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Protesters Are Occupying Wall Street, But Not Yet Changing It

Posted: 10/24/11 06:40 PM ET

Earlier this month, at the ocean-side Fontainebleau Hotel in Miami Beach, the people who nearly blew up the global financial system got together for a party.

The event was called ABS East, with ABS standing for asset-backed securities, the investments built of mortgages, car loans and credit card debts that formed the building blocks for the disastrous, speculative bets that delivered the financial crisis of 2008. As the event's website made clear, the agenda in Miami Beach was all about resurrecting this lucrative trade: "Reshaping the Structured Products Industry Together."

The list of sponsors amounted to a rogue's gallery of the institutions that trashed the economy and looted taxpayer coffers while enriching themselves: Goldman Sachs, Bank of America Merrill Lynch, Citigroup, Standard & Poor's. At well-lubricated evening parties, lawyers and due diligence firms schmoozed traders and investors, jockeying for a piece of the spoils.

The distance between this scene in Miami Beach and the protests that have emerged in dozens of cities as part of the Occupy Wall Street movement must be measured in light years. According to one person who attended ABS East, the chief executive officer of a mid-size East Coast business lender, the subject of the protests hardly came up at the trade show, a reflection of the fact that Wall Street rarely loses sight of its mission -- making gobs of money -- regardless of whatever else might be happening on the planet.

Over the last couple of years, the Securities and Exchange Commission has sued major banks, arguing that they essentially cheated their customers. Investors have sued lenders, asserting that banks sold them toxic securities dressed up as solid assets. Now, people wielding signs are saying unflattering things about bankers. If anyone was feeling bad about this in Miami Beach, they kept it to themselves or drowned their demons in Wall Street-furnished liquor.

"If they didn't respond to complaints from customers saying they got ripped off and lawsuits from investors, you think they give a damn about some beatniks peeing in a park?" asked the chief executive, who spoke on condition he not be named for fear of damaging his business or attracting peeing protesters to his own lawn. "There's no connection between the 1,000 people I hung with in South Beach for three days and the external world. Other than the occasional sentiment that the Occupy Wall Street guys are a pain in the ass, no one was thinking about them. I actually found it kind of shocking."

Occupy Wall Street has clearly secured itself and its list of grievances a spot in the national conversation. But can it alter the ways of high finance in the nation's financial center? Can it evolve from a nuisance and curiosity into a meaningful impetus for reform? On that score, signs are not in evidence -- at least not according to the people supposedly in need of said reform.

At major Wall Street banks, questions about whether protests are having an impact on daily activities bring polite return phone calls from corporate spokespeople, who deem the subject off-limits for on-record conversations. Those who earn their living on Wall Street and are willing to talk generally say nothing has changed, while deriding the protesters as misguided and ineffectual.

"All they've done at this point is rerouted some people's commutes," said John Tabacco, chief executive of LocateStock.com, an electronic trading platform used by short-sellers, whose office sits within two blocks of the protesters in Zuccotti Park. "They have not done anything that has fostered change."

An executive at a major Wall Street investment bank, who spoke on condition he not be named, said the demonstrations have prompted no communications strategy talks inside his institution, let alone a reexamination of business practices.

As he portrayed it, the protesters are running behind events, not leading them: Federal regulators are already dickering over new rules for Wall Street. The real action is in Washington, he said, taking heart in the apparent reality that, in the realm of public opinion, "Congress is held in much lower esteem than banks."

Still, this executive said the demonstrations are being watched carefully in his shop, viewed as a manifestation of genuine sentiment. "People feel really pretty desperate, and that's entirely understandable," he said. "They think big business and politicians have rigged a system unfairly against them."

Tabacco, the chief executive of LocateStock, pronounces himself broadly sympathetic to the demonstrators in their critique of the bailouts lavished on major Wall Street banks during the worst of the financial crisis three years ago.

He vents disgust at the Obama administration, which he said has perpetuated the problem of many lenders remaining so big that their failure would constitute risk for the broader financial system, creating an imperative for their rescue -- an imperative that lenders use as a government insurance policy, enabling them to maintain business as usual. But he also vents disgust at the protesters who, he said, have picked the wrong venue.

"They're protesting against the wrong people," Tabacco said. "They are standing in the middle of lower Manhattan and busting the chops of working people, and not doing anything good. What they should do is protest the government continuing to allow Too Big To Fail and engaging in corporate welfare. Why are you protesting the banks, who are basically the recipients of corporate welfare? Why aren't they protesting the administration that allows those policies to continue? The longer they stand in the park and aim the wrong message at the wrong enemy, the longer people here think it will just dwindle."

In Miami Beach, the festivities unfolded amid dire worries that the securitization business has itself dwindled, taken down by the fact that would-be buyers for asset-backed securities no longer have faith in the product. And why should they? Wall Street is like a restaurant whose kitchen has been directly implicated in a record-breaking food poisoning outbreak; one in which the health authorities themselves proved either missing in action or paid off to look the other way. Those days of people lining up in the foyer for tables are over.

