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Paul Abrams

Paul Abrams

Posted: September 23, 2009 04:22 PM

Baucus Bill Hearings Day 1: Heroes--Cantwell, Kerry, Nelson, Wyden. Grumpy Old Men--Republicans. Goat--Tom Carper.

What's Your Reaction?

Late night owling it on CSPAN, I report some encouraging events in the Senate Finance Committee markup of the Baucus bill that has met with deservedly widespread criticism. If the trend continues, something very good may yet emerge. The following are recounted in alphabetical order:

Senator Maria Cantwell (D-WA) had already convinced Baucus to accept her changes in his "modified mark" that put a stake in the fee-for-service system that provides perverse financial incentives for volume of patients and procedures rather than outcomes. This stems the inexorability of health care cost inflation exceeding the CPI, and thus will have a major impact on improving outcomes and bending the cost curve down.

Senator John Kerry (D-MA)
offered an amendment to reduce the amount of decrease in payments for home health care delivery. The Senator correctly pointed out that home health care is highly desired by the elderly community, improves outcomes and is substantially less expensive than institutional or hospital care. He noted that home health care was taking a larger percentage hit than any other area, and that such priorities were misplaced.

Senator Bill Nelson (D-FLA)
proposed that Medicare part D be permitted to reimburse drug companies at Medicaid rates for seniors who qualify for both programs, approximately 8 million people. He noted that those were the rates that applied prior to the (Republican Congress) outlawing that practice in its Part D plan in 2005, and he was merely suggesting a rollback to the prior practice. This would save the system $86 billion over 10 years that would enable the donut-hole ($2700-$5800 of drug expenses for which seniors pay premiums but receive no benefit) to be filled and still leave a cool $30B to satisfy other needs in the system.

Democrat after Democrat applauded Nelson and requested to be added as co-sponsors. Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY) wondered aloud how anyone could oppose it, and bluntly stated that many in the room had supported provisions to aid one or another interest group, and it was time for the Committee to do something for the American people. For a while, the Republicans just squirmed, although Chuck Grassley, with whom Baucus was "negotiating" for months, blurted several sarcastic remarks.

Enter, Senator Tom Carper (D-Del). He began carping about the 'unfairness' to the pharma industry that had 'negotiated' an $80B deal--although not, Senators Kerry and Schumer pointed out, with Congress, but rather (supposedly) with people in the White House. He suggested that, since drug costs were only 10% of health care expenses, whereas hospital costs were 35%, that hospitals should be contributing 3.5X the amount the drug companies did "in order to be fair." His position was carefully filleted by Senators Kerry and Schumer, who noted that many hospitals are non-profits, some are losing money, and others have very thin profit margins.

While Carper carped, the grumpy old men on the Republican side began to remember their talking points. Only 12% of medicare patients, Grassley harrumphed, were in the donut hole. [neglecting to say is that that is more than 5 million people(!), and how many are not in it because they cannot afford it, and are thus just not taking those medications?]. Probably the most ridiculous argument was that if the pharma companies did not make their $86B over 10 years fleecing poor seniors, they would raise the prices of the drugs for children, as if children were on such drugs as Lipitor®, Rituxan® or Forteo®, or even that most drugs for children are still patent-protected and thus not subject to generic competition.

Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR) denounced the original bill for not providing choice, and pointed out that most versions of the public option are only for those who do not have or lose their insurance. He challenged the committee to open the health care plan available to all Members of Congress and all federal employees, and that thus already operates in every state (because they have federal employees) to the public. This would fulfill, he said, the President's argument that "if it is good enough for Members of Congress, it should be good enough for the American people".

Overall, it was a good opening day. One could measure how good it was by the sour faces and wounded-appearing body language of the Republicans. After their opening statements--spouting the same poppycock that they too were for reform, that malpractice reform would reduce costs substantially (a position refuted by the Congressional Budget Office, in 2004, under a Republican Congress), and that opening competition to insurance across state lines would reduce costs--they were unable to mount any cogent responses to the Democrats' modifications or amendments. As noted in an earlier article, if the Democrats pass a good universal health care bill, Republicans will become politically irrelevant for 2+ generations. ("Permanent Irrelevance: Outcome for Republicans if Dems Pass Universal Health Care Reform", September 9, 2009). Their body language, their harrumphing, and their lack of anything cogent to offer is a harbinger of that status.

