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Muslims Combating Islamism: Exercising the Bare Minimum of Faith in an Age of Political Correctness

Posted: 07/12/2012 3:52 pm

There were many reasons why, when called to do so, I testified in the investigative hearings held by the House Committee on Homeland Security examining radicalization within the Muslim American community.

I testified because, as an anti-Islamist Muslim, I believe exposing a wrong is the bare minimum of my faith. I testified because I have seen the full spectrum of radicalization: from silent approval, to overt sympathies for Islamist ideologies, to the end point of suicidal violence among Pakistani child militants. But most of all, I testified because of my patients here in New York.

At Winthrop University Hospital in Mineola, I am part of a team that attends the World Trade Center First Responder patient population of Nassau County. Long Island is home to 6,000 of the nation's 40,000 first responders, many of whom feel long forgotten by America. Each year, Winthrop cares for 2,500 of these Americans, relieved of the financial burden of their health costs by the James Zadroga bill, spearheaded by Congressman Peter King, R-N.Y., who is also chairman of the Homeland Security Committee.

Rescuers by profession, my patients are members of the NYPD, the FBI, the FDNY, the New York Federal Crime Bureau and other law enforcement agencies. Some are retired, others still work and many are now disabled because of their service to our nation. Sadly, these Americans have granted me painful insights into the indiscriminate burden of radical Islamist acts, insights to which few will ever be privy.

I thought often about these men and women when I visited Pakistan this spring to see "Sabaoon," a school in the Northwest Frontier town of Malakand. There, working with a highly skilled mental health team, Dr. Feriha Peracha deprograms Pakistani child Taliban operatives by rebuilding their psyches.

One boy stands out in my memory in particular. Dressed in a brand new cricket strip, sporting Pakistan's bottle-green "Boom Boom" jersey popular nationwide and glowing from the match he had just played with other Sabaoon students, he looked much as my own brothers did at his age -- active, animated and well looked after.

Later, I learned he was hoping to join a cricket academy to pursue his passion. But within moments, the illusion of confidence fell away as this 18-year-old boy described to me his seduction into, and near annihilation by, the Pakistani Taliban. Speaking to me in Urdu, the account was unnervingly intimate.

He was 15 when it began, the eldest of five, and the son of a father who supported the family with his meager earnings at a small government post. He lived in a four-roomed mud-walled house with his siblings and parents. Gradually lured by an older Pakistani boy with tales of a purer, "more noble" Islam during his long walks to his village school, the boy soon ran away to join the Taliban, dreaming of a higher divine mission.

A Taliban scout told him that the group had purified Pakistan of drugs and alcohol and was leading the country toward a "purer" and "true" Islam. That message appealed to him. Convinced he was serving Islam, the boy found himself immediately relocated from concealed site to concealed site, sometimes spending nights in the open air in Pakistan's harsh but beautiful Swat valley, other times being sequestered in squalid hostels and other such markaz (centers). He never spent more than one night in each locale. This situation made it nearly impossible for his family to find him, and stopped him from making new friends who might influence him away from the Taliban.

He participated in minor missions at first, and then major ones. But it wasn't until he expressed homesickness one Eid holiday and a desire to see his mother that his career as a leader among Taliban was redirected into becoming a suicide operative. The boy was too much of a risk should he break away and become an informer.

He talked about his tarbiyyat, or religious training, in detail. I imagined rote memorization of the Quran. Instead, he learned the correct use of a handgun, the deployment of a grenade and the successful detonation of a suicide jacket. He even had training in rocket launchers, AK47s and LMGs (light machine guns). As I sat opposite him, he carefully demonstrated this knowledge to me, miming the relevant gestures to me, a novice when it comes to weapons. He explained the strategy behind his training: that when approaching his final target, he may be confronted by a police officer and would have to fend him off with his pistol. Law enforcement thus dispatched, he knew to throw the grenade, kept at arm's length in his shalwar (trouser) pocket, into a packed crowd, and, as he watched the crowd flee from the grenade, he would then run into the same panicked masses as he detonated his suicide jacket, achieving maximum carnage.

