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Paul Abrams

Posted: February 5, 2010 04:11 AM

The Simple Way to Pass the Jobs Bill with "Bipartisan" Support

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"Once upon a time, you dressed so fine, threw a bum a dime, didn't you?"--Bob Dylan

A bipartisan jobs bill can be passed, quickly, without any need to talk, plead, cajole or make deals with Republicans or recalcitrant Democrats. That is, if the Democratic leadership had even a scintilla of guile that they have yet to display.

Nearly a year ago James Boyce and I suggested ("Will John Boehner Really Say 'Thanks But No Thanks' To Stimulus Funds?", February 19, 2009) that Republicans in the House who had voted against the stimulus plan be challenged on the House floor to declare whether they wanted any of the money in their districts -- with the Democratic majority willing to support whatever their decision was. It was a way, after the vote, of calling their bluff.

Since that time, as the President pointed out at their conference meeting, the very same people who voted against it, showed up at ribbon cutting ceremonies in their districts basking in the glory of a project and jobs that the stimulus bill had funded.

This time, why wait until after the bill -- bruised, revised and made less effective, begging for votes -- makes it through Congress? Instead, write into the bill that the money for jobs, and the tax credits, everything possible that can be geographically limited, will only be spent in districts whose Members of Congress support it, and only in states where at least one of their Senators voted for it.

Of course there will be wailing and moaning by Members and Senators whose lies and hypocrisy will, finally, be exposed. It will be couched in "buying votes" language.

Really? Senator Richard Shelby (R-AL) has put a hold on all President Obama's appointees unless he gets $45B to projects in his state. Another Republican Senator held up one of the President's nominees until he got money for a building in his state (Kansas). They all put earmarks for their districts and states into bills.

Moreover, the Republicans claim that these jobs bills do not work anyhow. So, one could retort, why the wailing and moaning...according to these people, no jobs are lost since the programs do not work.

With these provisions, the jobs bill can pass quickly -- indeed, the Senate can use reconciliation so there will not even be a filibuster. The wailing and moaning will continue for a week, and then the media will move to another story. In the meantime the jobs bill will pass, and Republicans (and Democrats) who vote against it will have to answer to their states and districts as to why none of the jobs are coming to them.

Or, more likely, "bipartisanship" shall magically flower ahead of the cherry blossoms in Washington D.C.



 
 
 
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01:40 PM on 02/07/2010
awesome concept that will eliminate the hypocracy and blackmailing in the congress and get some work done.
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nofir2
12:35 AM on 02/07/2010
I don’t see why an Op-in, Op-out by state component can not be wrote into such a bill
However, is this a PAYGO bill or is it a deficit bill?
if its deficit bill would all state/persons have to pay down the deficit? Or would states op-out pay nothing?
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Jesster
04:58 PM on 02/06/2010
Paul, in an earlier reply you stated:

"I do not like the idea of "punishing" the people in those districts, but they can make it up by voting the hypocrites out of office."

That's the one problem I have with your otherwise excellent (and simple) idea. However, I think in some states / districts, people need to take responsibility for their votes, their blind allegience to the GOP, and to understand the repercussions of their choices.

They are electing people who claim they believe the stimulus plans, public option etc are BAD POLICIES THAT DON'T WORK. If they honestly believe that they should have no problem turning down or being excluded from receiving government funds. Moreover, these elected officials who supposedly represent their local constituents wishes and well-being should NOT have the right to impose their narrow interests and opinions on the rest of us which is what makes Mr. Abrams idea both compelling and fair.

If local constituencies suffer briefly - perhaps they will learn something. In too many districts (and sometimes entire states) local people LOVE and TAKE PRIDE in their most irresponsible and ignorant representatives: they turn them into local heroes because they like the way they supposedly "kick butt." (I understand Dan Burton is a true hero in his own district.) But maybe people would look a little further and deeper, past the macho/rogue behavior and recognize the CONSEQUENCES of electing these kind of socalled "rogue s & mavericks"....



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Paul Abrams
05:37 AM on 02/07/2010
Or, to take your example, Dan Burton could hear from his constituents that they want him to vote for the bill, and he would--which is the main result this strategy would produce.
11:10 AM on 02/06/2010
Much of this job-loss could be avoided if the inevitable shrinkage of the economy was done with leadership from politicians, economists and media AND cooperation of we-the-people. However one slices the cause of the situation, the bubble burst, because govt. and we-the-people lived / live way beyond our means.