At the Fontainebleau, worries centered on how investment bankers vastly outnumbered investors -- all product, and no customer -- a dynamic of greater immediate import than protesters.

"If people don't trust Wall Street," said the chief executive of the business lender, "then nobody plays."

 
 
 

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Earlier this month, at the ocean-side Fontainebleau Hotel in Miami Beach, the people who nearly blew up the global financial system got together for a party. The event was called ABS East, with ABS s...
Earlier this month, at the ocean-side Fontainebleau Hotel in Miami Beach, the people who nearly blew up the global financial system got together for a party. The event was called ABS East, with ABS s...
 
 
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
miketothad
trollslayer
05:26 PM on 10/25/2011
If OWS protesters plan to perpetuate the "both sides" false-equivalence myth that effectively assisted the Tea Party in gaining seats, I can't wholeheartedly support them.
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HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR
sviolette
Cops Pepper Spraying the Constitution!!!
06:31 PM on 10/25/2011
The Koch bros. assisted the tea party but you can wholeheartedly support them.
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
miketothad
trollslayer
08:27 PM on 10/25/2011
I'm a Democrat. Looks like you missed the point.
11:15 AM on 10/25/2011
The arrogant and self righteous view that OWS will just fall apart is dangerous for Wall Street and the government. They all want to ignore us to death. That won't work. Sooner or later, quantum mechanics will intervene and some unanticipated event will trigger a much larger protest, which could destabilize the whole country. Short sighted politicians need to act and develop a set of ideas to change the status quo. The ideas are right in front of us all.

1) Re-institute Glass-Steagall
2) Regulate derivatives.
3) Break up the too big to fail banks.
4) Put in a real mortgage rescue for homeowners, not banks. REQUIRE banks to refi loans that are under water. The bank takes a hit (they record the losses), and the Govt takes a hit (reduced tax income because of those losses).

Start there and then wait and see. This is not rocket science. All it takes is the will to do the right thing.
04:34 PM on 10/25/2011
It is a waiting game, as there is in place a procedural machination, put in place by establishment and foundation operatives; to dissipate energy through endless process, keep the message channel(s) clear for later use by the democratic party, to essentially protect the status quo...
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Endogenous Light Nexus
There actually is light within you
05:02 AM on 10/27/2011
You've got it nailed perfectly. HOW though?
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Robert SF
10:38 AM on 10/25/2011
It's not so much that they should be protesting in DC; it's that they should be doing more than just protesting. Protesting itself does not accomplish anything. I am very pessimistic about OWS. They seem to have no plan. If they think their protests will lead lawmakers to reform laws and Wall Street to agree to those reforms, they're very mistaken.

If they expect to have any success, they will have to organize, form a leadership, and then select, run, and elect candidates to office. Look at how effective the Tea Party has been. OWS should copy from them.
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HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR
sviolette
Cops Pepper Spraying the Constitution!!!
11:13 AM on 10/25/2011
Give 'em a call and offer your advice. There are too many telling them what they should and too few willing to help. I think they are doing just fine with no big money to back them.
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priceofliberty
Faith without questioning is not faith.
10:34 AM on 10/25/2011
"If they didn't respond to complaints from customers saying they got ripped off and lawsuits from investors, you think they give a damn about some beatniks peeing in a park?"

QFT. Which is why all true Christians should be joining this fight. "ripping off customers and investors" is not something Christians should be supporting. This is the swindling St. Paul refers to. Any one that that supports this is not really following what St. Paul said on fraud or greed.
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Gurinder Dhillon
Republicans thrive on false equivalencies.
10:25 AM on 10/25/2011
Thomas Jefferson once said that for a democracy to remain free of corruption and the tyranny of the wealthy there would have to be a revolution every 20 years; we're long overdue. We have to purge Wall Street from Washington not continue this codependency that has plagued both institutions for decades, and to do so we have to be seen; we have to be front and center. Here in Philadelphia people ask why we picketed City Hall, its because that is where businessmen come to corrupt bureaucrats for permits of all varieties, and a great deal of business is agreed upon there. The point is to be visible to put a face on the abysmal statistics we hear about America everyday on the news; people say we are an inconvenience to inner city commuting, well that's the point to make people stop and take notice that the paradigm that they live their lives in may not be the most beneficial.
09:02 AM on 10/25/2011
With Soros funding it, they will not be changing wall street to any real degree.Wall street will become their master.
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Gurinder Dhillon
Republicans thrive on false equivalencies.
09:58 AM on 10/25/2011
Soros funding it?
Where's your source on that?
He supported it verbally, not financially, at least not yet; stop spreading misinformation.
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HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR
sviolette
Cops Pepper Spraying the Constitution!!!
11:15 AM on 10/25/2011
Proof Soros is funding it?
missprissanna
the weight of the news nearly broke my back
08:07 AM on 10/25/2011
Why is this acceptable??? Small business is own their own, make it or don't there are NO incentives for us....when does this end? Welfare for the wealthy will break us long before welfare to the poor.

