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Women and Revolution -- What Now?

Posted: 03/18/11 10:33 PM ET

Is the new boss the same as the old boss?

As protest rolls through the public squares of the Middle East one of more unusual sights is women standing shoulder to shoulder with men, risking their freedom and their lives.

They were there from Tunisia to Egypt to Iran to Libya. Said Egyptian author and activist Nawal El Saadaw of her days making history in Tahrir Square: "I felt for the first time that women were equal to men."

Somewhere between hope and belief, this season of freedom could also be a new day for the Middle East's women. There are good arguments that the revolutions would have never happened without women -- they were the slogan makers, the march organizers, the activists.

Revolutions, however, are unpredictable by nature -- especially when they collide with centuries of misogyny in a country that ranks 125th in the World Economic Forum's global gender gap rankings, where large majorities of women report being harassed and molested, where genital mutilation is still common, and where not one woman was named to the committee that is reforming the constitution.

Will the women who risked all to bring down a government find that all they got for their bravery and sacrifice was a shuffling of oppressors?

The early signs are not encouraging.

Even as 1,000 women marked the 100th anniversary of International Women's Day -- chanting "Egyptians for Egyptians" -- male hecklers were shouting at them to go home -- "where you belong." Some 200 hundred of the men eventually attacked the women, with police largely standing by. It was the same square where men celebrated their newfound freedom by repeatedly sexually assaulting a reporter.

A necessary step to oppression is exclusion. In Iraq, women had high hopes that last year's election would elevate their political power, given a new constitution that mandates that a quarter of the country's parliament seats go to women. But the women filling those seats are largely relatives of male party members. Six years after the constitution -- and despite promises from Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki -- there is only one female minister, and she heads a barely funded and powerless backwater focused on women's affairs.

In a New York Times article, Michael S. Schmidt reported that the fear of many Iraqi women is that the loss of parliamentary power was a step toward a loss of rights in general.

Women in Tunisia have similar fears. They helped bring down the Ben-Ali regime, but are already seeing conservative elements fill the vacuum, with the possibility they will replace some of the region's more progressive family law with more restrictive laws based on religion.

It's a threat in any country where the collapsed regimes tend to have been secular, and the governments that take their place likely to be influenced by the religious factions that will be part of new coalitions.

There is also the barrier thrown up by women themselves. They have lived under a centuries-old bargain: inferiority in society in return for protection of relatives. Many women fear the loss of that protection because they have no idea what would replace it.

Still, there is hope in the determination of many women that, having helped liberate their countries, they will not be pushed back into the shadows, without rights, and subject the restrictions of strict family law and sometimes violent whims of men. For the first time they have a powerful leveler on their side -- Web sites that allow them to organize and spread their ideas and, as in the recent revolutions, their outrage.

Activist Nawaal el Saadawi, who felt the stirrings of equality in Tahrir Square also added: "Women's rights cannot be given." They can only be taken "by the political power..."

In Tunisia and Egypt, and possibly more countries to come, women helped win freedom from autocracy. But the next battle may be just beginning.

 
 
 

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Is the new boss the same as the old boss? As protest rolls through the public squares of the Middle East one of more unusual sights is women standing shoulder to shoulder with men, risking their fre...
Is the new boss the same as the old boss? As protest rolls through the public squares of the Middle East one of more unusual sights is women standing shoulder to shoulder with men, risking their fre...
 
 
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08:36 PM on 03/21/2011
I agree that the revolutions in the Middle East may not dramatically reverse centuries of misogyny. I also recognize that new governments influenced heavily by religious factions could impose further restrictions on women. However, I think it’s worth pointing out that what the author terms the “bargain of women’s inferiority,” looks very different today than it did even a few decades ago, and women have made some important advances that will not come undone.

According to the World Development Indicators, in 1980 the literacy rate among adult females in the Middle East North Africa region was just 28%. In 2008 it was 67%. Female participation in the labor force has climbed slowly but surely from 21% to 26% during the same time period. In Tunisia and even Saudi Arabia, which is often viewed as the epicenter of female repression, there are now more women in tertiary education than men. Women’s access to education as well as increased choice regarding family planning have both contributed to a decline in the total fertility rate from six births per woman in 1980 to just three in 2008.

