, but we missed the meaning
07:42 PM on 01/22/2012
Socialism is a fine and respectable idea. But do also remember that Obama has raised more cash than the others, including during 2008. And after he won, having spouted many lies about what he believed in, he turned coat and joined the corporate and military establishment.

As I said in my post above, it may not entirely be about money. It may be that we citizens are unfit for democracy because we can't think past sound byte advertisements that big money pays for.
03:10 PM on 01/22/2012
As Will Roger said, "We have the best government money can buy." So let us have auctions, where citizen groups can bid against the 1%.
04:05 PM on 01/22/2012
We more or less do.
02:45 PM on 01/22/2012
I don't believe that this is the denial of the addict who says "I can quit any time I want" but of tobacco executives that testified "I believe that nicotine is not addictive". Not that they or their own research departments actually believed that, but it was part of the Big Lie that kept the gravy flowing in their direction.
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waltifarian
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
06:30 PM on 01/22/2012
Important distinction & good point.
01:20 PM on 01/22/2012
Money is not the problem. Lack of transparency in political contributions is the problem. If all contributions were made public, and limited to individual PEOPLE (not organizations), we, the PEOPLE, would know who was supporting whom.
Individual contributions are not the problem. It's the PACs, the corporations, the unions, all the anonymous millions that corrupt the system. It's the media favoring one candidate over the others, and using their clout to push their own agenda. If we, the people, could access contribution info on the internet, sorted by contributor, amount, party, date, and any other way to help cut through all the toro kaka, we would KNOW who supports whom and be able to decide for ourselves who should be elected. While the contribution laws allow the Koch and Soros types to give millions without disclosing they did so, the system will remain corrupt.
And, while I'm pontificating, ANY election fraud should be a capital offence.
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thatsNotWhatIHeard
some people want tacos, others want ALL the tacos
05:08 PM on 01/22/2012
it's way simpler to just get rid of all monetary or gift contributions, across the board, inside and outside of elections. that would be the ultimate equalizer.

someone with more means should not have more say, period; and if we only take PACs, corporations, and unions out of the picture in order to leave contributions up to the people, it will be exactly that -- more means would equal more say.
11:10 PM on 01/22/2012
If two candidates were running and one got one dollar from a million people and the other got a million dollars from one person, who would you vote for? If the one guy him three million more, would you vote for him then?
How about if one guy got two percent of his money from each state and the other guy got ten times as much as the other guy, all from one city?
Money is a tool; the more of it you have, the more you can do. People who demonize wealth are fools.
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modeforjoe
We had the experience, but we missed the meaning
07:43 PM on 01/22/2012
Yes, but would the media accurately and aggressively report and re-report on who is supporting whom? I kind of doubt that, which is a pisser all around if true.
11:02 PM on 01/22/2012
DUH! Require the candidates to record the donations on their own website. Everybody can see it, and if after the election, the accounts don't jive, disqualify the winner.
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jbon911647
We are all Green, Baby!
08:45 AM on 01/22/2012
It's about time the media realized what the people of America figured out a long time ago.
But Im sure this realization will not change minds in the media for a generation, as the media has invested to much time and money in being devisive.

Im happy that part of this realization (in the medias mind) has been brought about by Newt, which is part of the reason for his success. He has already changed the media environment in this country, as will be apparent in the line of questioning used in the next debate.

