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Norm Stamper

Norm Stamper

Posted: December 2, 2010 09:34 PM

The troops have spoken. 70 percent of service personnel surveyed in DoD's recently released study either approve of openly gay men and women serving in the military, or they couldn't care less. But what of the 30 percent (more if one counts only the Marines and only those assigned to combat posts) who favor keeping "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"? That's a whole bunch of soldiers, sailors, and Marines who fear... whatever. What should the military do about it?

In a word, nothing.

Well, not exactly nothing. If Congress repeals DADT (and, in the process makes clear the military's obligation to accord all its members basic human rights), the Pentagon will have a duty to ensure that directives are issued, compliance demanded, consequences outlined, and training provided. Just as it does with every policy shift. Just as it did with racial integration.

We all know the tragic story of returning black World War II veterans. Their acceptance within the ranks in time of war counted for exactly nothing as they later sought to patronize hotels and restaurants, ride at the front of the bus, secure housing, employment, education, even voting rights. Ultimately, through agitation, education, legislation, and landmark legal verdicts, we got it right as a nation. Legally speaking. Of course, the model, imperfect as it was, had already been there, in the form of a nominally egalitarian society within the military. Talk about your paradoxes. Talk about implementing controversial policies during "time of war."

For years I marveled at the military's leadership in advancing the cause of civil rights within the ranks. By according its black members the right -- and obligations -- that bind all members of the service, the United States military served as a prototype of how integration could work. Colin Powell is only one of many blacks who made it to the top, or close to it, on the strength of merit, not color. It wasn't just Brown v. Board of Education, the Voting Rights Act, or a potent political movement that achieved civil rights for people of color. It was the example of the military.

The military now has an opportunity to prove to the rest of the world that as massive, complex, and bureaucratic as it is, and as conservative as its traditions, good, bad, and benign, may be, the institution can be hospitable and welcoming to openly gay men and women. To the enormous benefit of the nation, and all its citizens.

But what if that gay soldier in the shower makes unwanted sexual advances? Or the lesbian lieutenant comes on sexually to her unwilling sergeant? The answer is plain: Make an example of them. If an investigation establishes wrongdoing, it's time for discipline (preferably administered more quickly and comprehensively than has historically been the case with straight male soldiers or officers sexually harassing or assaulting female peers or subordinates). Straight or gay, "no" means no.

Happily, the vast majority of service personnel will do what they're told. Which will not be a hard sell given that most have already gone on record that they will not mourn the inevitable death of DADT.

Of course, if what bugs you as a pro-DADT warrior is the idea (or the reality) of being forced to get naked in a shower or jammed into a tight submarine or fox hole with someone who's attracted to members of the same sex, the answer for you is simple: Deal with it. That brother or sister is a human being, you are a human being: Work it out. Straight cops across the country have been lathering up with openly gay colleagues for a long time now. Yet, incidents of locker room misconduct are so uncommon as not to register at all in internal affairs data.

Having spent three-and-a-half decades in a paramilitary institution, I can attest to the rarity of a policy, any policy, that is embraced by all. But I can also confirm that most police personnel adhere to even those policies they find onerous. Why? In part, because they're made to understand the penalty for not following orders. There's every reason to believe military personnel will likewise comply.

As chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Mike Mullen, who served with many gays throughout his long and distinguished service, pointed out, military personnel who can't or won't accept the new policy will have to find another line of work. (Don't look for a mass exodus.) The same is true for those considering military service in the future.

Ideally, military personnel across all branches of the service will welcome the policy. Soldiers, regardless of sexual orientation, working together, facing danger together, sacrificing together: The power of such a message is inescapable. The military's open acceptance of openly gay and lesbian personnel will be a beacon of hope to young gay kids who need to believe that life gets better.

Perhaps it will also send a message to voters and lawmakers throughout the country that denial of marriage for members of the LGBT community is equally bigoted, unconstitutionally discriminatory, and indefensible.

The Defense Department, seen by some as the most unlikely of institutions, is poised, with the help of Congress -- and if not our lawmakers, then the courts -- to usher in a new era of the few, the proud, the straight, and the openly gay.

