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Peggy Drexler

Peggy Drexler

Posted: September 16, 2010 09:41 AM

There's no doubt that women are good for the Tea Party. But is the Tea Party good for women?

There is no simple answer to that because the Tea Party is notably short on simple answers to anything. But much we do know: they have had a real impact on the Republican primaries -- including shockers from Delaware to New York to Alaska.

We also know that, contrary to the early image of a fraternity of angry white men, women are the heart of the movement. Thinking began to change with the March release of the Quinnipiac University poll that revealed that 55 percent of those identifying themselves as members of the Tea Party are female.

It is also now clear that women have a seat at the grownups' table. Writing in Slate, Hanna Rosin points out that, to the extent the movement has leaders, it is dominated by women. One example: of the eight Board members of the influential Tea Party Patriots, six are women.

Sara Palin, the movement's acknowledged alpha female, drew a fusillade of brickbats from traditional feminists when she said that "momma grizzlies" like those of the Tea party were the real feminists. When you strip the term down to the base metal of equality without excuses, she has a point. These are women rising up to confront a world they feel threatens their families. They are loud, determined, unafraid and -- politically speaking -- have great big teeth.

But will the results of that determination be ultimately good or bad for all women?

Unfortunately, good and bad, are hotly subjective when it comes to issues like choice, gay marriage and single parenthood.

Organizers studiously stayed away from such division. Reporting on last weekend's Washington D.C. Tea Party event for Politico, James Hohmann and Kenneth P. Vogel noted a determined lack of attention to social issues -- particularly those embraced by the Christian right.

They quote one Maine organizer for the Tea Party Patriots: "... there are a lot of people in this country who don't want religion in their politics."

Politics, certainly in this regard, is about getting elected. Whether the Tea Party women want religion in their government may be another question entirely.

The question becomes more interesting the deeper you dig into the statistics. A CBS News/New York Times poll created a snapshot of the Tea Party movement. Almost three-in-four said they were conservative and almost 40 percent said they were very conservative. Almost 40 percent call themselves evangelical.

Aggregate statistics don't neatly translate to individual intent. But it's fair to assume there aren't many coming out of this base who will champion issues like gay marriage, choice, and single parent families. Gay marriage and choice are clearly high on Sarah Palin's list of American evils. Single parent families get a pass for obvious reasons. But as Colleen Campbell quotes her speeches in a recent St. Louis Post-Dispatch editorial -- single mothers are "strong enough and smart enough" ... to "handle an unplanned pregnancy", while continuing to pursue education and a career. In other words: when the going gets tough, the tough keep the baby.

So my question to the women of the Tea Party is this. If you take back America from the forces of big government, big spending and big taxes, do you plan to share it with the teenage girl who is unprepared to raise a child, with the gay couple who want the simple right to marry, and with families who may not fit your own definitions?

 
 
 
 