IMO we should have contracted by asking all to share the sacrifice equally. Take a 10% pay-cut along with 10% reduction in cost of goods and services, and 10% cut in taxes. White House provided an example when President and his staff took a pay-freeze on assuming office and on their one year anniversary. Unfortunately there were several examples of workers in public and private sectors refusing this option, including a lot of grumbling from senior citizens for their small increase in SS.

Some may argue rightly, that an across-the-board 10% pay cut penalizes the lower wage workers (and low income retirees). I would be in favor of making some adjustments to these groups. Yet without a consensus, low-wage workers, being the lowest on the totem-pole (because they are newly hired) were the first to loose their jobs.

Where is gain of the proposal? Reduction in cost of living, stems job-losses (saves unemployment checks), gives a bigger bang for retirement income, and America is more competitive across the globe.

But what do I know? Smart minds on blogs and in media blame immigrants for the lay-offs.
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Paul Abrams
02:31 PM on 02/06/2010
You are closer to the truth than you give yourself credit for. You know, of course, the way that what you suggest happens--because debts are too high, and wages will remain too low, then the only way to "pay it all off" is inflation--reduce the value of the dollar, and then the debts are paid in dollars that are worth less.

The problem with this is that it hurts people on fixed incomes and/or kills the deficit because of cost-of-living adjustments.

The alternative is to re-do contracts, e.g., mortgages, so that the principals are reduced and the banks, in exchange, get a percentage of your profit when you sell your home--and, profits becomes possible because the principal was reduced. If owners of commercial real estate also had their principals reduced, then they could reduce the rents for their tenants and fewer businesses would have to close. I made a proposal like this about 16 months ago--at the time, I think, people had the (erroneous) feeling that the situation would turn around more quickly...now, they may be more receptive.
02:02 AM on 02/06/2010
i wonder if they are rushing to get this out so quickly because it has provisions expanding or renewing guest worker programs;. whenever they rush a jobs bill through its so that they can slip stuff in under peoples noses.. like those H1B visa increases that happened almost yearly during the bush years that allowed companies to lay off americans and import cheap indians to replace them in their middle class jobs
06:55 PM on 02/05/2010
Wonderful...finally a way to attach consequences to some of the duplicity and grandstanding.

I wish I could remember the full quotebut it puts me in mind of the wistful thought that it would be a far better world "if only the good could be clever and if the clever would only be good"..... or as an even older injunction would have it..."be as wise as a serpent and as harmless as a dove".....Like how you think, my friend.....I do indeed
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Jesster
03:52 PM on 02/06/2010
Carolina, rest assured that your paraphrase is wonderful too. Your thoughts are wise, and Paul Abrams' solution is brilliant. Yet I think all of our HOPES still remain WISTFUL...

In any and all cases: FANNED!
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lgillooly
06:19 PM on 02/05/2010
Why do we all act as though the GOP gives a hoot about Main St. If any Money goes to small businesses and taxpayers they scream Socialism!! If we were even remotely a socialist couintry I think the 700 billion dollar bail out would have gone to main st...to pay the banks' mortgages and credit cards, but we got zilch...why? We are far closer to a corporatocracy. The GOP is basically big business lobbyists dressed up like politicians. What scares me is that some Democrats seem to be bought also..They need to be smoked out and get back to doing the people's business.
The number 1 obstacle is not the GOP, but the talk radio and fox news big business lobbyists like Hannity, Rush, Levin, Beck etc.. They play a good game of making their audiences think they are one of us, but at the end of every issue they protect the GOP, Big banks, big, oil, Pharma and military profiteers.You don't get $50,000,000 for nothing.
05:51 PM on 02/05/2010
JFK had different ideas about stimulating economic growth. To the Economic Club of New York, he said,:

"But the most direct and significant kind of federal action aiding economic growth is to make possible an increase in private consumption and investment demand — to cut the fetters which hold back private spending. . . .

"The final and best means of strengthening demand among consumers and business is to reduce the burden on private income and the deterrents to private initiative which are imposed by our present tax system. . . . . . . Corporate tax rates must also be cut to increase incentives and the availability of investment capital. . . .

