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Stock Market Plunge: Storm Cloud In The Shape Of Timothy Geithner

Posted: 08/04/11 05:15 PM ET

Maybe the stock market freaked out at the talk that Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner is sticking around for more.

Stock market movements are, of course, like the shapes we see in the clouds. You can tell whatever story you like, assign whatever characteristics seems fitting, and no one can prove you wrong. But what is clear about the 513-point dive suffered by the Dow Jones Industrial Average on Thursday is what it most certainly was not: An affirmation of the happy state of the economy, or a vote of confidence that those in power in Washington have a plan to improve our national fortunes.

Whatever the market had on its mind, it was not happy about it. Recent days have featured a ceaseless barrage of uncomfortable data attesting to an abrupt slowdown on the American factory floor, the resumption of a pullback in consumer spending and fresh claims for unemployment insurance at a level that suggests continued retrenchment.

And the glum sense of stagnation seems to stretch on as far as the horizon. Of most immediate concern: the government's report on the July job market, to be released Friday morning. Most economists expect a slight improvement from the last couple of months, with the economy adding somewhere in the order of 100,000 net jobs. But that is not enough to absorb even new entrants to the labor force, let alone sufficient to dislodge the sense that the economy has no engine for growth.

Longer-term, prospects appear awful, with serious economists now debating the likelihood of a double-dip recession, and some assuming that a Japan-style Lost Decade may now be an inescapable experience.

Earlier in the week, as President Obama assented to slash government spending to trim the federal budget deficit, Treasury Secretary Geithner said this would restore "confidence" to the market, indulging a word with mystical powers among econ-geeks. But the Confidence Genie has yet to emerge from the bottle, and the market keeps recoiling. The less mystical factors are too big to ignore: Not enough Americans have money to spend, making government a crucial source of what spending takes place. And the government just agreed to take $2 trillion-plus out of the economy over the next decade.

In some sense, the economic population has been consolidated. Workers and consumers were once two separate groups of people. Until the Great Recession, spending and wages traveled on two different tracks. Even if your wages were inadequate to finance your needs and desires -- electronic gadgets, groceries, education for your children -- there were other ways to make the payments, not least borrowing against your home. But in a time when being underwater does not mean enjoying the shore, workers and consumers are now the same people. And worker-hood is generally not a great place to be these days -- not with hours getting cut and anxiety about layoffs again on the rise.

This is something that employers clearly understand, hence their unwillingness to hire.

The question is whether anyone in Washington understands this dilemma, or is willing to focus on it in place of pandering to the usual interest groups as the 2012 presidential election jockeying takes shape. Austerity is the recipe for Republicans trying to argue that they cut spending and made the government smaller. Austerity is the ransom the administration just paid to prevent the Republicans from triggering an American default.

Or maybe it's much simpler than all that. Maybe investors woke up on Thursday, read in The New York Times report that Geithner is apparently staying and decided to put their cash in Mason jars.

If Washington operated anything like the rest of the world, Geithner would be, as they say, pursuing his other opportunities in the private sector. As a primary architect of economic policy in the White House, he carries the stench of abject failure. He bet that protecting banks would put them in a magnanimous mood, and they would distribute capital to the real economy. This was the logic of a housing rescue program that has done little to help homeowners, while enabling banks holding second mortgages to pretend they still hold value, evading the necessary write-offs. Geithner has carried the torch on deficit reduction, a strategy that has failed to restore confidence anywhere -- certainly not in the realm of household finances, and apparently not in high finance either.

This is the story that seems to emerge from the rout in the marketplace on Thursday: Even the people who control money have figured out that the real economy has some influence over that pursuit. If no one can afford to buy anything, then there is less money to be made.

And the people in charge of the government seem either unwilling to change, intellectually bankrupt or -- much like the rest of the country -- too shell-shocked to figure out what to do next.

