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Norm Stamper

Norm Stamper

Posted: June 22, 2010 01:55 PM

Karl Rove's June 21 column in Newsweek attacks President Obama's concerns about Arizona's recently passed immigration law. The president, writes Rove, "willingly mischaracterizes the Arizona law because doing so benefits his party and himself." He sneers at Obama's assertion that the law will turn "Latinos into subjects of suspicion and abuse." George W. Bush's former adviser is either (a) woefully misinformed and naive about the new law, or (b) back to his familiar pattern of prevarication.

Rove calls the Arizona statute a "tight and reasonable standard." So not so. Read it. It's loose, sloppy, and probably unconstitutional--even under a Roberts court. (One can hope.)

Look at what Rove calls a "narrowly drawn" set of conditions that police officers must meet, requirements he believes will prevent Latinos from being "routinely tormented" in the state of Arizona (or in copycat states): Cops must first make a "lawful stop, detention or arrest" in order to enforce the new immigration law. Second, they must have a "reasonable suspicion" that the person is an "alien." And, third, they "may not consider race, color, or national origin" in their decision to stop a person.

Let's examine these conditions in reverse order. Laws and written police policies from Maine to California, already explicitly ban discrimination based on "race, color, or national origin." Shall we take a poll of young African-American men or Latinos, ask them how that's working for them?

Next, what constitutes a "reasonable suspicion" that a Latino is an "alien"? His car? His height? Dress? Language? Accent? His presence, along with a dozen other men, outside a Home Depot? Perhaps it's his homelessness, the fact that he's camping out in an arroyo or behind a dumpster? Laws don't get any looser, or un-American than this one.

Finally, let's examine what constitutes a lawful stop.

It's July 29, the new law is now in effect in Arizona. You're a beat cop driving down Camelback Road in Phoenix, just after dark. You spot a '95 Chevy (sorry, Chevrolet) Malibu ahead, driven by a young Latina. You pull in behind, follow the vehicle for three quarters of a mile. The driver seems to be obeying all traffic laws. But she's aroused your suspicion; in fact you're certain she's an "illegal": a person caught in the act of not being an American.

And because an "immigration" bust in the Grand Canyon State has now become as significant as a burglary arrest, you decide to pull her over. (Scoring you extra points if you happen to be a deputy working for Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County. "America's Toughest [Self-Proclaimed] Sheriff" announced yesterday that the new law's implementation will be celebrated by yet another of his infamous immigration sweeps, a storm-trooping tactic that terrifies immigrants, legal and otherwise, rips families apart, and brings a big smile to the face of Arpaio.)

But before you can stop the Malibu you must first establish a "reasonable suspicion." What's your justification for a traffic stop? Well, if you've been a cop for more than five minutes you have a plethora of options: a tail light or license plate light out (or working only "intermittently"), the driver having drifted over the broken white line (a DUI?), or having driven three miles an hour over the limit, or six miles an hour under...

They're called "pretext" stops. Some courts frown on them (here in Washington State, for example), but they've led to splendid arrests: robbers, rapists, murderers. Terrorists. There is a place for pretext stops in police work. But conducted indiscriminately or with malice, they are a primary source of police misconduct, charges of racial profiling, and severely strained community relations. Look for much more of the latter if Arizona's law is not stopped. (The Justice Department seems poised to take action against the state this week or next.)

Is there a problem with immigration-related crime? Of course. U.S. cops in border cities (think San Diego-Tijuana; Calexico-Mexicali; Nogales [Arizona]-Nogales [Sonora]; El Paso-Ciudad Juarez; Brownsville-Matamoros) are intimately familiar with the real-world stories behind the headlines, as are police far away from the Mexican border: crime attributable to undocumented immigrants. It's a fact, and we can't wish it away.

This fact (and distortions of it) fuels anti-immigrant sentiment, especially if one happens to live in a neighborhood fraught with crimes committed by undocumented persons. But we must find the national nerve, maturity, and wisdom to frame the crime issue more comprehensively, and helpfully.

Undocumented immigrants, for example, are far more likely to be victims than perpetrators of crimes. Because of their status, they fly below the radar, stashing the cash they make from their backbreaking labors, then praying it won't get stolen. Undocumented immigrant women, in particular, are more likely than U.S. citizens to be the victims of domestic violence, sexual assault, and human trafficking. But they rarely call the cops to report a crime. Especially in cities or states whose leaders lack compassion, or who pander to the inflamed passions of immigration critics.