"In short, it is a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high today and tax revenues are too low and the soundest way to raise the revenues in the long run is to cut the rates now. The experience of a number of European countries and Japan have borne this out. This country's own experience with tax reduction in 1954 has borne this out. . . . The purpose of cutting taxes now is not to incur a budget deficit, but to achieve the more prosperous, expanding economy which can bring a budget surplus." (http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/jfkeconomicclubaddress.html)
06:18 PM on 02/05/2010
Very good Mike, thats hard to argue with... Thanks!

Fanned!
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Paul Abrams
09:11 PM on 02/05/2010
Not hard to argue with at all---JFK was looking at tax rates of 90%, not 36% as the top rate. He reduced them to 70%.

Reagan reduced it to 50% then raised taxes every year thereafter until 1986 when tax RATES were reduced to 28% but closed loopholes--and 3 hyears later the economy tanked!

In the end the effect of taxes on increasing or decreasing economic growth is grossly overrated. There is very little evidence that a cut, or increase, in tax rates, except perhaps at the extremes, has any impact on economic growth or decline on its own.
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PenGoddess
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09:57 PM on 02/05/2010
I don't think even Democrats would argue that during normal economic times, this is probably the best route. Unfortunately, we're not in normal economic times - we were and probably still are, on the verge of a depression. Outsourcing jobs overseas, closing down factories or bringing in foreign companies that don't have to pay living wages or benefits, is rapidly flattening the middle class so thin that it has lost its viscosity. Wall Street and the big banks haven't learned that paper credit defaults will not support them; they need real people behind the paper. Without the middle class to purchase goods and services, build houses and pay mortgages, the paper will eventually dry up, too. There won't be any more subprime mortgages to sell between themselves and the system will collapse into the hole they have dug, this time too far to be brought back, I'm afraid. So, it's either pay now or pay later. Increase government spending to get the private sector moving again so the middle class can afford to pay their share and maybe tax rates could be lower for everyone.
03:37 PM on 02/05/2010
Great idea! And I suppose that the only states to pay new a tax increases would be those whose congressmen voted for the tax increases?
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Paul Abrams
04:24 PM on 02/05/2010
unrelated. the stimulus bill is deficit spending. the taxes go to general revenues.

moreover, the point the Republicans make is that the jobs bills don't work, not that they lead to an increased tax. For example, last year's bill had tax cuts for 95% of Americans. And they STILL opposed it, to a person.
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DavidShort
04:40 PM on 02/05/2010
That is exactly the point. Taxes are collected from the 50 states. To tie disbursment to submission to the President's plan is a clear violation of the equal protection clause.

But we have come to expect nothing less than bribery for votes, and punishment for non-compliance. This is the hallmark of the Democrat party. We out here in fly over country, when faced with this in the real world, refer to it as 'thuggery'. In the real world, extortion and blackmail are in fact illegal. But we have seen this as de rigor at the Tyranny on the Patomac.

Before you bring it up, I do know the Republicans do the same thing. So we have, and have had, a government of thugs, using bribery and punishment for fealty. This must stop, regardless of party. We 'hire' Congressmen to represent the districts they are sent from, and this is what we get.

It's a shame we do not more aggressively pursue corruption charges, as well as use the recall process with much more vigor.
02:26 PM on 02/09/2010
Mr. Abrams, your position is nonsensical. While the contention that the stimulus doesn't work is part of the reason Republicans are opposed, there are two other key components which you're ignoring. One, WHERE you spend it is a small part of the problem. The fact that you YOU SPEND MONEY WE DON'T HAVE is the much larger part of the problem. Republicans want to QUIT SPENDING MONEY WE DON'T HAVE. Second, if you want to be fiscally responsible, you have to either cut spending somewhere else or raise taxes. In either case, the money would be far more efficiently used by the people who earn it than by the government.

Another error you make is your statement that the last bill cut taxes for 95% of Americans. Almost 50% of Americans PAY NO TAXES, therefore you cannot "cut their taxes". What you can do and what this administration did was send that 49% a welfare check paid for by the other 51%...or in reality paid it with money from the Chinese which will have to be repaid by our children and grandchildren.