Hopefully we can now conecentrate on the real issues moving foward.
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Wesley Holbrook
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07:13 AM on 01/22/2012
The GOP and the Dems are subservient to the 1%ers.' The democratic process in America is a grand delusion. Until you get the hard corporate money out of politics, the elections are already insured (by that hard money invested), and assured no matter who wins that the corporates will receive a grand return on their investment. Our Country has already begun its great fall. Don't be deceived when they talk of family values; it's a distraction, money and power is all they crave...
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modeforjoe
We had the experience, but we missed the meaning
07:44 PM on 01/22/2012
Money and power is probably all most politicians everywhere have ever craved. That's probably not new, and our past leaders were not saints but on the take as so many are today.
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lisakaz2
Da ministero dell'interno di Snark.
12:29 AM on 01/22/2012
You expect the GOPee pols to address real questions? Puleeze. They carp on Obama, as if he invented this fiscal fiasco and they have no answers for it except the same tired bee ess Bush had. Let's privatize Social Security, let's take the money and give no benefits for those who pay but funnel the money to the rich. Let's cut taxes to the rich and believe they actually create jobs here, rather than get benefits from shipping them overseas. It's all disastrous for average working people and they couldn't care less. Let's have children of the poor work, let's force women of limited financial means to have children but get government off the backs of the affluent. It's a wonder they don't propose a caste system.
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soma77
Author, Speaker, Retreat Facilitator
05:47 PM on 01/21/2012
We can't call the moderators reporters, they are celebrities that want a follow up interview. To get an interview they must ask soft ball questions. They are not representing the 99% or us they are representing their celebrity status. News is a joke.
12:18 PM on 01/22/2012
you are absolutely correct. ALL of these 'serious reporters' are more interested in getting post debate interviews to enhance their own network ratings (and future contracts). We sorely miss Tim Russert.
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modeforjoe
We had the experience, but we missed the meaning
07:44 PM on 01/22/2012
This goes to the heart of it.
DRouss3977
Consider the source and rise above it!
05:26 PM on 01/21/2012
I think moderators of debates should stop an answer or call the politician on not answering the question if the hack is giving a stump speech. Moderators should ask for specifics, not pie-in-the-sky questions. The answers can't be effective and telling if the questions are softballs.
02:15 PM on 01/21/2012
lets see we have a media owned by the 1% with reporters who are members of the 1% asking candidates who are also of the 1% questions. You expect it to be anything else than a theater of the absurd?
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AMERIKA
Husband, Parent, Sibling, Business Owner, Progress
12:56 PM on 01/21/2012
Until you have intelligent moderators, you get questions like "would you like to respond" instead of "while you were committing adultery, you led the charge to impeach President Clinton. Why should the electorate trust a rank hypocrite?" and, "Your hypocrisy on sexual, financial, and policy matters is consistent. Why should anybody give their trust to you?"
07:05 AM on 01/22/2012
Such questions of course wouldn't in any way represent intelligent questions from "intelligent moderators", acting as the supposedly "politically neutral" media moderators ALL actually reasonable Americans want the media people, selected to ask questions in these national intra-party Presidential debates, to be !

Such questions would simply be ludicrously over the top hyper-combative BADGERING, from an imbecilic hyper-partisan like YOU.

And btw, relevant to your proposed ridiculous first badgering question [actually not an actual question at all, but simply a badgering HARANGUE] you'd have your "intelligent moderator" ask, the utter logical absurdity, of such a badgering harangue, links to the fact there was simply no parallelism whatsoever, between the "crime" you implicate Speaker Gingrich in, and the ACTUAL alleged crimes President Clinton was in fact impeached for.

President Clinton was of course in no way impeached for "adultery", but instead for the most serious crimes of suborning perjury [trying to get Monica Lewinski to lie on an affadavit in the Paula Jones legal case]. as well as the crime of perjury itself for his own lying directly to a grand jury, as well as the crime of "obstruction of justice".

Not only was Bill Clinton never in any way impeached for "adultery", but of course NO President could ever be impeached for such a thing as "adultery", which of course happens to be PERFECTLY LEGAL !

In any court in America, "adultery" not only isn't a felony, it isn't even a misdemeanor: It's simply totally LEGAL !
pssdov
No act of kindness goes unnoticed
11:05 AM on 01/22/2012
Um, don't know where you live...but adultery actually IS a crime in some states, particularly southern states (surprise, surprise). Not a felony though.
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AMERIKA
Husband, Parent, Sibling, Business Owner, Progress
01:30 PM on 01/22/2012
So lets agree that your premise is correct, which I don't, (it was a witch hunt around his sexual behavior) but even so, HYPOCRISY is a character flaw that the public as a right to confront. And Gingrich is a hypocrite. He should be asked about his hypocrisy and until he addresses it, the press is complicit in hiding it.
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modeforjoe
We had the experience, but we missed the meaning
07:46 PM on 01/22/2012
Absolutely. The tenor and forcefulness of the questions would be instrumental in breaking this thing up.