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The Worst Career Advice In The World

Posted: 07/09/2012 2:41 pm

Today, some gut-wrenching stories about the worst career advice you've been hearing for the last 25 years.

It is truly amazing how bad most career advice is. The only comparable industry is "financial literacy," which mindlessly repeats the same five tips over and over, is completely out of touch with how real people use their money, and genuinely believes that the world needs yet another compound-interest chart. Even the name "financial literacy" makes me want to urinate all over my computer.

So it was with great trepidation and reluctance that I began doing career research.

In true I Will Teach You To Be Rich style, we have an extraordinarily rigorous process for studying advice: We buy every course, product, and book. We study them intensely, keeping blind notes and comparing them. We build iterative models and frameworks, relentlessly test them, and in some cases rip them up and start again (in early 2011, we spent four months and tens of thousands of dollars on one approach because we'd missed something subtle -- only to have to throw it all away). By the time you ever see a course from me, it has been quietly vetted by tens of thousands of people.

After all this research, what I found was seriously disheartening.

I found advice written by people who haven't looked for a job in 30 years. (In fact, most career experts have never found a top-tier job.) If they haven't interviewed with the world's top companies, how do they know how the game is really played?

I found advice that tried to be "modern" -- by slapping on words like "social media" onto the same old tired advice that's been passed around for 50 years.

I found that career advice for women is almost unreadable. With phrases like "You go, girl" and approximately 68,000 references to shoes and "climbing the ladder," I found myself wondering: Are women really this dumb? The answer is no. But the advice is.

So here are five of the most egregiously bad pieces of advice -- THIS IS REAL CAREER ADVICE -- that we found. Seriously, these are actual things that people wrote and were paid for.

Some of the worst career advice on the internet

I pulled these five pieces of hilariously bad career advice from our internal research vault.

Let's start with...

1. The No. 1 thing you need for a job search is...


Yes! If you've been looking for your Dream Job, the first thing you need is NOT a strong network, or a process to identify your targets, or a way to narrow down the infinite universe of job options available to you. No, you don't need to understand your psychological barriers, or the interviewing game, or how to master negotiation.

Nope! You need business cards.

2. This is what passes for "scripts" from other sites


Notice my favorite part: the last line.

Simple! Just expand! Hey... start a business. That's right, just start it. Now, get some customers and you'll be a millionaire!

3. Follow your passion!


It sounds logical to find your passion using self-examination. But has that worked for you? Just like "keep a budget" sounds logical for money -- but doesn't work -- looking inward is only a small part of the puzzle. On its own, it doesn't work. Of course, you would need to test it to realize this. Bonus: Notice the very American idea of looking inward, as if you can "think your way to clarity." Wrong, wrong, wrong.


Here's my view on passion:

This is me smiling

4. Don't close any doors!


Notice that this idea of "keeping all of your options open" is so deeply entrenched that many people cannot fathom another way. But if you're honest with yourself, you know that having too many options is crippling.


5. If you tweet it, they will come.


ARE YOU SERIOUSLY SHITTING ME?

Why is this career advice so bad?

That seriously passes for career advice -- in SOME OF THE LARGEST MEDIA SOURCES IN THE WORLD.

Are you kidding me?

Is anyone else outraged?

I'll tell you why I'm mad.

I'm mad because this terrible advice is written NOT to help people, but to drive pageviews. If one of these writers helps literally zero people, it doesn't matter -- they still get paid. In fact, I am changing "Doesn't matter, had sex" to "Doesn't matter, got paid."

God, I love that song. Anyway, since these career "experts" are never held accountable, you get low-quality writers who come up with obvious ideas, then write the same article 1,500 times. GTFO, horrible advice-givers.

I'm mad because we're fed platitudes for our entire adolescence ("Go to college! Get a good job! Buy a house!") and provided no guidance on how the game is actually played. For example, who ever told you that buying a house is very often a horrible investment? Who told you that submitting your resume through the front door of a company (via its website) is a quick route to being considered a total commodity -- like the hundreds of other applicants?

I'm mad because the career advice we get is unspecific at best, and blatantly wrong at worst. Telling people to get business cards? Please leave this industry and never come back. I have literally never, ever gotten any job because of my business card. In fact, I will bet anyone with a $1,000 set of business cards that I could out-perform you in any job interview.

(I teach you how to do EXACTLY that -- including the words to use in an interview -- to people on my Dream Job Insider's List.)

After we spent four months going down the wrong path of constructing our Dream Job course material, we realized we had taken a wrong turn and we had to go back and do it all again. But that's not what makes me mad. I'm mad because I realized 90 percent-plus of the books we read had never tested their theories with real people.

When you read other personal-finance books and they start with, "Let's figure out how much you're spending," do you know what the vast majority of readers do? They put the book away. Nobody wants to write down what they spend because it makes them feel guilty. Of course, you would only know this if you tested your material. The same is true here: Most career "experts" sat in their room, concocted some ideas that SOUNDED reasonable, and wrote a book. They never tested it. They never systematically identified the flaws in their plan. They just "put it out there." And the results have been terrible.

That's one of the reasons we get people like Beth:

"I am angry that I am working in a silly job after spending a lot of money on a master's degree to get out of silly admin jobs. It makes me feel foolish, BROKE (student loans), and like I'm a waste of space. I'm not contributing the world in a way I consider positive." -- Beth H.


And I'm mad because most of YOU have never taken the time to learn this material. Yes, the media gives us bad advice, and so do our parents, but when was the last time YOU took a successful friend out to coffee to learn how s/he did it? When did you ask one of your top friends how they got their job, and asked them do a practice interview? When was the last time you systematically tried to figure out the job game?