Finally, your response to JShep is laughable. He's using the same loopy logic chain you are.
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Lisa Daily
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05:44 PM on 02/05/2010
I think this is a BRILLIANT idea.

And let's not forget... all those newly-employed Americans will be paying taxes.
03:27 PM on 02/05/2010
Interesting thought. How about we pursue it further and only allow those states that vote for the spending to use only tax dollars generated in their state? In fact, we could push the envelope even more and have a limited amount of funds remitted by each state to be used for federal spending and remaining the tax dollars each state generates gets used as the citizens in that state desire. It would be called a Federal Republic. We could even give it a short but well thought out and drafted constitution. How about it, should we take your good idea and make it better? Or is it only a good idea if it helps in making our political point against the enemy, oops, I mean other political party, even at the expense of the country and constitution?
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DavidShort
04:52 PM on 02/05/2010
I think you may be on to something there. I would back that idea. Where can we get started? Perhaps you have a starting point for this 'revolutionary' idea of yours?
06:23 PM on 02/05/2010
Here's another vote. With NY & Calif's budgets, among others about to collapse in the next 12 months and undoubtedly federal bailout money printed up for them I think it will be prime time to tap into the anger of states that live within their means.
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gutenmorgen
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03:05 PM on 02/05/2010
I am not trained in law, hence I cannot become a Supreme Court Justice but I have no trouble understanding that this hugely irresponsible suggestion is 100% unconstitutional.
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Paul Abrams
04:26 PM on 02/05/2010
Really, on what Constitutional provision does it violate? And, if it does violate a provision, perhaps you can distinguish it from the earmarks (whether you like them or not) with respect to their constitutionality.
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Jesster
08:40 PM on 02/05/2010
I suppose it was Constitutional for the Supreme Court to SELECT a President for us in 2000; or when the Supremes decided that corporations ARE people or at least equal to (or superior to) them (people.)

And what about the new "Super Majority" required for every vote - definitely NOT "Consitutional" ("Extra-Constitutional"?)

Let's be honest here, invoking the rarely actually read Constitution is the Right Wings tactic for tarnishing and then destroying anything that they don't personally like: from gay marriage to voting rights to environmental policy. ANY connection between GOP tactics / beliefs and the Constitution is purely coincidental.

As Paul points out, PLEASE distinguish earmarks from letting those who don't want or believe in "stimulus money" should not be forced to impose such bad policy on their states / districts / constituencies! Especially when they would be so welcome in other states! On the other hands, the hypocritical Grinches should NOT be allowed to impose their ill-will on others - That's why Paul Abram's has come up with the perfect balance / solution.
02:24 PM on 02/05/2010
Mr. Abrams,
What you and John Stewart are equally forgetting, we have a congress and they take votes for a REASON. It is called The Constitution. Democrats just think they can change things in government to suit themselves. I know republicans have done the same thing in the past, but it has to be stopped.
I like Jon Stewart, but there was one statement he made on The Factor the other night that was wrong.
He, like you said the president should just go in and start barking orders. Those who don't like it should get in line.
Regardless of what you want, the republicans want and the democrats want, the bill has to be voted on.
Any senator I vote for better vote with the people of my state in mind or we will vote him out next election.
They are supposed to be representing the people in my state and myself. I don't want to pay for your ear marks, OK?
Laws are difficult to pass for a reason. They are SUPPOSED to be difficult so one party and one man won't be running the show. Most of the country is conservative and we do not like this spending.
Most conservatives feel the first stimulus bill was a colossal waste of money. We also believe the economy would have rebounded without the help of 9000 ear marks.

And if the first stimulus was not a failure, why did they change the name?
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Paul Abrams
04:29 PM on 02/05/2010
I am not sure where I said that someone just barks orders. In this proposal, there would be votes, there must be votes, for exactly the reason you stated--the Constitution requires it.

All I was suggesting is that Members of Congress and Senators "live with" the consequences of their votes--if they think the stimulus is bad and creates no jobs, then they shouldn't have the money coming into their districts. Instead, what they do is attack the President, and then show up at ribbon cutting events for new projects launched by the bill they voted against, and continually attack.
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Jesster
12:33 PM on 02/05/2010
This sounds like a win-win to me. R's should feel free to express their commitment to their "philosophy & values" - "just say NO" in more ways than one!

