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Perry Binder

Perry Binder

Posted: January 26, 2011 06:24 PM

With the recent huff over college students not learning a darn thing (45% Of Students Don't Learn Much In College), I figured it was time to offer what goes on in the mind of a college professor. This is what I care about and don't care about in class:

1. DON'T CARE if your cell phone goes off, as long as I get to answer it. These days, I'm having trouble distinguishing incoming calls from texts. Droid!

2. DO CARE when you distract other students. This coming from someone who as a college freshman once launched a mini toy helicopter which circled the classroom and soft crashed on his professor's head. I was surprised and relieved that the professor didn't get all Cornell prof on me.

3. DON'T CARE if you text or surf the web in class (except during exams). Show me that you are a multi-tasker, especially if I have nothing relevant or funny to offer.

4. DO CARE that you view writing as a craft (not as a "spell check" exercise). True story: In a legal document, an attorney asked the judge for a delay in his case because he was undergoing a delicate medical procedure on his back: Disk surgery. However, he mistakenly typed a different four letter word that looked like DISK, inserting an unfortunate "C" rather than the needed "S." Spell check won't catch that!

5. DON'T CARE if you make fun of my New York accent. My contracts class still doesn't know if I was referring to a pawn shop or a porn shop.

6. DO CARE that you take critical thinking exercises seriously. It's more important for you to think your way out of a legal dilemma than to remember that incorporeal hereditament is an inchoate or intangible right.

7. DON'T CARE if you walk in late or fall asleep in class. I will always give you the benefit of the doubt when you show up -- that you got stuck in traffic or just pulled a graveyard shift at work.

8. DO CARE that you get the job done. Just like in the real world, showing up for exams and meeting deadlines are critical -- except in emergency situations, detailed in the exam question below.

Finally, your professors really do care that you studied something meaningful in college. Years from now, hopefully you'll be able to look back fondly on a time when our expectation was for you to laugh hard and learn a lot.

YOUR FINAL EXAM:

This morning on the way to our exam, Marcel purchased coffee at the drive-through window of a local burger establishment. With the car stopped, he placed the cup between his knees and opened the lid to add cream. Accidentally, he knocked the contents of the cup onto his lap, and hot coffee soaked through his sweat pants. He screamed: "Help me, I'm burning, and I've got a test in 20 minutes!" After completing his exam, Marcel headed straight to the hospital, where doctors treated his third degree burns. He then sued the burger joint for failing to warn him that extremely hot coffee can rip through flesh. A jury awarded Marcel $100,000 in compensatory damages, but also found him to be 75% responsible and the defendant 25% responsible for the accident. How much money would Marcel be permitted to recover if the defendant does not appeal this verdict?
a. $100,000
b. $75,000
c. $25,000
d. $0

ANSWER: If you chose letter "c," then you understand the legal concept of comparative
negligence. In most states, a plaintiff's award is reduced by the percentage of fault assigned by the jury for an accident. However, in my state, if a plaintiff is found to be 50% or more responsible, then that plaintiff would recover nothing from the $100,000 verdict. Thus, the correct response would be letter "d." Tricky, but this question highlights the importance of knowing your state laws.


Perry Binder is a legal studies professor who blogs about teaching and humor at Crazy Classroom. Follow Perry's tweets @Perry_Binder.

 
 
 
With the recent huff over college students not learning a darn thing (45% Of Students Don't Learn Much In College), I figured it was time to offer what goes on in the mind of a college professor. This...
With the recent huff over college students not learning a darn thing (45% Of Students Don't Learn Much In College), I figured it was time to offer what goes on in the mind of a college professor. This...
 
 
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04:18 PM on 01/30/2011
7. DON'T CARE if you walk in late or fall asleep in class. I will always give you the benefit of the doubt when you show up -- that you got stuck in traffic or just pulled a graveyard shift at work.

Thank you, and all other professors intelligent and compassionate enough to understand that life exists beyondd the hallowed halls.

For two months, one semester, it became necessary for me to travel two hours each way to care for a gravely ill family member. I was late for my morning class several times due to transportation issues, and as I was aldready getting, at most, 5 hours sleep, it wasn't tenable for me to leave earlier and still function, much less retain any information (I did, however, manage to remain awake and attentive).