Finally, he described his ultimate surrender moments from detonation in a local Shiite mosque. As he entered and assessed the surroundings of Muslim men in prayer, he recognized these people. His targets "were Muslim too," he said. He suddenly feared for his own spiritual salvation. His voice lowered as he explained the relief he felt when he turned himself in to the lone, unwary police officer nearby and revealed his weapons. He endured a vicious beating to the heart with the butt of the policeman's rifle and then months of detention by Pakistan's secret police, the ISI.

Though he had given himself up some years earlier, seduced by the Islamist narrative at the age of 15, I discovered he had already wrought extraordinary destruction.

He had participated in a previous attack that killed five Pakistani Frontier Corpsmen and had helped kidnap 11 others in a raid on a military camp. The Taliban took the hostages. He had been part of a separate raid in which more than 100 people from a local tribal court were executed.

Americans Susceptible

The King investigative hearings on radical Islam showed how the same narratives that drove the young Pakistani to violence are alive in the United States today, thriving amid similarly vulnerable, disconnected and indoctrinated youth. Such Islamist radicalization is ongoing in our civilian, military and prison community, as repeated findings from the investigative hearings have uncovered.

Unfortunately, where there should be uproar and carefully targeted actions in response to these critically important findings, we remain mired in political correctness by refusing to identify our enemies' driving ideology.

Islamists distract the discussion from the root of the problem by focusing our attention on what they call "Islamophobia," arguing that the world is using a broad brush to describe Muslims.

Attorney General Eric Holder demonstrated this pandering in his May 2010 testimony before the House Judiciary Committee, when he attempted to discuss failed Times Square bomber Faisal Shahzad's potential motives, while avoiding the term "radical Islam." Holder's agonizing dance around the issue demonstrates just how difficult it has become to talk about the ideology fueling so many terror plots, now that the highest levels of government have banned any discussion of the role of radical religious interpretation. While political correctness may be cloyingly comfortable, reassuring even, it can prove all too deadly, as testimonies in these investigative hearings on radical Islam have shown.

In one of the House radicalization hearings, retired Marine Corps veteran Daris Long testified how political correctness masked Islamist extremism. His son, Army Pvt. William Long, was killed in an Islamist terrorist attack on his recruiting station in Little Rock, Ark., yet the military refused to name it as such, and the shooter was tried in state court rather than on federal terrorism charges.

"The blatant masking and disregard of the facts not only endanger American citizens of non-Muslim faith but also those of Muslim heritage who do not adhere to the extremist beliefs demonstrated by a militant and political form of jihad," Long said.

Melvin Bledsoe testified to the "brainwashing" of his son -- a Muslim convert -- who murdered Pvt. Long and injured another in what I, as a Muslim, call an act of terror.

"This was a Jihadi attack on infidel forces," Carlos Bledsoe, the shooter, wrote in a letter to the judge in his case.

As the politically correct rail against the sound intelligence identifying plots in evolution (and the necessary counter-measures also deemed politically incorrect), they collude with the violent and non-violent Islamists in their foil as Muslims. Masquerading as the "peaceful" translators and "owners" of Islam, Islamists exploit political correctness and, by brandishing the charge of Islamophobia, deter vital scrutiny.

Most recently, pseudo-advocacy groups purportedly representing mainstream American Muslims lobbied the Obama administration to "sanitize" intelligence language used within the FBI to purge references to Islam. This approach only limits debate, scrutiny and examination of Islamist ideologies, both violent and nonviolent.

Our leadership has bowed to such pressures. The 2010 Quadrennial Homeland Security Review never mentions "Islamist" or "Islamic terrorism" in 108 pages. This is in keeping with President Obama's vision, which, according to then Homeland Security Assistant Secretary for Policy David Heyman, "made it clear as we are looking at counterterrorism that our principal focus is al Qaeda and global violent extremism, and that is the terminology and language that has been articulated" by President Obama and his advisers.

In contrast, Pakistan, a nation fighting the highest prevalence of Islamist radicalization, has no such qualms. In fact, the deprogramming at Sabaoon specifically addresses religious scholarship as an area of counter extremism -- identifying and dismantling disordered beliefs and replacing them with healthy, nonviolent Islamic ideals.