Finally a brilliant idea! Oh that's right, it didn't come from the D party - it came from out good friend Paul Abrams...

Be prepared for a lot of whining and an avalanche of lame, incendiary and dishonest complaints and accusations. Just ignore them. They don't have a leg to stand on nor anyone to blame but themselves.
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Paul Abrams
01:50 PM on 02/05/2010
Thank you. I think most of the negativity is fear and horror that the expose may actually occur, and they could no longer claim a) it doesn't work; and b) the Democrats are spending wildly.

I do not like the idea of "punishing" the people in those districts, but they can make it up by voting the hypocrites out of office.

By the way, John Kyl (R-AR) had a grand mal seizure last year when Ray LaHood (Sec Trans and a former Republican) suggested that no transportation stimulus money go to ARIZ if Kyl was so negative about it. Kyl went ballistic and the Administration--regrettably--didn't pursue the point.
12:25 PM on 02/05/2010
If Democrats draft the bill, Republicans won't vote for it. If Democrats and Republicans draft the bill, Republicans won't vote for it. If Republicans alone drafted the bill, they still wouldn't vote for their own bill. They will not give Obama any victory of any kind, now that they have 41 votes.
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Paul Abrams
01:53 PM on 02/05/2010
It's a money bill, done under the "reconciliation" process that requires only 50 votes plus the Vice-President, so their 41st vote won't help them on this. That's how Bush passed his taxcuts for the wealthy. That is another reason they will likely vote for it if the carrot-and-stick approach suggested is employed--they can't do anything to stop it.
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gino618
12:05 PM on 02/05/2010
Liberals want a 'jobs bill' where the government gives tax credits / breaks to certain businesses to spur hiring....

Yet when conservatives try and ask for tax credits / breaks go to business to spur hiring... we're told we're elitists and only want tax breaks for the rich and greedy.....

Which is it - do tax incentives work or don't they? You can't have it both ways.
12:45 PM on 02/05/2010
Your oversimplification is liking asking someone why they would oppose personal ownership of M-1 tanks but support rights to handgun ownership - they're both weapons, right???

A: Tax breaks can be SOMEWHAT effective at encouraging job creation when properly targeted to small businesses. They are not as effective as direct spending on needed public projects because they don't create additional aggregate demand to justify employment expansion. Programs like maintainence and efficiency renovation put people to work who previously weren't and thus directly boost consumer spending (increasing the demand for goods and services and thus labor to supply them).

B: It MATTERS who you give tax breaks to, and what conditions have to be fulfilled. Giving tax breaks to large corporations with little/nothing in the way of stipulations that justify them is different than conditional targeted tax breaks for small businesses in return for job creation.
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Where are we going? Why are we in this handbasket?
01:57 PM on 02/05/2010
Brilliant!!! Thank you so much for making these points so beautifully!
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Paul Abrams
02:01 PM on 02/05/2010
If you really want to know, there is a BIG, critical, difference. Republicans (Conservatives, if you prefer that) propose general taxcuts for businesses on the theory/hope/prayer that it will lead to new jobs in the USA. The President's proposal is to provide the credits ONLY when someone in the USA is ACTUALLY HIRED. So, in the Democratic proposal, a job must be created to take advantage of the tax break. The Conservatives provide more money for business to--hire people overseas? pay higher salaries to the top executives? let it sit idle in the corporate coffers?

You may or may not like the targeted nature of the President's proposal, that is up to you of course. But you are in error when you assert they are the same thing, and thus ought to be judged similarly. They are not.

You ask a more profound question at the end--do tax incentives work, or don't they? That requires much more space to address than is allowed. I am going to write an article on that--because there is a great deal of misperception about it on all sides--and I hope you read it and comment.
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06:50 PM on 02/05/2010
That is the best and easiest to understand description of the difference between the Democrat's and Republican's tax cut proposals that I have ever seen. This is just one more example of why I closely follow your blogs on Huffington Post. I only wish simple and direct explanations like this could be seen by the vast majority of conservatives who would never, ever think of visiting Huffington Post. I think there would be much more support for and much less villifying of President Obama and his agenda if more people really understood what he is trying to do. As long as conservatives get their information only from FOX, Rush, Beck and Palin, they will continue to protest the very things that they need the most.