Although much of the comments were directed to costs, in fact many of the proposals lowered costs because they improved health outcomes. That is the key to success, and ought to be the focus of the President's messages on health care.

There is a long way to go before the Baucus bill is transformed into real reform that benefits real people. Day 1 was a good start.


 
 
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02:08 PM on 09/26/2009
Great ideas to piece meal into this bill but they are just that, piece meals. If you really want reform and to drive down costs we must extend Medicare for all and take out the insurance corporate industrial complex from the equation. They add nothing to healthcare in this country. They actually create more problems than they help. MEDICARE FOR ALL!
09:20 AM on 09/24/2009
Good news!
07:18 AM on 09/24/2009
Very informative and encouraging - thanks for writing this. I am supporting health care reform at events ( volunteer shifts in informational booths) around my city and this article will help!
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progressivestance84
The Right is Wrong.
12:15 AM on 09/24/2009
Why haven't more people commented on this story? These are some positive developments for the healthcare debate!
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Tim303
12:46 AM on 09/24/2009
Indeed. Copy. I'd prefer a bill that saved one more life than no bill at all.
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2warvet
I have nitrogen narcosis, what's your excuse?
09:45 PM on 09/23/2009
Lets not forget these folks voting against the amendment that would require 72hrs for the senators to read the bill and for the public to review it.

Of course apparently Kerry doesn't read anything because of the arcane language that he doesn't understand.

Way to go dems....Lets rush to get something done cost and outcome be damned
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progressivestance84
The Right is Wrong.
10:07 PM on 09/23/2009
Nobody is rushing to get this done. They have been at it for months. It's time to see some real debate on the house and senate floor so we can see where these senators stand.
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Smithn
~ 13.7 Billion Years:::: i am not. BANG! I am.
12:02 AM on 09/24/2009
Sen. Jay Rockefekker was on the Charlie Rose Show on Sept. 17th (last Thursday). He explained the process of amendments and had his prepared at that time. The process works both sides of the isle....If Grassley didn't prep his side it's only because they wanted to claim rush, rush, rush now after all these months. Come on! get a new complaint!
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OB-GYN
To Your Health, America. Live Long and Prosper!
09:28 PM on 09/23/2009
On Day 2 the majority of the Senate time focused on Medicare Advantage. Hours of discussion of rolling it back as unconstitutional and hurting our seniors, in spite of the fact that general Medicare constituents pay $3.00 per month as an add on fee for those in Medicare Advantage. Not such a good second day.

Where is the discussion on rising costs of procedures and doctors visits? It's not just controlling premiums, it's also about lowering costs.

My dermatologist burnt off a bleeding age spot with some liquid nitrogen last month. It took 1 minute of her time. She made $170, of which I paid $100. I had to have CT and MRI scans last month in followup: total bills from hospital (not reading doctors yet): $7000. My insurer paid $3000. I paid $1400. . This is all in one month, and after family deductible, copays, and premium.

Medical costs are too high. At least I could have these tests: what about the unemployed, uninsured, Cobra relinquished, insurance rejected, Medicaid written off patients who don't get past first to even get to this type of medical care?

How can we get ALL insured, and lower the rates of tests and exams? A Public Option or Universal Care, with our Government directly competing with the Insurers on costs. It's a false start to think otherwise.

Keep putting true health cost control off America and no matter what bill is advanced and signed, we will not succeed.
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Bob Dole-Truthteller of the GOTP
09:55 PM on 09/23/2009
You are right about the Public Option available to everyone. I spent 28 years in health insurance, believe me, nothing but a universal extension of Medicare will control costs. Costs must be controlled by something proven to work-throwing billions at co-ops is reckless.

The Baucus bill is extremely flawed-their are better bills waiting in Congress. This crappy bill will
charge 49-64 yr olds 4x or 5x the amount of premium of a young person. If I to back to work to pay for the insurance, I could have trouble getting a job where my employer pays part of the premium, because premiums for someone my age are so high. I know I can't afford this reform bill. What are these excuses for Senators thinking?
Smokers will pay 50% more-I haven't heard one comment on that-weird, huh?
01:42 AM on 09/24/2009
You do realize this article is about AMENDING the Baucus Bill right?
09:09 PM on 09/23/2009
Nelson is a Republican with a D by his name. His only care is for Seniors. He doesn't care about the youth...just look at his vote on Iraq. He has said he will never support a public option. He only cares about the seniors. Look at it this way...if congress keeps going to war only the youth with die..All he will have left is his constituants...the seniors.
08:59 AM on 09/24/2009
I agree! I have written to him several times and get the same canned responses about seniors and medicare. After all, that is what we progressives must continually struggle against here in FL, the huge voting block of Rep!g retirees who are stuck in the past but have the influence due to their voting record.