This goal cannot be accomplished by shying away from religiously charged language.

Political correctness is a serious obstacle in articulating the Islamist threat here in the United States. Refusing to accurately name it will not make the threat go away. Simplifying complex ideas distilling political Islamism and Islam into one sensitive taboo, rather than building clarity, inflames sentiments and drives polarity.

In this climate, Muslims like me -- those who accept Islam yet revile Islamists -- are rendered voiceless. I am not alone in my practice of Islam, an Islam that values and cherishes other faiths as equally legitimate and, indeed, reminds the Muslim that to each believer is sent his own Law and his own Way, whether a follower of Jesus, Moses, Siddartha or others. As a Muslim, my Islam reminds me, that according to our Maker we cannot place judgment on the belief systems of fellow People of the Book. They must only judge themselves by their own laws and ways and not by the Quran.

My Islam particularly condemns the rampant exercise of violence on the non combatant civilians which includes all nonmilitary personnel, all children, women, elderly and disabled and further identifies no war as ever Holy, only just or unjust. We also understand that jihad has far greater meaning as an internal struggle for self improvement and relief of personal and community suffering than frank warfare for political or military gain. By these standards which Islam gives me, I as a Muslim can repudiate radical Islamism (which relies on the condemnation of all non Muslim elements and all Muslims who dare to balk at their extreme ideology) without wavering in my belief in Islam or failing in my duty as a Muslim.

The government's adherence to political correctness doesn't make room for this distinction because it avoids any reference to radical Islamism.

By avoiding nuance, we fuel simplification. By banning U.S. law enforcement agencies from using the word "Islamist" and other charged language that correctly identifies a manufactured fictional Islam as the origins for Islamist ideology, we have compelled our agencies to kowtow to political correctness. Even their Saudi counterterrorism colleagues, in the cradle of Islam, refer to Islamist terrorists as "Jihadists." This term implicitly identifies their ideological roots within Islam, albeit a distortion of the faith. While discourse in America is hampered by such "propriety," the Saudis, calling a spade a spade, don't stand on such futile ceremony.

Blindfolded by political correctness, we remain vulnerable. Counter warfare on ideological battlefields begins with widening the debate, both on Capitol Hill in congressional committee hearing rooms and on the nation's opinion pages which are increasingly reluctant to host this debate. Without doubt, these investigative hearings are the first public foray examining the divide between Islam and Islamism in contemporary America and as Muslims naming this divide we embrace an Islamic duty. As the Prophet Mohammed (SAW) once said:

"Whoever sees a wrong and is able to put it right with his hand, let him do so; if he can't, then with his tongue, if he can't, then with his heart. That is the bare minimum of faith."

It's that simple for a Muslim. Because I see a wrong, and because I am Muslim, combating Islamism asks me for the bare minimum of my faith, as it does for all Muslims in America if their actions are to match their words as believers in Islam.

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  • Dr. Ahmed Testifying against Islamist Terrorism to the Congressional Comittee on Homeland Security Investigative Hearings "The American Muslim Response to Hearings on Radicalization within their own Community" on June 20 on Capitol Hill.

  • The main gate to the school.

  • The inaugural plaque. The school was founded by General Kiyani but was a partnership between civilians and Pakistani military.

  • Dr. Ahmed (black shades) with Dr. Feriha Peracha. They are heavily veiled for cultural sensitivity with regard to the local customs in the Swat region of Pakistan.

  • This is where the militant told me Dr. Ahmed his narrative. The walls are lined with art therapy work by the rehabilitating militants.

  • Malakand is in an area of unimaginable physical beauty.

  • The natural beauty can be seen from within the school walls. A Pakistani flag adorns the whitewashed wall to instil a sense of national identity in place of supranational ideological associations.

This column was originally published as a special to the Investigative Project on Terrorism. Qanta Ahmed is a physician and author of 'In the Land of Invisible Women.'

 
 
 

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05:36 PM on 08/05/2012
Canada's counter strategy report, produced by the right leaning Tories, uses the words 'Islamist extremism', attributed mostly to Sunni Islamist extremism amongst others. Stirred relatively little controversy.

