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The Secret of Dreams: A Lesson From Joseph

Posted: 01/02/11 12:59 PM ET

Why is someone else's dream so tedious and one's own so gripping? Because our own dreams are vividly real to us, of course. The other person's is a fiction. In this distinction is a great spiritual lesson for the New Year.

Remember the biblical Joseph who told his brother's his dreams? He imagined that they bowed down to him, and in his second dream, that not only his brothers (disguised as stars) but his parents (as the sun and moon) bowed down to him, which sets a new standard of youthful grandiosity. As a result -- and because of his father's favoritism -- his brothers hated him. In the end they threw him in a pit and he was sold into slavery.

In Egypt Joseph wound up in prison. Among the prisoners were Pharaoh's baker and cupbearer. By interpreting the dreams of Pharaoh's servants, Joseph eventually makes his way to the court, where he interprets Pharaoh's dreams as well. As a result of his insight, Joseph becomes second only to Pharaoh in the land. So dreams got him into trouble and dreams got him out of trouble. But did you notice the difference?

Rabbi Isaac Bernstein pointed out -- Joseph got into trouble when he listened only to his own dreams. He succeeded when he learned to listen to the dreams of others.

The New Year is distinguished by dreams. Not only the dreams of the night, where our day thoughts and moods and secrets bloom in images, but the dreams of the day. As a Rabbi I am privileged to hear the dreams of others. I know each time I listen that I am enlarged by taking in another vision, another hope, one more aspiration of a seeking soul. The Zohar, the central text of Jewish mysticism, teaches that we are all "children from the chamber of yearnings." I hope this year we listen not only to ourselves -- to the echo chamber of our own dreams -- but to others.

After all, it worked for Joseph.

 
 
 
Why is someone else's dream so tedious and one's own so gripping? Because our own dreams are vividly real to us, of course. The other person's is a fiction. In this distinction is a great spiritual...
Why is someone else's dream so tedious and one's own so gripping? Because our own dreams are vividly real to us, of course. The other person's is a fiction. In this distinction is a great spiritual...
 
 
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08:53 PM on 01/07/2011
Lineal thinking keeps us from the soul. Take a 'Nut', and the [cross]ing of the 'Red Sea' by Moses. The metaphor of the Red Sea and the shell of a 'Nut' is the Carnal self. The Pharoh was our sense, or desires. The water is the symbol of the 'carnal self', or shell. When Moses crossed the Red Sea, they left their carnal self, and went in to 'The Promised Land' of illumination, or 'The Christ' like. The shell on a nut is the same 'symbolism', but what lives is the inside of the illumination, or the tree.
Dreams are the engine to our soul, or eternal self. Many can drive a car in the lineal way of thinking, but it is the soul that has the Diadem. Google: Dreams/Meaning, and begin understanding your Kundalini, and become a Neophyte no more!
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monicaangela
“Every human longs for peace and love.
05:07 PM on 01/06/2011
I love what you have said, it is true, at least I have found it to be true.  Listening to the dreams of others is a great way to learn, a great way to understand, and a great way to help others reach their goals.  Listening to the dreams of other and trying to help them make their dreams come true also adds wisdom and understanding to the listener.
01:51 PM on 01/04/2011
In attempting to comment on Joseph's dream, the Rabbi missed the mark on several points:

1. The Qur'anic report of this story (Qur'an:Surat 12) talks not about Pharaoh, but about a king of Egypt. This was not because Muhammad (PBUH) made a mistake while copying the biblical version of Joseph's story as he is often accused of doing by those who would mislead and misinform. Indeed, Pharaoh is mentioned dozens of times in other chapters of the Qur'an, especially when reporting various details about the life of Prophet Moses (PBUH). But in Joseph's story, the Qur'an repeatedly refers to a king of Egypt, not Pharaoh! Historically, during the time of Joseph, Egypt was occupied by Asian tribes called the Hexos. Their rule in Egypt interrupted the pharaonic dynasty. The Hexos referred to their rulers as kings, not as pharaohs. This information became known only after modern-time archeological digs and was not known in Muhammad's time! See http://suscopts.org/pdf/copticchurch/hx1.pdf for details.

