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Why Can't Men Love Like Women?

Posted: 09/06/11 09:25 AM ET

I was having one of "he can't connect emotionally" conversations. A friend was telling me about her relationship angst over his inability to understand her needs and to talk about his. Even though I'm in research and not therapy, as a psychologist, I get that a lot.

As I listened, a question occurred to me: is she confusing love with the expression of love? In so doing, was she subjecting her perfectly warm and loving significant other to a test he was bound to fail?

Maybe ... men just love differently. To jigger the famous line from Sex and The City; it's not that he's not into you, it's just that the expression gets hung up in the netting of a woman's expectations of expression as proof of existence.

Current research confuses the issue -- particularly the study by Rutgers University biological anthropologist Helen Fisher, whose study of 5,000 American adults found that men are becoming more interested in commitment and attachment, and women are more interested in relationships that allow them a degree of independence.

One might assume that a shift toward commitment and attachment might create a slipstream that would pull along more open and demonstrative emotional communication.

It's an assumption that runs into some formidable limitations imposed by biology. There is more at work here than too many Clint Eastwood movies.

University of Pennsylvania neuroscientist Dr. Ruben Gur says that the same way men and women have different bodies, they have different brains -- with eons of evolution creating distinct wiring. It goes well beyond the formative impact of testosterone and estrogen.

It's a matter of how we're built, he says, not what we learn. And he has the brain imaging to prove it.

Other studies elaborate on the biological link to male-female communication styles. Men are wired to act during times of high emotion, since emotion can lead to violence; there is a shut-off mechanism. He stops talking -- just when women, wired entirely differently, want to talk.

As reported on the Web site Uncommon Knowledge, there may actually even be survival instinct at work. It takes longer for a man's blood pressure and immune system to return to normal after high emotion than it does for a woman.

Research, the site reported, also found that boys were faster to turn off a recording of a baby crying than girls. Simple insensitivity and impatience? Actually, the boys reacted to the crying with a higher release of stress hormones. Boys are more fragile than girls medically and emotionally. Boys are more susceptible to birth defects and developmental disabilities; they are more vulnerable in the womb, with more fetuses lost in miscarriage. As children, they are more easily stressed, which means they cry more when they are upset and have a harder time calming down. And they are more emotionally vulnerable to the ill effects of extreme lack of affection.

Then, too, there is the documented fact that elderly men are much more likely to die after losing a partner than are elderly women.

Such findings point to some serious irony. All these insensitive men are actually more reactive to emotion than women, so they are genetically programmed to avoid it.

This biological Venus-Mars dynamic -- and confusion -- extends beyond the precincts of romantic love.

In my research for my recent book, I found that this confusion extends beyond romantic love. A number of women said they had worked hard to create an emotional connection with their fathers, but failed. Yet, when they described the relationship and the level of interaction, it is clear their fathers cared about them very much.

All of that begs the question "Can't we all just get along?" If we have an appreciation that we are products of our wiring, it should be possible to logically override the programming, and simply give each other what we need.

Psychotherapists know well it's not that easy. One of the many challenges in couple's therapy is that both halves of the couple want "validation" that each partner experiences the other's emotional state, and sees value in the experience. The problem is that means taking an excursion into the head of the other person. Women are often fine with that -- welcome it. Men often don't want their deepest feelings valued -- much less experienced -- by anybody. If knowledge is power, what could be more powerful than knowing somebody's innermost feelings?

For women hungry for the emotional growth of their partners as measured by communication of feelings, it could be an uphill journey, pushing against the great big boulder of biology. When the other signs are good -- reliability, kindness, attentiveness and the rest -- it might mean coming to terms with the fact the love is there, it's just expressed in ways that will be clouded by the mysteries of the male gender.

 
 
 

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I was having one of "he can't connect emotionally" conversations. A friend was telling me about her relationship angst over his inability to understand her needs and to talk about his. Even though I'm...
I was having one of "he can't connect emotionally" conversations. A friend was telling me about her relationship angst over his inability to understand her needs and to talk about his. Even though I'm...
 