 
 
 

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05:37 PM on 08/07/2011
"If Washington operated anything like the rest of the world, Geithner would be, as they say, pursuing his other opportunities in the private sector. As a primary architect of economic policy in the White House, he carries the stench of abject failure. He bet that protecting banks would put them in a magnanimous mood, and they would distribute capital to the real economy. This was the logic of a housing rescue program that has done little to help homeowners, while enabling banks holding second mortgages to pretend they still hold value, evading the necessary write-offs. Geithner has carried the torch on deficit reduction, a strategy that has failed to restore confidence anywhere -- certainly not in the realm of household finances, and apparently not in high finance either."

Wow.
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krm1255
Facts are not negotiable
10:43 PM on 08/06/2011
I don't like Geithner, but if he leaves, the Republicans won't approve anyone to replace him. So the question is are we better off with him or with no one in the job?
11:40 AM on 08/06/2011
Whats sad is ..many of us knew this was going to happen ...why? because we have common sense. No more tax payer money left to prop up Wall Street and make it look better that it actually was / is...no more bail outs for Wall Street and the Banks ...Geithner this is yours.....welcome to what you've created...compliments of the Obama Administration and lack of leadership.
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AZreb
equal-opportunity Independent heathen
10:28 AM on 08/06/2011
"Governemnt Sachs" Geithner has not received a big enough offer from one of his buddies in the big financial institutions yet.
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spoonbill1963
01:46 PM on 08/05/2011
I like Geithner. Hwe knows how to play the game.
12:48 PM on 08/05/2011
Geithner is just doing what the boys tell him to do. Otherwise, they wouldn't let him play in their realm. He's plenty smart enough to make decisions that would help with our current debacle, but he doesn't want to upset the apple cart, now does he! Someone is making big $$$$$ from our current situation. Who? Just follow the money . . . Who has liquid cash to buy up stocks at the bottom? Banks? Multinational corporations? Our own Congress & President? Those who hold all liquidity at this point in time shall reap the most benefit from a near global depression. They will own everything . . .
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spoonbill1963
01:47 PM on 08/05/2011
Well, I've made a few bucks. Obama has made me some big money since he took office so I'm willing to over look his deficiencies.
jhNY
Mercy.
12:44 PM on 08/05/2011
Maybe the market tanked because we're at the end of the latest Quantitative Easing, and now that austerity is the declared two-party policy, those who gamble daily in the markets have concluded that this round of easing may well be the last, which will take much of the air out of the latest bubble they've been living in-- so they got out, a lot of them, and took a goodly portion of everybody else's 401k money with them.
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lOstsOulsrembrd11
I am: MLK,TROY DAVIS,EMMET TILL,MEDGAR EVERS/99%
12:32 PM on 08/05/2011
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/05/us-crisis-traders-idUSTRE7742ER20110805

Wonder who(m) are making a killing buying...........O O O O...........why has tho(U) forsaken us?
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Carolyn Robins
04:49 PM on 08/07/2011
Eric Cantor, for one. I read he invested against U.S. Treasuries. A happy weekend for him.
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ycr
12:19 PM on 08/05/2011
It still boggles ones mind O would appoint a tax cheat as Treasury Secretary. But then again it's the Obama administration.
jhNY
Mercy.
12:55 PM on 08/05/2011
No fan of Geithner's, but really, it boggles your mind? He was the head of the Fed in NY, and was a part of the Rubinite gang that has steered too much of US economic policy under Democrats for too long.

But GWB appointed Hank Paulson to head the Treasury, a mere 18 months after he headed Goldman-Sachs, the chief source of blackmail mischief and bets against the US economy in the period leading up to the Firestorm of 20008. Somehow, Hank didn't really know much all the derivative and exotic financial instrument shenanigans that happened at G-S under his watch, and didn't really know, though he called his former workplace all the time, that the company had bet against its clients and shorted real estate after selling real estate paper to everybody in the world they could persuade to buy. The he arranged for G-S to get paid off 100 cents on the dollar when things got out of hand by making AIG whole. Now that's some big-time cheating!