BBC tend to use the words 'Islamists' and 'extremists' differently (Iran, Tunisian and Egyptian govts are called 'Islamists'. Some may take issue with that as code for 'extremists'). On sect violence BBC will use 'Sunni extremists/militants', rather than Wahhabis or Salafis (except in analysis of ideology, groups or the Saudi state in a more detailed article) or Deobandis, used in Pak English dailies, even Jihadists, but mostly vanilla extremists, militants and terrorists.

There's a reactionary over-defensiveness to labels sometimes, including lunatic denials and conspiracies, to avoid association rather than focusing on the matter, which is undoing extremists. On the other hand, sadly some prejudiced folks against Muslims have abused 'politically incorrect' terms for over-reaching stereotypes and bigoted implications, as much as the Islamophobia card. Even Peter King's commission, a good idea itself and a needed inquiry, kicked off with hypocritical, political, and prejudiced pre-conceived notions and rhetoric, not from neutrality.

US Muslims can't be defensive or complacent, and must combat an ideological crisis. They don't need to however, be pandering, alarmist, apologist or back-bending to far right-wing groups or bigoted anti-Muslim sentiments for everything, who prove an existence of Islamophobia. Regardless, as unfair as it sounds, the onus is on the community to do away with the ridiculous 'only a few' cliche.
02:33 AM on 07/23/2012
The concept of life after death and heaven and hell to be Muslim extremists, terrorists and
suicide bombers. So, the result is that the fatalist desire to enter paradise has awakened the peculiar concept of Jihad and of dying in the name of Allah, which has caused them to take up the sword and cause mayhem. These terrorist groups today are, in reality, the byproduct of this teaching and concept. In any case, while these acts committed by certain ignorant and over-enthusiastic Muslims have no doubt given a totally wrong impression of the teachings of Islam.
02:14 AM on 07/23/2012
In this time and age, as for as relations between man and God are concerned, it is an area exclusive to religion and the state has no right to interfere. There is total freedom of mind and heart in the affairs of belief and profession of faith. It is fundamental right of man not only to believe in anything which he so pleases, but also to worship God or any other way of worship as dedicated by one’s religion or pagan belief. As per Jinnah’s vision about democracy of Pakistan and the role of religion and state, he speaks of statecraft equally applicable to Christians, Hindus, Bahais, Buddhists, Jains, Kalasha, Parsis, Sikhs, and Shias, Ahmadis Muslims sects including Islamails, Bohras.
02:08 AM on 07/23/2012
The real forces at work are not truly and essentially religious in character, why single out “Islamic” whenever terrorist forces are at work today in Muslim groups or countries? Those powers responsible for the prolongation of the Iraq-Iran war by ensuring a constant supply of arms cannot escape their responsibility for the immense waste of life, property and indescribable human suffering that has resulted from it. Whatever their ulterior motives may have been, they will only political superpowers to survive longer.
02:05 AM on 07/23/2012
Islam is as closely related to terrorism as light is to darkness or life is to death or peace is to war. They do come into contact with each other, of course, but from directions diametrically opposed. They are found grappling with each other but never walking hand in hand happily together. However, one cannot deny that on many occasions some Muslims are found involved in terrorist activities either on behalf of a group or on behalf of a country with a predominately Muslim population.
02:00 AM on 07/23/2012
Pakistan is a country that was exclusively obtained in the name of Islam. Today, it is exclusively being used to eradicate Islam. In the entire world it is the only country that was brought into being for the Kalima, Unity of God. Today, unfortunately this the very country that is bent upon erasing the Kalima. Every such action in their entire world is being carried out there. Ahmadi Muslims are enduring all sorts of hardship and tortures from the hands of extremists, from the hands of militants, from the hands of terrorists, from the hands of the Government and from the hands of law enforcement agencies. Ahmadi Muslims who have not suffered the adversity of imprisonment are also living a life of extreme anguish. They are being treated ruthlessly and are deprived of their basic human rights - it all has made their lives unbearable. Wars are enormous calamities. With the human progress wars are getting deadlier. Civilized behaviours is the basic condition of civilized people. However, transgression and brutality is shown in wars by the so-called civilized countries, because their civilization is superficial and is not built on the foundation of religion.
01:58 AM on 07/23/2012
What about “Terrorism” in Pakistan? The situation in Pakistan grows worse for the religious minorities on a daily basis. The security and law and order situation has become so chaotic that the authorities seem to have no interest in providing protection to these minorities. The militants Muslim leaders (Mullahs) have a free rein and relentlessly exploit the blasphemy laws for their personal political interests and these laws were legislated to debilitate and undermine universal human rights. Members of all faiths have been victims of these merciless violations of human rights including Christians, Hindus, and even Shiites. However, the main focus of brutality is the Ahmadi Muslims and the killings of Ahmadis is not considered a crime by the state and the law of the land.
01:55 AM on 07/23/2012
No one who has even a remote understanding of modern warfare can imagine a real threat from so-called “Islamic” militancy. Of course, there is danger in these growing tendencies and one is bound to be perturbed by them. The danger from “Islamic” militancy is a threat to the world of Islam itself; it is an inward-looking threat which is destroying the peace of Muslims everywhere. All the intolerance, narrow mindedness and bigotry which we observe in the Muslim world today is playing havoc with the peace of the Muslim world. Alas!
01:51 AM on 07/23/2012
When we examine so-called “Islamic Terrorism”, we discover political forces working behind an Islamic façade. More often then not, the real manipulators and exploiters are not even Muslim themselves. Let us turn to some particular illustrations of terrorism in order to diagnose the underlying the maladies. For instance, The Iraq-Iran war throws some light on the nature of explosive events in a part of the world of Islam. Both countries claim to be Muslim purport to draw their inspiration for hating, destroying, and annihilating each other from the sacred name of Islam. All the soldiers who died in the battle on the Iraqi side were applauded as a great martyrs by the Iraqi media. All the Iranian soldiers who died at the hands of the Iraqis were condemned as infidels dispatched straight to hell by the Iraqi media. Exactly the same story was repeated in reverse day in and day out on the other side of the border in Iran. Whenever an Iraqi soldier was bayoneted to death the battlefield resounded with the cry of “Allaho Akbar” (God is the greatest). On which side was Islam? One wonders!