 
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09:33 PM on 10/10/2011
Not very PC, but it sounds right to me..(guy).
12:37 AM on 09/17/2011
"Siegfried enters the ring of fire, emerging on Brünnhilde's rock. ... he thinks the armored figure is a man. ... when he removes the armor, he finds a woman ...
At the sight of the first woman he has ever seen, Siegfried at last experiences fear. In desperation, he kisses Brünnhilde, waking her from her magic sleep. ... Brünnhilde is won over by Siegfried's love, and renounces the world of the gods" From Wikipedia
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nix28
Ignorance stirs my inner demon...Sorry.
05:52 PM on 09/16/2011
I think women and men should take the chance to learn their partners. Men are typically not as expressive as women. When women push, men become resistant. Women are typically very talkative, and when men don't listen, the talking turns into fussing. If women and men could learn to communicate while respecting each other's boundaries, there would be less of an issue.
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12:56 PM on 09/13/2011
I think this is something we have all know for years, that men love much harder and their love lasts much longer than a woman's love does. This difference in intensity explains why so many men are hesitant to start or end a relationship while women can trade partners like shoes. This is also why most divorces are filed by women, and as we now know conclusively, that married women cheat more than married men. Love is very serious for men, who have much more to lose (emotionally and financially) should love fail, while it is treated as a game by women. This is why the "resource-seeking" behavior of women is much much stronger than the "love" connection.
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nix28
Ignorance stirs my inner demon...Sorry.
05:49 PM on 09/16/2011
The article did not say that men love harder, it said that men are more medically and emotionally fragile. And from what I've seen, men jump from woman to woman quite a bit more frequently than women jump from man to man. I don't know, must be all that "sowing wild oats" crap I keep hearing that men (and some women) use to justify male promiscuity. Also never heard about women cheating more than men; where is the evidence of that? Since you said "conclusively," I'm assuming you have statistical evidence to back this up? You honestly sound like you've been burned and it's coloring your judgment.
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05:13 PM on 09/21/2011
Who hasn't been burned? But no, again, my analysis is based upon observation of others. I am happily married (just once! I'm a rare bird).

Why is that so many, when they disagree with a comment or premise, feel that rather than directly refuting that comment or premise, that attempts to undermine credibility ("you've been burned and it's coloring your judgment" for example).

The evidence about women cheating relates only to marriage. Men still outcheat women in relationships. And what the evidence says is that some men are serial cheaters, and they drive up the numbers as they cheat on spouse after spouse. With women, the cheaters come from all walks of life and occurs across the board. Many of the women have just one affair, which again may explain why it appears that men cheat more.

There is also a much greater element of emotional attachment in women's affairs. It truly can be "just sex" for the man (no, I'm not justifying it - it is still wrong) while a woman will likely never reconnect with a husband she has cheated on.

Which is more destructive to the family? I guess one could romanticize the "cheating for love" notion, but that is wrong too. Get divorced first rather than acting like a hormone-driven animal.
12:25 AM on 09/13/2011
Relationships are complicated emotions run high and in the end most people end up divorced.
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Badger33
I'm trying real hard to be the shepherd.
01:52 AM on 09/12/2011
Sorry, I've had the unfortunate experience of dealing with many women who fear intimacy--wanting emotional investment but not responding in kind. I don't buy the premise.
recless
Evidence first. Believe later. Maybe.
06:12 AM on 09/12/2011
Bingo! Worst enemy is always the one staring back at you in the mirror, regardless of gender.
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goozled
Stand up to the Corrupt status quo
12:50 PM on 09/11/2011
Just one example, woman and the wedding ring... First its just a silly little rock that comes from the ground...2nd..its overvalued,60 Minutes did a segment on Diamonds in Russia, The host (mike Wallace) was walking with a Russian General in a warehouse outside Moscow. In this warehouse were stacks and stacks of Diamonds... The General stated if he released just 25% of the diamonds, a 4 carat diamond would be worth about 50 bucks. I have had this conversation with woman and their response is "well im worth it"....not even realizing that I just told them the diamonds are basically worthless...
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Edward Wilkes
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12:27 PM on 09/11/2011
Why can't women love like men.
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anitaj
06:23 PM on 09/11/2011
Why can't we be patient with each other and realize that love is expressed in many ways.
08:32 AM on 09/11/2011
Why can't women say what they really feel, instead of acting like its a secret that men should already know, where not mind readers.
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Nicole Dominique
Snarko-American living a socialist Canadian dream
09:58 PM on 09/14/2011
'Coz when we do y'all run for the hills...
04:40 PM on 09/10/2011
begs the question "Can't we all just get along?" If we have an appreciation that we are products of our wiring, it should be possible to logically override the programmin

