I'm not going to tell you exactly how many people I've slept with, partly because I don't know, partly because I stopped caring long ago, and partly because it's none of your business. But I will tell you it's more than French First Lady Carla Bruni's reported number: 15. Way more. I share that information to make the point that how and why we choose our sexual partners differs for everyone; there's no single perfect number that will make you: a) happy and b) not a slut.
But to read Virginia Ironside's recent tirade against Bruni's perceived promiscuity is to think you've landed back a few centuries. Any hint that we might have come a long way, baby, that there was ever such a thing as feminism, let alone the misguidedly labeled "do-me" feminism, is forgotten as Ironside leaves us with such gems as more than fifteen lovers means you're "starting to demean sex itself" and "it's no longer something special that you do only with the chosen few."
Ironside has a lot to learn about sex. I believe that sexual decision-making should be left up to the individual, based on their own desires and values, not some random standard based on what other people think. If your goal is to not be labeled a slut, and you're a woman, well, good luck. Have even one partner, wear a skirt too short, make out on a street corner and be ogled by a particularly nosy, nasty neighbor, and you're a slut, plain and simple. Reputation has little to do with actual sex acts and everything to do with perception.
Further, Ironside assumes that the only reason a woman would sleep with many lovers is for "experience," presumably meaning some kind of sex acts she hasn't done before. "It's unlikely Carla will ever be thinking: 'What might have been.' She's been there, done that and got the nightdress. But what would be the point of Carla - or anyone else - accumulating more lovers?" This viewpoint is what truly dehumanizes sex, turning it simply into a robotic, mechanical movement of bodies rather than a complex set of impulses, attractions and acts driven by all sorts of motives.
Your number of partners and how "special" the sex is are not necessarily related. To me, sex is special when it takes me somewhere I can't go alone (and I don't just mean orgasm). When I'm with my boyfriend, I'm certainly not thinking about my past bedmates, and I highly doubt he is either. If you're doing it right, you're fully in the moment, swept away, as it were. Sex is as special as we want to make it, and for some people, that means exclusivity, for others, casual sex, and for many, some amalgam of the two.
Ironside, like many casual sex detractors, needs to place sex within marriage or committed relationships above more temporary affairs in order to bolster her sense of her own morality. I might go that far─12, 13, 14 or, well, okay, 15 lovers─but 16, and no man will ever want to touch you again!
During the fifteen years I've been sexually active (with some pretty long dry spells in between), I've been in monogamous relationships, been single, had one-night stands, threesomes, and hookups. I've slept with people I loved, and people who I'd just met. Some trysts were amazing, some were forgettable. But isn't that the same with everything we do?
I can tell you that one of the best lovers I've ever had was during a one-night stand. I was hopelessly besotted with someone else, so much so that I thought about him all the time, thrilled when he said hello to me, and was so locked inside my fantasy life I couldn't see my way beyond it. This other man sweetly propositioned me, and I turned him down, explaining my crush. "Maybe I can help you get over him," he suggested. And that's exactly what he did. We had a torrid night in his apartment, and he drove me home the next morning and shared some of his own heartbroken moments. It was hot, but also sweet.
The notion that there is one right number for everyone (and by "everyone," we're usually just talking about women; men seem to be granted immunity from the numbers discussion) crops up every few months, as if to remind women not to take our perceived sexual freedom for granted. I wrote about this topic in June 2006 for The Village Voice, and praised an excellent novel (and fun summer read), Twenty Times a Lady, by Karyn Bosnak. In the book, the heroine backtracks to find her former lovers so that her number doesn't get too high for her comfort. I quoted Bosnak as saying, "When I'm 70, I don't care if I've fucked 70 people. I want to look back and say I took every chance I could."
I agree wholeheartedly. I'd be lying if I said I wished my number were lower, but not because I have some artificial limit on how many lovers I think is acceptable. Rather, there are plenty of people I've bedded where, looking back with the power of hindsight, I see how wrong they were for me. But even those experiences have taught me things about myself, and my sexuality, and have informed my future choices.
To Ironside, women are reduced to nothing more than our number of partners; not our sexual comfort level, sexual satisfaction, or any other indicator of sexual health and happiness. It's the number, not the people informing that number, that matters. That tally becomes the sum total of our sex life, regardless of what we got out of it. It's possible to try everything under the sun with one person and be completely content, or sleep with 100 people and still feel unfulfilled.