2. Joseph succeeded only after learning that God did speak to other people (not just the chosen ones!) and that "The Truth" could reach him through someone else (the king's dream). When he opened his heart to this possibility, he became willing to act on the Truth and was put to good use by God. Furthermore, Joseph stepped forward to assist, saving untold numbers of people from famine, regardless of their ethnicity or creed.

My good Rabbi: Learn from others! Remember the Palestinians!
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09:17 AM on 01/04/2011
It's difficult to learn anything if you can't hear for the sound of your own voice.
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03:18 PM on 01/07/2011
Yeah, I don't think I ever learned anything while I was talking. Other than that I should have kept my mouth shut.
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Daleri Rileda
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06:10 AM on 01/04/2011
Yes, as a conservative fundamental Bible believing Christian, let me say that some dreams are real.

I don't blame Joseph for telling his dream. It seemed significant to him and it was. It was not his fault that no one paid attention to "the dreamer".

The real amazing thing was when the Pharaoh could not remember his dream that troubled him greatly, Joseph prayed so that he was able to have the same troubling dream which ended up saving many lives including the lives of his own brothers that had to bow down to him.

Visions and or revelations coming true are also possible. I can say that from personal experience.
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JohnFromCensornati
Free your mind and your ass will follow.
06:26 AM on 01/04/2011
Did your vision involve machine parts?
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Daleri Rileda
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06:33 AM on 01/04/2011
It was about a job that I would have one day.
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Rabbi David Wolpe
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09:21 PM on 01/03/2011
Thanks to all who commented, and to Ludwig for the reference. Whether you understand the Bible as literal or metaphorical, stories teach us, and the wisdom of the Bible, no matter its origin, is inexhaustible. Everything has changed since Joseph's time -- technology, dress, language, social structures -- except the human heart. We still dream, are confused and moved by our dreams. We still tend to ignore the dreams of others. So to all of you who, each in your way, encourage listening to one another's dreams, bless you.
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JohnFromCensornati
Free your mind and your ass will follow.
07:06 AM on 01/04/2011
"Whether you understand the Bible as literal or metaphorical, stories teach us, and the wisdom of the Bible, no matter its origin, is inexhaustible."

Teaching is not inherently good. Bad ideas can be taught. Leviticus alone is an inexhaustible source of bad ideas.
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Daleri Rileda
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09:00 AM on 01/04/2011
What do you know about a perfect society structure?
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whirlpool
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12:48 PM on 01/04/2011
Yep there is some stuff in it not worth a second look--some real junk. But there is also some classic poetry and prose. The Book of Job by itself is a classic in Western literature for a number of reasons to lengthy to discuss here.
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08:03 PM on 01/03/2011
In my dream I stood at the edge of a dried up pool where crumbling stone columns were overgrown with vines and weeds and scores of doves and pigeons nested and flew. To my right was a large shade tree, but to my left I saw a few square squat dwellings with large satellite dishes attached to them. I remembered thinking the moment I woke up from that dream what a strange place it was, but then I quickly forgot all about it.

That is, until the afternoon of June 12, 2005, four years later, when I found myself standing at the edge of a dried up pool where crumbling stone columns were overgrown with vines and weeds and scores of doves and pigeons nested and flew. To my right was a large shade tree, but to my left I saw a few square squat dwellings with large satellite dishes attached to them. What a strange place I thought, how could it be that I had seen this scene in a dream a few weeks after that day we call 9/11?

On the afternoon of my very first day in Jerusalem, I told Mother Agapia about my dream and what I had seen at the Pool of Bethsaida.

She told me about the Interfaith Peace Conference that was happening the Sunday after the Thursday I was scheduled to return to the USA. I knew I needed to attend
http://www.wearewideawake.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=579&Itemid=169
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Mag7
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06:21 PM on 01/03/2011
And I thought dreams came from eating Chinese food.
04:42 PM on 01/03/2011
from the chamber of yearnings http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/RgVeda.html
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01:48 PM on 01/03/2011
Hey Rabbi, I like your message!

