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Biggest Joke From Republican Debate: Romney Threatening Iran

Posted: 11/14/2011 7:39 am

Mitt Romney should quit the act. He is the most effete candidate ever. As phony as a person as he is, he comes across even more ridiculous every time he tries to claim he is tough.

The biggest joke in the Republican 'debate' on foreign policy is that tough-guy Mitt Romney will prevent Iran from acquiring a nuclear bomb. The mullahs must be cowering.

A short litany of Romney's phony toughness:

Challenged about his "lifetime membership" in the NRA, Romney claimed that he occasionally hunted varmints (to hunt anything else, he would need a license -- he never had one!).

Romney escaped the Vietnam War draft because daddy -- the Governor of Michigan -- arranged for him to be exempted as a religious missionary for the Mormon Church. Did he serve in some third world country, bringing god to the poor? Hell no, Willard spent two years dining on escargots and soufflés as a missionary in France

While in France, Mitt claimed a longing to be with his brothers fighting in Vietnam. Oddly, when his French mission was completed and he returned to the US, that longing seemed to have vanished. Well, perhaps not so oddly.

Romney claimed that he was waiting, hoping (dare one say, praying?), to be called, but somehow, dagnabbit, he never received that letter from Uncle Sam. One can only imagine his daily disappointment awaiting that letter that never popped through the mansion's mail slit.

For six years, it just never occurred to macho-Mitt to follow John Kerry's lead and volunteer.

Fast-forward to post-9/11, the Afghanistan War, and then the Bush/Cheney Iraq War. Like father like sons, not a single one of Mitt's 5 sons followed Pat Tillman's example to relinquish their lucrative careers and fight for their country. And, this at the time that their daddy was proclaiming himself even more supportive of Bush/Cheney policies than Bush and Cheney themselves -- close Guantanomo? Willard suggested we double its size. Tough guy, isn't he?

But, even more instructive about Mitt himself, was his knee-jerk response to an Iowa voter who asked him why none of his sons had volunteered. "Thank god we have an all-volunteer army" was Romney's immediate answer that got less press coverage than his next comment that their tooling around Iowa in a Winnebago to support his presidential run was "more patriotic" than volunteering for wars that their daddy claimed to support... i.e., so long as other peoples' children were fighting it.

There may be good reasons to have an all-volunteer army -- to Romney its main benefit is that he could champion wars without any member of his family risking their life or limbs. Romney's position is a very good reason to have a draft -- at least for military age children of high government officials. Let them determine what a great idea a war is if their own children will be fighting it.

And just how is Romney going to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear bomb? Step up sanctions? President Obama has been more successful in getting Russia and China to support sanctions than the neocons with whom Romney is desperately trying to identify himself ever were. And, Obama is psychologically secure enough to have been incredibly tough when required (e.g., getting bin Laden, development of stuxnet virus) without pounding his chest, a much more effective way to attract allies and support.

The biggest risk of Romney as president is that, like George W Bush, he would try to prove "his" toughness by launching a war.

That is no joke.

 

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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Just logic
02:12 PM on 11/16/2011
Wait wait wait. Mr Abrams, The reason his sons are not serving is because if they did who would watch the workers mow the grass and who would collect ids? Afterall, he is running for President for petes sake! Not buying companies and dismantling them for profeit.
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blarneydude
I can handle the truth. Now let's talk about you.
04:48 PM on 11/15/2011
"The biggest risk of Romney as president is that, like George W Bush, he would try to prove "his" toughness by launching a war.

That is no joke."

And even there, tell him there are votes in changing his mind, he's right on it.
01:29 PM on 11/15/2011
You know what's interesting; you are publishing this article about how someone didn't go to war because they had a lucrative career and/or were exploring their religion, yet you sit here publishing this article instead of volunteering to join the military because you have a lucrative career posting stupid articles.

Mitt Romney isn't "less" of a man because he decided to study extremely hard and work extremely hard for himself and his posterity. Even though you probably haven't worked half as hard as him, I feel like you should still understand that rationale.
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blarneydude
I can handle the truth. Now let's talk about you.
04:49 PM on 11/15/2011
Um, next time you post, um, read the article first.

