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Rabbi Justus N. Baird

Rabbi Justus N. Baird

Posted: May 28, 2010 01:47 PM

Every once in a while we witness the perfect interfaith storm. It's always a combination of religion, politics, and one special ingredient, like money, scandal, or, as in this season's storm, collective memory.

This season's perfect interfaith storm is the proposed mosque and Islamic community center two blocks from Ground Zero in New York City. In a building that has lain fallow since 9/11, when one of the planes' landing gear came crashing through the roof, the project's founders hope to build an Islamic version of the 92nd Street Y, a community center and prayer space to replace a nearby makeshift mosque.

Last week, when journalists and muckrakers got wind of plans for Cordoba House, as the project is called, the borough and the blogosphere lit up with thoughtful reflection, deep emotion, and unfortunately, bigotry and character assassination.

Local politicians and the Community Board have given a clear response to the hate speech. The Community Board voted 29 to 1 (with 10 abstentions) to build Cordoba House. Mayor Bloomberg said simply, "Our city's open to anybody, no matter what your religion is."

But the deep emotional concerns about the location of Cordoba House have not yet been fully addressed. Listen carefully to their words. Patrick Bahnken, head of a paramedics union: "By no means am I saying the folks trying to build this place are responsible for 9/11, but you still have to take a hard look at it and say, how will it look to have this in your face? It's like salt in the wound - a constant reminder of what they did to us on 9/11." Mike Burke, whose brother was a fireman killed in the attacks: "I think the first concern for the families is that the religious beliefs of the terrorists who struck is going to have such a prominent place right around the corner from Ground Zero." Rosemary Cain, whose son was a firefighter killed in the attacks: "I think it's despicable, and I think it's atrocious that anyone would even consider allowing them to build a mosque near the World Trade Center ... That's sacred ground. It's a slap in the face." And from an angry participant in the May 25 Community Board meeting: "This is an insult, this is demeaning, this is humiliating that you would build a shrine to the very ideology that inspired the attacks of 9/11."

These concerns take on a special urgency on Memorial Day: how exactly can we remember and honor those who were killed? As a rabbi, I'd like to offer two things that seem to be missing from the now public discussion of Cordoba House: a pastoral voice, and a piece of wisdom from the past.

First, a pastoral voice. To some of those who lost loved ones in the 9/11 attacks, Cordoba House is a slap in the face that generates anger and disgust. In their mind, Muslims perpetrated 9/11, and now Muslims are building a shrine at Ground Zero.

These 9/11 families understand intellectually that the progressive American Muslims advocating for Cordoba House have no connection, theologically or personally, to the terror-thirsty, militant strand of Islam associated with the 9/11 attackers. Yet, for them, these two diametrically opposed groups are still connected in some way. In an honest moment, most Americans would admit that we share this feeling that all Muslims are connected. Muslim theologians would agree: the ummat al-mu'minin is the "community of believers" that make up the Muslim world. So let's acknowledge that while the followers of Cordoba House and the followers of al-Qaeda have radically different visions of Islam, they are both part of the Muslim world.

The other clear concern in these voices is that Ground Zero, and arguably the area around it, is sacred ground. My loved ones died here, they are reminding us. Be very, very careful where you walk.

But what are the boundaries of this sacred site? The architecture of the Biblical Tabernacle is instructive here. The holiest place was the Ark of the Covenant. Surrounding it was the Holy of Holies, and beyond that was the holy place with the altar, table, and lampstand, and beyond that was the outer court, and beyond that was a fence. Sacredness was safeguarded by a series of boundaries.

These voices are crying out to discuss the sacred boundaries of Ground Zero. Cordoba House is two blocks away, a three-minute walk. Is that inside or outside the invisible fence? And who determines what is sacred? To Muslims, many of whom died in the 9/11 attacks, a mosque is a deeply sacred space.

Only by acknowledging and addressing these concerns will the storm swirling around Cordoba House be abated. That's the pastoral voice. Now the wisdom from the past. It is sad but true that people around the world have experienced their own versions of 9/11. Lurking in the aftermath of the world's worst moments of murder and injustice is a precious piece of wisdom.

The International Coalition of Sites of Conscience is a worldwide network of nearly 250 places of memory that remember tragedies as well as triumphs of justice and everyday life. These sites open their spaces for people to talk openly about what happened there and their contemporary legacies.

One such Site of Conscience is Constitution Hill in Johannesburg. In the 1990s, South Africa decided to redevelop the Old Fort Prison that jailed political prisoners like Mandela and Gandhi alongside those who transgressed now-illegal apartheid laws. The Justices of the Constitutional Court deliberately chose to erect the new court in the shadow of the prison in order to learn from the history of a place that once symbolized the abrogation of justice. From the soil of terror would rise a safehouse of justice.

