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Posted: January 16, 2010 06:51 PM

Flashback: Jay Leno Announces His Handover to Conan in 2004

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Yesterday, I hearkened back to September 2004 when NBC made the announcement that Conan O'Brien would be replacing Jay Leno as the host of the Tonight Show, five years in the future, in 2009. In hindsight, knowing what we know now about the events of the past week and a half, the New York Times article detailing the deal is quite an extraordinary read. In the same way, watching this clip from the same day — September 27, 2004 — of Jay Leno announcing the handover, the events behind it and his satisfaction with it is also pretty extraordinary. I've transcribed his full statement, and, as with the NYT piece, I'm presenting it in its entirety without comment...just a little emphasis here and there. The transcription begins just after Leno explains that, despite re-upping for five more years, he'd be leaving the network in 2009. "Let me explain how these things work," he said:


Time went by - there's all talk about Conan O'Brien, will he go to ABC will he go to one of these other networks. And they came to me and they said, "We don't want to lose Conan O'Brien." And I said, "Okay, what does that mean?" And they said, "We think Conan would be a good replacement" - as I do - Conan is a gentleman, funny, the hottest late-night guy out there [applause]- and I said, "You know something - I don't want to see Conan go anywhere else." I'll be 59 years old...5 years from now, that's 12,000 shows, I'm not going anywhere tomorrow. And I said, "You know, there's really only one person who could have done this into his 60s, and that's Johnny Carson. And I think it's fair to say, I'm no Johnny Carson." ["Awwww" from crowd.] No no no. So I called up my buddy Jerry Seinfeld and said, "Jerry, what do you think?" And Jerry quit his show when it was the most popular. And I'm proud to say this show has been #1, we will keep it #1, and then in '09 I'll say, "Conan - take it over, it's yours."

Because you know, you can do these things until they carry you out on a stretcher, or you can get out when you're still, you know, when you're still doing good — I'm not quitting show business! — but I realized, I'm not spending enough time with my cars. [Laughter] But anyway, this is not tomorrow, it's five years from today, and I want to say, I don't think there's a better choice — because, you know, when I took this show over, boy, there was a lot of animosity, between me and Dave and who's gonna get it — and quite frankly, a lot of — well, good friendships were permanently damaged. And I don't want to see anybody ever have to go through that again. 'Cause this — you know, this show is like a dynasty. You hold it, and then you hand it off to the next person. And I don't want to see all the fighting, and all and "who's better?"and nasty things back and forth in the press.So, right now, here it is: Conan — it's yours. See you in five years, buddy. Clear enough? Enough said? All right.

Once again: Jay Leno will be 60 in April. Video below:

Related:
The Way We Were: Revisiting The Conan-Leno Swap In 2004 [Mediaite]
Jay Leno Would Like You To Know That This Is Not His Fault [HuffPo]
Conan Insider: "People Blame Jay and NBC in Equal Measures." [Mediaite]


(This post originally appeared at Mediaite.com. Hat tip: ErockAppel.com)

 

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Yesterday, I hearkened back to September 2004 when NBC made the announcement that Conan O'Brien would be replacing Jay Leno as the host of the Tonight Show, five years in the future, in 2009. In hind...
Yesterday, I hearkened back to September 2004 when NBC made the announcement that Conan O'Brien would be replacing Jay Leno as the host of the Tonight Show, five years in the future, in 2009. In hind...
 
 
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12:22 AM on 01/28/2010
What people don't remember or don't know is that NBC pushed Johnny Carson out for the same reason they pushed Jay out. They wanted a younger demographic. Johnny didn't want to leave. In those days they gave shows a longer period to become successful. If this had happened today, the same thing would have happened to Jay. However, I doubt Carson would have come back, not because he was loyal to Jay but because he was a bitter man who held grudges and whom his staff feared. I had a friend who worked on the show for several years and constantly heard the stories. Johnny would never have given NBC the satisfaction of having high ratings again with his return.

Leno isn't that stupid. I also think Jay doesn't like change in general -- he's had the same wife for thirty years, he's been with NBC for nearly twenty years. When he does comedy gigs out of town, he likes to fly back and sleep in his own bed. For him it's the comfort factor.

The excuse for Conan's bad ratings were Jay's bad lead in. With new NBC programming at ten and Jay back on The Tonight Show, it will be very interesting to see how things play out. If the new shows suck and have bad ratings, but Jay still gets great ratings again, it will be obvious that the "bad lead in" excuse was nonsense and Conan just couldn't manage.
08:09 PM on 01/24/2010
Just watched your interview about this on cnn.com, and wanted to thank you for being the only really informed member of the discussion.

It must be terrible to be on an opinion segment and be constantly interrupted, especially when you're the only intelligent contributing member.

