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Rabbi David Wolpe

Rabbi David Wolpe

 

In Israel Debate, These Jews Should Be Ignored

Posted: 02/ 9/11 04:58 PM ET

Judaism is an argumentative tradition. My Talmud teacher explained early on that if we doze off in class and are roused by a teacher's sudden question, the proper answer is always "there's a dispute." Rarely, he said, will we be wrong.

But there are limits. Jews argue from every viewpoint about tradition, peoplehood and always about Israel. But two perspectives, and their advocates, should not hold a place in public discourse. The boycotters and the expulsionists are quite simply beyond the pale.

First are those who support BDS -- the boycott, divestment and sanctions movement against Israel. These same people who anathematize Israel do not march against China for its rape of Tibet, against North Korea for its threatened obliteration of the South, against the Arab nations that have barred other religions from practice and discriminated in vicious and consistent ways against women, homosexuals and dissidents. No, they reserve their protest for a thriving, imperfect democracy that has a parliament with Arabs as well as Jews, a justice system where the chief judge in the trial condemning a former President of Israel is an Arab Israeli, where a completely unfettered press criticizes the government with vigor. Disagreeing with Israel is a time-honored tradition. Seeking to boycott it is to function as an anti-Semite. Anti-Semitism is making human faults (real and imagined) the special preserve of the Jews.

Those Jews who support BDS, or deny the legitimacy of the State of Israel, have no place at the table. They should not be invited to speak at synagogues and churches, universities and other institutions that respect rational discourse. They should have the same intellectual status as Klansmen: purveyors of hate.

Equally to be shunned are those Jews who advocate the forcible transfer of Arabs from the land of Israel. Here too there is no disguising racism in the mantle of political preference. Insisting that Arabs leave the land of Israel is ethnic cleansing, pure and simple. Though it may be advocated by means less draconian than murder, no civil hearing should be extended to those who promote it. They should no more have a place at the table -- the crazed zealots of Zion -- than the deniers of Zion. The middle -- the great, reasonable, quarreling middle -- must be permitted to thunder its standards as well. The best need not lack all conviction. We can cry "foul" to both extremes.

As someone who cares passionately for the state of Israel, I am weary of the venom poured on this solitary nation whose legitimacy must be proven again and again. After World War II convulsed the globe, no one said Germany was illegitimate. After genocide in Rwanda, Cambodia, Sudan, Congo, no one called for an end to those nations. But Israel, repeatedly attacked, is a tiny nation which has returned territory, rich valuable land, to its enemies in exchange for peace and is a vanguard in a region surrounded by those who would destroy it. Singling it out is morally repugnant: It may not be a result of anti-Semitism, but it sure quacks like a duck.

Jews who call for expulsion of others are historically ignorant and morally contemptible. How many times were Jews forcibly exiled, including from Arab lands? Jews who call for boycotts are equally benighted. Considering the sanctions levied against Jews throughout history, for Jews to be calling for the boycott of other Jews is a savage irony.

Viewpoints from left and right -- J Street on one end and the ZOA on the other -- affirm Israel's right, in common with all nation states, to exist. And they endorse Israel's fundamental quest to exist as a free and fair democracy in a perilous corner of the globe. One may dislike the angle of approach but it is one of understanding and sympathy. We have, as the prophet counseled, deep stakes and therefore a large tent; only those whose agenda is destruction belong outside.

Callous and cruel talk about the Palestinians or other Arab groups is odious. Those who preach and do evil are of course to be condemned -- the rhetorical and actual violence of Islamism should not be blunted or minimized. But it is time that Jews set clear standards for who is inside and who is outside the ring of acceptable discourse. If you support a boycott of Israel, you have invalidated yourself. If you want Israel to be free of its Arab inhabitants, we need not hear your rants. This is not a call for censorship. Everyone has the right to speak, to protest, to write and to agitate. Yet no responsible organization should dignify intellectually disreputable and morally loathsome positions. There is enough to argue about without inviting the haters into the conversation.

 
 
 
 
 
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mjc
Avoid printing any..
10:49 AM on 02/14/2011
So much of the discussion below sounds like the medieval Christian "leaders" and writers trying to decide how many angels can fit on the end of needle. Surely, there are Jews, Israelis, who know the treatment of the Palestinians is neither ethically or morally valid and should be accounted for, changed, any term you want to use; make it right.
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Ergon
Man From Atlan
12:15 PM on 02/13/2011
It's easy to condemn racists who propose the expulsion of Palestinians AFTER the fact, Rabbi, seeing as how Israel was created on the expulsion of 750,000 Palestinians in 1948, and another 200,000 in 1967.
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David Norman
Lefty Computer Geek
06:44 PM on 02/12/2011
BDS, not BSD. Dyslexia.
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David Norman
Lefty Computer Geek
06:43 PM on 02/12/2011
I thoroughly disagree with BSD, but disagree just as strongly that any Jew who supports BSD has no place in the conversation. Understanding how a fellow Jew could reach that point is an important part of understanding how Israel is being perceived in the world and why. You may find a boycott of Israel repugnant, but it is also a time-tested method of non-violent activism that is not in-and-of-itself racist or anti-semitic. If you do not include BSDers in the conversation, how are you to know why? If you do not know why, how can you argue effectively why not?