This is about somebody who talks tough, and couldn't make it clearer that he isn't.
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Paul Abrams
01:41 AM on 11/16/2011
Exactly right. In the life of another one of these Republican paragons, it is like Gingrich's being sanctimonious about Clinton's monika lewinsky affair while he was diddling his mistress (now wife #3). Even pathological liars are more genuine than these clowns.
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alimostofi
Astrologer, Commentator
02:47 AM on 11/15/2011
Imagine Romney had used the correct terminology as used by all Iranians, and called them Hezbollahi - which means party of God. Confusing people with the word "Iran" is as disrespectful as any Iranian calling Democrats Republican. Bombing Taliban is ok'd by UN. So UN would ok bombing The Hezbollah Party network sites everywhere, starting with the sites in Lebanon and then the ones in Iran.
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Drumbeato
05:48 PM on 11/14/2011
Romney says if you vote for Obama, Iran will get a nuke. If you vote for him, he will keep them from getting one. Sort of like Cheney saying during the 2008 election that if America elected Obama we would all die. It was BS then, & it still is.
01:06 PM on 11/14/2011
Ooooooh aren't you the big tough Romney hater. Sorry but your anti-Romney squealing doesn't sway this voter, not one iota...actually it just backfired on you. I will be voting for him because A) He is the most Presidential candidate that will bring honor back to the White House, and B) He will win against Obama and make him...and you look like the Freshmen that you are. Oh yes, and most important? He will fix the ecconomy and bring back hope to America...period. The men who served with him on his mission -by the way,where they do not get a choice of where they go- got to know him very very well and they said that "from the first he was a natural born leader, he was the one that made sure the rest of us followed the rules to the letter." He was the strong one. His life has been one of success after success since. I for one will voting for him, and millions of rational conservative folks with me. Good luck studying and working on your rage issues. You are hating the wrong man I think, and for no reason at all.
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Drumbeato
05:56 PM on 11/14/2011
You might want to step back a moment from your Romney worshiping & go talk to people in Massachusetts, where Romney served as Governor. Just go there and ask around what his constituents thought of him as Governor. Of course there will be those who liked him, but you will find most did not. You are only as good as your record, the rhetoric means nothing. Romney's record in Massachusetts was dismal. He was a terrible leader.

Romney claims he is not a politician, and he is an outsider. He has been desperately chasing elected office for the last 17 years. Other than the 4 years from 2003 till 2007 when he was Governor, he has failed in his mission. While I agree that Romney will be the Republican candidate in 2012, He has no chance of getting elected President. But hey, you keep telling yourself he can. Its nice to day dream, even if the dream is an impossible one.
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Paul Abrams
11:02 PM on 11/14/2011
It is odd that you would see Romney that way.
The key point is not that Romney kept himself out of Vietnam, or that none of his sons volunteered for Afghanistan/Iraq, but that in light of all of that, that Romney pretends he is really tough.
08:21 AM on 11/15/2011
No, that is not really any point at all! The economy being in a recession is a real point, and all your article does is attach Mitt and someone not strong..... who cares! Mitt is the only one able to fix REAL "points". He is the only one with a shot against Obama, and he is definitely going to be a better President than Obama. Just so you know, Obama never served in the military either, and he wasn't drafted, so is he just weak too? Seriously, you need to wake up and learn real politics or start writing for the national inquirer.
12:48 PM on 11/15/2011
So what your saying is that because Romney's sons chose not to go to Afghanistan/Iraq that reflects on him not being tough? Come on dude, pull your head out. Your supposed to be a professional. So ask yourself these three questions. Did you yourself fight for our country in Afghanistan/Iraq? Should the fact that you did not reflect on your father? Why didn't you leave your lucrative career to defend our freedom? Men that go to war go because they chose as individual men to go. You are trying to turn the fact that Romney's sons didn't go to war, into an attack on him which is simply put a pathetic attack on the guy. You make his mission sound like a 2 year wine and dine experience instead of a 2 year sacrifice of dedicated church service, which it is (and which the location is not decided by the missionary). I am not a Romney supporter but I do support journalism that is constructive and factually based. This article explains itself in its title: the "biggest joke".
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sillyfrog
Pastafarian and UU student
11:42 AM on 11/14/2011
I wish women had never let men rule the world.
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Lady Saera
Love,love,love is the soul of genius, 'Mozart'
02:30 PM on 11/15/2011
Yes:)... however, when you use the world 'let', it suggests we ever had a chioce.:)
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sillyfrog
Pastafarian and UU student
06:18 PM on 11/15/2011
I think ages ago there was a choice.
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Buckeye54
...the One your mom warned you about!
11:16 AM on 11/14/2011
I just read an article in "Foreign Affairs" about what happened in a war-game scenario wherein Israel attacked Iran's nuclear facilities without any assistance from the US. The Mideast quickly became aflame and it actually strengthened the current regime.

The truth of the matter is this: Iran may eventually produce 1-6 nuclear bombs—but it remains a fact that Israel has over 250 nuclear bombs that it can deliver with precision at any time.

Any nation that attacks Israel with a nuclear weapon would quickly become a molten, smoking desert wilderness.

And Willard Romney's chest-beating is not going to change Iran's direction at all—I'm sure Iran sees it as typical neo-con bravado.

It is somewhat scary though that in the foreign policy debate the Republicans seemed all revved up at the idea of yet another Mideast war.

