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One Gun in the Wrong Hands, Six Innocent Lives Lost

Posted: 03/28/11 05:43 PM ET

On the morning of January 8, I didn't expect anything out of the ordinary.

During my 24 years as a trauma surgeon in the U.S. Navy, most recently in Afghanistan and Iraq, I treated many soldiers who were torn apart as a result of battlefield injuries.

In addition to my service overseas, I have worked in many trauma centers here in the U.S. Most recently, I trained other surgeons at the Navy Trauma Training Center at Los Angeles County-USC Medical Center. Every day, we would treat so many people with gunshot wounds. Gang warfare, crimes of passion, way too many innocent bystanders, and law enforcement personnel. So many people are shot in the United States that we bring in Navy medical staff to train in the trauma centers so they can get used to treating gunshot wounds before going to war.

After my service in the Navy, when I came back to Tucson to become Chief of Trauma at University Medical Center, I didn't expect to see much that would remind me of the combat zone. Tucson is a peaceful place, not somewhere you expect to see many gunshot wounds. But in reality we see it every day, and especially on January 8, the feeling of being in a combat zone flooded back.

All at once, we were treating eleven patients with gunshot wounds. Despite the best efforts of everyone, six innocent people died that day at the scene and no treatment could have saved those innocent people as they were killed instantly. I am proud of the work by everyone, which helped keep that number from climbing. The outcome could have been worse. But unfortunately, we need to treat people who are shot all the time, all over the United States. When I go to Europe to lecture they often ask me to speak on how to treat patients that were shot. This is because they don't have gunshot wounds in Europe, because they don't have anywhere near our level of gun violence. In Japan and Korea, they have practically no gunshot wounds at all. One fact is true, and undeniable. Where you have guns you will need well-trained trauma surgeons.

My hope is that the January 8 tragedy will teach us a lesson, so we can make sense of that ridiculous day, and so we will do everything we can to prevent a similar tragedy from happening again.

So, today I am joining other Arizonans, including several people wounded on January 8, and officials like Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik, former Arizona Attorney General Terry Goddard and former U.S. Senator Dennis DeConcini to support a new plan to fix gun background checks.

For a doctor, an ounce of prevention is always worth more than any cure. Enforcing our laws and screening for unstable people like Jared Loughner, the accused killer, would surely help. I can't see how anyone would argue against that. Innocent people die from gunshot wounds all the time, right here in our country. We have to work to decrease that, don't we?

The plan I am supporting is, in my view, common sense. And it respects the constitutional rights we all share.

It is possible to have a better system that could have stopped people like Loughner, and I would like to be a part of helping to make that a reality.

Fixing these simple gaps in the law could mean the difference between a warzone and just another beautiful, peaceful day -- both here in Tucson and in cities across America.

 
On the morning of January 8, I didn't expect anything out of the ordinary. During my 24 years as a trauma surgeon in the U.S. Navy, most recently in Afghanistan and Iraq, I treated many soldiers wh...
On the morning of January 8, I didn't expect anything out of the ordinary. During my 24 years as a trauma surgeon in the U.S. Navy, most recently in Afghanistan and Iraq, I treated many soldiers wh...
 
 
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10:09 AM on 04/20/2011
Great article. Reminds me of the recent story where a kindergartner brought a gun to class. We have to draw the line somewhere.
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Robert Huber
10:41 PM on 04/05/2011
I'll be willing to bet there are a LOT more guns floating around that have been inherited than are registered. I wonder how many registered owners are over 150 years old? :-)
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CollectiveNotIndividual
09:24 PM on 04/03/2011
The only way we are going to get out of this problem is with an expansion of government power. We must.:

1. Make all private schools illegal. The government, and only the government, should dictate where children go to school and what they learn. At a very very early age children shall be instructed by a teacher who is an employee of the government.
2. Create government run day care. The children will not relinquish their individuality to the collective unless we start early.
3. Ban guns. Only the government shall have guns, not individual citizens.
4. Raise taxes. More economic activity shall be tied to governmental spending decisions, not individual spending decisions.
5. Make all private interactions and/or exchanges that are associated with personal healthcare illegal. The government, and only the government, shall provide healthcare.
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steve-in-abq
10:15 PM on 04/03/2011
Great plan. Most of us lack the ability to make our own decisions.
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RevJimIII
Grin and Barret...
10:49 PM on 04/03/2011
Well, hello Locutus!
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David Carson
02:36 PM on 04/05/2011
Resistance is futile
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Mary Blickhahn
Is this really the best we can do?
08:23 PM on 04/03/2011
My only question for the dear Doctor is "Why do you assume all the victims of a shooting where shot by a gun that was obtained legally?" Many guns are owned illegally in this country. Most by criminals who fail the background check. They can obtain it many different ways, steal it, buy from another criminal, trade drugs for one, or use a different weapon to kill a gun owner and take theirs. I am sure there are more, but I am a law abiding citizen who is actually not smart enough to get a gun illegally and well, I figured it out!
08:58 PM on 04/03/2011
It won't be too hard for you to further "figure out", then, that the glut of legal guns has enabled the glut of illegal ones, and that America's "law-abiding" gun-owners, by merit of their irresponsible, mongering ways, are largely to blame.
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CollectiveNotIndividual
09:26 PM on 04/03/2011
I agree Slip....Only the govenment should be allowed to have guns...not us average folks. We must learn to submit ourselves to the authority of then state !!
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RevJimIII
Grin and Barret...
10:54 PM on 04/03/2011
Irresponsible, mongering ways? lol...
 
A very, very small percentage of firearms owned in the U.S. are used in crime... the overwhelming majority of firearms owners, 'law abiding citizens' are very responsible.
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Grumpy Man
Disappointed idealist
07:34 AM on 04/03/2011
Why liberals should LOVE the 2nd amendment:

http://www­.dailykos.­com/story/­2010/7/4/8­81431/-Why­-liberals-­should-lov­e-the-Seco­nd-Amendme­nt

I've no doubt that Dr. Rhee means well. I also understand he sees the negative results of gun use almost exclusively. Depending on which study you read, some 800,000 - 2,500,000 crimes are thwarted by armed citizens each year. Dr. Rhee's line of work doesn't bring him in contact with people who's lives were saved from predators by an armed citizen. He doesn't meet the women who were NOT raped because they were armed. His viewpoint is myopic.
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science teacher
09:50 AM on 04/03/2011
Why is it in America that we have to arm ourselves to be safe given the amount of wealth that we devote to jails, prisons, private security and police protection?

The rest of the industrialized world seems to do quite well without their citizens having to arm themselves.

That is the burning question that doesn't get asked.

It would also seem reasonable that strictly enforcing the laws we have and reducing the number of civilian firearms produced and sold in this country would be a good first step towards addressing the concerns raised by Dr. Rhee.

We are a nation seemingly awash in firearms compared to the other developed nations.

At one time in my life, I felt the need to carry a firearm for protection and obtained a carry permit and registered my pistol with the local police department.

It was not something I did lightly, I was trained in the Marines to take firearms seriously as deadly weapons.

I also spoke with several police officers about the legalities of using a weapon and employing it in a defensive situation.

After getting this information, I realized that as a civilian, I was taking a big chance in using my weapon for defense.

Unless you have the drop on someone and are ready to kill them, a firearm is of little use. There are also serious legal consequences to consider.

I later disarmed myself and have not had a firearm for over twenty years.

You can live without personal armament.
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steve-in-abq
03:37 PM on 04/03/2011
"Unless you have the drop on someone and are ready to kill them, a firearm is of little use. There are also serious legal consequenc­es to consider." Consequences. Here's an idea: make the criminals suffer some consequences. The criminal, being free of respect for the lives and property of others, and morals/ethnics, is driven by cost, benefit, risk and reward. If the chances of be caught are low and the rewards are high, they commit the crimes. If we let (encourage) the homeowner to kill home-invaders, maybe we would see some changes. The bottom line is: the police oftentimes just do the paperwork after a home invasion. The thug(s) gets away, the homeowner is screwed over. 'ready to kill', well if more people would get in the mindset that by killing a thug, they are helping their community we'd be better off.
Before you reply with the standard lib responses, explain to me how the criminal is not driven by cost, benefit, risk and reward.
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Grumpy Man
Disappointed idealist
09:59 PM on 04/04/2011
I live without personal armament on a very regular basis. I base my decision to carry on my activity. Sometimes I simply forget to put it on before I leave the house. It's usually no big deal. I don't recall ever turning around to go back home and retrieve it if I forgot to put it on. Then there are the days that I go to remote areas and I feel better about bringing "insurance" with me.