Hard to get worked up about Geithner and his amended tax returns-- especially since he paid in full. Paulson, on the other hand, having facilitated a massive con on the government for his old company, is living large, and fears no indictment.
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ycr
01:05 PM on 08/05/2011
Doesn't change the fact he is a failure and a tax cheat. This whole administration is a failure, and we are sinking faster than the Titanic.
12:59 PM on 08/05/2011
Fanned and Fav'd ycr: I agree exactly. Obama is such a disappointment, thanks for the post.
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Mary Blickhahn
Is this really the best we can do?
11:31 AM on 08/05/2011
I do not like Tim Geithner! He has pushed many super secret deals with the banks that have given them huge advantages over the consumers and permission to rip us off. These deals should have gotten the White House in far more trouble then they have. But to blame current market conditions on squarely on Geithner"s shoulders is a bit preposterous, but is he innocent, hardly no! The fact that the illegal deals being made by the White House the senate,and congress against the average citizens is catching up to them and creating some negative consequence is no surprise. Seriously what do all you people think? Did you think there would be no repercussion for all this nonsense? Well there is, and this should be just one of many.
11:16 AM on 08/05/2011
Although I do feel Mr. Geithner has made some mistakes, who hasn't in the past few years? Blaming Geithner solely for this mess is somewhat irresponsible. There was quite a mess there to start out with, and the ongoing obstructionist tactics have not helped the situation.
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Level7
Not the book
11:44 AM on 08/05/2011
Geitner is clearly inept or he's a liar or both.
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spoonbill1963
01:47 PM on 08/05/2011
Not so loud.
04:56 PM on 08/05/2011
Let's assume Geithner is going to leave, and we need a replacement. What should we look for in the generic replacement?
Someone who is unattached to any lobby activities, not close to Wall Street or the banks, understands the importance of derivatives on the domestic and global economies, who has real world experience and not simply theory? Where will we find this person?
11:06 AM on 08/05/2011
pete...make sure you look into the camera when you're on air. it's a little distracting to watch you keep looking to your right or whatever. other than that, good job the other day.
10:47 AM on 08/05/2011
Please - things are tanking around the world. Lame attempt to blame it on Geithner. He either did too little or too much, according to all the faux-economists out there. The Republican Party has just attempted a kamakazi run on our economy (as Tom Toles pointed out today: the Repubs tried to trash Health Care as it lent UNCERTAINTY to the market - and then they promoted that very same UNCERTAINTY with their coup attempts over raising the deficit cap), and you blame the guy trying to keep it all together?
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StJames
In absentia luci tenebrae vincunt
11:49 AM on 08/05/2011
Faved. 

  I can't stand it when someone tries to pander to an audience rather than telling it like it is.  I don't know Goodman's bona fides, but I am not impressed with his analysis.    The current sell off is based on the turmoil in European banks, many failed their stress tests, most are under capitalized, nations totter on the edge of default and the EU is not structured to do anything like TARP.  The bond market appears to be predicting a second global recession...these things are not due to Geithner or his perceived shortcomings.
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Bobzmcishl
10:41 AM on 08/05/2011
I doubt Geithner is the sole reason for the recent market disturbances. I attribute it to the exhibition the U.S. Congress put on for the world to see. That was the reason I pulled out of the market last week. Whether it was economic terrorism and I think it was, it was a scary enough scenario to make me sell off and some of my friends also. Watching and listening to the Tea Party Congressmen was frightening on two counts: (1) their bizzaro views and (2) the fact they could get elected. I am not a fan of Geithner but he and Mr. Obama were at least the adults in the room trying to prevent a complete economic meltdown. The Republican's were playing with fire and I don't want to see that happen ever again.
01:35 PM on 08/06/2011
Right...Obama and Geithner were the adults in the room. I've never once witnessed an adult grace the halls of the White House or Capitol Hill.
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MDCA
I love America.
10:03 AM on 08/05/2011
What kind of hold does Geithner has on every president that occupies the WH that no one is able to get rid of him?
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10:23 AM on 08/05/2011
Geithner and the Prez answer to the same authority. The Prez is really not in charge.
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spoonbill1963
01:48 PM on 08/05/2011
You got that right.