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What Does Wall Street Really Want?

Posted: 10/12/11 11:48 AM ET

What does Occupy Wall Street want? This has been the continual question from the media, and the critique from skeptics. The question "what do they want?" has been used to dismiss the nascent Occupy Wall Street movement as ineffectual, aimless, or worse, a self indulgent spectacle.

Still, the question is legitimate; and as Occupy Wall Street continues, it will be come crucial. Asking what someone, or a group of people, wants is not really a question directed at policy or electoral politics, which seems to be the answer that outsiders are looking for. Rather, asking what someone wants tends go deeper into questions of vocation and underlying morality or principles that people are willing to commit their lives to and sacrifice for.

As the weather gets colder and occupying gets harder, and the media gets bored and turns away, the question of what those involved with Occupy Wall Street want will become very important. What kind of justice are they seeking for the 99 percent, and what kind of ethics will guide their actions to get it.

But this question begs another that nobody seems to be asking, which is:

What does Wall Street want?

Occupy Wall Street has turned the spotlight in the general vicinity of Wall Street, but unfortunately it has yet to force Wall Street to articulate its own reason for existence. And that is where our attention should be focused now. How do individuals on Wall Street, or Wall Street as a whole, answer the questions concerning vocation and underlying morality and principles? It comes down to the question: What moves Wall Street?

And the obvious, sad, simple answer is: money. More specifically, what moves Wall Street, and what Wall Street wants is not money for the middle class of America, and certainly not money for the poor of America -- what moves Wall Street is money for themselves.

And this seems to me to be the problem. Most of us still are happy that we live in a capitalistic system, especially those of us who value freedom not guaranteed under the experiments with socialism we saw in the 20th century. A capitalistic system requires something like a Wall Street to exist. Yet, for a capitalistic system to work for all of society, we need a Wall Street that has what Cornel West calls "moral maturity."

Moral maturity seems sorely lacking in Wall Street, largely in part because Wall Street does not understand its role in America and the world's economy in a mature way. In 2009 I gave a talk on the Morality of Capitalism at the Chautauqua Institution in which I critiqued Wall Street for the 2008 financial meltdown. After the talk, a gentleman approached me from the Cato institute, who apparently was a spokes person for Wall Street and capitalism as a whole. He claimed that the financial problems were not Wall Street's fault, but just "happened" and that it was not fair to blame the financial industry.

But Wall Street is responsible for what happens to the financial well-being of America. We have entrusted them with our economy, but they seem unwilling to truly grasp what that really means. Economy, like the terms ecology and ecumenism, has the root word oikos, a Greek word that translates as family or house. Any economic system should be judged on its ability to provide for the needs of the human family it serves. An economy should also have a sense of purpose in which success should be understood by its ability to provide for the entire family. And this is the vocation that Wall Street seems intentionally unwilling to claim. Instead, they settle for a small goal of making the most money they can for themselves in an atmosphere that most closely resembles the morality of the Lord of the Flies.

The fact that the financial industry continues to give enormous bonuses to its employees while Americans are hurting in so many ways shows that Wall Street does not care about the 99 percent of America, it cares about the 1 percent, which they themselves represent. For a vivid example of this, look to the Chicago financier who tossed out hundreds of pieces of paper with the proud message: "We Are the 1%."

All of this is lamentable. Having worked at Princeton University for the last eight years, I know that some of the smartest, and well-intentioned students I worked with are now working on Wall Street. They are very smart, and very good people. Occupy Wall Street should inspire my students and all of those who work in the financial industry to really reflect on what they want.

Wall Street, are you willing to tie your bonuses to the well-being of the overall economy and not just the privatized bottom-line? What morals will guide the way you do your work? Will you sacrifice the quick buck to build an economy that will last and grow? Is it really your vocation to make so much for yourselves when so many people are hurting so much?

What do you really want, Wall Street?

 
 
 

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10:28 AM on 11/20/2011
I become so frustrated reading the same and frankly short sighted understanding of what has given birth to the Occupy Wall Street movement. It is not capitalism, there is nothing wrong with making money but there is a lot wrong with stealing money with impunity and that has been core of the frustration and anger that has spurred thousands to take to the streets and tens of thousands to speak out on the web. More Occupy Wall Street activists have been jailed than have corrupt financial services workers who created fraudulent mortgages and then bet against them which was just the tip of the corruption revealed in 2008.