Further, her notion that men are so fragile that they'll be tortured by the idea of a woman's prior experience is hopelessly outdated. Sure, some men long for the chaste virgin, but others want a woman who knows what she likes, and doesn't like, in bed. My fellow Huffington Post blogger Jenny Block explores this conundrum in her book, Open, suggesting that men who hold onto the ideal of the virginal women aren't always that thrilled once they get her into bed.
Basically, Ironside is saying that if you've screwed more than 15 people, you're a big slut who should hardly dare show her face, let alone expect to date or marry. Bruni is not only showing her face, but proudly claiming her past paramours. So am I, and if you want to call me a slut, go right ahead. That urge says more about you than it does about me. Some, like Ironside, are happy to cast aspersions, make ridiculous proclamations, and pretend they know best for everyone. If that sounds like you, have at it. I'll be busy doing you know what.
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I personally believe it has far more to do with a base loyalty/pe
If a man or a woman have had a number of sexual partners it can, for some people, raise questions on how loyal this person might be in a relationsh
Nowadays there is also the safety factor, even the safest sexual precaution
So all in all, I respectful
Instead,we should worry more about the seismic and the overwhelmi
The comments I read all appear to come from people with this mastery, which is allocated or developed unevenly and arbitraril
Sex, without this mastery, can be a source of threat, humiliatio
Unlike say, unequal abilities to cook or shoot a basketball
No one is entlted to anything, in this regard.. But like anything else that is distribute
So think about this...how many people exist on this "other side"? A few losers? Or most of the people you haven't encountere
I live in a celibate marriage with a woman, who I is the love of my life, but who totally lost interest at menopause. Through no fault of her own. For the past eight years. I sometimes wish I could disconnect sex from my love of her, and my loyalty to her and to our family. I think that it might make my physical situation easier. But it wouldn't. I know me. I choose to be married to the woman I love, and her conditions for staying married are clear. It is what is right, what is best, for me.
Do what is right, what is best, for you. Whatever that may be.
Peace...
The double standard exists in our society today, but it is enforced on women BY OTHER WOMEN. I've never refused to sleep with or date a woman based on her being a "slut", and neither has any of my male friends. It simply doesn't occur to us, because we're too happy the woman is there and willing. I (and most or all men) are happy to pretend we're the only ones, and it's not really that hard.
The double standard is maintained and enforced BY WOMEN. I have certainly had interactio
Personally
Sluttiness is not so much about your number as it is about how you reached it.
You assume that anything that's enjoyable has roots in pathology. I'm sure you also believe in food addiction and sex addiction, and probably think that people who love cute fuzzy kittens are just avoiding meaningful human interactio
The fear of pleasure is, itself, pathologic
Sorry, Sneath, but your post is far less reasonable than drd's. You don't believe in food or sex addiction? Why not? I'm not saying that everyone that is fat or has a lot of sex is addicted, but some people are. Why else would someone who is morbidly obese pound down twinkies and coke? Why else would someone spend thousands of dollars on internet porn? If we follow your argument, is cocaine or heroin not addictive, but just something pleasurabl
here is a food analogy it is much more beneficial to eat fruits, vegetable, complex carbs, good fats and lean proteins. But every once in a while having some junk food is fine because overall live a healthy lifestyle.
If you are usually conscious about your partners and why you are doing them, very well. And if you have a one night stand or fling every so often, fine as wine. But promiscuit
The numbers game is understand
And yes women do it to other women more or as much as men keeping the double standard alive, which I do not adhere to. But women are seen as our moral compass.
Rachel - your comment above somewhat saddens me. MEN have done a bang up job making women feel like sh*t - hence we are STILL using the word *slut* in 2008? Gosh, aren't we a backward society.
IF there were truly a slut - bank on IT being a man. I hate that word. Very WEAK and controllin
I didn't read the rest of your article - no need. Do what YOU want to do. No need to explain to anyone, cept your partner, at anytime. Sex is great. It feels great. It's v-e-r-y healthy, no matter what far right nuts, uptight WEAK men or the religious have to say about this.
And hey, sensual sex is even better! :-) Sex vs sensual sex - two different animals. Both have their place but 'sensual' sex wins..... hands down. My opinion only.