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LGBT Rights -- Getting On The Right Side of History

Posted: 05/08/2012 1:02 pm

There is a right and wrong side of history in the struggle for full and absolute equality for LGBT people.

All signs indicate that America is in the last decades of the misguided and hurtful effort to treat lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered people as second class citizens. And, if history is any guide, a few decades after that the "mea culpa" and formal apologies will come.

We have seen this cycle of oppression and repentance before. Consider the great scourges of anti-Semitism, support of the institution of slavery and violence against indigenous and native peoples. Self-righteous people used selective scripture and "rational" thought to support theologies and world-views that dehumanized Jews, Africans and Native peoples and led to genocidal policies against these groups.

Then decades, and even centuries later, in dramatic examples of "far too little, far to late" the apologies came from church leaders and politicians.

We are in the middle of that oppression-repentance cycle currently with the willful maltreatment of the LGBT communities.

A vivid religious example is the United Methodist Church, which recently reaffirmed the idea that homosexuality is incompatible with Christian teaching. They did this while formally apologizing for the denomination's support of segregation and the oppression of native peoples in the past. Oh, the irony!

At the same time the Methodists throw one group under the bus, they extend a hand towards the groups that still have tire tracks on their backs. Of course, we know what comes next. In a few more decades, the Methodists will be having rituals of repentance for how they treated LGBT people.

Here's an idea. Why don't we just skip the "more oppression" part and move straight to the reconciliation and full communion? Saying that gay people can't be Christian (or really anything we want to be) isn't going to work much longer anyway.

People aren't buying the anti-gay rhetoric any more and the younger the person; the more likely they are to support full equality of gay and lesbian people. The problem with the anti-gay position is that people actually know gay people and recognize the fully humanity in their friend, brother, sister, mother, cousin and co-worker. Straight people aren't going to listen to anti-gay lies for much longer.

And now that LGBT people have tasted a tiny bit of what it means to be recognized as a full human being, we will never go back. No matter how much the preacher rails or the psychologist explains, LGBT people today will refuse to be described as sick or sinners because of our sexual or gender orientation. The more any LGBT person understands deep in their soul that they are wonderfully and beautifully made; the more untenable it will be for them to accept people preaching or teaching against them.

Once a soul and mind are freed, they can never be caged, or put back into the closet again.

Progress happens when people have faith that a better world is possible and are willing to work for it. The world is becoming more and more convinced that LGBT peoples must be acknowledged and admitted into full communion with the rest of humanity, and more and more people of all background are joining the struggle.

There is a right and wrong side of history for the struggle for full equality of LGBT peoples. The arc of the universe is bending towards justice for LGBT peoples. Those people who maintain anti-LGBT positions are going to be caught behind the curve.

And if history has taught us anything, those people who are so against gay people today will show up with their hats in their hands, repentant and asking for forgiveness for their sins.

But why wait? Get on the right side of history -- today.

 
 
 

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12:14 PM on 05/25/2012
We are not all GOD's children even though we are all GOD's creation. Scripture teaches that GOD hates the wicked, but loves the elect. Scripture teaches that GOD so loved the world that He gave His only Son Jesus Christ to die in behalf of those who would believe, and also that GOD would condemn to an eternal HELL those who don't believe. God does not accept a person on the terms set by this person. But rather this person must accept the terms of which GOD has determined one must come to Him on. These terms are found in the Bible.

Belief in Christ.
Repentance of and turning away from the sins which GOD hates.
Trusting in Christ to accomplish the work of regeneration in the life of one called by GOD to eternal life.

One cannot be Christian and continue to live the sinful character which Scripture teaches is an offense to GOD. Matters not the sin, one must change to be accepted by GOD.
06:59 PM on 05/19/2012
There is a right and wrong side of history in the struggle for full and absolute equality for LGBT people.
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LGBT have equality they want special rights, inequality and they seek to force their deviant religious views on society in order to gain acceptance that will never come.
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lucem sequimur
01:34 PM on 05/23/2012
What special rights do you think they want?
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just a voice here
Just because...
12:59 PM on 05/24/2012
Try educating yourself before asking stupid questions. Everybody here knows the answer to that question.
06:34 PM on 05/19/2012
LGBT Rights -- Getting On The Right Side of History
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LGBT sodomy and homosexuality were illegal for the past 300years until the Liberal sexual revolution of the 1970's. History is on the side of morality and heterosexuality. Sexual homosexual preference is not a right.
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Macklyn
Peace y'all
03:33 PM on 05/18/2012
I'm so proud of UUs. They are what church ought to be.
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just a voice here
Just because...
04:54 PM on 05/19/2012
This church you talk about, what is it that you want it to be?