Before the site was redeveloped, a series of dialogues was conducted with various stakeholders, including former prisoners and guards, who described their personal experiences and talked openly about what happened there. The community's input shaped the design of the Constitution Hill complex, including a provision for office space for nonprofits to pursue justice. Without these dialogues, Constitution Hill might never have become what it is today: a place offering ongoing public discussions about how, in light of the past, justice should be defined in the new South Africa.

Another example is Memoria Abierta (Open Memory) in Buenos Aires. For decades, Argentine dictators sponsored violent kidnappings and torture. The terror claimed an estimated 30,000 lives, people who became known simply as "the disappeared." Open Memory has worked to identify hundreds of detention centers and torture sites and mark them as places that preserve memory and denounce authoritarianism. One such site, a former Naval Academy, set off a protracted disagreement among stakeholders, including different victims' groups. Open Memory held a series of forums among victims groups and state authorities, which has allowed the site to be opened in a series of smaller steps. The open dialogues continue today.

The parallel between these sites and Cordoba House is imperfect; Cordoba House is not intended to be a memorial to 9/11. Yet these stories contain wisdom: any development on or near the sacred ground of collective trauma must begin with listening and dialogue.

Cordoba House's founders have started the dialogue, which is why the local Community Board recently backed the proposal. But the dialogue needs to go broader and deeper. At a minimum it must include more families touched by 9/11 (some of whom strongly support the proposal), more nearby residents, and all of us who have trouble distinguishing a Cordoba House Muslim from an al-Qaeda Muslim.

Cordoba House should be built. Right now, however, Ground Zero has too many graves and too few relationships between Muslim-Americans and Americans of other faiths for the project to reach its full potential. By launching a series of community dialogues before the site is developed, Cordoba House can get an early start on becoming a vibrant and world-class facility that promotes tolerance and pluralism.

 
Every once in a while we witness the perfect interfaith storm. It's always a combination of religion, politics, and one special ingredient, like money, scandal, or, as in this season's storm, collecti...
Every once in a while we witness the perfect interfaith storm. It's always a combination of religion, politics, and one special ingredient, like money, scandal, or, as in this season's storm, collecti...
 
 
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03:20 PM on 07/26/2010
My concern is for the Muslims who would use Cordoba House, and may not know what to expect from the psychotic attitudes bellowing this not be built in this location.

For the safety of everyone concerned, I hope cooler heads prevail, and that Cordoba House be positioned in an area less susceptible to the threats of madmen and women.

For all Americans, Muslim and not who share the grief 9/11 has engendered, may peace and wisdom guide the ultimate outcome.
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edensaunt
09:04 AM on 07/23/2010
E Pluribus Unum
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edensaunt
09:03 AM on 07/23/2010
another way to honor the ideals of our founders and promote healing would be to have a secular community center funded by a variety of religous groups that welcomes all - let them use their tax-exempt status for good ;)
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Janetshusb
03:21 PM on 06/19/2010
Re: "no such thing as a progressive Muslim" ................ So there we are in the Dublin, Ireland airport waiting in line for our connecting flight to Manchester, UK, in front of us are two Muslim teenagers: one has on a flashy blue head scarf draped casually over a fancy short hair do, tight t-shirt and low cut jeans that she keeps hitching up because otherwise they are going to fall off. The other has one has on a brown and orange head scarf that matches her slim cut coat and has a vizor studded with metal polka dots. The jeans under the coat are equally tight and must also be low cut because she too keeps hitching them up. She has on day glo pink sneakers. Both of them have big shopping bags, both are laughing and having a great time, entirely at ease in the situation and although speaking to each other in something other than English they completely understand the instructions given over the loudspeaker in a think Irish accent. They are obviously off on an unchaperoned shopping lark. What's going through my mind is " Americans need to stop seeing Muslims in some strange terror soaked light and think of those two giggly girls in head scarfs hitching up their low cut jeans and relax a bit. There's nothing in those bags except more low cut jeans"
03:22 PM on 07/26/2010
Your words are stunningly beautiful.

There are no other words for them.
06:19 PM on 06/09/2010
I support this project. I think it is a great idea. However, my only caveat is that it should be funded entirely by American Muslims - no foreign government or group should be allowed to donate money towards it. Right now, countries like Saudi Arabia donate millions of dollars to build mosques in Western countries.

