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The Art Of Sleeping With The Enemy

Posted: 10/27/2012 10:22 am

I have good friends. Call them Ed and Paula. They are in a mixed marriage: she's a Republican, he's a Democrat. Both take their respective affiliations seriously.

They've always made their union of political opposites work. But this season, there is coolness in the political air. They find themselves avoiding dangerous territory.

"It's funny," Paula told me. It's just harder to talk about things in this race."

Maybe they just reflect the country as a whole -- the feeling that it's a zero-sum game. From the left: Republicans are for the rich, and against just about everybody else. From the right: Obama will preside over America's financial ruin.

Both those positions have likely been hardened by the current climate of Congressional polarization: "I'm OK. You're the anti-Christ."

Evidence of a hardening of positions is visible in a paper published in Public Opinion Quarterly. Stanford University professor Shanto Iyengar points to a 1960s study that found 5 percent of couples would be upset if their child married outside their political party. A study in 2010 put that figure at 40 percent. For the record, Republicans would be more upset -- 50 percent to 30 percent.

How do couples cope? There are some visible examples that say it can work.

Mary Matalin and James Carville have not only crafted a 20 year marriage out of political opposition, they've turned it into a lucrative traveling show. The current odd couple is vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan and his wife, Janna. He: impeccable Republican credentials. She: from a prominent Democratic family and a former high-profile D.C. lobbyist.

Mrs. Ryan was described by friends in a recent New York Times article as a liberal- leaning Democrat turned political conservative -- with some reader posts calling her apparent conversion nothing less than an ideological betrayal. Ah -- the things we do for love.

We might assume that the political issue would be addressed at the beginning -- during dating. Political opposites would be eliminated the way a PETA member would write off a dove hunter.

The much-quoted Match.com survey, "Singles in America", says: not necessarily. Only 17 percent of men and 20 percent of women said that someone of the same party was a "must have." Compare that to 65 percent who said they must have respect, trust and the ability to confide in each other.

Overall, 57 percent of singles said they would marry someone with dramatically different political beliefs. That seems to make it more of a consideration than a deal breaker -- perhaps on the order of your significant other's position on reality shows.

Surveys do find one interesting political difference. Conservative Republicans are more likely to want someone who shares their values. But they are more likely than Democrats to cross party lines to find romance -- something James Carville attributes to the fact that "Democrats are hotter."

When dating progresses to marriage, there is research evidence that opinions tend to blend over time. Husbands used to dominate the shift. More recent surveys show a more mutual convergence.

Still, there are limits. Our political persuasion is a potent combination of genetics, family and where we grew up. The Match.com survey found that almost half hadn't changed a political view in the last ten years; and almost 95 percent had never changed a political belief because of a relationship.

The majority who are willing to cross party lines for love must also confront a fact of 21st century life. In everything from choice of TV news to favorite Internet sites to living in a red or blue state, it's very easy to insulate ourselves from all opinions that are contrary to our own. That hermetic seal is harder to maintain within the walls of a two-party home.

There are some common sense considerations for peaceful co-existence.

First: don't try to the win the argument. You won't, and it will never end. Agree to accept -- even celebrate -- your perpetual state of counter opinions. Don't plaster the refrigerator with the latest win for your side or setback for the other. Don't inject politics into family issues: neither Democrats nor Republicans are to blame for a tight budget or rocky relationship. Never try to win the kids to your side. One more: if your spouse puts a campaign sign on the lawn, don't steal it in the middle of the night.

The most important thing in an age when we tend to argue positions with fingers stuck in both ears is, simply, take them out. Listen. Somewhere in the opinions from the supposed dark side there may be an idea or two to consider. That one is as useful on the other side of the aisle, as it is from the other side of the bed.