Aren't you people the ones full of hate and anger? That's all we need now, more hate and anger. Maybe you and the church should try practicing forgiving each others instead of attacking each others.

Try showing people that you are the better people. All I see here is that gays attacking anybody that doesn't agree with them. You are no better than the church you fight against.
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Macklyn
Peace y'all
07:32 AM on 05/20/2012
Do you knoe anything about Unitarain Universalists?  They welcome all and have no dogma.  I think you've seriously missed the mark here.
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Macklyn
Peace y'all
07:33 AM on 05/20/2012
*know
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iknowscottyknows
08:39 PM on 05/17/2012
I am on the side of him who created history.
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Macklyn
Peace y'all
03:32 PM on 05/18/2012
so you are on the side of the winners?
06:35 PM on 05/19/2012
Yes, Christians!
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electricxebra
Research The TRUTH!
01:35 AM on 05/17/2012
Christians, Catholic, Ect... believe that the Bible is the infallible word of God. THIS IS NOT TRUE! ( http://godisimaginary.com/i1.htm ) Believers teach and would have us believe that the U.S. Constitution was based on the rules of the Bible. THIS IS NOT TRUE! ( http://freethought.mbdojo.com/foundingfathers.html )

The Bible approved of slavery, ge­nocide, stealing from other races,rape of women of other races , and also of killing people for adultery and of killing people for worshiping differentl­y than the true Faith.
The Constituti­on introduced the idea that all people are created equal,and are endowed with the inalienabl­e right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. It does not say that this pursuit can only be achieved by following the Christian religion. ( http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution.html )

C­ongress shall make no law regarding religion was included for two reasons.It was included so that the Government could not force anyone to believe or worship, or not to believe or worship in any specific way.
The Bible is against this idea. The laws we have in free societies today are much more civilized and much better than the laws of the Bible.

The Bible is an out of date book with out of date rules and anyone that follows it is stuck in a time warp. ( http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-bible-is-fiction-a-collection-of-evidence )
07:49 PM on 05/17/2012
This is just an opinion that you agree with, and you are using biased non-credible references.
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electricxebra
Research The TRUTH!
09:36 PM on 05/17/2012
No, This is from almost 40 years of study and research on the Bible and reading and writing in Hebrew and Greek...

http://www.godisimaginary.com/
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FreedToChoose
...lest my wife says I'm not.
07:38 PM on 05/16/2012
As the saying goes, "You don't know what living is until you get married... then it's too late."
or
"A bachelor is someone who never made the same mistake once."
or a million others I'm sure.

Still, I've been married more than a half century and love it, although my wife may ave some unvoiced doubts.