 
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01:27 PM on 09/21/2010
The women of the Tea Party are not feminists in my estimation. They parrot the views of the Rep party even when those views are not good for them, i.e. abortion. As women, they are the ones who would be subject to abortion, there fore they should decide whether it is 'right' or 'wrong'. They let the Catholic Church and fundamentalist churches TELL them it is murder. Isn't it odd that an ovum only becomes important after it is fertilized (male sperm) and therefore life has begun and it is now a human being? If these women are truly independent, then let them decide what is right in this situation. Having an abortion in some instances is not an easy decision, but sometimes it IS the lessor of two evils.
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tj101
Hata ukinichukia la kweli nitakwambia
02:15 PM on 09/21/2010
Absolutely. No woman is 'pro-abortion'. I know what's right for my life. I would never assume that i was better suited to make that decision for another woman. That's they very definition of the term "tyrannical dictatorship"
10:21 PM on 09/21/2010
No one is talking about making a decision for another woman .. they are talking about not being forced to help pay via public grant and tax money for women making a decision for the fetus. Cultures which encourage arranged marriages - a decision of marriage partner - for the yet unborn are considered less than civilized. But what would those cultures think of our culture subsidizing the decision of life or death. That is a decision each of use should make on our own for ourselves.
02:47 PM on 10/08/2010
For every woman such as yourself, who thinks that abortion can obviously be the lessor of two evils, there is another who thinks you are dead wrong, and that abortion is always murder, plain and simple. I wholeheartedly agree with your basic point-of-view, but your last statement is every bit as bad as many I've read by pro-lifers, even though it's from the exact opposite point of view. As far as I'm concerned, both of you have no tolerance for a different point of view, and you both choose to pontificate. Simply declaring that radical pro-lifers are obviously wrong isn't going to help much of anything, even if you really are correct.
11:31 PM on 09/20/2010
Peggy you need to look at your heart for answers. I'm a man and I agree with what the Tea-Party people are doing. It's a good thing, no matter who joined, men or women. The Tea-Party people are doing a great thing. The American citizens' need to stop all government spending, to vote-in people into the government who will support, and defend the US Constitution, to secure the border and send all the illegal aliens back to Mexico!
FYI: I just read in my newspaper that the American citizens pay 100 MILLION a year to rebuild, paint, renew, build, fix-up all the Muslim Mosque in 27 countries in the Middle-East!! This is insane!! The Muslims should pay for their own Mosques, in every way!! Good Lord! Also, the Muslims want the American citizens to fund the building of the NYC Mosque at Ground Zero!! What the Hell? What Official ordered this? Obama? Bush? I want to know, can anyone reading this, tell me who this traitor is? Stop funding Muslims" Mosques anywhere. This is insane!
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tj101
Hata ukinichukia la kweli nitakwambia
12:45 PM on 09/21/2010
You, also , have some cute bumper sticker slogans (stop spending, support the Constitution), but no real solutions, i see.

FYI: you can thank the bush admin for rebuilding those Mosques in the ME....what did you think "nation building" meant? That they'd put in a new YMCA?

And as far as the Community Center in NYC goes, It's a private building. i thought you guys didn't like people interfering with private ownership...now it's a problem because..why again? oh yeah, you don't like Muslims. And they are AMERICAN CITIZENS. You obviously do NOT support the US constitution if you think you have the right to interfere with private ownership.

Why is the TP movement so blatantly hypocritical?
01:32 PM on 09/21/2010
leoartist, are you sure your info is correct? People print these things to gin up anger against the Muslims, and it often turns out not to be true. By the way, the Muslims DO NOT want the American citizens to fund the community center at Park51. ( Remember, it is NOT at ground zero. ) Think about it. Why would Bush or Obama order this??? It doesn't make sense. Don't believe every thing you read.
06:00 PM on 09/20/2010
Witchcraft or Wiccan is just a natural pagan religion, and since we don't discriminate, I'd leave it alone.
Besides, I wouldn't want anyone quoting anything I've said eleven years ago. :)
10:47 PM on 09/19/2010
The comments on this thread from both sides are particularly well-stated and intelligent, unlike most of the silliness on HP. You all should be proud of yourselves.
09:13 PM on 09/19/2010
"The 'fire' will be tax breaks for the richest, removal of all regulations, destruction of the unions, and removal of evironmental constraints."

Mmmm. A guy can dream, can't he?
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tj101
Hata ukinichukia la kweli nitakwambia
09:58 PM on 09/19/2010
You've got some cute bumper sticker slogans but no real plans. No real solutions.
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Ipanemagirl
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12:36 PM on 09/20/2010
Are you saying that would be "good for the country and all of us? " if that happened? or are you being sarcastic, as I hope you are!
That would not be a country I would like to live in , if this happens., Its totally irresponsible and favors only the rich and greedy to further get richer and more powerful all at the expense of our health, the planet, and our livelihoods.and the future of our children! That's not what democracy was supposed to be about!
07:43 PM on 09/19/2010
The social issues you have listed are the 'smokescreen'. The 'fire' will be tax breaks for the richest, removal of all regulations, destruction of the unions, and removal of evironmental constraints. These social conservative issues are only for the purpose of getting the Rednecks to push the R button in November. Facism is not confined to one gender.
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11:19 AM on 09/21/2010
you are absolutely correct,,,,social issues is just to get their vote, they rarely change anything for them anyway.
06:23 PM on 09/19/2010
Ok, since this question is directed at tea party women, I'll bite:

I don't judge young women who keep their babies, in fact I would and have done as much as humanly possible to keep their children. I'm a huge proponent of easily accessible birth control and think we should do more to provide it and proper sex education to teenagers.