I'd never deign to tell you that you MUST carry. Equally, I wouldn't be tolerant of you telling me that I can't carry. Zat make sense?
11:35 AM on 04/03/2011
Perhaps the Dr. values fact over fiction.
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David Carson
05:08 PM on 04/05/2011
and for you-- it is snark uber alles--I do expect to see you marching proudly with the Pink Pistols on May 22
03:29 AM on 04/03/2011
While there should be some restrictions on mentally ill people serving as our representatives from taking money from foreign political action committees to promote wars I agree that there are laws on the books from doing so and they should be enforced.
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11:25 AM on 03/31/2011
There is a historical change in the weapons rights' groups. Concealed of weapons and overt weapon carry, except in hunting season, was widely seen as an abberation, even by the NRA two generations ago. Yes, there was the Birch Society and the paramilitary Minutemen of the 1950s and 60', but a small group and not mainstream. Things have changed over the past years. Even the term militia has morphed more to mean vigilati, and it it not uncommon to tie gun rights to explicitly overthrowing the goverment. Previously, carrying a gun was identifyed with hunting animals four weekends a year. Now gun is increasingly identified with the ablity to hunt people year around, if that person themselves "feels" hunted.There is a surge in right wing extremist groups is a measure of that level of conscious. In one sense, the gun proponents are right, guns don't kill people, but militarism sure does.
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Rooster Coburn
Less Gov't + More Responsibility = A Better World
09:23 AM on 04/03/2011
Millions and millions of small, concealed carry revolvers and later semi-automatic pistol have been manufactured in America and Europe since the latter half of the 19th century.  What do you think people who purchased them used them for, paperweights, maybe?
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TokyoStormWarning
If you're not outraged you're not paying attention
06:56 PM on 04/03/2011
Your right. I remember when guns where almost exclusively identified with hunting, not "self protection."
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RevJimIII
Grin and Barret...
12:40 PM on 04/04/2011
Maybe to some folks, the public perception of firearms (pistols) as personal defense weapons became clouded over the last 30 years or so, during the time when many laws were being enacted to 'save' us from the violence.
05:35 PM on 03/30/2011
I support 2nd amendment rights however I also support having a recent (within 5 years) psychiatric exam before purchasing a gun. Hopefully that would limit wackos buying guns just to shoot up a bunch of innocent people because their depressed or the voices in their head told them to. I cannot see how anyone would support allowing a depressed paranoid schizophrenic to own a gun.
06:55 PM on 03/30/2011
Mental health can change in much less than 5 years.

What other rights will you accept a psychiatric evaluation requirement for?
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09:25 PM on 03/30/2011
To vote might be another right to be check over.
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schotts
Strength and Honor
10:30 PM on 03/30/2011
If we do agree to a psychiatric exam to exercise a Constitutional Right, I believe that requirement should extend to other Rights such as voting, using the internet, etc.

Of course nobody wants a depressed, drugged out schitzo owning a gun but I am not going to take a psychiatric exam just to exercise a Right.
03:43 PM on 03/30/2011
Europe and Japan don't have our culture, our laws and our demographics. You're comparing apples and oranges.
Most (slightly over half) of the gun deaths in America are suicides. They are tragic but I doubt that they are preventable. Japan, as you stated, has tough gun laws yet their suicide rates are much higher than ours.
About 1/4 of the gun deaths in America are criminals killing other criminals. I really don't see much tragedy there. It's no loss to society.
The remaining 1/4 of the 30,000 gun deaths per year in America are innocent victims and this is sad, tragic and a loss. I hope that we can agree on harsher penalties for those responsible for these deaths....the criminals. Of course you could blame the gun dealer, the manufacturer and the NRA but using that logic you would also blame HP, Apple and Compaq for the actions of internet predators.
BTW, doctors kill about 50,000 people per year in America through mistakes, carelessness and incompetence.
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09:28 PM on 03/30/2011
"Most (slightly over half) of the gun deaths in America are suicides. "
Can you provide the proof for that statement?
Bad doctors kill more people than guns.
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RevJimIII
Grin and Barret...
08:57 AM on 03/31/2011
I can but google is your friend.
09:03 AM on 03/30/2011
Well, I guess that's it then - you can start turning in your firearms at the nearest police or fire station. Apparently they're dangerous....
05:07 PM on 03/30/2011
Of course they are dangerous. Guns are designed to kill.
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CelticMajic
The answer lies in each of us individually
07:39 PM on 03/30/2011
Mine must be defective as they have killed noone.
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09:29 PM on 03/30/2011
My gun hasn't killed anyone either but it sure tears up targets.
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June Conway Beeby
08:48 AM on 03/30/2011
Let's use our scientific minds to understand our brains.

