I am not watching anymore war shows on The History Channel or any other channel until after George "Water-Board" Bush and Dick "The Animal" Cheney are safely back in their holes and out of The White House. They wrecked it. Water-Boarding?! How am I supposed to feel superior to the Germans and the Japanese?! After all, water-boarding is just a gateway drug. What's next? What else will become acceptable? It is a slippery slope. Bottom line: We don't torture! Did Audie Murphy ever water-board a guy? No way!
Oh well, since it's okay to torture people allow me to torture you
with a little song called "Water-Board! Water-Board!" Open up your
windows and sing along!
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Jerry's Rules for Torture:
1) If the person being tortured dies, the torturer goes to jail for life. The purpose of torture is to obtain information with which to save lives, not to kill people in a cruel and inhumane fashion.
2) If the person being tortured either
a) Does not give up the desired information
b) Gives up information which later turns out
out to have been "made up" in order to end
the torture, or
c) Is unable or remains unwilling to give up
any information useful in
preventing the deaths of Americans,
demonstrating ONCE AGAIN that torture does
not work, then:
3) The roles get reversed. The person being tortured can now inflict the same torture on his or her tormenters (or any family member) or have them incarcerated at Gitmo for as long as they please.
If some terrorist was truly believed to knew where an A-bomb was hidden in NYC, a few gung-ho Blackwater/CIA/FBI agents might be willing to accept these conditions.
For the petty shit for which America is now willing to torture "enemy combatants," probably, not so much.
11/11/07
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11:01am
Burlington, VT
Has the waterboarding ever produced information which was useful in preventing a terrorist attack or tracking down terrorists
If I were being tortured I would say ANYTHING to make it stop--like everybody else.
Paul ... you're a sick puppy and we love yah ...
Great song mister man. I'll bet if we make the bad guys stand in a stress position and listen to it for a week straight they'd admit that water boarding is torture!
Torture is torture!
Funny, but from what I've heard, the Greatest Generation did their share of extracurricular horrifics they only own up to among themselves, i.e. killing of POWs, civilians, and such-don't know about torture but I expect that wasn't something new in the millenium-and considering what's come out about Korea and 'Nam, I think our history teachers could have worked for the Propaganda Ministry for all the truth they let onto.
We know the terrorists are a bunch of bad guys who will sacrifice life and limb for their cause.
Does this give us the right to get down in the gutter and wallow around with them? I think not.
What's next: Televised beheadings of American dissidents by Blackwater?
Sign up a short letter to Congress:
Dear Senators and Representatives, given that the proposed Attorney General and the president do not believe waterboarding is torture, please have them demonstrate at a public hearing that is not.
In addition, have them disrobed, bring vicious dogs and under extreme cold and heated conditions ask them in a scale of 1 to 10 if that is humane and lawful treatment.
The world is bad. How do we make it better? We act bad. USA USA USA !!!
Michael Mukasey doesn't know if waterboarding is terrorism? Waterboard him. Perhaps THEN he will get it!
Stay safe, healthy and happy,
Love, Loretta
Actually we did much worse in WWII and then we were fighting people who at least represented nations and wore uniforms.
The truth shall set you free.
Can you imagine an American's view of America who got teleported from 2000 to 2007?
American government condoning torture. I mean can you even imagine the topic of should America be water-boarding anyone even being discussed in 2000.
American government with congressional approval spying on American citizens.
America kidnapping people and sending them to countries where they can be held for an indefinite period of time without charges, access to council or communications with anyone, and tortured.
Blatant Race Baiting in Senatorial election ads.
President and administration caught spreading lies in the press and still doing it.
President outing a CIA agent for political payback.
Unnecessary and lost war for oil.
Record Surplus turned to record deficit.
The list goes on and on.
The America in 2006 is unrecognizable from the America in 2000.
Any American teleported from 2000 to 2006 would also not want to accept what has happened to America, and nor should we.
I find it laughable that Schummer and his colleagues would even asked the question of Waterboarding. Congress and the Senate make the laws not judges (which some in the Democratic Party want them to do). No matter what Mukasey's thoughts on waterboarding are it is the Congress and Senate that have to pass laws making waterboarding an illegal interrogation tool not the Attorney General. His job is to uphold the laws given him by the Senate and Congress which are approved, in some cases, or disapproved by the Supreme Court.
What is an acceptable part of interrogation to liberals when faced with evil criminals bent on your destruction? Can you make terrorists feel uncomfortable? Can you scare them? Because honestly I'm beginning to believe that many of you on this blog think that A. No one is really a terrorist, just an abused misunderstood rebel that evil Bush and Cheney are picking on and B. Even if they are bad, no amount of evil they have done or intend on doing warrants any effort to make them uncomfortable. During waterboarding these guys are never in danger, they just THINK they are. BIG DIFFERENCE FROM THE GERMANS, AND OUR ENEMIES NOW...Does anyone here get that? Under Saddam Hussein enemies of the state had acid poured on them, internal organs cut out, etc etc. Does anyone here see the difference between that and being really really scared?
Last night while listening to Wolf Blitzer during dinner, I had just decided to turn it off and put on the radio, when my husband abruptly told me to shut that shit off. Wolf was discussing waterboarding with his guest. They were discussing the issue as though it were not a crime. Wolf asked his guest if he felt you would get credible evidence for waterboarding?
My husband went into a tirade, why are they even discussing the issue, it is and always has been torture. My husband said, if the interigator felt it would save America and crossed the line with torture, he should be willing to take the hit for his actions. It should not be done with no consequences and the one that chooses to do it should know his job and freedom is on the line, it better be worth it to him. It should never be done without challenge to The Rule of Law. It may happen, but the person who chooses to do it should be held accountable. It would not be common practice if they had to defend their actions.
I turned off the TV and we listened to the radio and I waited for Keith Olberman before turning the TV back on. Keith Olberman really addressed the issue well.
Americans should not be missled. Just because mainstream media discusses it casually, it is still a crime. It is against the Geneva Convention and the Rule of Law.
GREAT SONG, PAUL!
Have 100 people stand outside the White House singing it. Get it on the 6 o'clock news! (on FOX, ha!)
DO IT! FANTASTIC! GREAT CREATIVE WORK, PAUL!
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