dr Drexel
this is the basis of almost, if not all religions, faiths, philosophies,
that lead to enlightenment of the mind.

we must and can get along with our own thoughts and with one another, and nature.
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teacherfor25
I say it like I see it.
04:17 PM on 09/10/2011
I think it was stated perfectly with "men just love differently." All the men I've dated in my lifetime are non-communicators, while I want to talk things out when issues arise. Yes, it's frustrating. Even my male friends shut down when things need to be discussed. That's just the way they are. Is it right or wrong? Neither. It's just a different way of handling things. As for showing emotions, men are raised not to show emotions or cry, where girls are expected to show their emotions---it's ok if they do so. We can't condemn men for reacting this way later in life.
02:31 PM on 09/11/2011
Thank you.

Well it all boils down to recognizing we are all different, some are big factors such as gender. Men have frustrations with communications with women as well. We all need to understand relationships are hard work to make them good for all parties. Do that hard work and most times you will be rewarded. Do not condemn people with broad notions and generalities.

I like/love females (wife and 2 young adults in my family), but I really do not understand women all that much better and have to be educated all the time. But I have grown in patience.
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teacherfor25
I say it like I see it.
04:51 PM on 09/11/2011
Believe me, I find the lack of communication frustrating. I am also learning every day on how to cope with the communication issue. It's not an easy lesson, but one we all need to continue to work on to make issues better between the sexes.
08:13 PM on 09/12/2011
Being a man I was not raised not to show emotions or not to cry. Once more none of my male friends were raised in this manner. A feeling or emotion is just that, an emotion and often has zero basis in reality. Just because you feel something doesn't mean that feeling is valid. Being a male I can tell that that not everything needs to be discussed. If anything one problem between men and women is over communication. We just don't have the need to overemphasis how we feel. That's what your girlfriends are for. Men are for lawn maintenance. Tell us what you want done and we will do it. Other then that you can pretty much leave us alone. Men and women ARE different. It's not cultural. It's not societal. It's biological. Now this is, of course, general. Not every male is like this, just as not every female is a walking, weepy, slave to her emotions. But the majority are.
07:39 PM on 09/09/2011
It is interesting how Dr. Drexler seems to conclude how fragile men are as this relates to emotions. Dr. Drexler (and many feminist types) seems to have forgotten when trying to view men through a 'modernist prism,' that men are not like women; that women are not qualified to psychoanalyze men without even understanding themselves- many women admit that they feel that they understand men better than they understand themselves-- and that men are formidable creatures able to put aside emotion to deal with the truly difficult tasks of building and running the world, conquering nature, advancing science and technology, protecting and maintaining women, defining the law and moral codes, defining and interpreting our highest religious codes/ethics etc. Can we therefore dignify the leaders of the world with subject matter that means something rather than more vaginal politics?
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livefortruth
There is only ONE truth.
12:33 AM on 09/10/2011
"and that men are formidable creatures able to put aside emotion to deal with the truly difficult tasks of building and running the world, conquering nature, advancing science and technology­, protecting and maintainin­g women, defining the law and moral codes, defining and interpreti­ng our highest religious codes/ethi­cs etc"

Times are changing. Time to adjust.