Are these slogans real or they mean anything? All this demonstrates the hollowness of these slogans. Iraqi and Iranian soldiers who laid down their lives for an apparently noble cause were duped by their leadership. Islam was neither here nor their. During the war, the teachings of Islam were ignored by the warring nations.
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06:42 PM on 07/16/2012
Very well written News Article by Qanta Ahmed, MD.

I been saying for years now that Political Correctness is killing this country.
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Qanta Ahmed
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08:39 PM on 07/19/2012
Thank you so much @Justavoicehere. I couldn't agree more, fear, combined with misplaced political correctness suffocates the discussion and limits debate
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11:33 AM on 07/16/2012
Peace. People often go the easiest route. It takes more energy to deal w/ things on a case by case basis than to categorize. Generalizing also leads to black & white thinking, the inabliity to take in the entire continuum. A closed mind takes the easiest route. The open mind challenges ego's pride at "knowing" and "being superior to someone else".

I defend my Islam because my Islam opens my heart to all creation. I acknowledge there are things I don't understand about Islam; it keeps me humble. I know there many things are difficult to understand and sometimes seeking is more important than finding.

The soul, trapped in a body on earth, is susceptible to all sorts of weaknesses. Sometimes the body lures ppl toward violence in religions, on city streets, behind closed doors where domestic violence occurs, in organized crime and even people who love each other.

As they say, "there but for the grace of God goes I." And they also say that if we recognize the criminal's inner child, we see "something" set them on the wrong path. perhaps abuse, poverty, ignorance, genes, addiction or mental illness.

The jihad Muhammad called most important is to struggle w/ ego's desire to feel superior, to return insult, to succumb to road rage, etc, rather than contribute to Greater Good.
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12:53 AM on 07/17/2012
> The jihad Muhammad called most important is to struggle w/ ego's desire to feel superior, to return insult, to succumb to road rage, etc, rather than contribute to Greater Good.

