The New York Times story this Sunday covering the bombing and the slaughter in Norway by a Christian Fundamentalist ends with these words from a researcher at the London School of Economics:
"With 9-11 in America people could ask "Who are they?" and could pour their rage out on someone else. But we can't disavow this person, he's one of us."
Therein lies the rub. "He's one of us" -- what? One of us, a Norwegian? A Christian? Whatever, he is certainly one of "them" One of them -- what?
How about he's one of us -- human? And how about every bit of common sense thinking and questioning that flows from that?
There are many among us who buy into their professing.
Anders Breivik, because most are not drinking his particular flavour of Koolaid, is not to be considered a Christian - just because.
Logic, like mathematics, eludes the religious.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/26/bill-oreilly-media-breivik-christian_n_909498.html
But there is a difference between him and those who perpetrated 9/11. They were part of an organized group of thousands (perhaps millions) of people who believe that such actions are justified and heroic. They still believe this today. They didn't snap and lose touch with reality. They are rational and devoted and methodical. And they are still actively pursuing their goals.
We all share this heritage but seem to learn little from it.
Human intellect evolves when it moves beyond religion.
However, I agree with you about history and about this guy being an zealot ... he's just not a religious zealot.
This man found a sick alliance, perhaps because he did not have a strong healthy family...sort of like the youth who choose violent gangs to affiliate with...because it benefits him or her in some way psychologically.
What is the most disturbing is that in Norway, for the most part, each individual is truly valued, people watch out for one another's children, the communities are small and tight.
This so called lone wolf was a loner and somehow fell through the holes in what is normally quite a strong sane system.
What I find heartening is that the Norwegians ask themselves what is their role as a society and as individuals in all this. They take responsibility and much will come from this in terms of helping children who might also go down a bad path. They do not externalize the blame.
Yes Norman, we ALL must as humans ask ourselves why one of "ours" is capable of this!
And take care of each and every human being.
Timothy McVeigh was painted as a "Christian", but there was never any evidence that what he did was for any religious calling. So he "probably" was NOT a Christian. What McViegh was, and what this Norwiegian is, is mentally deranged.
The rest of your rant is nonsense, since you're purely guessing about this man's religion.
The hypocrisy is staggering.
He is one.
He is not a cult, religious group, militia, or sect.
They are called neo-Nazis.
Neo nazi = Cult
Sometimes there is no reason or motive for evil, it just is, and the only test is on humanity, not Norway, or the Muslim religion.
For these atrocities happen everyday, everywhere, and all races, creeds, and religions commit them.
So if there is a " TEST" it is a test on humanity. Evil has existed in humans since man first walked the planet, so one might say that if we are being tested , we are failing, that is failing to improve the species.We are US..
Concur about the existence of evil in the world, and your comments about it.
"Hate-propaganda against Italy and Denmark are incredibly bigoted. Norway's own violent "Marxist/Islamist Jugend" (red youth, SOS Racisme, Blitz, in collaboration with Jihad young) who has injured and terrorized hundreds of cultural conservatives in recent years in Oslo is not mentioned with a single word ... It might be fine as long as multikulturalistene controls the violent mob?
It is unacceptable that the Labor Party, the SOCIALIST left PARTY, the Christian Democratic party finances, these violent extremists.
Comic to see every single European cultural Marxist "empty around the mouth" of hatred against Denmark and Italy. The only Western European countries that have a touch of wise leadership.
It is our duty to ensure that support is the only anti-racist cultural conservative organization that has the guts enough to ride in Oslo's streets-SIOE. FpU is another anti-racist cultural conservative organization. Unfortunately, they do not have guts to demonstrate against other than toll calling and high gasoline prices, etc.
However, it is understandable. None dare because they know they are being harassed and attacked. But people are starting to get tired of this utryggheten. As a result, organizations such as the EDL PROVIDED and other forms of civil protection."
http://www.document.no/anders-behring-breivik/