 
 
 

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02:50 PM on 11/01/2012
My husband and I are political opposites. We joke around that our votes cancel each out. Our adult kids don't always agree with either one of us politically either. It's o.k., because we view our family as a family of individuals who have alot in common, but we try to respect each other's political views too. It's not worth fighting about. It helps if you have a good sense of humor. We all can agree that politicians can be very funny creatures. Hear any good political jokes lately?
08:05 PM on 10/30/2012
Wow, lot's of biased comments coming through loud and clear in this section. As the wonderful Depeche Mode once said, "People are people so why should it be, that you and I should get along so awfully?" Look. I think it is fine to disagree about politics, even helpful, so you can see another point of view. But making sweeping character judgements based on someone's political affiliation is really uncalled for. All of the people saying, "I would NEVER date a ____, they are heartless (fill in the blank)s, all of them!" should really examine their own prejudices. It's okay to not want to date someone because of their beliefs. It is another matter entirely to condemn and or mock them for it.
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05:54 PM on 10/30/2012
I have a friend who is just like this. She's a Dem and her husband is Republican and, for them, it works. they have a sense of humor about it. and their child is the most politically aware 4th grader you'll ever meet.

I don't know if I could do it. my boyfriend and I are very similar politically and I enjoy our political conversations immensely. though, I have had a lot of practice duking it out over the years with my very religious and conservative mother. my dad is more middle of the road and he and I just avoid certain topics.

in fact, he made an abortion joke the other day and then worried he'd offended me because I was "one of those." "one of what, Dad?" I asked. he said, "a pro-lifer." I just laughed and laughed.
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04:24 PM on 10/30/2012
Wow! This shouldn't be tough. If we can't agree on the various issues of the time, which is a must for me,economy, politics, social, culture, envionment, election and, yes, who to vote for etc., what kind of life would we be living ? I would say no amount of VIAGRA could help eventhough I am not at that age yet !
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rtgmath
There has got to be a better way!
03:42 PM on 10/30/2012
Fortunately I have a remarkable wife.

I have made the torturous transition from being a Fundamentalist (and Republican) to being a Liberal (and a Democrat). The theological shift came with a political shift as well.

In both the theological shift and the political shift, my wife not only has listened to me but pretty much accompanied me. And while I am the more liberal of the two of us, I have no complaint. That my wife would stick with me through the thought processes and sorting that accompanies such change (though it took many years) is wonderful.

I know that were I married to such women as were prominent in the Independent Baptist Church I once went to that I would be divorced -- or dead -- today. It would have been too much for them to bear. My wife, on the other hand, had been raised in an Episcopal school, listening to rationality and reason, even though she eventually ended up at a fundamentalist college. We met, got married, and over time I changed. And she was able to handle the transition.

I could not sleep with someone who could take Romney's "47%" remark in stride, or be comfortable with his taking one position one day, and the opposite position the next. While I do not support everything Obama has done, I consider him much more truthful and stable than Romney.