 
 
 

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The troops have spoken. 70 percent of service personnel surveyed in DoD's recently released study either approve of openly gay men and women serving in the military, or they couldn't care less. But ...
The troops have spoken. 70 percent of service personnel surveyed in DoD's recently released study either approve of openly gay men and women serving in the military, or they couldn't care less. But ...
 
 
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Cacey
Ignore rudeness, honor discussion
06:56 AM on 12/05/2010
Given the size of the multi-billion dollar clothing industry all designed to make men and women look sexy, has anyone considered that any sexual attraction may well be to the man in uniform and not naked in the shower?
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09:54 PM on 12/04/2010
"The Defense Department, seen by some as the most unlikely of institutions, is poised, with the help of Congress -- and if not our lawmakers, then the courts -- to usher in a new era of the few, the proud, the straight, and the openly gay. "

Chief, you're quite eloquent for a Boss. I only have 30 years on-the-job but I would follow you through the door any time!!
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KsWrangler
09:06 PM on 12/04/2010
I somehow missed this.
The blog was good, but the title should get a Pulitzer.
Ϡ:ͻ)
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justlw
Nehemiah Scudder 2012: Now More Than Ever
04:34 PM on 12/04/2010
As I watch the news footage of high ranking members of our government spending hours and hours of time in meetings about this, I think: seriously? Really? Don't you go home at night and think to yourself, "Wow, I spent the day talking about whether or not we should allow people to serve in the military based on the fact that other people obsess on what the people in question do in private."

It's really very strange, and says volumes more about the kinks in the cables of those who worry about this than anything else, and we should quit wasting valuable time and money catering to their hangups.
10:30 AM on 12/04/2010
Harry Truman desegregated the military (see: http://www.trumanlibrary.org/civilrights/freeserv.htm). In the report of the President's Committee, they started with an important statement: "Whereas it is essential that there be maintained in the armed services of the United States the highest standards of democracy, with equality of treatment and opportunity for all those who serve in our country's defense." Where is this statement in the DADT debate? Have we forgotten that democracy applies to minorities? It is clear that elements of the military were vehemently opposed to desegregation. The country did the right thing, and segregation in the military is a thing of the past.
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dadw5boys
Disabled Vietnam Vet
12:13 AM on 12/04/2010
I am trying to look at both sides fairly without all phobia.

Maybe the V A is worried about the longterm cost and treatment of Aides.

HIV can kick back a lot of false negatives I hear am if they end up treating a disease they caught begore entering the Military then ........

See what I mean trying to understand the arguements on both sides. Rights are right but predisposed is .......
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Grada3784
God is a Parent, not an abuser.
12:36 AM on 12/04/2010
You do realize that there are plenty of straight people with AIDS, don't you?
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dadw5boys
Disabled Vietnam Vet
01:36 AM on 12/04/2010
yeah thought about that after I had to sign off to help so with homework.

So many varibles but in the end it comes down to allowing a Citizen to serve in thier Countrys Military if the chose too.
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dadw5boys
Disabled Vietnam Vet
12:08 AM on 12/04/2010
After all the straight men have died in war we will send in the Gays and if there are any Gays left alove they will have to father the Children of a new USA .

So protect the America's Gays and keep them safe .
09:48 PM on 12/03/2010
The whole thing is so ridiculous--the result, historically, of U.S. puritanism.

