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ATF, Strong Gun Laws Needed to Fight Illegal Guns

Posted: 01/31/11 06:12 PM ET

According to a recent report in the Washington Post, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) could suffer budget cuts of almost 13 percent, which would effectively eliminate Project Gunrunner, a program designed to combat gun-trafficking from the U.S. to Mexico.

Any cuts to the already under-staffed and under-funded ATF would be a setback, but the kinds of cuts that are rumored would be devastating to the ATF's ability to interrupt the flow of illegal guns across America and Mexico. Worst of all, though, would be for the Obama Administration to pursue these cuts without pushing to implement strong, commonsense gun laws, such as those to ban large-capacity , assault weapons, and closing the gun show loophole.

These laws would be more effective and efficient because they offer a pro-active means -- instead of a reactive one -- to stemming the flow of guns to Mexican drug cartels and to criminals and gangs on America's streets. Not having an ATF director in place is also problematic. If we don't get these new laws and the ATF has to absorb substantial cuts, our nation will have effectively surrendered to the purveyors of the most massive gun violence in the U.S. and Mexico.

Paul Helmke is president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. Follow the Brady Campaign on Facebook and Twitter.

(Note to readers: This entry, along with past entries, has been co-posted on The Brady Campaign site.)

 
 
 
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01:31 PM on 02/03/2011
Paul--too bad your goals- of complete civilian disarmament is unConstitutional as is your desire to ban "military style firearms"--AKA every firearm ever made
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Rooster Coburn
Less Gov't + More Responsibility = A Better World
01:46 PM on 02/02/2011
Question:  Are there more illegal guns from the United States in Mexico or are there more illegal aliens from Mexico in the United States do you suppose?
04:43 PM on 02/01/2011
“but the kinds of cuts that are rumored would be devastating to the ATF's ability to interrupt the flow of illegal guns across America and Mexicoâ€... Maybe the Mexican government can start referring to these illegal guns as “undocumented machinery†and then ignore the problem like we do up here.
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08:29 PM on 02/01/2011
That thar is funny.
01:36 PM on 02/01/2011
U.S. Department of Justice Office of the Inspector General Evaluation and Inspections Division
Review of ATF’s Project Gunrunner November 2010

Page 76
"the success rate of Mexican crime gun trace requests has declined since the start of Project Gunrunner. As illustrated in Figure 8, in FY 2005, 44 percent (661 of 1,518) of Mexican crime gun traces were successful. The success rate fell to 27 percent (4,059 of 14,979 in FY 2007 and remained only at 31 percent (6,664 of 21,726) in FY 2009."


According to the Inspector Generals data, during that five year period there were 18,585 successful traces out of 66,028 trace requests. That's a "success" rate of about 28%.


Page 75
"Yet, in a June 2009 report, the GAO estimated that less than a quarter of crime guns transferred to the Mexican Attorney General’s Office in 2008 were submitted to ATF for tracing"


2008 was also the year with the most traces, their best year. Purely for speculation, if we use an average of 25% of all captured guns are traced, that brings the total estimate of captured guns to 264,112. Suggesting a successful "trace to the US rate" of about 7%.



http://www.justice.gov/oig/reports/ATF/e1101.pdf
03:45 PM on 02/01/2011
In other words, the government is actually considering abandoning a program that by their own admission has been costly and ineffective. I am as equally shocked as Paul, knowing such a thing hardly ever happends. But it's not something we should consider negative
01:11 PM on 02/01/2011
It's hard to believe that actually enforcing existing laws would not be enough to cut the flow of guns to criminals. As for Mexico....perhaps they should secure their border.
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blackraisin
Life, Liberty, Property.
01:06 PM on 02/01/2011
Well Paul, perhaps you haven't heard why they are having their funding slashed. ATF has been consciously allowing straw purchases to happen despite being reported by gun shop owners in advance. ATF then allowed many, many guns to go over the border with a wink and a nudge to pad their statistics to get more funding. One of the guns that was virtually walked over the border by ATF, was later used in the murder of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry. Sen. Grassley is calling for an investigation.

Do you really advocate rewarding bad behavior, Paul?

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03:43 PM on 02/01/2011
In Paul's view, the ATF is simply above reproach. As far as I can tell, the Brady Center has never criticized the ATF in any way over thier entire history. They have been totally silent about every negative thing they have done, from less well known abuses against lawful gun owners to more high profile incidents like Ruby Ridge and Waco.

Since the ATF is the sole federal agency dedicated to regulating gun dealers and owners, they have to be depicted as flawless and without fault to promote the Brady Center's agenda. After all, if people know about their less then stellar history, then they might not trust them to enforce the kinds of laws Paul wants implimented.
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01:03 PM on 02/01/2011
Let's see, what has the ATF done? I'm not a fan of the Branch Davidians or the Ruby Ridge people, but they were completely within their legal rights. If the Branch Davidians were to be prosecuted, it should not have been for anything related to firearms, but for David Koresh's sexual activity with underage girls.