we attend a small UU church with many LGBTQ members, some single, some married. If no one said, you wouldn't know who is who. That's all the evidence I need to 'know' my childhood homophobia was an ignorance I outgrew.
03:37 PM on 05/16/2012
We should just ignore all the people that refuse to get on the right side of history. Evolution says they are going to die anyway. (aka the weak) They don't want to progress with the rest of us then so be it.
07:53 PM on 05/17/2012
The right side of history will be determined when God judges mankind.
That will be progress to the utmost.
Sadly, many will be sent to hell by their own choice.
11:06 PM on 05/17/2012
Irrelevant.
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Just because...
05:07 PM on 05/19/2012
Why don't we just ignore the minority instead? Who's gonna miss them?
11:10 PM on 05/19/2012
Your argument is irrelevant. What does that have to do with evolution or progress.
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Bob Wood
A.T.C.G...(sigh)
08:07 PM on 05/15/2012
My wife and I have been happily married for 31 years. If a same-sex couple wishes to join their lives together for better or worse...why should they not be allowed to do so ? How does their doing so in any way diminish or threaten our marriage ?
Millions of our fellow human beings...relatives, neighbors, co-workers, and friends will benefit. No one else is harmed. How, pray tell, is that not the right thing to do ?
This is a no brainer...(sigh)
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Cye
09:20 AM on 05/16/2012
Yes, those arguing against gay marriage can never seem to articulate how allowing gays to marry is going destroy either the institution of marriage itself, or their own marriages. When you press them on the issue, they tend to get vague.
07:59 PM on 05/17/2012
If you want an educated arguement, check out the book "Family and Civilization" by Carle Zimmerman, Sociology Professor at Harvard Univ.. Professors Zimmermans book is the Gold Standard on the topic. In his book it says that Homosexuality and Atheism both contribute to the downfall of a civilization. (Mankinds evidence)
You could read the Bible. (God's evidence)
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06:53 PM on 05/14/2012
Please tell me what Jesus and the Ten Commandments had to say about homsexuality.
01:34 AM on 05/15/2012
There is more scripture in the Bible than the Ten Commandments and the 4 Gospels that talk about the life of Jesus. There is Biblical text that clearly speaks against homosexuality. Yes Jesus loved everyone not their behaviors. When He hung on the cross, He said forgive them Father for they know not what they do. Jesus does not hate homosexuals. Jesus came to preach and teach the love of God and to help us understand that God loves us despite of our behaviors. That is called unconditional love which is what Jesus practices. The Bible is not homophobic because it speaks against the lifestyle. Those who practice homophobia in the name of the Bible are not practicing Christian love because you hate the son not the person.
01:57 AM on 05/15/2012
Typo - because you hate the sin not the person.
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10:44 AM on 05/15/2012
Then explain why so many "god worshipping" people are so hateful and two faced. It seems that hose of you who follow the bible pick only certain passages to live by.
12:22 AM on 05/17/2012
Who cares?
01:20 PM on 05/14/2012
I worked as a cop in Ca. and I saw w/my own eyes how the gay community came together and cleaned up a whole section of a cesspool city. The police calls for service in that area plummeted to all-time lows. Businesses that sat vacant w/broken glass and "crack vials" cleaned up and jobs created. Latest stats show that gay couples stay together longer, are more monogamous than "straight" couples and have a lower instance of domestic violence.
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01:03 AM on 05/15/2012
You also forget to tell us that rates of depression, anxiety, obsessive compulsive disorder, phobia, self-harm, suicidal thoughts, and alcohol and drug dependence are significantly higher in homosexuals.
01:19 PM on 05/15/2012
I know those numbers are skewed as sure as I am rocking Boston (the band not some techno-hop) right now. It isn't that the 'homose..'s' having a higher propensity for these things. It is because they are more in touch w/their own being and living their life's as they see fit. They are on the same journey as you "Hi I'm Barry the heterosexual" And "IF" they do exhibit those ailments it is because of folks' that have their own head's shoved so far up their own asses that it is indeed prolapsed
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Cye
08:17 AM on 05/16/2012
That fact is misleading if you don't also look at the underlying causes of this depression, anxiety, etc. It highly unlike that merely being gay is the cause.

It hazard a guess and say that a great deal of this depression and drug dependency, etc., has to do with the treatment of gays by society in general, their own families and religious organisations which spend an inordinate amount of time calling them sinful and demonizing them as a threat to (1) marriage; (2) society; (3) the continuing existence of the human race.

You only have to browse online sites such as this to see the outpouring of ignorance, invective, spike, hatred, discrimination and willful misinformation about and towards gay people.

A person who know gay people, many of their "issues" come from these factors, and not the mere fact that they are gay.
08:04 PM on 05/17/2012
You can call evil good if you want, the Bible predicts that.
10:08 AM on 05/19/2012
and who wrote the Bible? When exactly did the quorum get together to write the "rule book"? Won't it be ironic when you get to Heaven, I mean you have prayed like Hell haven't you? and you see all the queers and blacks or whichever group y'all are hating on this week... When you find out He is a She and She knows while you spouted lines like Bill Shakespeare from said rule book, in King's English no less, you did so while hating your neighbor. You are looking for horns and breathing fire. My way precedes "The Bible" some 500 years. It was The Way when Jesus was submitting "low bids" all through Jerusalem... Your way one needs to die before going to Heaven.. and there are shepards in December in that part of the world too right? You wouldn't know "The Truth" any day... Time for a new name. May I suggest "OpenForSuggestion" Don't worry my God is so bitchin' even You get to go.. But if you don't learn "The Truth" that is more time you'll have to spend "learning the rules" when you get there.
01:08 PM on 05/14/2012
Namaste Paul- Do you think some of the problem lies with some of these folks' sense of history is only 2012 years? Can you also explain to WhiteyRighty that the Muslim is praying to the same God? as it was Hafiz who said "Would you think it odd?"