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - People will gather with signs outside of City Hall this evening during a protest planned against Jacksonville's J.P. Morgan Chase incentives package.

The company has asked the city for $250,000 to create 250 jobs by the end of 2012. According to city documents, the state would match those funds with a contribution of $1 million.

Chase already employs 3,800 people in the Jacksonville area. Each of the 250 jobs they plan to create would have an average salary of $53,000 plus benefits. The city estimates that will put $16.6 million into the local economy each year.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/rss/article/223961/3/Should-City-Pay-Chase-250000-for-More-Jobs
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HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR
sviolette
Cops Pepper Spraying the Constitution!!!
11:18 AM on 10/25/2011
Chase can't afford to pay their employees?
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XtfrM2
Home to the best hyperbole in the world.
08:06 AM on 10/25/2011
The people always win. Always.
Shesme
My micro-bio will no longer be silent
09:09 AM on 10/25/2011
Yes, but sometimes it takes too long.
07:58 AM on 10/25/2011
Interesting in that... the worst of the worst violators of our finances and the biggest thieves...
Banks,
Wall Street (which literally OWNS Washington)
Hedge Funds,
Corporations (GE) especially GE,
Hollywood elites,
are all best friend's and constantly being romanced by the total of our Government,
from The President right through the ranks of Congress and the Senate, for their wealth
and funding, friendship and support. Support to continue to screw us over.

The 99% are being had by Washington... not the individual financial institutions.

To me, it would make a lot more sense to occupy the National Mall and
go after the ENABLERS.

Have a good day, y'all.
Shesme
My micro-bio will no longer be silent
09:13 AM on 10/25/2011
Wall St. bought Washington DC. Protesting on Wall St. is symbolic and that's the reason the occupy movement is based there.
There is an occupy protest in DC. In fact, there are occupy protests in all major cities at this point, and a lot of smaller ones. With current global telecommunications, protests anywhere can be viewed anywhere. People can make videotapes and text messages and photos from any city and these can be viewed in any other city. This is what is happening.
My question to you is, why don't you know this?
01:31 PM on 10/25/2011
I'm talking focus.
Not throwing anything anywhere.

One voice, one target.
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Bobbie Jo Justice
07:35 AM on 10/25/2011
save america, ELIMINATE WALL STREET

get rid of a bank today
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beerbagger
12-pack of genius
06:39 AM on 10/25/2011
OWS is should have OKS (Occupy K Street) precinct too. Sorta wonder if any real Wall St. money has been put into companies that manufacture & sell: Blue tarps, cardboard and bongos.
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eaarth2
“An era ends when its illusions are exhausted
05:35 AM on 10/25/2011
OWS is putting a notice out that business of the last 30 years which has created a wealth gap that is not sustainable. If business as usual continues, and reform efforts are ignored- much larger and draconian change will come down the road- that will make FDR's reforms of the mid 1930s look mild in comparison.
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cobry4949
cobry1112
04:20 AM on 10/25/2011
you want to fix AMericas woes BAN lobbying that is true terrosim, put term limits on all polticians 2 temrs and your out
03:32 AM on 10/25/2011
The Occupy Wall Street Now (OWN) is on the right track in terms of developing a philosophy, and, in time, OWN will coalesce around a central idea. At the same time, it will have to give more thought to strategy. The present strategy of amassing at a central point harkens back to the Napoleonic wars. OWN must look to more recent skirmishes for examples of effective assertiveness. History and present days events illustrate the effectiveness of guerrilla/freedom fighter strategies. OWN does not have either the foot soldiers or the economic resources to wage a full scale war. Its effect will have to be at the local level where it can have success in reframing the prevailing social contract and enrolling the citizenry in the quest.
05:09 AM on 10/25/2011
OWS is a waste of time.
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Bobbie Jo Justice
07:36 AM on 10/25/2011
it's right on, and it's time to eliminate the too big to fail banks in this country, they are a bunch of thieves.
03:21 AM on 10/25/2011
It does seem like DC is the place to go. That's where the laws were/are made that got this country and world into the mess that it's in. Obviously the lawmakers that do their thing in DC are on some kind of puppet string or something that are held by the Wall St corporate entities, but the DC folks can cut them if they choose. They should do that while they can before things get messier, because they will. Wall St folks, do not underestimate the power of the people! Same to all the law makers in DC! Look what happened in Egypt, Libya, etc. ! You think that can't happen in the United States? I certainly don't want to see it, but it might happen if things don't change!