In The Netherlands, complete strangers--from the elderly to adolescents--have no problem stripping naked to take saunas in public bathhouses. Nobody cares--or probably even thinks about--the fact that there are surely gays and lesbians among them. Americans seriously need to grow up about sexuality and nudity.
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Sister Bluebird
12:04 AM on 12/04/2010
Thats because they don't come from a sexually repressed culture full of false protestant mores.
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Grada3784
God is a Parent, not an abuser.
12:38 AM on 12/04/2010
The Netherlands have a very strong Protestant background, as in the Dutch Reformed Church that I grew up near.
08:59 PM on 12/03/2010
"Enlistment for general service implies that the individual may be sent anywhere — to any ship or station where he is needed. Men on board ship live in particularly close association; in their messes, one man sits beside another; their hammocks or bunks are close together; in their common tasks they work side by side; and in particular tasks such as those of a gun's crew, they form a closely knit, highly coordinated team. How many white men would choose, of their own accord, that their closest associates in sleeping quarters, at mess, and in a gun's crew should be of another race? How many would accept such conditions, if required to do so, without resentment and just as a matter of course? The General Board believes that the answer is 'Few, if any,' and further believes that if the issue were forced, there would be a lowering of contentment, teamwork and discipline in the service." (Navy General Board, 1942, p. 1)
Senator Richard Russell in response to Truman: “The mandatory intermingling of the races throughout the services will be a terrific blow to the efficiency and fighting power of the armed services....It is sure to increase the numbers of men who will be disabled through communicable diseases. It will increase the rate of crime committed by servicemen." (Quoted in Binkin et al., 1982, p. 26).
08:45 AM on 12/04/2010
Thank you! Exactly on point! And we all know how the military fell apart after racial integration--just as predicted! Sigh . . . .
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edgarcaycedoc
08:12 PM on 12/03/2010
I served alongside gays in the military in the 70's. There was no problem with them doing their duty. The only problem that emerged during my time there, was when an E-3 was caught "in flagrant delecto" with a 2LT in a homosexual act. Having access to the facts of the event, I was interested to see that neither was disciplined for being caught in a homosexual act. Both, however, were charged with "fraternization." Mingling of officers and enlisted men/women is strictly monitored. And it wasn't because they wer caught in a homosexual act, as boy(s)/girl(s) were also disciplined when their relationship with a girl(s)/boy(s) was found to be "fraternization."
jerryatthebeach
Till Death Do You Barrier Island...
07:12 PM on 12/03/2010
Not to sound like a snob, but most of us wouldn't even consider sex with another person until they had a full lab screen. Most of the people I see today look dirty...
06:58 PM on 12/03/2010
Mr. Stamper taught a class of mine at the University of Washington in the late 90s. I liked him quite a bit, and I think he was an excellent police chief. So hi!

Also, McCain is a putz, and they need to get rid of DADT already. I have been military and so is/has been nearly every member of my family going back at least to WWII, and military members more than anyone accept that it's a top-down organization. There will be some bumps during the process, but it will be implemented, probably much better than the rest of the US population could do.
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RButler
"Who wouldn't love a person who had a pony?"
05:31 PM on 12/03/2010
Ya know, every time McCain speaks on this issue, the news channels should flash that photo of him hugging Bush in a submissive manner, head down.  
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BrianMac
04:46 PM on 12/05/2010
Not fair. No fan of McCain's by any stretch but that's because his arms were severely injured in Viet Nam (broken) and were not reset properly. As a result, he cannot lift his arms higher than his shoulders.
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RButler
"Who wouldn't love a person who had a pony?"
04:52 PM on 12/05/2010
It wasn't his arms.  It was his head buried in Bush's chest like he was crying.  Usually, when men hug their heads are at the same level just past each other.  
04:54 PM on 12/03/2010
Sarge! I gotta problem!

What is it, Marine.

It's about Jones.

What about him?

Well...you know.

No, I don't. Spit it out, Marine.

He's...

He's what?

He's...gay.

And?

Well...you know.

No, I don't. Did he do something?

No.

Make a pass at you?

No.

Threaten to make a pass at you?

No.

Then what is your problem, Marine? Seems that you seem to have a bit of problem keeping your mind on your duties and out of Jones' pants. The next time I hear you whining about how one of your fellow Marines didn't actually do anything, you'll be cleaning the latrines on the entire base. Do I make myself clear?
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Edward Standley
opinionated jerk
07:11 PM on 12/03/2010
Sounds about right! :) DI's do that kinda stuff effortlessly.
03:46 PM on 12/03/2010
I find this whole issue quite amusing and entertaining. I wonder how it will all work out. I would imagine people will get use to things and the dust will settle. Of course I am sure that in the process gay people will get hurt but I am sure it will shake out in the long run
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DCmykl
A long seemingly endless edge
05:17 PM on 12/03/2010
Gay people are used to getting hurt. We'll cope.
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exxman
I Am The 99%
07:07 PM on 12/03/2010
Why would you assume gay people would be the one's who get hurt?
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cwebster
predominantly exasperated
01:10 AM on 12/04/2010
They're usually the ones who are attacked for merely existing...