Women should not be satisfied with these gains. There is still a long way to go. However, it’s encouraging to know that women can achieve incremental progress under any boss, and that women in the Middle East today are more educated and better prepared to fight for their rights than at any other point in their history.
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10:10 AM on 03/21/2011
I attended a Punjabi birthday party last year. (I ran sound for the musicians) I was one of only two non-muslims in the place. (the tabla player was a sikh) It was a culture shock to see all the women sequestered in a small, hot room while the men partied and danced to the music all night. I may not have academic backup for my thoughts, but to me, men and women only become truly civilized in each others company, if not achieving equality, at least striving for a balance. Yes, the women suffer from their imposed role, but the cost to the men, and to their society as a whole seems tragic too.
I would issue some platitude about this not happening in our country, except it was. Holding on to tradition, I know, but strange to see.
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09:14 PM on 03/20/2011
sadly... the Egyptian revolt will, in the end, do nothing to end the mysogyny imbedded in orthodox Islam.....if anything, the new government will allow more Sharia rule, leaving the vast majority of women as second class citizens and worse
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08:10 PM on 03/20/2011
I still have no idea what is meant when people throw the word "equal" around everywhere.
05:55 PM on 03/20/2011
"Will the women who risked all to bring down a government find that all they got for their bravery and sacrifice was a shuffling of oppressors?"

Probably. That's what happened in Iran in the 1970's.
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02:34 PM on 03/20/2011
"Will the women who risked all to bring down a government find that all they got for their bravery and sacrifice was a shuffling of oppressors? "

As an American women who fights against her own governments illegal invasions that set women shoulder to shoulder with men in the ME, the answer is yes
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01:37 PM on 03/20/2011
When an 11 year old can be gang raped and the community spokesperson (Quanel X) explains it away and blames the victim, then everyone knows we have a long way to go in our own country.
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12:54 PM on 03/20/2011
I cannot help but wonder if the entire concept of the nuclear famly inevitably requires the oppression of women?

Perhaps this is a scandalous notion but think about it for a moment. In our culture we tend to see a married heterosexual couple with children as the cultural norm and ideal even if this represnts only a fraction of the households existing today.

What would happen if the normal structure was a small tribe of affliated adults of both genders, some of whom had children? Aldus Huxley proposes an interesting variant on this in his book Island in which individual families are participants in small tribal groups who together enter into mutaul adoption relationships where all parnets are responsible for the care of all children and the village has a separate children's house.
05:33 PM on 03/20/2011
"I cannot help but wonder if the entire concept of the nuclear famly inevitably requires the oppression of women?"

Marx and many many feminists have suggested this for years. Hardly a scandalous notion.
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11:37 AM on 03/21/2011
the idea that God does not exist has also been kicking around for a long long time, yet many people today veiw this claim as scandalous, especially because it can be proven.
12:50 PM on 03/20/2011
I was discouraged to learn that the women of Egypt were not given a voice in government, but I think women around the world could make a difference by boycotting travel to Egypt. Egypt relies heavily on tourism dollars. If women around the world refuse to go to Egypt, then we can force these ignorant men to elevate the status of women in Egypt. As a woman, I say, "Boycott Egypt until Egyptian women are given a voice in their country!"
12:32 PM on 03/20/2011
I support the causes of women all over the world. Although we western women have it good compared to women in other countries, even here at home we have to vigilant and protect the rights we have fought for and won over the centuries.

Democracy has enabled women to advance and the Republicans are the the greatest threat to American democracy. And the greatest threat to a woman's rights. They are going to extremes to take away a woman's reproductive rights.

They say they believe in the sanctity of life, but only when it's in the womb. After that, the mother and child are on their own, and do not expect any assistance. You can tell a lot about how Republican men feel about women by the women they choose to represent their party - unintelligent, uneducated and unnecessary i.e., Bachman, Donahue and Palin.

Women are the more evolved gender because they've had to overcome more environmental and cultural challenges than men. Of course there are still many women who are not evolved, and they seem to also be Republican. But it really isn't limited to Republicans.

Men who want to keep women submissive are primitive, and are driven by primitive desires, namely, copulation. They would screw the back of a train if they could catch up to it. Once one becomes aware of this fact, one can exercise her power.

LOCK YOUR LEGS, LADIES.

And don't open them until women all over the world are treated equally.
10:49 PM on 03/20/2011
Men are as evolved as women. Please don't spread falsehoods just because you have issues against men.