Countless Americans have lost their homes, their jobs, their savings, their health insurance and their faith in the representatives they elected to speak for them. And the mainstream media and cable talking heads keep rolling their eyes and casting this very important social movement as a bunch of drum playing hippies - nothing could be further from the reality. Occupy Wall Street is populated by veterans, teachers, union workers and the steady middle class heartbeat of our country, all of which who have denied access to the fundamental resources we all need in a civilized society.

Please stop asking the same question about Wall Street's moral motives, we have seen their morality, it is to enrich themselves at peril of the middle class. Start asking where are the legal authorities in our country who have been charged with keeping law and order.
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Deborah J Boyd
organizational architect
04:04 AM on 11/13/2011
Capitalism is not the enemy. Greed and Destruction are addictions and some of the people in world business today are addicted to the money and will do anything to get it. So who is making money without greed? LinkedIn, Twitter, Facebook, Google. Do you really understand that Google makes so much money because they were first with a good search engine and sold it to businesses before most of those businesses had a clue of what the Internet was and how to use it. Religion is no different than politics is no different than business. All are an organization that collectively produce more wealth than the individuals would alone.
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thorrsman
Why should I define myself by quoting others?
11:54 PM on 10/14/2011
"Wall Street" wants nothing. As a reality, it is a location, nothing more. As a concept, it is nebulous, having a definition that changes depending on who is asked and what they believe "at the time". Wall Street appears to refer to the banking and investment industries in general, forgetting that in the specific, there are many differences in business philosophy, perhaps even more than there are companies that support such philosophies. "Wall Street" as a commercial reality is simply where the money flows in and out, a natural phenomenon of a fairly free market system.
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NWBrunette
Blessed Girl
09:16 AM on 10/14/2011
"What do they want?" All the money. Duh.
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AlanBannacheck
President of the Deep Thoughts Association (DTA)
08:02 PM on 10/13/2011
This whole country is based on profit and status. Just look around you; how many labels or brands do you see?
zSpin2001
All your base are belong to us.
07:46 PM on 10/13/2011
Selfishness governs most of what we do when we see no alternative for success and fail to see anything grander than our own egos.
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Peter007
06:14 PM on 10/13/2011
What does Wall street want ?

People that create wealth want to take a percentage of that wealth that they have created.

People that just want to take other peoples creation are called thieves.

Wall street wants to be left alone to do what they do best.