Further, many if not most "immigrant" crimes are directly related to the U.S.-led global "war on drugs." This includes property crime, e.g., stealing to finance one's next fix, as well as violent offenses. With Mexican drug cartels having made deep incursions into the U.S., and homegrown drug gangs continuing to capitalize on illicit, untaxed profits, it's no wonder, for example, that Phoenix has become the "kidnapping capital" of the country, if not the world. The sooner we realize the fundamental folly of American drug laws -- and change them -- the sooner we'll enjoy dramatically improved public safety.

Comprehensive immigration reform is imperative. But as political hot potatoes go, this one's a scorcher. Rove's boss learned that the hard way. In his eight years in office, W., who the last time I checked was a Republican, didn't come close to achieving even a modicum of reform. Yet Rove writes that Obama, with only a year and a half in office (a busy one at that), would rather see a "racial wedge to inflame tensions between Latinos and Republicans" than "do... the hard work needed to pass comprehensive immigration reform."

So, when it comes to Arizona's immigration law, is Rove being dumb or deceitful? Since he's given to whoppers (denying his role in the firing of U.S. Attorneys; lying until threatened with indictment in the outing of CIA agent Valerie Plame Wilson, to cite just two instances), I'm going with disingenuousness.

Obama clearly needs to exercise more leadership on immigration reform, but Rove ridiculously labels the president's handling of the issue "shameful." That's an apt description of his own behavior.

 
 
 

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Karl Rove's June 21 column in Newsweek attacks President Obama's concerns about Arizona's recently passed immigration law. The president, writes Rove, "willingly mischaracterizes the Arizona law beca...
Karl Rove's June 21 column in Newsweek attacks President Obama's concerns about Arizona's recently passed immigration law. The president, writes Rove, "willingly mischaracterizes the Arizona law beca...
 
 
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11:03 AM on 07/07/2010
Why the law may be constitutional:
The Anti-Loitering provision:
The section that states it is a crime to publicly solicit employment if you are an illegal immigrant. A 1999 Supreme Court decision (Chicago v Morales 547 U.S. 41) struck down by a 6-3 margin, a Chicago ordinance against loitering because the law was sufficiently vague. In concurring opinions, three members of the Court stated that loitering was not a protected activity but this particular statute was unconstitutional because it did not identify a particular illegal activity in the Statute. This ruling could prove problematic for the Federal Government’s case.

The Lawful Contact Provsion:
Under current Supreme Court rulings (Whren v United States 517 US 806), the court has determined that a police officer may make a warrantless arrest if the Officer has a subjective belief that the individual may have been engaged in a crime. If, after arrest it is determined that the only crime committed by the individual was the crime of being an illegal immigrant the arrest is deemed to be constitutional as long as the Officer does not base his or her arrest on the belief that the individual is an illegal immigrant.