I hope to keep my wife for a long time. As I said, she is Remarkable..
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06:39 PM on 10/30/2012
rgtmath...You are a wonderful man and you are lucky to have a wonderful wife..you have made the transitition and blessings are many for you and your family....
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democratbob
Equality for all, including marriage.
06:25 AM on 10/31/2012
I can identify with your story. I also have a remarkable wife who has stuck with me through my journey from political conservative to liberal (though she has largely accompanied me on this trek) and on my journey from fundamentalist Evangelical Christian through a liberal Christian phase (where my wife largely is these days) to agnosticism to atheism. I can honestly say we are more in love than than at any point in our nearly 33 years marriage and that's a lot due to her. Kudos to both you and your wonderful wife.
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02:51 PM on 10/30/2012
of course most people are unwilling to admit up front that they'll only fall in love with someone in their political party.
nonetheless, I remember an old Washington Post article from earlier last year that said that being close politically can be a good tie in marriage. think about it, if you disagree with your loved one on fundamental political and social issues, odds are that you disagree with them a lot, and that you only like them at the moment due to physical infatuation
12:28 PM on 10/30/2012
Live and let live. If you love each other but disagree on politics, just don't discuss politics.
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12:21 PM on 10/30/2012
We've made it work until this year. Very hard feelings from our daughters and me towards a husband/father that would vote for the GOP. Women's issues, environmental issues,iran war, reversal of the ACA...all reasons we cannot understand why anyone would vote gop.
03:18 AM on 10/30/2012
Thank goodness my husband and I are both Democrats. One of the first questions I asked him when we first started dating back in 1993 was whether he voted for Bill Clinton. And one of our first dates was a fundraiser for Gary Locke, who at the time was running for King County Executive. Who knew he would end up on President Obama's Cabinet and then become Ambassador to China? I love the fact that all of my in-laws are progressive and we actively discuss politics at all of our get-togethers. It's probably not very comfortable for conservatives who join us though, since we are all pretty passionate about our politics. It's nice not to have to censor yourself, and to be able to openly express your political beliefs with your family members.
02:51 AM on 10/30/2012
While I believe in the idea of "mixed marriages" ever since the 90's when it became clear that the Republican Party is nothing but a bunch of mean, underhanded, dishonest and toxic politicians, I gave up on the idea of being broad minded enough to date a member of the GOP. I wouldn't be able to respect or find common ground with someone who would vote for Mitt.

If the person I was merely too naive to understand what the Republican Party stands for, then I would feel like I was dating someone who was too dumb to bother with.

It's sad but there it is.
02:50 AM on 10/30/2012
If a woman is hot and willing to have sex with me, I don't give a damn what her political beliefs are. She would be mine.
09:00 PM on 10/31/2012
"Yours"??????
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Can you put your country before your party?
11:41 PM on 10/29/2012
I've noticed that my Republican friends are extra touchy this election. I believe it is because deep down they know they have two abhorrent candidates, yet they have picked Team Republican and are going to vote for them anyway.
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01:21 AM on 10/30/2012
That saying is true: Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line.
03:33 PM on 11/01/2012
I think that some of it is because there are issues on the ballot that make them uncomfortable. They can be very irrational and behave as though the end is near, armagedden is right around the corner, and the country will go to hell if marijuana is legalized or if anyone disagrees with them. They just want to be in control of everyone elses lives. They want to play lord and master. It's not going to happen.
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11:39 PM on 10/29/2012
sorry, major deal breaker. gotta have someone who shares my beliefs. doesn't have to be as passionate as I am, but definitely has to be along the same lines. can happily have you as a neighbor but can't have you in my bed. Have to say that was one of the first things I found out about my hubby when we were dating just after college.
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Nicholas Carroll
01:25 AM on 10/30/2012
Political and religious views are a first date question for me. I simply have to know before a potential could go any further.
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millebocca
veni, vidi, clicki
06:18 PM on 10/29/2012
thankfully i am not in the market
but if i were, fox news on the tube or beck on the computer would be a deal breaker

as for ryan's wife, she's just pulling the advantageous marital goodwife stunt, equal to all the religion-changing women have been doing for years. she is no deeper a committed thinker as is her shallow hubby.
05:59 PM on 10/29/2012
This election cycle makes it too easy for liberals and conservatives to undervalue one another's good points. I've got conservative cousins who've achieved wealth epitomizing traits I've always attributed to conservatives in general: orderly, disciplined personal habits, a head for enterprise, a pay-as-you-go mentality for growing a business from nothing. One of them created a series of home-run businesses employing his children in product assembly, order fulfillment, whatever they could do. He paid them more than their little friends were making, and far less than he'd have to have paid outside employees. The difference between those two figures put his kids through college. Liberals I know who have achieved as much tend to be insanely good at one thing, good enough to be able to hire -- OR MARRY -- people who can keep their messiness from overwhelming them. I think our species will always need both kinds of mindsets, and we will continue to be fascinated by and attracted to people we want to lock up on Election Day.