They create wealth and will share it with people willing to take a risk.
Freedom created wall street.
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cats530
Valar morghulis
07:43 PM on 10/13/2011
Do what they do best? Destroy the economy?
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NWBrunette
Blessed Girl
09:19 AM on 10/14/2011
Wall St does not and has never created one shred of wealth. It packages wealth in new and creative (misleading) ways, it trades those packages and moves the risk around (to other unsuspecting people). But it does not create wealth.
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Peter007
09:35 PM on 10/14/2011
A fool and his money are soon parted.
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koos458
We Live In A Kleptocracy
06:09 PM on 10/13/2011
The big lie is that Wall St. is there to invest money that builds a better world. As we have had so repeatedly demonstrated for us is that it exists to take money from the people who earned it and give it to a select few. The rich have no more right to hoard wealth and rule the country than royalty did in Europe. Down with the kleptocracy!
04:06 PM on 10/13/2011
Look at their website and you can see what they want .... other folks to work and give them something for nothing. Nothing on their site even hints at the fact they might actually have to work for what they get. One of my favorite interviews with a protester was a young lady who was bemoaning the fact that she was 7 months from graduation and was not guaranteed a job ... oh yes, her degree will be in Gothic literature, for which I am certain there is a great demand ... not.
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Shaun Hensley
The American Experiment has failed
05:53 PM on 10/13/2011
Hi I build factories. Not much of a demand for that, either. Seems opportunity has dried up in this country. What's up with your precious leaders? Did your ideology fail the country? Must have, because your ideology has prevailed for the past generation.
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koos458
We Live In A Kleptocracy
06:19 PM on 10/13/2011
F&F. Used to be a foundry mechanic, non-union. Made good $$$. We were making castings for Caterpillar, who contracted with the Soviet Union to supply equipment to build a big pipeline. Regan decided we weren't going to do business with an evil empire, the orders got cancelled and the foundry (Electron, Denver) got closed. The Japanese and French got the business instead. Every congress and administration since Carter has sold us out. They were paid to hold the door open so Wall St. and the MIC could loot the nation.
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02:17 PM on 10/13/2011
Wall Street does not want JUST money. It wants to eliminate any measure of individual freedom to live outside their dictates. They fund market forces that increasingly dictate where you will work, IF you will work, under what conditions and for what pay, where you may live, what you may buy. They want us utterly dependent on their decisions and choices for us all. Thus you may not remove yourself from their control with consumer protections, union bargaining rights, benefits, etc. that keep you reasonably independent of their power and control. Inside every economic decision they make lies an interior political decision about keeping all of us dependent. That is a very serious concern that is frequently overlooked. Their assault on government is simply an assertion of their insistence that we have no recourse to Social Security, Medicare, or any other means to keep away from their abuse of our freedom. This is not just about their immaturity. It is about their power.
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Pinmason
Occupy Democracy
03:17 PM on 10/13/2011
I believe the question is what do the Occupy Wall Street people want and not what wall street wants; however, I believe your assessment is correct.
WALL STREET WANTS YOUR MONEY...ALL OF IT AND THEY'LL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO PERPETUATE THEIR POISON.
END THE ILLEGAL GAMBLING ON WALL STREET AND SAVE AMERICAS FUTURE.
STOP THE EMERGING GLOBAL ECONOMY THAT WREAKS HAVOC ON THIS COUNTRY AS MILLIONAIRS AND BILLIONAIRS FROM OVERSEAS HAVE MORE INPUT INTO AMERICAN POLICY THAN THE NINETY-EIGHT PERCENT THAT LIVE IN THIS COUNTRY DO. THE PROBLEM WITH THE OCCUPY WALL STREET MOVEMENT HAS IN COMING UP WITH ISSUES TO PROTEST IS THAT THEIR IS A TON OF THEM. JUST ASK THE COMMUNITY THAT HAD IT'S PARK AND CITY GOVERNMENT STOLEN BY A REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR THAT FELT IT WAS MORE IMPORTANT TO BUILD A GOLF COURSE THAN IT WAS TO ENSURE THAT AMERCANS IN THAT TOWN KEPT THEIR FREEDOM OF CHOICE.
JUST ASK PEOPLE THAT HAVE LOST THEIR HOMES IN CONSERVATIVE STATES IF THEY WILL BE ALLOWED TO VOTE BECAUSE THEY ARE NOW HOMELESS OR HAVEN'T BEEN REGISTERED AT THEIR NEW ADDRESS LONG ENOUGH TO REGISTER TO VOTE.
WHEN OBAMA STARTS ADDRESSING THESE TRANSGRESSIONS INSTEAD OF HIS BATTLE TO SAVE THE BANKS...YEA, I MIGHT CONSIDER VOTING FOR HIM AGAIN. I HAVE TO GIVE HIM CREDIT ON THE JOBS BILL THOUGH...IT EVEN HAS PROVISIONS THAT BENEFIT THE TOP TWO PERCENT. HERE, WE WILL GIVE YOU MONEY IF YOU START HIRING...LIKE THATS A HAPPENING THING.
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IamYourDrillThrall
You can't be pro-war & pro-life.
07:18 AM on 10/15/2011
I would love to read what you wrote, but the all caps makes it nearly impossible. Please repost, without the shouting. Thank you.
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Peter Combs
Amused by the illogical..no, NOT a Republican
01:33 PM on 10/13/2011
Wall Street is a "mechanism" it does what the rules dictate it to do. If laws are lax, Banks will create mischief, investors wil creat mischief, if laws are too tight, business will earn less, hire less and seek alternate routes of profit.

Twice in the last 40 years, the Government has reduced restrictions on what Banks can do, and twice in the last 40 years we've had disasters from it...

Trying to argue some sort of Moral guidline is absurd in any market, anywhere in the world..

Wall Street doesn't "want" anything...it just IS...what it does is up to Washington....
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Pinmason
Occupy Democracy
03:39 PM on 10/13/2011
"Wall street doesn't"want" anything..."
They want your money and as much of it as they can get if not all of it and could care little about anything else including your personal freedom to speak up here on the HP addressing concerns of their greed and hoarding at everyone elses expense.
This is not about a mechanism...this is about people who will stop at nothing to get your money and when thats gone they will and are going global to take that money too. They and their mechanism could care less about people. To them it's about dog eat dog and may the dominant dog win. Thats what we see now everyday in politics and business. Well I've seen people who have lost everything thanks to their mechanism of hoarding. Be careful if you want to survive.That poison is working its way higher into the tree and it will steal you blind too. Of course, we could just let them keep their policy of moving jobs overseas because it's CHEAPER. I wonder how much less they would have to spend if they moved your job overseas. The poison is spreading...
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Peter Combs
Amused by the illogical..no, NOT a Republican
05:22 PM on 10/13/2011
Jobs go over seas because they have to, because every other country is moving jobs to Asia, South America, India and now into parts of Africa...you can hire an engineering consultant in India for $25,000 a year that would cost you $150,000 a year here, and in India thats fantastic pay. If you want to be competitive, your costs have to be in line with your competition..or just close down..Expenses DO count.