Relative to your point of view, I would think that before the law can be declared discriminatory a case would have to made that it is being applied in a discriminatory manner.
08:59 PM on 07/06/2010
I know a few Phx cops, your Malibu example seems a bit speculative and maybe exaggerated.
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dlo2
12:11 AM on 07/05/2010
The situation in Texas is tragic for its people. It is the state that stands as the number one US state with the most uninsured in the United States, not just undocumented immigrants. It is also a very sad metaphor for what is so grievously wrong in a Republican dominated state. My colleagues tell me that San Antonio is the amputation capital for diabetics in the US. This situation and all the others like it ...are preventable and demonstrates profound negligence on the part of those who prescribe public policy: the Texas governor, senators, and congressional representatives.
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Tom S Cedar Mill
This ain't no party, this ain't no disco.
12:12 PM on 06/27/2010
The Arizona law is more about gaining political points with Cloneservatives than with addressing illegal immigration. If they wanted to reduce the number of illegals who come here for jobs they would reduce the supply of jobs by cracking down on the employers who hire them.
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desidid
10:44 AM on 06/27/2010
Scrub my comment and I promise you I will contact HuffPo post haste.
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desidid
10:43 AM on 06/27/2010
This writer calls Rove naive, and he thinks only black and Hispanic men are profiled by police.
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DantesE
01:24 AM on 06/27/2010
scrubbed my comment? Hmmmm
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07:41 PM on 06/26/2010
Karl Rove is a lot of things but "naive" should never appear in the same sentence (or title).
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MikeLawson
Still to the Left, still Right for it
03:59 PM on 06/26/2010
FIne & jail ALL employers of illegal immigrants. If you cut off the employment they will not be here for work when they can't get work. However, that would require the Republicans to fine and jail their own members, so its much easier to go with laws that could stand to jeopardize the rights of those born and raised here who happen to be hispanic. If you want to keep flies from living in your home, you don't leave out feed for them to plant their eggs into and hatch. They will go elsewhere. I'm not calling immigrants flies or maggots, I'm using a simple analogy that maybe the wingnuts can understand. Stop allowing these corporations to employ illegals, start putting the management of the companies in jail, fine them heavily, and they will stop hiring the workers they are exploiting now. All that happens is the illegal immigrants get punished, but the people laying out the work for them just hire the next wave of them in a cyclical pattern but face no criminal prosecution for doing so. When the Republicans write and pass a law that requires federal prison for repeat hirings, or requires heavy fines for even first-time hiring offenders, then maybe people will take them seriously. Until then they are just targeting people who are not white, treating them in one way while allowing their enabling employers who profit greatly from the illegal hirings to get away with nothing more than a slap at the wrist.
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quillerm
02:51 PM on 06/26/2010
I use to live in California but the Democrats ran the state into the ground with high taxes. There are to many give away programs that broke the budget and crime ran rampant throughout the state. I remember when San Francisco was a great town to visit but now your confronted at every corner by some vagrant demanding cash. If that isn't bad enough they also use the garbage cans on the street as urinals‘. I think the State is to far gone even for Republicans to clean up because all the towns and cities are run by Democrats that tax business owners out of the State. Now that California is against the Arizona Immigration Law we can expect a few hundred thousand Illegal’s to start milking our dependency programs and running us further in the hole. We need politicians that are willing to make tough decisions to cut back spending, fight for legal citizens, cut taxes, and start cleaning up our cities. The Democrats have failed to do their job but Republicans must make massive wins to turn the tide.
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MikeLawson
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04:01 PM on 06/26/2010
How's that Republican two-term actor-turn Governator working for ya? I thought Arnold was going to Sacramento to clean house and turn everything around? Yeah, I left too, but it wasn't because of taxes, it was because idiots elect people like Arnold and do so with a straight face.
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HowdyDoody
Freud Woman
10:23 AM on 06/27/2010
California has had a tax revolt going on since the 1970's. When I lived there, taxes were high, you could go to the University of California virtually for free, roads were the best in the world, you could get a job just by walking down the street, everything and everyone had $$ and fun. California was a fabulous place to live.
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03:24 PM on 07/29/2010
Howdy

Maybe CA has seen the light San Diego & Orange counties have gone blue. I't the rural, inland areas (big farm, etc) that still carry on for Repub's

Meg has blown a lot of her own money trying to buy the Governor's seat with endless vile, untrue, non issues messaging.

Jerry Brown will carry the election. He was a good gov in past, as was his father "Pat"
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02:37 PM on 06/26/2010
There is another side to this you know. Instead of asking people to "show their papers" like they are in occupied France, why not hit the places that hire illegally? That would be the route to take if you wanted to solve the problem instead of just using it as an election year wedge issue.
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MikeLawson
Still to the Left, still Right for it
04:03 PM on 06/26/2010
They won't do that, because the corporations that profit from hiring them are campaign contributors who will complain that it places too much burden on private business to have to verify the legal status of workers. Just another righwingnut excuse for protecting greedy corporations from punishment while punishing people who look a certain way, regardless of their being born in the USA.
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HowdyDoody
Freud Woman
10:24 AM on 06/27/2010
Absolutely! Plus, migrant farm workers have come to this country ever since this country was owned by Spain and Mexico (they weren't migrants then).
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desidid
01:06 AM on 06/27/2010
They do hit the places of employment, but only once so they don't have to fine the employers. If a subsequent raid found they were continuing the practice, they would be getting fined and jailed. The government has gotten around that, by not hitting the same place twice and that is why their number of business fined is so absymal. They have no intention of actually enforcing immigration laws today, and after the amnesty they will not be better at it. They have determined what the policy is, and they don't care what we think. I don't think they ever really thought the backlash would be this large or severe.
02:32 PM on 06/26/2010
Aside from the racial implications or the daunting prospect of any American being asked to prove citizenship for speeding, this bill sounds like an absolute jail-buster. That does not sound like good news for Arizona's budget.
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HowdyDoody
Freud Woman
10:27 AM on 06/27/2010
The governor can't think her way out of a paper bag, so she hasn't thought about the implications, other than what she thinks will get her elected. If Arizona wants to be the racist capital of the western world, they will pay a heavy price, both in law enforcement actions, lawsuits, and boycotts.
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quillerm
01:56 PM on 06/26/2010
Never reward someone for breaking the law unless they are a left wing politician. The honor of applying to become a United States citizen comes with great responsibility. The applicant must not have a criminal history. Be of good moral character and have an affinity for the principles of the US Constitution. The applicant must be able to read, write, speak and understand English. The applicant must have a basic understanding of US Government and History. There are also residency requirements. In light of these requirements illegal aliens have violated several of the key conditions to apply for US citizenship. There are thousands of people who what to immigrate legally to the US. Their applications must be considered first. Illegal’s must be required to obtain waivers for their breaking the law before being allowed to apply for citizenship.