As of now, fundraising for this project hasn't started, and it seems unclear where the money will come from. According to some estimates, it will cost as much $100 million. If American Muslims are committed to this, they should put their money where their mouth is, and fund it entirely with money raised in the United States. If they make this pledge, I'll fully support this project, and I'll even send along a little contribution!
02:20 PM on 06/09/2010
sorry ...slap in the face...could you imagine the reverse happening in any Islamic country and this quote..
".These 9/11 families understand intellectually that the progressive American Muslims advocating for Cordoba House have no connection," totally untrue...
1st. there is no such thing as a progressive muslim,,,(maybe in 1000 yrs) islam doesn;t recognize it...if you don;t follow the precepts you can't really call yrself a muslim and
2. all muslims by their utter silence have connection with each atrocity commited in their religions name.
06:11 PM on 06/09/2010
What a ridiculous comment! Who are you to decide who is and is not a Muslim? If progressive and moderate Muslims want to reject the teachings of extremists and still keep their faith, what's your problem with it?

We should be encouraging and giving support to moderate Muslims as much as possible.
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01:11 AM on 06/10/2010
That is why the United States is supposed to represent something different than all the Islamic countries that wouldn't allow this, as you say. America should represent tolerance. How many Muslims have you listened to lately?All Muslims are no more alike than all Christians are alike! Come on, no one went after Christians when Timothy Mcveigh set off his massive bomb. All religions have extremists with extreme views. Respectful communication and understanding is the key to moving forward!
10:02 AM on 06/09/2010
I was so frustrated about the bias of this situation - that somehow a cultural center that is meant to educate and to heal could be considered "disrespectful", that I wrote this blog posting: http://melibeeglobal.com/2010/06/active-ignorance-at-play-the-controversy-over-building-the-cordoba-house-near-ground-zero/
Peace to all.
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02:59 AM on 06/07/2010
What if someone wanted to build a church or synagogue near ground zero? Would there be this HUGE discussion? NO. This is simply prejudice against Muslims and it isn't fair or right.
03:53 PM on 06/08/2010
Why specifically at ground zero????? I find it truly odd of all places they could build a mosque, it would be at this location. Very direspectfull. Has nothing to do with prejudice - get a clue!
02:56 PM on 06/09/2010
wake up little one
05:47 PM on 06/06/2010
Sure they can build this if they want and get the approval. Should they build it is another matter all together.
01:24 AM on 06/08/2010
Can you think of a better place to build an Islamic cultural center designed to promote tolerance and understanding than the place that was destroyed by the CIA/Mossad/"Al-Qaeda" and blamed on Muslims?
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JPalka
08:53 PM on 06/08/2010
No, that is called a victory flag... and you are disingenuous.
02:55 PM on 06/09/2010
that conspiracy theory might have held a drop of water at first but it's getting a bit old and jaded with each muslim suicide bomb that goes off since then killing innocent people...good try

Why don;t they try building it in Kabul or Baghdad and provide the US military with pool, gym and free lunches and see what kind of reception they get.
that;s called putting yr money where your mouth is.

don;t take americans (or yr priviledge of being in a "free" (relative to Islam) society) for granted