Of course, like Willard's family, none of their sons & daughters will be enlisting to fight in Iran, will they?
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Paul Abrams
11:03 PM on 11/14/2011
Of course none of them will volunteer. They are the elite. They send other peoples' children to die for them.
01:34 PM on 11/15/2011
Wait, Mr. Abrams... did Obama volunteer? Do you think Obama will send Sasha and Malia in there? Is Obama not elite?
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last boomer
I can no longer shop happily
11:09 AM on 11/14/2011
The problem for Obama with Romney, is not the manikin himself, but the idea he stands for economically. He would truly be the technocrat in chief, occupying the center right the vast majority of suburban Americans inhabit. This highly educated, independent pool of voters are the Swing. They mostly work for private firms, aren't unionized, but still have decent benefits and are upwardly mobile. Provided they have practiced what they preach, ie. financial prudence, they have done well over the last thirty years. But now, they are threatened by the overall instability of sovereign debt crisis. They see governments as the problem, not capitalism. They feel that what is lacking is the disciplined cost control of the private sector and in that vital regard, Mitt Romney is their man.
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NYCIC
Socialism or barbarism
04:57 PM on 11/14/2011
"and in that vital regard, Mitt Romney is their man.”

If they can manage to con themselves into accepting a man who possesses no evident principles.
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Jesster
06:39 PM on 11/14/2011
Romney seems to be one of those guys who - the more you look the less you find there is to see. Aside possessing no evident principles, it's difficult to detect any character, integrity, "people skills" or even personality!

He's also starting to SOUND as looney tunes as the rest of the line up. It's hard to imagine who this guy would appeal to anymore.
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Jesster
06:22 PM on 11/14/2011
"Technocrat" (and mannequin) are an excellent choice of words to describe Mr. Romney...
But the longer he is on display the less substance he seems to have.

The pool of "independent voters" is hardly monolithic in either their principles or their priorities - and the closer you look at Romney the more there is to find fault/flaw with even (or perhaps) especially business acumen and practices.

In his efforts to snag the nomination by appealing to the basest (and most debased) of the GOP/TP he is piling up a landfill of litter and even toxic waste he will have to dig out of and sanitize. He's already in deeper than he thinks.
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AZdesertdog
10:50 AM on 11/14/2011
Romney's quote after the "all volunteer army" one was even better:

"my sons are serving their country by helping me get elected President".
10:40 AM on 11/14/2011
"Daddy" didn't have to arrange a missionary deferment for Mitt. . . I, too, received a missionary deferment at the time because, simply, it was allowed. As for being a "man" and volunteering for the Viet Nam War, only a fool would look back on that tragic period of history and regret not having participated. (See Robert McNamara's account of the decisions involved in the escalation of that conflict.) I count myself not unpatriotic for escaping the battle, but lucky.
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stryker
06:49 PM on 11/14/2011
Yeah, but the repubs, when they had a chance to fight for their country, all passed. Good ol' dick cheney used four of five deferments to get out of serving. Kerry served and got belittled by the repubs who never put on the uniform. Lots of big talk from the gop who don't care which Americans get killed as long it is not their sons and daughters.
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blarneydude
I can handle the truth. Now let's talk about you.
05:04 PM on 11/15/2011
There is a big difference between not wanting to fight and spoiling for one - as long as somebody else does it for you.
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Gestas
Mountain Man
10:35 AM on 11/14/2011
After watching this last Republican Depate, you can bet no one in this world decreased thier Military Budget.
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Pat Bateman2000
GOP - No Fact-Checkers Allowed
09:35 AM on 11/14/2011
This guy has no convictions what so ever. He'd stop Iran? It's all that Republicans have been saying for 10 years and Blue Dog Dems as well. It's a front. It's why we give Israel so much in aid to do our dirty work for us
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greenj76
09:00 AM on 11/14/2011
The ancient Jewish prophets wrote 2500 years ago that God would destroy those Middle East nations that try and eliminate Israel from the face of the earth - that is found in Ezekiel 38 and 39 where both Iran and Pakistan are mentioned in Ezekiel 38:5 as Persia. God told Abraham 4000 years ago in Genesis 12:1-3 that those who bless Israel will be blessed and those who curse Israel will be cursed - that principle is still applicable today. Since the United States is not found in Bible prophecy, one can conclude that America will not be a major factor before the return of Jesus Christ to the earth.
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alafonse
It's definitely a crap-shoot.
10:16 AM on 11/14/2011
Actually, God didn't quite say that about the blessing and cursing, this was the interpretation of Cyrus Scofield, a known felon.
You might gain more understanding here:
http://www.christianzionism.org/BibleSays/Sizer03.pdf
madame48
NO..it's a gop Cookbook !Tempus edax,homo edacior
11:19 AM on 11/14/2011
If Jesus returned to earth, he would be a radical progressive...read his words..starting with "whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers, that you do unto me"...slashing basic survival help for the poor and unemployed? check that gop list
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blarneydude
I can handle the truth. Now let's talk about you.
05:05 PM on 11/15/2011
Fanned. Christ would be Occupying.