Anyone who comes to the table because they believe that Israelis and Palestinians need to find a way to co-exist peacefully and within their own mutually agreed upon nation-states has a place at that table. Anyone who believes beyond compromise that there is simply a right side and a wrong side in this dispute does not. It is a person's goals and intent that defines their legitimacy, as long as they are not violent it is certainly not their methods.
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Talab
I tot i taw a putty tat
06:52 PM on 02/12/2011
So you are saying there is no such thing as a right side or a wrong side in the debate . thats is a mighty big brush you're swinging. So at this point there is no right side and we should settle for a kinda bad solution that no one will be happy with . How does peace work then with both sides resentful
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David Norman
Lefty Computer Geek
12:48 AM on 02/14/2011
No, I am not saying that at all. I am saying that if you decide that a certain class has no "right" to take part in the debate, then it is not a debate. If you want to fight BDS one of the things you have to do is convince people it is a bad idea. Even if you cannot "convert" the person you are debating, the very debate itself can sway others. However, when you refuse to debate someone you actually give them the power both to say what they will unchallenged, and to argue that your position is indefensible - otherwise you would be willing to defend it.

You may even be able to find some middle ground, some agreement on what the problems are that are leading to the calls for BDS, and then work out more creative ways to resolve them.

Is any of that guaranteed to succeed? Of course not. But if you do not try to talk to those who oppose you the only thing you guarantee is that they will go on opposing you no matter what. Seems like an awful waste.
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06:28 PM on 02/12/2011
The man is proposing moderation. Why is everyone up in arms about that?
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Talab
I tot i taw a putty tat
06:54 PM on 02/12/2011
Excluding voices isn't moderation
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07:15 PM on 02/12/2011
He's talking about racism leading to action. Expelling Palestinians on one side, hurting the Israeli economy on the other.
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courtb
11:31 AM on 02/13/2011
Moderation isn't favored by many, sadly.
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Ergon
Man From Atlan
01:20 PM on 02/12/2011
It's easy for you to call on "responsible organizations" to consider some who call for BDS outside the pale, seeing as how you're given a platform here on HuffPo, and the other side, is not.
I wouldn't call that a debate though.
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courtb
11:33 AM on 02/13/2011
Yes, because there certainly was not an article on the HP extolling the greatness of the BDS movement in the past month...oh, wait...
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Talab
I tot i taw a putty tat
11:40 AM on 02/12/2011
If during the discussion of Israel and Judiasm there are jews that should be ignored then how do you still call it a Debate? Hasnt it become a monologue at that point
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Daleri Rileda
Jungle Jargon
10:40 AM on 02/12/2011
Bad Jews, bad Christians, bad Muslims, bad atheists, bad people do not pay listen to or obey Ruach Ha Kodesh. They are driven by the spirit of ha satan.

We need to be aware of that.

The big question is, which is which?

I supposed that would have to be determined on an idividual basis.

Boycot Israel, no.

Exclude Palestinians, only criminals, it would seem.

Israeli Palestinians and others in the area should understand where they are.

Yerushalayim has a claim by our Maker that we all need to respect and let Him do what He wants there.
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drjasonmd
Shalom, compa!
10:16 PM on 02/11/2011
I find this attempt to deligitimize and individual's right to chose how they spend their money to be quite disingenuous. Boycotts are the right of every individual to express their political will. Ask the settlers of Hebron how many of their shekels go to Arab businesses. None. In fact, they've gone so far as to have Arab businesses in H1 shut down "for security reasons" (then they paint a Star of David on the shuttered business like some kind of bronze-age territorial pissing).

You can tell a lot about the sincerity of a person when they characterize any attempt to modify the behavior of the State of Israel as "delegitimizing" the rights of Jews to self-determination.