I have been telling everyone I know for years, get out and vote. The problem in FL is, if you don't mobilize the Dems, the Rep!gs win easily here, and so we are constantly faced with the choice of "the lesser of two evils." So the watered-down Rep!g has to get my vote until something changes.
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SilviaMaria
09:02 PM on 09/23/2009
We need strict health insurance regulations so they can not rise our premiums wherever they feel like it. This will force insurance companies to negotiate and bargain for better prices with drug makers and hospitals.
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NoSandwiches
08:12 PM on 09/23/2009
that's my senator, Senator Maria Cantwell (D-WA)
what did yours do?
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treetracker
09:34 PM on 09/23/2009
She'd better stick with it on the public option, too, since she wouldn't go for single payer.
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yakmeat
Nearly all of us are both makers and takers.
02:05 AM on 09/24/2009
Unfortunately, mine chaired the committee that wrote this piece of crap legislation.

Let the amendments flow! This bill needs to be amended beyond recognition until it becomes more than a taxpayer hand-out to the insurance industry.
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Dosadi
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07:26 PM on 09/23/2009
Seems like a good start. The committee needs to start including more amendments that make it harder for insurance companies to raise premiums. If enough amendments are included that say the same thing, some are sure to slip by. We need to write our representatives and tell them to back away from the fear of putting these companies out of business. Their time has come and gone. They are no longer needed and cannot complain as they have reaped enormous profit from uncontrolled greed in the last few years. The lie that wall street tells about shareholders demanding higher stock prices must be put to rest. The average stock holder owns these stocks because they are in his/her 401K or pension fund. If they lose value the fund manager will drop these and pick up better investment vehicles. These companies going out of business will not mean the end of the world.
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treetracker
09:49 PM on 09/23/2009
You are absolutely correct - and it's not like the money spent for health care is going to evaporate. It will still be part of the GDP. And any savings realized could be put to better use in growing our economy again. I'd really like to see employers taken out of the equation as well. HR 676 (according to a review done by an economist - I believe it was Dean Baker - determined a family of four could purchase a policy for $2700 vs. the current avg cost of $7600. At $2700, most families could afford their own coverage. Wages could then go up and companies could reinvest what they're now spending for health care.

I am stunned that so few understand that single payer would be the best for everyone.
06:44 PM on 09/23/2009
I'm going to send a thank you note the Dem Senators you told us were demanding real reform. Thanks for letting us know about this.
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Smithn
~ 13.7 Billion Years:::: i am not. BANG! I am.
11:37 PM on 09/23/2009
Great idea--I'll do the same!
06:24 PM on 09/23/2009
For Carper, reform means re-forming the regulations to synch up with the corporate lobbyists' wish lists.
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lgillooly
06:13 PM on 09/23/2009
Glad to hear that, but still nervous. Also, why will it take to 2013 to implement a Public option if it passes in 2009? A lot of people could die in 4 yrs.
06:07 PM on 09/23/2009
I watched it. The Republicans looked like "Night of the Living Dead, Part 26", as usual.
05:41 PM on 09/23/2009
It may have been a good day for some in their sheltered little House on The (capital) Hill. But there will be no more good days for many millions of men, women and children who lay languishing in a hospital bed, hospice, or their own bed at home, waiting to die, because there simply has not been a treatment invented yet to cure them, even if they have insurance
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Tim303
12:49 AM on 09/24/2009
You still seem to be under the impression that Congress needs to figure out how to cure all diseases etc. before they pass a bill. Can you please please try to understand, however contrary to your own beliefs this is, that they are endeavoring to reform health insurance? And that this might be quite a good idea? Okay it's not the Pope showering golden models of naked women studded with diamonds over the entire surface of the Earth.
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yakmeat
Nearly all of us are both makers and takers.
02:08 AM on 09/24/2009
Is His Holiness scheduled to do that anytime soon? Where can I sign up?! ;)