not cool
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Guy DeWhitney
Non-Partisan Pro-Liberal, Anti-theocracy Moderate
05:38 PM on 06/06/2010
The name Cordova has particular meaning to Muslims. It is part of a land they once owned and WANT BACK. In the Middle East it is an open joke that the stupid Americans don't even understand the ramifications of the name!
How about we improve relations with the Japanese by building huge Christian centers next to former internment camps...we can call it the Mariannas Initiative.
Then we can build a huge Christian church complex at Wounded Knee, and then the Japanese can build a 12 story Shinto shrine next massecre sites in Korea and China! Then the spanish can go and find the last of the native tribes in S.A. and build cathedrals next to THEIR historic massacre sites!
Let us not forget to build German Lutheran churches next to Auswitz and the like! We can call it the Lebesraum Project.
Oh, we must not forget to have the Turks build a huge Mosque complex in Armenia to build a bridge there! And of COURSE there must be a HUGE Serbian Orthodox Catherdral built in Kosovo, prefereably as close to a mass grave site as possible!! I can just see all those local Muslims with dead relatives greeting this gesture or peace and brotherhood with joy!
FEH!
http://hereticscrusade.com
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Caleb Owens
More socialism with our crappy capitalism, please.
05:10 PM on 06/07/2010
Brilliant!
01:27 AM on 06/08/2010
Perhaps you are ignorant of the fact that Spain, formerly Al-Andalus, was a Muslim country for 800 years. It was at the height of enlightenment and scientific discoveries when Europe was stagnant in the Dark Ages. It had some of the world's most amazing architecture, libraries and universities. Its citrus and orange groves were well known, especially for its neighbor, named after the orange, i.e. Portugal (from the Arabic word "Bortuqal").
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Guy DeWhitney
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01:04 PM on 06/08/2010
Oh go peddle your goods to someone who is ignorant...
1. the Islam of Spain was considered HERETICAL by the "official" authorities of the time for the very reasons it became great as a culture; and you know it! And let us not forgert that it was mainly inter-Muslim betrayals and fratricides that opened the door for the Spanish to reclaim therir land! Is there anywhere that Islam reigns that infighting amongst uslims is NOT prevalent?
2. The "glories" of your interval in Spain were financed by the native population of "dhimmis" who suffered "sporadic" "incidents" of repression, slaughter and expulsion... until the Spanish piece by piece took it all back.
3. It was Spain, and has been again for many centuries..and guess what? It's gonna stay that way if the locals have anything to say about it.
4. I notice you never answer the MEAT of what I had to say... :)
5. After this display of imperialistic apologetics do not ever let me see you complain about America and the Indians or especially about Israel and the poor "indigenous" (lol) "Palestinians" being badly treated or that they really own the land... turn about is fair play my friend.
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JPalka
08:58 PM on 06/08/2010
That's the spirit. Once a muslim land, always a muslim land. It does not matter when and how. You guys just consider it yours for eternity. And that is from a moderate muslim.
01:09 PM on 06/06/2010
Time for God to re-express just how much He/She wants humanity to be happy and whole. There is an opportunity to express this right now. All the Abrahamic faiths could help deliver the message by building Cordoba House....and right next to it a a temple called Jerusalem House...and next to that one... Jesus House.

A humble boquet of houses of God, existing in tribute.... at the feet of the one of the most awful human tradgedies in which humans of all faiths, and no faith at all , have had sacred life stolen from them.

How better to honor God and man than to build these free standing temples of aspiration within eye shot of the Twin Towers?
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Janetshusb
02:08 PM on 06/05/2010
Edan's aunt: I agree there are religions that preach hate and suppression of others rights. We have some here in the US and they are home grown and they should have their toes stepped upon. If you've noticed, the minute they step outside their church and start trying to enforce(the operative word being enforce) their beliefs on others and as soon as they get caught they get hauled off for a long chat with a lot of very serious legal types in a court of law. The same thing will happen if some very stupid, very right wing Muslim group tries to do that with Sharia Law just as it has happened with some of our very own right wing nut Christian groups. The Sharia Law conversations that have everybody's knickers in a twist were a complicated series of discussions about religious philosophy and legal philosophy in Muslim countries. They had nothing to do with Sharia Law replacing anything in the US in fact the discussions had nothing to do with the US period. I don't understand who starts this "OMG-did -you -hear-what-THEY-are-saying" kind carp or what advantage they are seeking but if we would all try to keep calm, read the actual stuff (which would probably be pretty boring) and stop looking for monsters under the bed we might be able to cut the number of ulcers in the US right down to zero.
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edensaunt
04:31 PM on 06/05/2010
I think you may misunderstand me - I don't think this is happening, I just claim the right to criticize religion - any religion - on the basis of its ideas - I respect all people, not ideas. We don't automatically think that ideas about biology or cooking or politics are off limits, and to me, religion is no special case. And if you have heard what is going on in Texas (google Cynthia Dunbar) you'll agree that our system has a spotty record on keeping her kind of nonsense at bay, often because we are afraid to offend anyone's religious ideas. I know that a lot of good is done in the name of religion, despite some very nasty ideas in the Bible and the Koran - in my view it is despite, not because, but that is my already admittedly biased view ;)
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Janetshusb
05:14 PM on 06/05/2010
Oh, well Cynthia Dunbar. One wouldn't expect anything less from that poor loony thing.

Anyway, here's a deal. If the Cordoba House turns out to be some sort of front for illegal religious activities I'll march with you to get the thing torn down but you have to read up on the Cordoba Initiative. Deal?
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Caleb Owens
More socialism with our crappy capitalism, please.
05:13 PM on 06/07/2010
Except all the parents that kill their children because they don't believe in medical science, they're rarely given a serious enough sentence if they're even prosecuted.

Will federal prosecutors also be lenient on Sharia Law abusers when that case comes up?
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01:17 AM on 06/10/2010
You sound like an extremist to me.
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Janetshusb
09:00 PM on 06/04/2010
Oh, BTW there was no honor killing on the site of the Burlington Coat Factory.
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edensaunt
11:50 AM on 06/05/2010
I wasn't referring to the mosque building - that isn't a big deal, just ill-advised in my opinion.

my more general thought is that even within a free society there is a limit to humoring religious ideas in action, and critics like Ayaan Hirsi Ali have seen from the inside what it is like to have one's civil rights denied by religious zealots and watch as they go unchallenged and exploit free societies without playing by their rules and returning tolerance in kind.