Muhammad clearly called for these sinful human deficiencies not to be suppressed or countered, but simply to be directed or channeled outside the umma where they can do no harm to Allah's people. Slavery is wrong -- but enslaving non-Muslims is permitted. Murder is wrong -- but murder of "apostates" is legal. Massacring people is definitely not right -- but since "persecution is worse than slaughter," it's OK to "slaughter" people who "persecute" Muslims (however "persecution" may be definted). And so forth.
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09:47 AM on 07/17/2012
Have you read intensely researched sources (ie Martin Lings' Muhammad biography)?

Muhammad's pbuh sword was inscribed- Forgive him who wrongs you; join him who cuts you off; do good to him who does evil to you; and speak the truth even if it be against yourself.

Read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_slavery

Jesus pbuh unfortunately never spoke out against slavery. Slave owners had no Biblical interference

Muhammad encouraged slaves even if it meant buying them to do so. Living in a society where slavery was deeply embedded, he could not end it, but he taught: 'Your slaves are your brethren upon whom Allah has given you authority. So, if one has one's brethren under one's control, one should feed them with the like of what one eats and clothe them with the like of what one wears. You should not overburden them with what they cannot bear, and if you do so, help them (in their hard job).' "

Muhammad himself freed a slave who chose to become his adopted son. A freed slave made the first adhan. Many American slaves were Muslim (so many African Americans have become Muslims).

Many non-muslims lived in the umma & were allowed to practice their religion (even pagans) including laws based on their own beliefs.

Sadly, both Muslims and Christians have resorted to violence and forcing/manipulating others to take their religion not so much for spiritual reasons, but for political gain.

God bless.
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08:41 PM on 07/19/2012
@mustbelove Well said. Generalizations are dangerous but sheltering actionable problems including deviant non violent and violent Islamism under the shelter of fearing generalizations is even more dangerous and we have to confront our problems with both the precisions of language and the precisions of a discriminating public debate, separating facts, and political science from lay assertions based on generalizations.
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09:44 PM on 07/15/2012
The best column I have ever read in HP and one that makes perfect sense. Thank you
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08:42 PM on 07/19/2012
@Alex0393 thank you so much but what about this column so affected you and how would you like to advance the public debate on this issue.
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05:45 PM on 07/15/2012
A modern, nonviolent, tolerant, non-literalist, New World, 21st century, Gay-friendly, completely westernized, United Church of Christ version of Islam with ordained women imams that has only symbolic and sentimental connections to Muhammad and the Qur'an is just what the world needs.

An Islam that is just as embarrassed and offended by the early Caliphs and their wars, as most Christians are embarrassed and offended by the Spanish Inquisition, will be a worthy contribution to humanity. It can't come soon enough.
06:17 AM on 07/16/2012
Yeah because an "offended by our own religion" Christian world has stopped the Americans and Europeans from slaughtering each other and countless millions around the world.
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08:49 AM on 07/16/2012
I assume there's some sarcasm in there but I regret that I fail to see your point.
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Talossa
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09:12 AM on 07/16/2012
A Christian who is offended by the Spanish Inquisition is not "offended by his own religion." He is offended by people manipulating religion for evil purposes. My point is that I would really like to see Muslims express that same sense of outrage over the manipulation of religion for evil purposes, and acknowledge that Muhammad himself was deeply into that sort of thing.
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11:42 AM on 07/16/2012
It exists already. And there are many of us. I worship with several groups of Muslims and Sufis. They are liberal, support lgbt marriage, gender equality, female imams, etc.. The Islamists are the squeaky wheel that often gets the oil. Muslims like Dr. Ahmed are everywhere, we just speak with softer voices.

Thank you for believing it is possible for this Islam to exist. I will tell you that I am watching the Christian community blossom with compassion in the past one or two years. The fact that the Episcopal Church now allows transgender clergy to serve is one enormous accomplishment. More than half of the Catholic community now supports blessed unions and many also support gay marriage.

They say 12/12/12 is supposed to be the end of the world, but I believe it will actually only be the end of a time where closed hearts ruled the world. Hearts are opening en masse. How beautiful Completely and awesomely beautiful!