Wall Street reacts to the world economy, not the USA alone....we are not the country we used to be and haven;t been for years. We now have HUNGRY competitors...and they want what YOU have...
01:11 PM on 10/15/2011
I have to agree - Wall Street is a metaphor not some real entity - "What Wall Street wants" is an interesting question but inherently problematic. What many (though by no means all) the traders, hedge fund managers, bankers, and market makers seem to want is the ability to gamble with other people's money - but without risk to themselves or their assets. It may not even be "money" per se that drives this - but instead an addictive process tied to profit making. Why else would people spend 80+hours a week working on quantitative formulas or staring at monitors?

Wall Street exists because a government allows it to - and in the US that is a government for and by "the people". If the activities there no longer serve the good of the people (and I'd say the good of the 1% is certainly not "the people") let's change it.

We can expect complaints from many of the 1% because in essence we're stealing the candy (or heroin) ...

There are those who don't appear as addicted but are in the 1% - we ought to be looking to that group for whether we're headed in the right direction of balancing self-enterprise with appropriate contributions to the commonweal.... Warren Buffett lives modestly - he has made money because he enjoys it as a vocation - not because of its rush in the sense of acquisition of material goods.
12:53 PM on 10/13/2011
What do Occupy Wall Street Protester Really Want?

Where has the conservative media been since 2008?
They want financial fairness and justice for the people!
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Peter Combs
Amused by the illogical..no, NOT a Republican
01:21 PM on 10/13/2011
read the article, its not about the protestors...
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02:18 PM on 10/13/2011
It would be oh so helpful if you could define how that is manifest. Otherwise it's just words.
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Gui Montag
Former Palestinian Supporter
09:54 AM on 10/13/2011
I'm not sure that they even know what they want.
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IamYourDrillThrall
You can't be pro-war & pro-life.
07:32 AM on 10/15/2011
I agree with you. One protestor who was interviewed said "it isn't important what you're protesting, just PROTEST."

They'll fizzle out quckly unless they can agree on a concrete set of demands, and be prepared to back it up with BATNA's (Best Alternative to a Negotiated Agreement.)

This is a good idea in principle...but reading the OWS website, or anyone of the dozens that support it, can be dizzying. There are a zillion articles, hundreds of subjects...make your own clothes, start a food co-op, communal living, free computers, etc, etc, etc. How does this help ME? Middle aged, no retirement (since my IRA has depended on Wall Street, and has LOST 50% of its value.) a house that has ZERO equity in it.

Young people just graduating are facing a world without the same options and choices that our generation had. My daughter just got a BS from a highly acclaimed college; graduated in the top 10% of her class, and is, brilliant (and of course, I'm not prejudiced!)....the best job she could find in her field pays her $11.00/hour and keeps her work week just shy of full-time, so that she isn't entitled to any health benefits. Her issues are different than mine.

I'll keep watching...this is either going to get very interesting, or it will just be another failed attempt to change the course of our country.
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Lane Campbell
Say what?
11:51 PM on 10/12/2011
A stock market exists in order to facilitate the creation of capital through the issuance and sale of stock. It's how money is raised for productive effort. Yeah, it gets perverted when the little creepy-crawlies who infest the woodwork think they can get something for nothing just by continually trading on the changes in values. I don't know about the "morality", but in the simple sense of functionality, the Street needs to regain its focus on its primary purpose.
12:54 PM on 10/13/2011
F&F ~ Excellent point Lane Campbell!
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02:22 PM on 10/13/2011
It is manifesting its purpose brilliantly. What it is NOT doing is what founded its operating principle - creating and lending and financing business "in the interest of the best health and security of the nation and its people." There were very good reasons the colonies did NOT operate as capitalist entities - people knew that unfettered self interest would not benefit anyone other than the few. The post-Revolutionary War changes were permitted due to the promises made that the nation and its people would be better off. When that ceases to be true as it did in the late 19th century and the 20s and now, the political economic morality of capitalism is totally destroyed. It's primary purpose has to be restated IN LAW since we have sat by and let the purpose become legally distorted. Dodd-Frank is a good first step. We cannot sleep through this again.
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IamYourDrillThrall
You can't be pro-war & pro-life.
07:34 AM on 10/15/2011
Good post, Choicelady320. Faved.
10:27 PM on 10/12/2011
I hate to burst your bubble but those former students of yours who now work on wall street have turned to the dark side and won't be back...