Our family and friends want to send a message of support to Governor Brewer for her courage in the Illegal immigration debate. We along with over 70% of the American people agree with the Arizona Immigration Law. Obama lacks the courage to secure our borders or protect law abiding American citizens. But Governor Brewer cares about the security of our Nation and safety of our families. Just ignore the liberal media and Democrats that demonize your efforts we will vote them out in November.
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Aurical
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02:40 PM on 06/26/2010
Spam
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MikeLawson
Still to the Left, still Right for it
04:03 PM on 06/26/2010
70% do no such thing. Turn off Fox. Turn of Limbaugh.
02:32 PM on 06/27/2010
Yes, yes they do - how about you turn off Olbermann and MSNBC?

A nation that doesn't maintain it's boarders or enforce its laws (Or only enforces them when it is expediant to do so) won't last long.
11:38 PM on 06/25/2010
The real crime is a president, an attorney general, secretaries of homeland security and state that have the arrogance to announce they have no intention of enforcing immigration laws. Obama even went so far as to appoint a sanctuary city adherent as the liaison between ICE and the states. He doesn't think even criminal illegals should be deported.
I suggest all of those in favor of amnesty agree to double their taxes to cover the health care, education, food stamps, EIC, Section 8 housing, and college for the 30 million likely to apply. Either the massive social programs or the illegals have to go. The country can't afford both. Denying the citizens of Arizona protection from the drug dealers,
murderers. rapists, kidnappers invading the state is an outrage. What law gives criminal
illegals more rights than citizens? If Obama wants to double the population of the unskilled,
low wage, undereducated, he can pay for them himself.
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Skygazer
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02:41 AM on 06/26/2010
It's almost like Obama single-handedly created the situation in your world. It must make things very simple for you.

Arizona will be lucky if it can afford a police department after the multiple boycotts, the deterioration of it's tax base from illegals and legals alike taking their business elsewhere.

This law is racist and an abomination and you should be ashamed of yourself for lying about it and being an apologist for apartheid and racial abuse.
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quillerm
01:58 PM on 06/26/2010
Re: Federal Agency Boycott of Arizona: How dare Obama use my tax dollars for blackmail and extortion. Arizona's new Immigration Law is supported by a majority of US citizens, This Federal boycott is the Democrat Party using Federal Agency's to help Illegals enter and live in the US without fear of arrest. Obama is using Federal tax dollars to facilitate criminal behavior for political gain and Voter fraud. Governor Brewer and the people of Arizona must not give in to Blackmail and extortion by the Obama Administration. US citizens that support our laws will help Arizona in their battle to protect our families and secure our border.
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Chris Morrison
Independent Centrist
06:02 AM on 06/26/2010
"Denying the citizens of Arizona protection from the drug dealers,
murderers. rapists, kidnappers invading the state is an outrage."

This law guarantees the only ones we'll be protected from are the Hispanic ones. Where's the laws that will arbitrarily target the WHITE drug dealers, murderers, rapists, and kidnappers? My guess is more of them will be slipping through the cracks while we're busy looking for ghosts under every bed.
09:28 AM on 06/25/2010
Why hasn't someone suggested a state law that requires that ALL citizens carry proof of citizenship status at all times. Heard of a National ID card? Make it an arrestable offense not to carry proof. Get rid of this current " law" and the language about reasonable suspicion. If they're going to be checking during traffic stops anyway, what's the difference, except of course that this kind of law could be applied to all, rather than to just Hispanics or whatever other minority you wish to get rid of.
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kfdan
05:57 PM on 06/25/2010
'Papers' ... the nazi refrain ... echos in my ears! The point being we are dangerously close to being a fascist state as it is ... this type of law just emboldens police who need their discretion harnessed.
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Puller58
Man of Mystery
07:52 PM on 06/25/2010
A simple solution that our Congress would rather take rat poison than adopt.