Thank you.
I wish you an abundant and joy-filled new year.

Cheers
12:59 PM on 01/03/2011
What really makes dreams spiritually significant is that they need to be interpreted. (“An uninterpreted dream is like an unread letter”, says Rabbi Chisda [Berachoth 55a]) Thus they illustrate the central religious activity, interpretation. For religion is essentially a method of interpreting the world -- its meaning and its value for humans. Religious experts are often experts at interpreting texts; textual interpretation is a proxy for the interpretation of life. The interpretation of dreams stands in between the two -- between text and world, fiction and reality (for if the dream is fiction, its interpretation is always made with respect to the real life of the dreamer).

But dreams happen in private, whereas religious interpretation is public. So something must be done, and Rabbi Wolpe puts his finger on it: we need to bring the private into the public, and "listen to the dreams of others".

Long before Isaac Bernstein, his point was made by Rabbi Eleazar (also in the long and wonderful section of Talmud beginning at Berachoth 55a) in commenting on Joseph: "each of them was shown his own dream and the interpretation of the other one's dream."

The author of the Joseph story was a forerunner of Philo, Aqiva, Freud and Harold Bloom -- the greatest interpreters in history. Today the image of religion is blackened by the phenomenon of fundamentalism, which says that myths don't need to be interpreted (because they're "true"). This is the very opposite of the tradition whose mythic icon is Joseph.
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JohnFromCensornati
Free your mind and your ass will follow.
01:16 PM on 01/03/2011
"But the tortoise was invented by Aesop! It wasn't a historically factual event!"

Who exactly would believe that a race between a talking turtle and a talking rabbit was a historically factual event?

"Better stick to quantum jokes."

Better stick to apologizing for literalists.
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whirlpool
founder walnut tree congregation
01:47 PM on 01/03/2011
I like your quantum stuff so I disagree with Ludwig there. But in all fairness to Ludwig, I don't ever recall him being an apologist for literalists. He is an atheist but he does see some value in religion and religious texts if properly interpreted and understood.
02:22 PM on 01/03/2011
"Who exactly would believe that a race between a talking turtle and a talking rabbit was a historical­ly factual event?" Presumably the same sort of people who believe it about talking snakes and zombies -- the only difference being, as atheists point out day after day, that one set gets treated literally because your family indoctrinated you that way or you fell under the spell of a charismatic speaker, etc.

Your quantum jokes are jokes, right? Nothing incorrect or offensive about referring to them that way? On the other hand, my concern is always with defending NONliteralists against literalists, and I'm pretty sure you know that, so your remark is disingenuous. (No doubt you can respond with some sort of argument to the effect that defending any religion is defending all religion. Don't bother.)
11:59 AM on 01/03/2011
Wonder why "God" created SO MUCH excess cosmic baggage? look at the Hubble images;
so much unused real estate out there....q uite violent too. lots and lots and lots of inert matter
just crashing around. Also, why did he take so long to "create" man ..the universe is 13 billion yrs old
was man just an after thought or could we be the product of random events ?
Bible = Jewish folk tales
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59 *was* divine -- 60? 61? not so much
11:09 AM on 01/03/2011
Fun with Fiction!
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anewearth
Warren - Crist 2016
10:38 AM on 01/03/2011
Wonderful post, Thank you, Rabbi. I look for and appreciate these thoughts at this time of new beginnings.
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Levi Ben-Shmuel
Speaking for a Wiser Life
10:10 AM on 01/03/2011
Thanks for the post, David. A big shift for Joseph was making room in his life for others. He was able to open his heart and move out of being a self-centered spoiled child. When he shared his gifts to help strangers, the ripples resulted in saving many lives. In these hyper-partisan times, it would do us some good to be open to hear what "strangers" in our lives have to say.