I find it incredible that my first answer to this post saying the same thing in the previous paragraph was censored by HuPo (wasn't even approved) even though I didn't use any personal attacks, swear words or something remotely similar. It's even more surprising that a comment that claims that a portion of humanity, namely men, are "less evolved" than other humans is accepted by HuPo. That's beyond misandry. Would a comment stating the (obviosuly absurd) claim that women are less evolved than men be accepted? I don't think so.
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10:20 AM on 03/20/2011
War is the best method of putting women in their place -- prone. Religion is second best.
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09:34 AM on 03/20/2011
I can remember years ago, when Stokely Carmichael commented, when asked about women in the civil rights movement, that "the position of women in SNCC is prone." That comment galvanized a lot of women who went on to become activists in the women's liberation movement back in the 60's.
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09:59 AM on 03/20/2011
They all felt that way. the SDS the panthers all of 'em.
We were to be their bedmates, cooks, listen to their brilliance. All they did was piss us off.
Those men in Egypt better watch out, this is how a wimmin's revolution starts. The more they catcall, the more determined we become.

And we American wimmin need to get our groove back or the war on wimmin the republicans a re waging will put us right back to where we were before and never think any man wants us to have our freedom form their desires for us to be their slaves...not even the "progressive" men.
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01:44 PM on 03/20/2011
In 2010 congressional elections, the majority of women and senior voters both voted republican. Both groups are now getting their payback and either group is liking it.
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01:47 PM on 03/20/2011
It's okay to spell it w-o-m-e-n. Oh that's right, it contains the word "men". MEN MEN MEN MEN MEN. Drop your resentments.
08:00 AM on 03/20/2011
"First, women gain the use of power--not the right to it--in periods of loose control. In conditions of severe hardship, like famine or war, women and men struggle together for survival; in periods of tight control, men exclude women. Women can use their talents only marginally in times that have margins." (from pg. 188 of Marilyn French's incredible expose: "Beyond Power," 1985.)

"Beyond Power" should be required reading for every female on the planet. And every male on the planet, too.
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Kassandra
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10:56 AM on 03/20/2011
Read "When God was a Woman" by Merlin Stone
02:22 PM on 03/20/2011
Have done so.
11:34 AM on 03/20/2011
25 years later I think you need to read a book about the reality that exist today. The feminist movement in America has successfully run it's course. The same can't be said for other truly disadvantaged groups.

I applaud those who want to help women in other cultures but I don't suggest exporting the American female culture abroad because we are having a hard time stabilizing our families and need to figure out our own mess telling others exactly how to live. The gender wars need to end, the women who persist in male bashing in America are no better than sexist of the past. Misandry is a real problem. If the post feminist , feminist don't acknowledge the changed landscape then expect a backlash from men and women.
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12:09 PM on 03/20/2011
"misandry is a real problem"
Please give examples...I hear this often on threads about outrageous acts against women.
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12:29 PM on 03/20/2011
You are incredibly naive if you think women have equal rights to men in this country right now. Women still are not paid equally for equivalent work. Women hentering colleges today routinely have higher test scores than men, yet recieve lower grades on average. Meanwhile one of our two major political partieis is engaged in a sustained campaign to deny women the right to control their own bodies.
04:48 AM on 03/20/2011
The only difference between the Tea Party and the GOP is that the Tea Party will actually state the agenda that the GOP won't.
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12:27 AM on 03/20/2011
i'm afraid to say this, but women bear some responsibility in their own mistreatment, beginning with the manner in which they rear their sons. instead of allowing the "boys will be boys" mentality to permeate until adulthood, women should be informing their sons of the importance of women and their treatment, and the many contributions of women in individual households and in the community. if mother nature didn't automatically make men sensitive to the needs and aspirations of women, then it's our job to do so. start teaching your sons from a young age to behave responsibly sexually and treat women with respect, irrespective of what religious doctrine states.
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06:59 AM on 03/20/2011
These women are not raising boys alone in the house. They are also taught at the mosque and at school of their "proper role" as second class citizens. Women can be publicly punished by anyone for violating any custom/law and the husband (who was generally not their choice) has the power of life and death over her. Yeah - its all their fault.
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Kassandra
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10:02 AM on 03/20/2011
Wimmin have been so brainwashed by religion and the lies of the Patriarchy that we can't even access our own power and self-respect.
THAT'S what has to change and it may take a long time.
For one thing, get rid of that male god which men say gives them rights over us that they do not have.