I believe that ALL marriage should be in the form of a civil union, at least in legal terms. That means hetero sexual marriage too. If you want to get married in a church, there are those who would be happy to marry a homosexual couple. The state shouldn't define marriage. End of story.

I'm willing to live and let live with a variety of family structures. A lesbian couple I know are the best parents imaginable.

The Tea Party is primarily about issues of taxation and government control over monetary assets. To assume that we're all a group of uneducated stepford wives with no lives and a shopping addiction is incredibly shallow. I support women. I'm a fiscal conservative. I'm also pro-life in most cases. These things aren't mutually exclusive.
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07:40 PM on 09/19/2010
***The Tea Party is primarily about issues of taxation and government control over monetary assets***

Then where were you between 2000 and 2008 when George W Bush was president?
08:24 PM on 09/19/2010
First off, who says I'm a Republican? Second, I wasn't old enough to vote in 2000. In 2004, I was so wrapped up with being in college for the first time, I didn't feel informed enough to make a decision when election day came around. I didn't vote. Clearly I'm not exactly gung ho GWB.
08:25 PM on 09/19/2010
Wait, you were using the general "you". I know plenty of conservatives and moderates who didn't like Bush's spending.
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JonB2057
Think, it ain't illegal yet!
06:04 PM on 09/19/2010
I want to thank the moderators of this discussion for being open-minded and obviously recognizing innocent humor. Many times on the Huffington Post, my comments are not posted and only one side of many arguments makes it through. This discussion is being presented fairly and I appreciate it.
03:36 PM on 09/19/2010
"Who are they?"

White Supremacists.

"What do they want?"

White Supremacy.

If white women do not disassociate themselves from these freaks, then I forsee a further division of the feminist movement along color lines.

Because I will not support these women who revealed themselves in the Hillary campaign as PUMAs.
And I'll support ONLY women of color.
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tj101
Hata ukinichukia la kweli nitakwambia
03:43 PM on 09/19/2010
This white woman is horrified by those that call themselves conservatives and Feminists.

They are not, nor ever will be Feminists.
09:16 PM on 09/19/2010
Uh, wrong. They are indeed feminists. Feminists. Feminists. Feminists. Neener neener.
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Ipanemagirl
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11:38 AM on 09/21/2010
Continued from top comment:
They consider Planned Parenthood an evil place , when its the only institution that helps the poor and teens that have no where else to turn to. We should have more Planned Parenthoods all over the country, as they serve a very vital service to the community.
People who protest in front of their clinics should be arrested and fined , as they are disrupting the only help these people are offered! I dont see any churches offering check ups and free birth control and medications and , yes, necessary abortions. and sex education!
10:38 PM on 09/21/2010
You will support ONLY women of color. What color would that be my dear?
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Ipanemagirl
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01:56 PM on 09/19/2010
Let her run, it will be fun!
If there are still some brains left in this country, she will not win. Maybe she does not realize how humiliated she can get by sticking her neck out where she clearly does not belong. Its amazing to me , that she does not have the common sence to realize herself that she is not presidential material...not even close! My guess is : She will drop out early once she gets smothered and criticized and cannot take the heat.
01:35 PM on 09/19/2010
Most of the leadership in the tea party movement are women. Most tea party candidates are women. It is a women's movement.
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01:46 PM on 09/19/2010
It is a corporately funded patriarchal movement that uses women to advance its agenda. It's FAR from a women's movement that puts families and children first.
05:10 PM on 09/19/2010
This is a real women's movement, made up of real women instead of marxist professors.
08:07 PM on 09/19/2010
Well said-- F&F.

The Tea Party is fake-feminist and fake-grassroots.
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12:51 PM on 09/19/2010
The women of the Tea Party and GOP are afflicted with Stepford-Stockholm Syndrome. (I couldn't decide which of the two, so created this new hybrid for them. Somehow it just fits.)
05:06 PM on 09/19/2010
Sounds like my kind of woman! I gotta go and check on when is the next Tea Party event nearby!
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Ipanemagirl
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12:02 PM on 09/21/2010
yes, they are usually white and fat and over 40....and carry mispelled signs....good luck!
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12:32 PM on 09/19/2010
For a woman to be a member of the GOP/ TP (same thing really with varying degrees of fringe-rightiesness) is a somewhat masochistic endeavor. These women don't see it because of the Right's mastery of propaganda and the Reagan administration-pioneered “perception management” strategies for controlling how the American people would see and understand things.