I will always be grateful to that early morning professor for his kindness, and for not making my life more difficult than it already was at the time. He assigned my grade on the basis of my work and my exam scores, and was also kind enough to e-mail me at the end of the semester to let me know that I had received the highest score in class that semester. Support for your number 8.
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Angel R1240
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12:14 AM on 01/29/2011
I'm in college right now and I've never had a prof. like him before. I wish that more are like you.
REDSTATEREFUGEE
Texan by birth ; Californian by choice
05:25 PM on 01/28/2011
I don't think Perry Binder speaks for all of us profs. I disagree with a few of his points.
1. I DO care if your cell phone goes off. I tell all those expecting calls to place their CP's on buzz and then take the call in the hallway.
3. I DO care if students use electronics during the class period. Hopefully, what we are discussing is relevant to their education
7. I DO care if a student walks in late. It is disruptive to our discussion and is usually a sign of disrespect. College classrooms are not temporary motels. If a student falls asleep ( which is a rare occurrence ), I tell someone else to wake him.

Quite frankly, I am somewhat concerned that Mr. Binder not only accepts the above activities in his classroom, but also assumes that other professors feel the same way.
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Perry Binder
06:02 PM on 01/28/2011
Re: your list above:
- cellphones are the rare diversion which add humor to class when I answer it (it also gets others to mute their phones)
- Actually, many of my students take notes on laptops and look up cases which are relevant to the discussion
- I work at a mostly commuter campus where parking is tough and getting to class is a challenge

FYI - The original title of this article was "What A college prof cares about..." and changed by the editor to "What YOUR prof cares about..." I recognize that professors have different ways of reaching students, but my rules have been working well for me for years. (and I'm guessing yours do for you)
02:43 PM on 01/30/2011
I never understood the whole "sign of disrespect" line educators use regarding tardiness or absences. It's narcissistic. In high school when "that" student shows up late to class after roaming the halls yes you can call that disrespectful, but college is the real world and in the real world things come up. I agree that showing up despite such unavoidable circumstances is something to be commended, not scolded. Sometimes this isn't acceptable sure, I once had a lecture class of about 200 people and having 20 people show up intermittently throughout the lecture was distracting so the prof asked that if they were going to be more than 10 minutes late they should not attend and he would accept tardiness as an excused absence and offered to provide office hours to those not abusing it.
REDSTATEREFUGEE
Texan by birth ; Californian by choice
12:13 PM on 01/31/2011
I am unsure if you have taught in college or at a university, but, if not, let me share with you what it is like to have a person enter class late, without apologizing, and walking right in front of you while the class is in the midst of discussion. It is highly disruptive and has nothing to do with a prof being narcissistic. I sometimes ask a class if anyone would consistently show up late for work. No one raised his or her hand. I then remind them that their college classes are just as important as their jobs, and that what they do in our classrooms will lead to improved salaries and better working conditions.

And, yes, there are circumstances where adults are forced to be late, but not consistently. Thanks for your comment.....
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mburgh
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10:16 AM on 01/28/2011
I answer all cellphone calls. I also ask students to use cellphones to call class members who are absent.
12:10 AM on 01/28/2011
WoooHooo. I got the question right. I guess I did learn a thing or two from your class. :)
02:05 AM on 01/27/2011
If I see a cell phone out in my room when I teach college courses, the student is simply marked absent for the day. 2 allowed absences for the semester (obviously not counting doctor's note or something like that). 2 late/leave early = 1 absence. After those 2 absences are used up, final grade for the semester drops by 10 points for each absence. It's amazing how I almost never see or hear a phone and how students are almost always there on time.
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RJWalkerStuff
12:34 AM on 01/27/2011
>>Tricky, but this question highlights the importance of knowing your state laws.

No, it demonstrates the importance of giving sufficient facts in test questions, professor. (Unless one is expected to know what state Crazy Classroom is in....)
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sempronia
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12:51 AM on 01/27/2011
He's training working lawyers, not professional test-takers.
snaggle2th
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09:37 AM on 01/27/2011
Now really, isn't a lawyer supposed to look for any angle they can find?

Answer: If it isn't EXPLICITLY stated, then the tudent may make any REASONABLE assumption. So "In most states...." they're right.

Sounds like grounds for an appeal.
11:03 PM on 01/26/2011
The real thing to know is what YOUR professor cares about or does not care about. I don't like it when students are late. It's distracting and throws me off. I care if their cell phones go off, and if I catch them texting, they're out. I don't care if they fall asleep, as long as they are not snoring loudly.