Keep it up.
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Guy Incognito
Canadian. Sorry.
06:48 PM on 01/19/2010
"I hearkened back to September 2004 when NBC made the announcement that Conan O'Brien would be replacing Jay Leno as the host of the Tonight Show, five years in the future..."

"The FUTURE, Rachel??"
06:25 PM on 01/19/2010
"And I don't want to see anybody ever have to go through that again. 'Cause this — you know, this show is like a dynasty. You hold it, and then you hand it off to the next person. And I don't want to see all the fighting, and all and "who's better?"and nasty things back and forth in the press."

Wow. Jay should've really gone back and reread this statement when the whole current mess started. He could see it coming and should've done the best thing for both him and Conan by bailing on NBC and moving to another network if he still wanted a show so badly.

Seems clear now that the primary reason NBC wanted Leno around with the prime time show was so they could easily ditch Conan (whom they obviously had no confidence in from the start) and conveniently fall back on Jay again. They've just been manipulating both these man for over 5 years now to satisfy their own foolish greed. I just wish Jay had maintained his decency and respect for Conan enough to not go along with it.
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Theatrixnyc
Remember John Lennon:Power To The People!
07:24 PM on 01/19/2010
I just wish Jay had tried to establish himself as decent, self-respecting person by keeping his word. His ego is bigger than his chin, brain or heart.
10:09 AM on 01/18/2010
If I quit my job, took another job and then discovered that I made a mistake and should've kept my old job, I wouldn't be able to go back. Chances are my old employer found a replacement and even if they weren't entirely happy with the quality of his work, unless he did something that deserved getting fired for, he shouldn't lose his job and I shouldn't be able to take that job from him. But I guess in show business, the rules of the real world don't apply. Jay could've walked away with his reputation intact. Now, even if he goes back to The Tonight Show, he'll always be remembered as the host who steals other people's jobs.
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GiannaX
“Imagine, Create, Become”
11:37 PM on 01/17/2010
Jay DID hand the show off to Conan in 2009. This is no big 'GOTCHA' moment. Obviously, Conan wasn't living up to the network's expectations. No doubt there were behind the scenes matters with Conan that played a part in NBC's decision that are unknown to the public..
Airing his dirty laundry on the air, while collecting a paycheck from NBC was totally unprofessional and tacky on Conan's part. He should have been fired on the spot for that narcissistic spectacle.

The network jumped the shark five and half years ago by making a decision of that magnitude that so ahead. I think NBC was already suffering a case of 'buyer's remorse" as the date approached for the *hand off*. If not, why the scramble to keep Jay at NBC? All this toxic fallout is the result of a horrible management decision. Nothing more, nothing less. This is NOT Jays' fault.

This is NOT Jays's fault.
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JinChicago
09:45 AM on 01/18/2010
no, its the nbc execs for trying to shove a late night style program into the main lead in for the local news.

since jays ratings sucked, and his show was EVERY night, the new ratings sucked...which in turn meant less people would 'stay on' for conan unless they were his audience from before

its like me talling you to run a marathon, and i give you a pair of wingtips.
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Theatrixnyc
Remember John Lennon:Power To The People!
10:05 AM on 01/18/2010
Sorry Babe....Jay's reputation is out there...he's done this kind of crap over and over again..
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PatA
Pink is a 4 letter word
08:59 PM on 01/17/2010
I forgot to add that Leno must have forgotten the "internet tubes" and how they will bite you in the arse every time.
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lisamichelle
02:50 PM on 01/17/2010
The fact that this time everyone knows exactly what Jay has said and done (Thank you internet!!!) must really tick him off. He can't just deny and play dumb to it all. I have never thought Jay was funny and his whole tv personality has always seemed very fake to me. He tries to come across as being on the side of the working man but it's all very bad acting. Ugh! People like him really annoy me- always playing both sides and stabbing friends in the back. He has said that he measured his success by how much money he could make for NBC. I found that answer a bit odd. And telling. I guess it's just all about the money for him. In other words, we're all just morons he can make money off of.
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InofTouch
I Hate Hate, Is That A Problem ?
07:49 PM on 01/17/2010
your bias is showing
12:33 PM on 01/19/2010
Yeah, Leno is on the side of the working man - like when he SCABBED the Writes's Strike with the excuse that he was just trying to keep his people working. And he's got the nerve to use this same, tired excuse again!
12:40 PM on 01/17/2010
Interesting story- Howard Stern Show - Rosie O'Donnell Slams Jay Leno

Part 1
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ2fZH2XqNw&feature=related

Part 2
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJVH6SzYRlk&feature=related
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CarmenCameron
Prepping 4 US version of French Revolution
06:08 AM on 01/17/2010
Let me get this straight: the sitch to O'Brien was the nentwork's doing and Leno graciously goes along with it but O'Brien takes 7 months to dig a new all-time low in the basement of late night ratings and the subsidiaries cry foul and the network back-peddals on their deal to keep O'Brien "when he was hot" (very past tense until of late).