This has little to do with the mosque building question, admittedly. But it is a cautionary tale - I don't want our timidity about stepping on toes to be manipulated into allowing sharia law to seep into our country any more than I'd want the Christian dominion folks to prevail. We have a system of laws that doesn't need any magic story to function, as our founders wisely avoided taking sides about religion, so whatever people believe about the supernatural, we can all agree on principles. If any group doesn't honor the right of others to disbelieve their magic story and exist, that is not playing according to our rules, and they have to modify their behavior accordingly no matter what God or Allah supposedly said.

But I am not exactly mainstream in my views - I wouldn't care to see a church built there either.
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Janetshusb
01:40 PM on 06/05/2010
How about if you think of it as a community center being built by engineers, bankers, lawyers, doctors, teachers, social workers, cab drivers who haul their kids to karate lessons, baseball games, play practice, walk the dog, pick up its poop, get upset with their spouses, kids, in-laws, eat pizza, clean out the car only when it gets so bad nobody can stand, get pizzed off at the same local traffic, petty government officials, drunks on the subway, pan handlers on the sidewalk, snotty waiters, bank fees and plastic packaging as you do. The only difference is that occasionally they go to a mosque instead of a church.
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Janetshusb
08:59 PM on 06/04/2010
How is allowing the Cordoba House to be built "sacrificing our ideals" I didn't think freedom of religion meant freedom only for an approved list of religions, I thought it meant all religions. Whose toes are we bending over backwards not to step on? Why are you so threatened by a mosque/community center being built by moderate American Muslims that have been part of our culture for years and years? Is it because you equate all of Islam, all Muslims with terrorism? I didn't realize bigotry was one of our "ideals".
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edensaunt
09:20 AM on 06/05/2010
I mean our ideals in terms of basic civil rights for citizens, our ideals about personal liberty, including freedom of religion/conscience, which are inconsistent with imposition of sharia law, for example.

I'm not "threatened" by it. I understand and sympathize with the pro-arguments, but if I have to err it is on the side that sees this as not a great idea. I am admittedly biased when it comes to religion of all stripes, but I'd defend anyone's right to worship or not as they see fit. Just as long as they don't intrude on the public square with their faith claims and the obligatory rules from their deity. Bounds of reason. As far as religious "moderates" go, no matter what the religion, I agree with Sam Harris.
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edensaunt
12:14 PM on 06/05/2010
in case you're wondering what I meant about Sam Harris & moderates:
http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Secular-Philosophies/The-Problem-With-Religious-Moderates.aspx
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05:47 PM on 06/04/2010
thought I'd let Mr. Condell weigh in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjS0Novt3X4&playnext_from=TL&videos=4WE02kdLY30

he doesn't mince words, but I think it is worth hearing him out.

That said, I'm not about banning religions, just about seeing them clearly and holding all of them to the same standards (any and all supernatural claims are not relevant to science classes other than anthropology, nor are they relevant when forming laws for everyone else).

In my view, the ideal of respecting cultural differences is like bipartisan politics - it has value within the bounds of reason, but when we get into honor killing territory, sacrificing our own ideals to keep from stepping on toes, that starts to become at best counter-productive.
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Janetshusb
08:11 PM on 06/04/2010
I listened, I heard him out. I'm sorry there are people in the world that hold these ideas. They don't seem helpful.
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Caleb Owens
More socialism with our crappy capitalism, please.
05:16 PM on 06/07/2010
There is no freedom of speech or religion in Britian's constitution; I don't think they even have a constitution. Mr. Condell doesn't understand what that means to American society. Is it exploited, certainly, and that's part of freedom.
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JPalka
09:29 PM on 06/08/2010
My parents lives were turned upside down by the communists 60 years ago. One day they were this party in a free society, next thing, everybody against them was harvesting cane. Free thinkers, priests, intellectuals... most of them died there. Yet in the beginning everybody would swear by Utopia. And it was not even russia. If that is not a lesson that freedom is not free and your freedom is not comparable to somebody elses, it is just yours... then you may not deserve it, really. This is not an exercise in futility, this is as political as it can get and they have the money and the numbers. After the communists won that year, for the next 50, they were the free ones, at the expense of all others. It was their freedom, not ours. I do not believe that freedom is shareable. I may seem all over the map but I am not as this is not about freedom of worship, this is political.