If they're stupid enough to pay for tuition and then surf the internet in class, that is their problem. I was standing in front of two students at the campus Starbuck's and one of them said "I didn't follow half of the lecture today. That always happens when I'm on the computer. I'm always emailing and surfing and then I miss everything." I almost said "so, why are you still doing it?" But that's her choice.

I think it's reasonable to set out on the first day of class, "here are my policies, here is what I care about, here's what I don't care about, this will make me come down on you like a thousand bricks." Then stick to it.
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01:01 AM on 01/27/2011
I'm having problems with that already. I'm young and female, it's day 6, and I've got this kid who sits in the front row openly texting in my 20-person class. Now, granted he is clearly peeved because I had the audacity to collect homework (!) and he has already made it clear that my class is a throwaway. When I said something, he decided to clarify that it was email, and not a text. I told him that it was just plain rude. That was Monday; today he was still texting, just under the desk where he didn't think I would see it IN THE FRONT ROW. I probably shouldn't have ignored it, but I have 19 other people who are paying attention, and I have enough to worry about. But no. I'll have to say something tomorrow, won't I. Or kick him out. I suppose I need to grow a bigger pair either way...
02:32 AM on 01/27/2011
I as a (electrical engineering) student could care less what the professor thinks. We are there under our own free will, paying thousands of dollars to listen to you talk. If we choose to ignore you and do something else, as long as we are not distracting other students it shouldn't be a big problem. Our day will come... we will either do well on the exams or we will not. Simple as that. Nothing I can't stand more than a professor who thinks they rule me. Get over yourselves.
02:46 AM on 01/27/2011
Huh. I'm a female professor too, but not so young anymore--maybe that helps? Do you have a clear policy in your syllabus, or is there one for your department? Will your department chair or dean stick up for you if you draw a line in the sand?

Students have a way of finding new ways to push the line all the time. I had no idea, for example, that when I got tougher on my assignment policy ("no late papers, no, I'm not kidding") that some students would get desperate to turn in their papers and therefore would show up an hour late, wander in, stop right in from of the podium, and scan the classroom for an open seat. I had to create a new tardiness policy to cope with it ("no, if you're more than ten minutes late, don't bother entering the classroom. No, I'm not kidding.")

But if you have already told him that he has violated your classroom policies, and he openly is rude to you again, it's perfectly fair to ask him to leave. I'd try to pull him aside before or after class and state that if he does this one more time, you will ask him to leave. Or you could state to the entire class that anyone who does ___ will be asked to leave. Then when he blows it in front of the whole class, ask him to leave.
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BevTX84
12:49 PM on 01/27/2011
I'm with you. My basic policy is: "If you don't want to be here, go. Others do and you are taking up space and distracting those who came to learn."
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09:04 PM on 01/26/2011
I (a student) care that students walk in late and text/surf the internet the entire class. Both are distracting and extremely RUDE to the professor, as well as to fellow peers. It's one thing to be late once or twice, but almost consistently in all of my classes there are people who are late every single day. If you can't get to class on time, what makes you think you're ever going to get to a job on time? But then again, I'm part of the me-me-me generation. The world revolves around those people and we should all be okay with whatever they want to do.
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Michael Dunn
09:16 PM on 01/26/2011
If such things distract you you have bigger issues. Chill out.

-Fellow member of the Me generation.
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01:06 AM on 01/27/2011
As a teaching grad student, I find myself (strangely) paraphrasing a Christine O'Donnell classic:

If you're finding alternative ways to entertain yourself in my class, then what am I here for?

-Fellow member of the Me generation who teaches
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alahnar
A strange bedfellow indeed
11:26 AM on 01/29/2011
You just proved her point. What people in the "me-me-me" generation (I'm a part of it!) don't get is that OUR BEHAVIOR AFFECTS THOSE AROUND US. I mean, really, every other generation and even other cultures seem to thoroughly understand this concept. Somehow it got lost on most of my peers.
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Reyeshawk13
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10:58 PM on 01/26/2011
What you are experiencing is nothing new. Centuries ago, when I was in college, the same stuff happened, without cell phones or laptops. In one of my classes a girl regularly and ostentatiously read the campus paper for the first half of class and then couldn't understand why the Prof wouldn't give her the extra couple of points she needed for an A at the end of term.
02:49 AM on 01/27/2011
Heh. When I was a teaching assistant, the professor I worked for taught huge bear pit lectures of 200-300 students. Anyone who read the paper would get pointed at and told firmly "put that down or leave."