But the women in this group are almost all of one mind, and with the initiation of O'Donnell, now of almost the exact same look, and that is not what the woman's movement is all about.

As both a man, and a feminist (which anybody who really cares about society as a whole should care about the rights and treatment of half the population) I see these women, through a propaganda strategy of “perception management” attempting to exploit the women's movement, in order to drive it backwards.

You can't say one thing out of one side of your mouth then have Medina County Republican Party in Medina, OH (rallying for a male opponent) claim as one of it's goals '‘Let’s take Betty Sutton out of the House and put her back in the kitchen.’'

You can't claim that you are pro women and consistently fight against woman's rights
You can't claim that you are pro women and only use the air-brained, moronic, gussied up ones as puppets for your bidding
You can't claim that you are pro women and continually push an outdated "family values" system designed to suppress them even further.
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Lorrie Jackson
Critic. Columnist. Music Fiend.
01:12 PM on 09/19/2010
Proud fan #76
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LynneE
A not-so-elite liberal.
04:17 PM on 09/19/2010
Electronic smooch. Thanks.

And fanned.
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Joshy X
observer in Weimar Amerika
10:17 AM on 09/19/2010
American women are the core of the "Tea Party" and the conservative resurgence... good for them... and no they don't need to be fans of partial birth abortion and don't need to overturn traditional marriage.... btw when did gay/multiple/pickandchoose marriage become the driving force of democrats? blacks and hispanics want no part of gay marriage = the demo coalition always falls apart... glad the women of America are flocking to restoration and the tea party even if the Ivory Tower elites sneer at them...nothing new...the left did the same thing to Thatcher and Reagan...
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Ipanemagirl
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02:01 PM on 09/19/2010
I guess you are a teabagger....and watch fox news for facts....hmmmmm.....
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Joshy X
observer in Weimar Amerika
02:58 PM on 09/19/2010
teabagger is a gay sex term.. .not sure what you're talking about... and i've never been to a Tea Party... as far as Fox? no i read huffington and BBC and CNN and NPR ... but feel free to put up more bumper sticker soundbites... where do you get your "facts"? do tell
05:12 PM on 09/19/2010
I've gone to some Tea Party events and I regularly watch Fox News. But here I am viewing Huffington Post. When was the last time you viewed Fox News or listened to Rush Limbaugh or otherwise tried to expand your fact base?
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LynneE
A not-so-elite liberal.
04:25 PM on 09/19/2010
I don't see that gay marriage is the driving force of the democratic party, neither is abortion, or single parenthood, but they are part of their social platform, just as the republicans are anti-....well, pretty much everything that isn't associated with being white, wealthy and male. I am a working class woman that is concerned about the economy and my family, as well as the basic rights of human beings to live their lives according to the dictates of their conscience, not by someone else's biblical morals.
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Ipanemagirl
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12:09 PM on 09/21/2010
good for you , wise LynneE, faved!
09:57 AM on 09/19/2010
They want their country back (from the blacks. shhhhhhhh!)
10:05 AM on 09/19/2010
from Marxists
10:58 AM on 09/19/2010
Umm....Marxists don't believe in free elections. Marxists don't believe in free speech as is exercised in the U.S. today. They dont believe in a free press. So unless you can prove someone in our goverment is a marxist you should stop calling names and offer ideas because what you and yours are doing IS unAmerican.
IMOPINIONH8D
because I want it empty...
01:35 PM on 09/19/2010
Tinfoil hat missing again.?
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Yana7
Yes we can!
11:46 AM on 09/19/2010
No! That's just race baiting,
Try thinking.
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tj101
Hata ukinichukia la kweli nitakwambia
01:47 PM on 09/19/2010
We've heard every Faux News talking head reiterate that point.

Why do you think Faux News needed to run the False ACORN story (tape was deemed "heavily edited" by CA AG)

Why do you think Faux News needed to run the fake end edited video of Sherry Sherrod?

They count on their viewers to be uninformed and intellectually lazy.