Helmke, please explain what an "assault weapon" is. Please explain why a large-capacity magazine makes a weapon more criminal when it just decreases the reliability. Please explain what a vertical foregrip or a pistol grip have to do with criminality. Please explain why you seem to think a semi-automatic weapon is a tool of the devil. Please explain why a .50 caliber hunting rifle would be favorable to criminals when it's just expensive to shoot and impossible to conceal. Please explain what makes large-caliber handguns favorable to criminals when they are expensive to shoot, have extreme recoil, and are meant for hunters and hikers in places with a lot of bears. Please explain your insistence that certain hollow-point bullets are more able to penetrate body armor and have more expansion, as that is impossible. Please explain why the "gun show loophole" is evil, it is just use of a law that allows for a non-retailer to transfer legal ownership of a weapon to another if he/she has no reason to believe that the receiver wouldn't pass a background check.
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Sugarmaker
Act like what you do makes a difference, it does
12:00 PM on 02/01/2011
Groups such as Brady and MAIG see ATF as a means to bypass the legislative process and impose an unpopular gun control agenda. In the eyes of many, this has cost ATF it's credibility as a neutral regulatory agency.
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I just don't know what went wrong!
11:47 AM on 02/01/2011
Worst of all, though, would be for the Obama Administration to pursue these cuts without pushing to implement strong, commonsense gun laws, such as those to ban large-capacity , assault weapons, and closing the gun show loophole.
 No rational justification exists for imposing a ban on popular civilian sporting rifles based solely upon cosmetic features.  The "gun show loophole" has never been meaningfully explained, nor has any means of "closing" this supposed loophole ever been described.
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Jim Pasterczyk
Banned!
03:36 AM on 02/16/2011
Your entire last sentence is false.
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Jim Pasterczyk
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03:36 AM on 02/16/2011
You just don't agree with the answers.
10:39 AM on 02/01/2011
Paul leaves out the very inconvenient fact that "Project Gunrunner" has been criticized BY THE GOVERNMENT as being ineffective!

http://azstarnet.com/news/local/border/article_b429a6cc-f8d0-521a-96f8-80a96f98edc1.html

In other words, the government is considering abandoning a costly program that has shown to be ineffective. I know, it's shocking! It almost never happends. But is doing so really such a bad thing?
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blackraisin
Life, Liberty, Property.
01:07 PM on 02/01/2011
That and ATF has intentionally been "walking" guns over the border to pad statistics. One such gun was used to kill border patrol agent Brian Terry.
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09:47 AM on 02/01/2011
ATF has to trim their budget by 13%? They're lucky. Our "new normal" is the economy in the shape it is in, high unemployment (translation: less income tax revenue), and record levels of national debt. With a Congress that is in less of a mood than ever to allow government to stick to the status quo on taxing and spending, expect government to downsize like the private sector and individual Americans' have done.

ATF will have to prioritize its dollars. That means asking the hard question on each dollar, "Is this dollar going to something effective or not?" The gun control lobby fears such questions because they know gun control measures are at the bottom of the scale of effectiveness.

Paul is concerned, for good reason.
03:32 AM on 02/01/2011
People feel much better when shot with a legal gun.illegal bullets go to deep so we need to keep them legal to.
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OdinsEye
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01:07 AM on 02/01/2011
Some of the cuts to the BATFE budget are due to duplication of effort between the BATFE and the FBI. Others are due to the BATFE's law enforcement powers being moved from under the Treasury Dept over to the Justice Dept. If the BATFE simply focuses on its core responsibilities and doesn't continually try to take over from other departments and organizations, then it may not be as cash strapped as they claim. That includes stopping efforts to give eTrace access to every country on earth.
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OdinsEye
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12:49 AM on 02/01/2011
Would Paul please define an "illegal gun"?

BTW, I have contacted the authors of the referenced WaPo article about several errors in that piece. WaPo is also extremely anti-gun.
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11:14 PM on 01/31/2011
"Worst of all, though, would be for the Obama Administration to pursue these cuts without pushing to implement strong, commonsense gun laws, such as those to ban large-capacity , assault weapons, and closing the gun show loophole."

Yes! Apart from the debate surrounding what "assault" means and the "loophole" that is legal transactions between citizens, it is CLEAR that large-capacity needs to be banned!

Large-capacity . . . airplanes, large-capacity . . . movie theaters, large-capacity . . . WHATEVER!

LARGE-CAPACITY MUST BE BANNED! Or you will die! And thirty-something other Americans will die today too . . . and . . . and . . . and the children! Think of the children and the threat of large-capacity to their futures as well!
02:40 PM on 02/03/2011
DM--you would think that Helmke would have learned by now that most Brady defined "assault weapons" are protected by the common use standard of Heller