"Can we therefore dignify the leaders of the world with subject matter that means something rather than more vaginal politics?"

Get used to vaginal politics. It would be in your own best interest.
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02:14 AM on 09/10/2011
LMAO!

I suspect JB's illustrious entry into the HP world is a satire, if only because it is hard to fathom that anyone would write this with a straight face ("protecting and maintaining women," really).

Then again, I suppose it is possible -- I had no idea how much (some) men hate (and fear) women until I started reading HP (and not only) comments.
03:27 PM on 09/10/2011
Times are changing no doubt, and no disrespect was meant in the comments. The truth of the observations will not change with time, as long as men and women possess different natures (no matter how much we desire otherwise). And vaginal politics continues to lose its luster among both women and men, as these truths are increasingly self-evident.
Vaginal politics is like a house of cards.
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03:17 PM on 09/10/2011
Interesting POV, Jon. As one of the decidedly unformidable purveyors of vaginal politics, I am perplexed about a couple of things in your comment -- so please bear with my vaginally-influenced confusion.

You say that "women are not qualified to psychoanal­yze men without even understand­ing themselves" because "many women admit that they feel that they understand men better than they understand themselves.­"

If "many" women do not understand themselves, it probably does not mean that all women do not understand themselves; therefore making a leap from "many" who don't, to a generalization that (presumably) all women are "not qualified" would seem logically (and vaginally) unjustified.

Additionally, if you maintain that understanding herself is a necessary condition, for a woman, to understand a man, then it makes no sense (to this unformidable vaginal creature) to posit -- and especially to believe -- that "many women admit they understand men better than they do themselves."

BTW, do you have any evidence to support your contention that women do not understand themselves?

I'd press with more questions, but I understand that the leaders of the world likely will not have the time to respond to an unformidable vaginal creature. (Those questions would include, but not be limited to: Do men understand themselves? Do they understand women? Are they qualified, in any capacity, to "psychoanalyze" women? Are we at all qualified to "analyze" and understand each other? Etc.)
03:51 PM on 09/10/2011
There has been an implicit assumption that women have the authority to tell men what they lack, but not the reverse.[That is therefore vaginally unjustified =) ]. Those women that confuse the issues of roles, male/female nature etc., clearly don't understand either gender well, otherwise there'd be no mass confusion. As for more evidence, this column and the prevailing literature on gender are replete with supporting evidence. Vaginal politics is a house of cards.
02:02 PM on 09/09/2011
I must have an unusual man. He never stops talking about his feelings. I wish that he would take a step back from his feelings sometimes and give them a little less importance in his life.
01:24 PM on 09/10/2011
Welcome to miserable life of only EVERY hetero man EVER.

Go vagina monologues !
09:34 PM on 09/10/2011
Dude, I have no idea what you mean. Does your reference to the vagina monologues mean that you think women should hook up with each other so that they can make each other miserable? lol
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12:56 PM on 09/11/2011
lol
11:31 AM on 09/09/2011
"Then, too, there is the documented fact that elderly men are much more likely to die after losing a partner than are elderly women."

I hop she mean to add "more likely to die SOON" as I have yet to read of immortal widowers
04:05 PM on 09/10/2011
the role a woman plays in a mans life is far more complex than what we know.
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catbyte
Anishinaabe in MI
09:58 AM on 09/09/2011
"Why Can't Men Love Like Women?"

OK, this is just a stab in the dark, but is it because they're MEN? *Wink, wink, nudge, nudge*

Bwahahahaha
04:06 PM on 09/10/2011
they do
but its not always expressed in the same language, same body language,
speech,
dialect, emotions, touch etc etc.
that is our fault,
we havent mastered how to express ,in many more ways,
one language is hopelessly inadequate.