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Pandora Young

Posted: December 10, 2010 07:17 AM

Aaron Sorkin Misses the Mark on Animal Rights


So Sarah Palin shot a caribou on her lousy reality show. Killed it, butchered it, and stuck in her freezer. This is one of the least offensive things that Palin has done in the course of her political career. And yet it has Hollywood screenwriter Aaron Sorkin up in arms. In a hilarious and widely read rant on our beloved HuffPost, he tears into Palin for making a critter snuff film:

Like 95% of the people I know, I don't have a visceral (look it up) problem eating meat or wearing a belt. But like absolutely everybody I know, I don't relish the idea of torturing animals. I don't enjoy the fact that they're dead and I certainly don't want to volunteer to be the one to kill them and if I were picked to be the one to kill them in some kind of Lottery-from-Hell, I wouldn't do a little dance of joy while I was slicing the animal apart.


Well, bully for you, Mr. Sorkin. But it doesn't much matter to a dead animal how you felt about butchering it. It's just as dead.

That you would prefer an underpaid factory worker kill your dinner for you instead of doing it yourself does not make you morally superior to Sarah Palin. Killing an animal to eat is not a "Lottery-from-hell," it's the food chain. That you can choose to participate in the food chain without getting your hands dirty speaks not to your ethics, but to your financial privilege. No, wealthy Sarah Palin doesn't have to kill her own food in order to eat -- but millions of people do.

As for what you call "torture," have you ever been to a factory farm, where most of the meat Americans eat comes from? Livestock are generally kept in crowded, uncomfortable, and unsanitary conditions. They are deprived of natural social interaction with their own kind, fed subpar diets, and subjected to painful practices such as having teeth, tails or beaks removed without anesthesia. In sharp contrast, wild animals like the caribou Palin was hunting have the pleasure of living in their natural habitats, free from cages and steroids and cattle prods. A brief period of suffering at the end of a hunted wild animal's life is nothing compared to the daily torment animals endure on factory farms.

If you genuinely want to take a stand against cruelty to animals, start by identifying the real problems. It's not hunters. It's not Republicans. It's certainly not The Learning Channel.

Real perpetrators of animal suffering are the farming systems that reduce sentient creatures to profit margins, the social trends that reduce pets to status symbols and fashion accessories, and the cosmetic companies that reduce companion animals to laboratory test subjects. But most of all, they are the consumers who choose to look the other way.

Sarah Palin may not know the difference between North and South Korea, but at least she knows where that meat in her freezer came from. Here, Mr. Sorkin, are a few sites you can check out to learn about your own dinner:


And if it makes you feel any better, cocaine is 100% vegetarian.



This article first appeared on FishbowlLA.

 

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11:22 AM on 01/11/2011
Factory Farming is what makes affordable animal products possible. Human beings do not have a need for animal products. If you don't like the cruelty of factory farming consider going vegan.
11:07 AM on 01/11/2011
Very few Americans need to hunt to get adequate nutrition. Human beings do not have a need to get nutrition by eating animals. The cruelty of factory farming is what makes affordable and available animal products possible. If you don't like being part of the problem you can go vegan. http://www.tryveg.com
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harmonikasavingsbonds
Standard?Nonsense! I DEMAND an automatic poodle!
08:05 PM on 12/15/2010
Someone should hunt PALIN.
11:25 AM on 01/11/2011
Not the best comment to make giving that a Congresswoman who was on a "target map" just got shot.
06:15 PM on 12/15/2010
Mr. Sorkin might do well to know the difference between a caribou and a moose. And, on the subject of moose and killing them for "political gain," he might look to the most famous progressive, Teddy Roosevelt, who so loved hunting moose that he named his political party after them.
niko73
Dem belly full but we hungry
03:53 PM on 12/15/2010
I don't hunt. Never have. But one reason I respect hunters who eat their game is because it forces a person to realize that an animal has to die in order for them to obtain meat. I believe this connection, as obvious as it is, is lost to many Americans today. I’d rather have someone fully know and realize than animal must die to provide meat instead of a bunch of holier-than-thou yuppies thinking they support animal rights because they’re not the one pulling the trigger.

I think Sorkin fell right into this trap and I thank Young for calling him on it.
niko73
Dem belly full but we hungry
02:57 PM on 12/15/2010
Spot-on. My sentiments exactly. Young: 1, Sorkin: 0

I understand and agree with Sorkin's point about Palin killing an animal for political gain. But I kept reading his piece and one theme kept coming up: Sorkin loves to eat meat but hates killing animals.