Would you think it odd if Hafiz said,
"I am in Love with every church
and mosque
and temple
and any kind of shrine
Because I know it is there
That people say the different names
Of the one God."

It is also been written that if you cannot remember history you are deemed to repeat it.. Or doomed either/or. Personally I hope the LGBT community end up running all of it.
03:21 PM on 05/14/2012
The Muslims are most certainly not praying to the same God.

"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." (John 14:6)

Furthermore, Christ is the fulfillment of God's Law. Islam adds laws in the old testament style.

In other words, a Christian must view Islam is being false.

There are well meaning Muslims. And it may be that God will accept them; that is for God to decide. But the God they call out to is not the God of Abraham.
04:47 PM on 05/14/2012
I am paraphrasing here now so please bear with me.. "Thank God" I'm not a Christian. My beliefs predate yours by 100's of years. When mine was written, Jesus hadn't started submitting low bids (Jewish Carpenter gag.. Used to kill in the Catskills)  When was the last time you spoke to a Muslim? And tell the truth or YOUR God will know. See My God will accept me no matter what. My God trusts Me so doesn't provide a "Rule Book" provided by TheGideons®LLC. My Church has no defense fund for abusing children.
I do know Your "Rule Book" I can't provide the JimNasium 14.6 like you but see if I get this right... "Lying lips are abominable to the Lord those that deal truly is his delight"
06:40 PM on 05/14/2012
Jews, Christians, and Muslms all worship the God of Abraham. That's just simple history. They certainly believe different things about him, but it's the same god.
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05:00 AM on 05/14/2012
The church doesn't own marriage despite what they think to the contrary. Their role is relatively recent in terms of human history as well as isolated to certain cultures. Even within "Christendom" church marriages are not uniformly recognised. Many countries, including most of Europe, do not legally recognise church marriages. In those countries, the happy couple get married at the town hall and, if they so wish, get "married" again in a church. But the church wedding has no legal effect.

So why not do the same America and turn marriage over to the civil authorities? Churches, should they wish, can carry on as they do in Europe. They can even call the thing they do something else in order to maintain the holiness of the sacrament, or whatever their concern is. Then, the rest of us can celebrate love without the stench of religious self-righteousness and condemnation.
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11:08 AM on 05/14/2012
It is already done that way...the power of the state is invoked in the religous ceremony. The clergy acting on behalf of the state is sanctioning the union.
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Paul Robertson
05:01 PM on 05/14/2012
"The clergy acting on behalf of the state is sanctioning the union."
That's the bit that I'm suggesting doing away with. If the clergy are no longer permitted to invoke the power of the state, then it strips one more plank from their argument. Also, it would most likely annoy them, which I would enjoy.
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Timothy Ilg
10:10 PM on 05/13/2012
You know, for a theologist, you have a pretty misinformed idea of what communion means. Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with homosexuality per se. However, I am certain that some misguided homosexual will attempt to force a church to conduct a marriage service in violation of their beliefs and that will simply be unacceptable. Either you have a separation of church and state or you don't. You cannot have it both ways. If you want full civil rights, then have marriage defined as a legal proposition instead of moral one. Or come up with a new term.
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10:35 PM on 05/13/2012
right.......whatever ....you hysteria is noted......and is NOT original....again, for the SLOW...churches today dont have to marry whomever they dont want too......including hetero cpls.........no gay cpl wants to marry in your hate religion.........and 10's of 1000's of gay cpls ARE MARRIED NOW in America
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Paul Robertson
05:03 AM on 05/14/2012
"If you want full civil rights, then have marriage defined as a legal proposition instead of moral one."
It is. Does that mean you and your church will go away now?
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11:17 AM on 05/14/2012
It is defined that way. Certificates of marriage and marriage licences are registered with the state not the church. The church certainly has not been a moral beacon of light. We can only hope the church will return to where it belongs....we have become more educated something the church has opposed for 1500 years, education has led to enlightenment. The church in its wisdom has sought to deprive education and to use the word as a means to subjugate its followers.