Peace.
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12:55 AM on 07/17/2012
I wish you all the luck in the world. Do you have a website?

A majority of American Christians now support Gay equality:

http://www.hrc.org/resources/entry/religion-poll-2011

Any idea what the corresponding percentages would be among Muslims?
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04:08 AM on 07/15/2012
The important building blocks for our much needed global house of Democracy & Human Rights (like justice, equality and tolerance) can all be found in the Qur’an and the Prophet. It’s therefore the more disappointing that most modern day Islamic scholars have been unable or unwilling to contribute to its construction.
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01:41 AM on 07/16/2012
`` It’s therefore the more disappointing that most modern day Islamic scholars have been unable or unwilling to contribute to its construction.``

I fully agree..... But why is it so ? ...I fail to understand.
And which of these two is the more likely : `Unable` or `Unwilling` ....?
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Jelle NL
Unity in Diversity
05:34 AM on 07/16/2012
I don't have the answers either. The Islamic scholars I (somewhat) know - the ayatollahs of Iran - seem to be quite intelligent men. So I'm afraid that it has more to do with holding on to power, rather than driving a car while constantly looking in the rear mirror.
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11:30 AM on 07/16/2012
“`` It’s therefore the more disappointing that most modern day Islamic scholars have been unable or unwilling to contribute to its construction.``

I fully agree..... But why is it so ? ...I fail to understand.
And which of these two is the more likely : `Unable` or `Unwilling` ....?”
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How many different Islamic scholars or movements are you familiar with?
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mustbelove
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11:47 AM on 07/16/2012
There are quite a few Islamic scholars who are contributing to the gentle Islam you speak of. Some are authors on Huffington Post. (Omid Safi, Kabir Helminski, Llewellyn Vaughn Lee). Also check out scholarly authors like Amina Wadud, Sayyed Hussein Nasr, Sheikh Nur Al-Jerrahi, Camille Helminski, Edip Yuksel, Fethullah Gulen.
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Talossa
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01:00 AM on 07/17/2012
Don't get me wrong -- I think this is a wonderful and positive development. But I would really like to see someone's perspective acknowledging just how much of a violent, radical break this is with the conduct of Muhammad and his closest companions, the ones who stamped out all religious competition in Arabia by bloody force and then carried Islam by the sword as far as the Loire Valley and the Himalayas.

At least in Christianity we can point at a pre-political, pre-Constantinian "golden age" where for three centuries Christians were a harmless persecuted minority who won over the great thinkers of their time through moral example and appeals to fairness. There is no pre-political, pre-imperial, pre-violent "golden age" of Islam preceding the wars of Muhammad and the conquests of the Caliphs.

A helpful, non-violent Christianity is simply a return to the roots. A helpful, non-violent Islam seems to me to necessitate the creation of a brand new religion.
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12:15 AM on 07/18/2012
> The more I try to share about my perspective on Islam, the more you attack my beliefs.

I am trying to get a straight answer about historical events and how they are interpreted by liberal Muslims. If liberal Muslims still believe that (for example) the Islamic conquest of Iran and the eventual extermination of Zoroastrianism were both positive and good things in keeping with the high ideals of divine truth, then I don't believe that liberal Muslims are in any serious way liberal.

I am trying to find out if there really is such a thing as a liberal Muslim.
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12:32 AM on 07/15/2012
This is eye opening
 QA 
. And it deserves to be widely read and taken seriously. I also appreciate the responses
 many of them thought provoking. Differential understanding of Islam is a problem that is too dangerous if unresolved. Articles like this must be written, discussed and debated threadbare 
not just on Huffington post
 but the world over and specially in all of those 60 states where Muslims live, and solutions found
. Solutions acceptable to one and all. Tolerance of all religions, by every religion, is a paramount requirement
 and must form the basis of any solution.
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Qanta Ahmed
Author, In the Land of Invisible Women, Physician,
08:44 PM on 07/19/2012
@SKSagar I couldnt agree more I find the responses in the comment forum very thought provoking and as usual am so grateful to my readers.