That position just doesn't sit with me. It bothered me that he was attacking the person killing the animal, yet he eats meat. Why not condemn a butcher, then? Both kill animals. One kills it so he can eat it; the other one kills so you can eat it. Either way, a person kills an animal for its meat. Someone who does it for themselves isn’t any more evil than someone who kills it for you.

I also had a hard time buying his argument that hunters must not be happy when they kill an animal. I guess by that logic, butchers should hate their profession, live in constant guilt, and despise coming into work every morning. As Young so deftly put it, I don't care, and neither does the animal, what you FEEL; the act of killing is what matters.

I eat meat, but I had a lot of vegetarians agree with this position. Thanks, Pandora, for countering what I thought was a very weakly argued position.
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Progress08
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04:39 PM on 12/14/2010
Ya, but he missed it for the purpose of comedy(sarcasm at least). I do wish that I had a small homestead or farm though. I wouldn't mind killing my own dinner as long as I raised it organically (think polyface farms).
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SouPro
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09:54 AM on 12/14/2010
The best HP blog post in a long time! Congratulations Mrs. Young!
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Siren Song
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02:17 AM on 12/14/2010
A rather pathetic and off the mark rebuttal to Mr. Sorkin's excellent piece. But you could have a promising career as a butcher, hunter, vivisector, or NRA spokeswoman.
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SouPro
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09:34 AM on 12/14/2010
Sorkin feels he is better than Palin because he would never personally harm the animals he eats but he has no problem with others doing it for him.

I am confused how pointing out the cruelties of animal farms is a prelude to a promising career in an of the above professions. Did you even read what Mrs. Young wrote?
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Siren Song
I used to be Snow White but I drifted - Mae West
04:46 PM on 12/14/2010
Just replied, but my post vanished.

Well, that'll teach me to scan (and post!) whilst tipsy. We animal people can get pretty indignant, eh? While I still enjoyed Mr. Sorkin's piece, sincere apologies to Ms. Young.
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Whiskeyman09
04:22 PM on 12/14/2010
It was neither pathetic or off the mark and Mr. Sorkin's piece was far from excellent. And calling someone a butcher, a hunter or an NRA spokeswoman doesn't seem like much of a slam...but a vivisector? You could have a promising career as a user of dumb words.
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Lawson Meadows
Plant in your kids, the seeds of greatness!
02:07 AM on 12/14/2010
Ms. Young,

You crafted a fine, well written, specious argument: Mr. Sorkin should not criticize Ms. Palin's actions because there are worse offenders... Seriously, is that your argument?

I cannot speak for him, or you, but for me, I am upset and offended by the treatment of animals during industrial "processing" - AND - by Ms. Palin's willingness to kill needlessly for entertainment and possible political gain.

Mr. Sorkin wrote about the latter, and not the former, and you make it appear as though that omission negates his points, when in fact they are only related by the final result, as we all are.

I find killing animals, objectionable when done for entertainment; most hunters would not do it otherwise. However, it is necessary and understandable when it is the only way to acquire food, but Ms. Palin... really? She did it for other reasons, which Mr. Sorkin apparently, and I definitely, found unjustified, unnecessary, and yes, morally unpalatable.

I agree with you about the farm systems, social trends, cosmetic companies, and consumers, but disagree that hunters (as described above) are not part of the problem: It is not an either/or, it is a both.

Including those sites was a good attempt at education and enlightenment... thanks. But then you dent your credibility as a writer by that final non-relevant, childish, "got'cha" cheap shot at the end... moral superiority anyone?

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Berettasskeeter
For what we are about to receive, may we be truly
08:57 AM on 12/14/2010
Palin and her party took the meat of the caribou she killed away, so they are eating it or donating it. I didn't catch which. Was it done for entertainment, or was it merely a part of following her around as she goes about her life? Don't know, don't care! I'm not a fan of reality shows, but I watched this one, a replay, to see what everyone was carping about. I'm a hunter. I found nothing objectionable at all, though I did think it hilarious that her father's riflescope had been knocked askew.
I do not care about the ease in which farm animals may live, having worked farms as a boy. They are bred to be meat, or workers. The meat is cared for to the extent that it will be sold, once butchered. The workers are cared for as due their status as valuable workers.
That few here understand either of those things merely highlights the ignorance, and hypocrisy, of the Left.
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Lawson Meadows
Plant in your kids, the seeds of greatness!
10:38 PM on 12/14/2010
Berettasskeeter,

The two things I respect about you: a dislike for reality shows, and being a marine (I was Special Forces back when they were, and went through airborne training with sixty recon Marines - respect!) But....

The fact that you missed my point is troubling. I am not against hunting for the purpose of survival, but because the vast majority of hunters do so more for entertainment and the fun of killing.