We have made the brain sacrosanct in terms of scientific reseaerch, and therefore have discouraged and delayed scientific investigation into its workings. This fear of the brain,along with popular dystopian novels, has made us overly fearful of disturbing this organ which holds scientific answers to serious mental illness like schizophrenia, manic deprsssion and related psychoses.
It is long past the time to find find the causes and cures for these age-old chronic diseases, and take the rationale steps towards preventing these for-now incomprehensible tragedies.
09:22 AM on 03/30/2011
"a well armed society is a polite society"

---Robert A. Heinlein
05:07 PM on 03/30/2011
30,000 Americans killed by gun use yearly, is hardly polite.
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Jim Pasterczyk
Banned!
07:16 PM on 04/03/2011
Sounds to me like a terrorized society.
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Rooster Coburn
Less Gov't + More Responsibility = A Better World
07:07 AM on 03/30/2011
Better yet we should all be celebrating March 29 as the 100th anniversary of the adoption of John Moses Browning's seminal Colt Model of 1911 .45 caliber pistol by the U.S. Army and eventually by the people of our great nation as a whole.
05:08 PM on 03/30/2011
I'd rather ignore this gun fetishist holiday. Our great nation is endangered by gun proliferation.
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schotts
Strength and Honor
10:36 PM on 03/30/2011
endangered? gun ownership is at an all time high - about 80 million gun owners. concealed carry is at an all time high. more and more people are participating in shooting sports and learning how to shoot firearms.

Violent crime, including homicides with firearms, is on a downward slide and has been for about 20 years. More guns, less crime. Do the math ST.
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RevJimIII
Grin and Barret...
12:11 AM on 03/31/2011
"The sky is falling, the sky is falling!"  Scor.... I mean Chicken Little.
09:10 AM on 04/03/2011
I felt the same emotion in 2006 (30-06 cartridge). 2012 will be the venerable Winchester Model. 12 pump shotgun centennial.
06:15 AM on 03/30/2011
The irony is that these proposed changes would not likely have prevented the AZ. shooting. J. Loughner did not have a documented history of mental illness. In the case of Loughner, as with Maj. Nidal Hasan, although there were numerous "red flags" none of their colleagues chose to properly report these concerns. There are numerous examples of guns being removed from the mentally unstable, or those with extremist views, evidence that the system does work when applied properly. In my opinion, what must be reviewed is the "culture of correctness" that precluded the early investigation of both of these lunatics and inevitably led to the shooting of 24 people combined.
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CelticMajic
The answer lies in each of us individually
08:17 AM on 03/30/2011
Well said.
05:09 PM on 03/30/2011
The irony is that gun apologists choose to do nothing.
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CelticMajic
The answer lies in each of us individually
07:36 PM on 03/30/2011
ST, what would you do?
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09:36 PM on 03/30/2011
ST -- You have way to take care of the problem ?
01:21 AM on 03/30/2011
Had it not been for that darn Map ... the lovely Mrs Giffords would be whole and in one piece today.

Curse Palin and her target Map !!!
01:36 AM on 03/30/2011
riiiight, as she put the gun in this id.iots hand

too funny
06:38 AM on 03/30/2011
I suggest we ban all maps!!

In the era of GPS, who needs them anyway.
09:43 PM on 03/29/2011
Thank you Peter for your words here and certainly there is nothing wrong with more strenuant background checks. I have to say though that these kind of tragedies will never be stopped until we choose two things: 1) To remember who we are. We are divine beings having a human experience. When a person truly gets this (as hundreds of thousands worldwide have), they can then begin identifying with the compassionate loving being that they are deep inside (that we all are). 2) We need to honor and accept all aspects of ourselves, bar none. Each one of us is capable of the same violance that happened in Tucson. Violent individuals show us aspects of ourselves we've yet to honor and make peace with. When such potential within is triggered, even slightly, all it really wants is to be honored and loved by the real us--the divine, compassionate being that lies within each of us. Once accepted in this way, this aspect of us integrates, no longer needing to act out. When enough of us end the battle within, the battle will disappear on the outside--not until. Thank you. Blessings...