And O'Brien (and his team of lemmings) think this is Leno's fault HOW?!?
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oregon bird
08:28 AM on 01/17/2010
Yeah, I'm leaving, but what I'm gonna do when I leave is sit my arse down right in front of your show, and people will have to go around me to get to you. Because I'm gracious that way.

Or, they'll watch Craig Ferguson. Who is actually funny, and edgy, and needs a budget.
08:57 AM on 01/17/2010
So Jay Leno makes programming decisions for the network?
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09:43 AM on 01/17/2010
Take a look at where Leno was 18 months after taking over from Carson: http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,308511,00.html

18 months of being in the basement.
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02:23 AM on 01/17/2010
Amazing how many Conan fans are popping out of the woodwork since this whole fiasco began -so much so that his ratings have dramatically improved over the last couple of weeks.

Now, if only they had been watching his show this consistently over the last seven months and actually enabling Conan to retain the number one status that the show had when he received it from Jay, NBC wouldn't have a leg to stand on with regards to bumping him off.

Too bad most of these so-called Conan "fans", as not really fans of his at all, but really Jay-haters and Letterman fans holding that 20 year grudge (like Dave himself), and looking for an opportunity to stick it to Jay.

Sad really. But then again, we're all only human.
10:22 AM on 01/17/2010
It's not Conan fans popping out of the woodwork. These are people who haven't watched Conan before and are now finding him funny and interesting.
01:40 AM on 01/17/2010
Here's the thing I can't get past --

Guys like Zucker and Ebersol appear by all measures to be completely clueless, but they can't be this stupid. Who would willingly invite this mess into their business?

This entire debacle just screams of Leno refusing to let it go. I don't think this has anything to do with Conan or ratings for The Tonight Show or even Jay Leno's failure at 10PM.

I think Jay Leno just wants The Tonight Show back and he obviously had enough leverage with NBC to get his own way... to hell with everyone and anything else.

This is all about Leno and has been completely orchestrated by him. There is just no other logical or rational explanation for any of this.

I'd be willing to bet that someone will get the story after the dust settles and Jay Leno will come out looking worse than anyone could possibly imagine at the moment.
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oregon bird
08:30 AM on 01/17/2010
Did you NOTICE the banks implode -- entirely because the executives were making their own choices? Same thing. Because they get paid, even if they get fired. What do they care?
11:55 PM on 01/17/2010
first they took our houses
then then took our money
now, they are taking away our entertainment,
next will be our internets!!!!!

Team Conan also means sticking it to the CEOs!!!
12:00 AM on 01/18/2010
Incompetence seems to reign at the "top" After all management positions are all about playing office politics more than anything, remaining bland and neutral, and show some loyalty by coming in some weekends. NBC and Leno have embraced blandness over new, creative and potentially more intellectual humor. They deserve each other. Money never creates talent. Just good marketing.
01:13 AM on 01/17/2010
Well, there it is in black and white and still the Leno supporters refuse to see it for what it is. A man who does not keep his word. A man who admitted that he'd take the show back if nbc offered it to him. A man who "allegedly" wanted to have a peaceful transition and hand over the reins to the Tonight Show- These are Leno's words: "you know, when I took this show over, boy, there was a lot of animosity, between me and Dave and who's gonna get it — and quite frankly, a lot of — well, good friendships were permanently damaged. And I don't want to see anybody ever have to go through that again. 'Cause this — you know, this show is like a dynasty. You hold it, and then you hand it off to the next person. And I don't want to see all the fighting, and all and "who's better?"and nasty things back and forth in the press.So, right now, here it is: Conan — it's yours. See you in five years, buddy. Clear enough? Enough said? All right."
If you want to read the entire article it's right here on HP inthe Media section by Rachel Sklar.
08:59 AM on 01/17/2010
NBC executives pushed Jay out the door.

NBC executives are now pushing Conan out the door.

And somehow this is ALL Jay's fault? Yeah, sure.
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Cloball
Dog eat (whip cream) dog world...
09:21 AM on 01/17/2010
Yes. He didn't retire. If Carson had taken a 10:00 PM slot when Leno took over the tonight show in 1992, do you think the Carson fans would have stayed up to watch Leno at 11:30?
12:42 AM on 01/19/2010
No, it's partially NBC's inept management, too.

But Leno is clearly not Mr. Goody Two Shoes like he makes himself out to be. His ego's as big as his huge noggin.
12:04 AM on 01/17/2010
paul reiser should also read this to his son.
12:04 AM on 01/17/2010
a man of his word, isnt he?