I find the argument about eating the meat empty most of the time, but even if true, the idea that a person "gets off" on killing is simply wrong. The fact that you don't see it that way, well I guess we will not be running an escape and evasion course together anytime soon.

Farm animals are a separate issue, with only a vague peripheral relevance to Ms. Palin's actions. I would not have addressed them if Ms. Young had not tried to imply that because they are treated poorly and Mr. Sorkin did not complain about them too, somehow that negates his criticism of Palin's actions and motives.

Then we get to the politics: you don't know me. You made an assumption that I was not a gun tot'in, NRA support'in, conservative, and must be a hypocritical, ignorant, liberal. The truth is, I am a mix of both... a "republicrat" ... I vote my own mind. Besides, there is plenty of ignorance and hypocrisy on both sides, don't you think?

Lawson
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CelticMajic
The answer lies in each of us individually
08:25 PM on 12/14/2010
you too must hire your killing done for you....
10:57 PM on 12/13/2010
Pandora, appropriate name...YOU missed the mark. She used it for entertainment. She's obviously NOT a hunter cuz she kept missing it, but was intent on KILLING IT. I'm sure she doesn't have to do the deed herself in order to eat, therefore, SHE LIKES THE KILL. That is the sick part. She enjoys killing animals. She's a women who claims to be religious, yet she loves to Kill. Thou shall not kill...isn't that one of the commandments? I find it vile and commend Aaron on his brilliant post which I found very enjoyable reading. Your was so abstract that I couldn't get through the first paragraph.
Berettasskeeter
For what we are about to receive, may we be truly
08:58 AM on 12/14/2010
You did not watch the show, did you? And if you did, you probably didn't understand that the scope on her father's rifle had been knocked out of alignment. Once she used the second rifle, she killed the animal!
There is nothing sick in enjoying the kill, or in enjoying the meat. The Commandments have NOTHING to do with animals.
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12:12 AM on 12/15/2010
Alright, so the scope was out of alignment. After she missed, rather than observing that she had missed, and that the scope was out of alignment, she kept blasting away. That's how to make a dirty shot, for the animal to be wounded, run away, and die, slowly.

But as her father said, "he's not going anywhere," after Palin had already entirely missed. Why did he say that? Why wouldn't an animal hearing a loud noise run away?
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SouPro
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09:52 AM on 12/14/2010
And you are so much better for chowing down on a burger from McDonalds? How do you think the meat gets there? Oh you are so moral because you are perfectly fine with eating the meet as long as some dirty underpaid illegal immigrant does the dirty work for you.

Your moral high horse is top heavy.
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09:18 PM on 12/13/2010
Right on.
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CelticMajic
The answer lies in each of us individually
04:54 PM on 12/13/2010
Most Excellent. The obsession with SP on this blog is amazing. You would be hard pressed to find a right wing blog that obsesses over any single progressive. It seems such a waste of time.
04:40 PM on 12/13/2010
great rebuttal Pandora
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12:21 PM on 12/13/2010
Well said. I'm certainly no fan of the former half-term governor. I frankly regard her as mean-spirited, hypocritical and simple-minded and every day it seems that she offers fresh ammunition to her critics who don't need to retreat; they just reload. But let's be fair. Lambasting her for shooting and butchering a caribou which will be eaten is grabbing at straws. As someone who has enjoyed hunting I can appreciate the pleasures of just being out in the woods and it's usually a good day with or without a kill. Couldn't I just enjoy a walk through the woods without a gun? Probably but that's beside the point. Let's keep in mind that for only a relative handful of hunters is it a money saver. For most, it's bloody expensive and it really is just a hobby but the point of Young's article is well taken. Considering how most of us get our meat, it's absurd to criticize a skilled hunter who kills a wild animal with a well aimed bullet to share the meat with his...or her family. It makes more sense to focus or energies on the cruelties practiced in factory farming and the wanton plundering of the world's fisheries.
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09:23 PM on 12/13/2010
A skilled hunter SP is not.
http://www.adn.com/2010/12/11/1599846/always-on-the-hunt-palin-shown.html
Berettasskeeter
For what we are about to receive, may we be truly
09:03 AM on 12/14/2010
Don't take the author of your link at his word. He claims to be a hunter, but could not seem to understand that the riflescope was off. Further, he lambasts her for not sighting in the rifle, forgetting that she was taking her father's word that the rifle was sighted in. It is, after all, her father's rifle, and she trusts his word. Riflescopes can easily be knocked out of alignment!
Your assessment is taken from another, who's assessment is questionable.
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Katmandu01
11:29 AM on 12/14/2010
Thanks. I guess I was speaking hypothetically. With this kind of sloppy hunting skill she perhaps might be vice presidential material after all. Move over Dick.