If Israel wants to be treated as a sovereign state, it should start acting like one.
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GilGamish
Exposing the charlatans
07:16 AM on 02/12/2011
I have no problem with a financial boycott, but the BDS movement also prevents academic speech and cultural exchange. They prevent others from free speech, and their supporters are against a suggestion that we don't listen to them. You don't find that disingenuous ?
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11:56 AM on 02/11/2011
I say NONSENSE! BDS supporters can still LOVE Israel and Judaism!
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gibranII
seeking peace through equality
03:16 PM on 02/11/2011
they do
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GilGamish
Exposing the charlatans
08:53 PM on 02/11/2011
Really Sarah, Can you provide any evidence at all that any of the leaders of BDS LOVE Israel ? I The BDS movement is in favor of a one state solution which would effectively destroy Israel. How is that love ?
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drjasonmd
Shalom, compa!
10:04 PM on 02/11/2011
This meme that a one-state solution would destroy Israel is hogwash.
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Talab
I tot i taw a putty tat
05:16 PM on 02/10/2011
Is the only way the Rabbi's thesis can stand is if all disent to it is not posted These are rabbis with a different point of view . What does he say to them http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/index.htm
07:41 PM on 02/10/2011
they are a small minority of jews. Statistically insignificant, you might say
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07:59 PM on 02/10/2011
"Last week saw the latest move in the Israeli government's clampdown on those working in solidarity with the Palestinians in the Occupied Territories. Ending a decades-old policy of granting work visas to employees of NGOs operating in the region, Israeli officials are now issuing NGO workers with tourist visas instead, prohibiting them from working in areas under Israeli jurisdiction, including Area C (which makes up 60% of the West Bank) and all of East Jerusalem.

Many NGOs maintain a presence in East Jerusalem and in locations throughout Area C, and as a result of the policy change they fear having to shut up shop and relocate to towns and cities inside Area A. Once there, it appears that NGO employees will be subject to the same restrictions on entering Israel as Palestinians are currently, which would severely hamper their ability to serve the needs of the Palestinian population in East Jerusalem and in Area C."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jan/25/israel-visas-ngo-palestine
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Talab
I tot i taw a putty tat
08:47 PM on 02/10/2011
Prophet Hosea 1:6 Ö¸But upon the House of Judah I will have mercy and I will save them through Hashem their God; I will not save them with bow, with sword, with warfare, with steeds or with riders
This is from the torah, and these are jews, this is their position, and yet you call them insignificant. Maybe that's a big part of the problem
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GilGamish
Exposing the charlatans
08:56 PM on 02/11/2011
First thing I'd say to them is, why did they attend the Holocaust denial conference held in Iran ? Clearly the rabbis in your link have serious psychological issues.
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drjasonmd
Shalom, compa!
11:42 AM on 02/12/2011
The same reason atheists attend religious conferences. Somebody has to present the other side.
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MarcEdward
likes all cats more than most people
03:21 PM on 02/10/2011
those who support BDS -- the boycott, divestment and sanctions movement against Israel. These same people who anathematize Israel do not march against China for its rape of Tibet, against North Korea for its threatened obliteration of the South, against the Arab nations that have barred other religions from practice and discriminated in vicious and consistent ways against women, homosexuals and dissidents.
An assertion without evidence.
I guess if you have no argument, make personal attacks.
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TheLonelyGod
The oncoming storm
02:57 AM on 02/11/2011
If you think he's wrong, prove him wrong. Show us.
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gibranII
seeking peace through equality
03:54 PM on 02/11/2011
The logic here is people can't feel strongly aboout human rights if they only support one aspect of it.. while not having made my mind up on the divestment issues I am a memeber of mutiple groups and have supported Civil Rights, Immigration Reform. Tibet, Darfur and other World and regional campaigns and if the Israelis were oppressed by ruling government I would be ithe first to come to their aide.. so your arguments are just that.. and the same old story.. Critism against Israel is Legetimate forms of non violent expression.. what is twisted is that you are the same person that (rightfully so) critize Palestinians and Arabs in general and hardly distinguish between the moderates and radicals..
03:07 PM on 02/11/2011
Where have you seen marches against China? Where have you heard of demonstrations in the U.S. or Europe against N. Korea? Ditto for demonstrations against Syria, or Saudi Arabia? Or Turkey? Or Morocco? Or the Congo?

An assertion replete with the absence of evidence that should be there. The silence screams out the agony.
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gibranII
seeking peace through equality
06:11 PM on 02/11/2011
your kidding right ..ever been to DC or NYC... we have a habit of not marching in the heart land for issues in the world ( we should)
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QuakerJewish
Reality over myth.
02:58 PM on 02/10/2011
As long as the settlements continue to exist, I will continue to support the boycott. No Rabbi can exclude me. He has no authority to silence me or any one else.
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04:52 PM on 02/10/2011
so curious, where did u stand before the settlements? think i hve a clue.
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Nwo2012
Sue me, I boycott products from the settlements
05:25 PM on 02/10/2011
Dont be coy. Say what you think. Spit it out!
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QuakerJewish
Reality over myth.
01:42 AM on 02/11/2011
I seriously doubt you have a clue. I don't think your mindset is flexible enough to think that independently. Your responses are generally based on myth and false assumptions programmed into you. You have shown no ability to think for yourself, or to analyze the situation objectively. Have you ever even been to Israel?
05:07 AM on 02/11/2011
fanned and fav'd Quaker Jewish . . well said . . . .