It's fun to blame everyone else, but you ultimately need to take responsibility for yourself. I want to kill you right now.


The result of this? We end up feeling betrayed by a system that promised us success, but never gave us the tools to find it. In a fascinating comment on Reddit, someone wrote about why men often seem bitter about not finding women (substitute jobs for women, yeah I said it):

I think a lot of Reddit is young dudes that focused on school and homework and such and figured that if they just checked off the boxes their parents and teachers told them were important, everything would fall in their laps. Especially if you're a smart kid, opportunities seem to come to you pretty much constantly and everyone tells you you're great. So they do well in school, do all their homework, focus on studies, and eschew social occasions for being dumb/beneath them.

Then when the hot girl doesn't fall all over them for having good grades or being an engineer or whatever, they get bitter because hey, man, I'm smart and I majored in a real major not that liberal arts crap and so on. I'm doing everything I'm supposed to do! They feel entitled to have the girl of their dreams just because they've checked boxes and do the "But I'm a NICE GUY" thing and when that doesn't happen, they get more and more angry and settle into the "Women are just crazy bitches!"

One of the code words of our generation is BETRAYED. We were promised so much, but the chasm between expectations and reality is vast.

(By the way, this isn't just for people with low or middle incomes. I know people with 6-figure jobs who feel the same way.)

We graduated into a terrible economy, a world with more choices than ever before, and an entirely new life situation to navigate. Our parents' advice ("Pick a good job and stick with it!") worked for them, but today is simply irrelevant. Worst, there is nobody who's been through it -- someone we trust who understands how the system REALLY works -- who can take us through it.

You're not finding Mildred, the 62-year-old lady at your career services office, throwing her fist down on the table and saying, "LISTEN UP, ASS. HERE'S HOW YOU GET A BIDDING WAR STARTED BETWEEN FACEBOOK AND GOOGLE."

It's no surprise that we end up feeling betrayed. Take a look:

Seriously, whoever picks these screenshots needs to be hurt

And so an entire generation -- our generation -- has been raised with this low-level anxiety in our heads that we NEED to find our passion, but we don't know how. Start a twitter page? Clean up our resume? Buy a new suit? WHAT? WHAT DO WE DO?

We're repeatedly told to find what we're passionate about... but how? We see our friends posting stuff on FB they're doing -- traveling, getting prestigious appointments, buying a new car -- and we just don't know how to craft our lifestyles to be about that. Some of us even have these things -- a nice apartment, a new car -- but we're still not happy.

Over time, we naturally become more risk-averse.

#1: I am afraid to fail. Not so much out of fear of failure itself, but more so the fear of wasting time and energy in doing so. While typing this, I realize this is more like a FEAR OF RISK: I feel like I should not put my efforts into something when I am not certain that the payout will be worth the time I put in.
--Eric M.


How many of us would do ANYTHING to find our Dream Job... but we're not sure what to do? Notice how over time, we become more and more concerned with wasting our time. The phrase goes like this: "Yeah, I would try anything... but how do I know it will work? I don't want to waste my time on something that won't work."

Sound familiar?

The ultimate irony

The ultimate irony is that there are top performers getting the BEST jobs in this terrible economy. And most of us don't even know that it's happening.

Most of us simply accept what we read in the mass media, which is produced for the LCD -- lowest common denominator. I don't give a damn about the LCD. I'm not writing this for people who are unemployed or have $10-an-hour jobs. They need an entirely different skillset. I created this material to impress my Stanford friends, because I know that you'd rather have material that brings you HIGHER rather than panders to the most basic needs ("Wear a clean shirt!") ever. There's enough of that worthless advice out there.

I'm focused on results. Like how one of my students got a dream job offer within weeks of starting my Dream Job program... even before he finished the 8-week program.

So, ignore the terrible advice that is designed for pageviews, not results. There is hope. There is a SYSTEMATIC way of finding your passion, turning that into clear steps to find your dream job, and interviewing against people with years more experience -- and winning. I've done it, I've helped MANY people do it, and I want to show you how.

TO DO TODAY


Leave a comment with the following:

  1. What is the most ridiculous piece of career advice you've ever heard? Be specific please.

  2. How has bad career advice kept you from achieving your goals? A SPECIFIC EXAMPLE PLEASE.

  3. When you graduated college, where did you think you'd be in five or 10 years? Where are you now? Please share a specific story about the difference between expectations and reality.

 
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02:53 AM on 08/14/2012
What is the most ridiculous piece of career advice you've ever heard? Be specific.
"You're young and now's the time to work your ass off." Does it not matter WHAT I'm working my ass off for? Another one - "Banks give bonuses. Go work for one."

How has bad career advice kept you from achieving your goals? A SPECIFIC EXAMPLE.
It got me confused about what a job is for, especially when I was fresh out of college. Somehow it's been drilled into us that money is the main factor in considering yr career. No one tells you early on that you will likely be spending 40 hours a week doing something robotic and meaningless for a corporation you feel nothing for. One would think that you'd get more realistic advice regarding an area to which so much time and energy is devoted, at the cost of spending time with loved ones or pursuing passions.

When you graduated college, where did you think you'd be in five or 10 years? Where are you now?
I thought I'd be well on my way to career success. I'm not yet five years out of college, but I'm still pretty far from discovering what I want to do, much less excelling at it. A specific example would be getting a "good" job and realising that when it comes down to the nitty gritty, the money doesn't make the job worth it, if you felt nothing for the work in the first place.
07:24 AM on 08/10/2012
1. Worst advice I received:
"Work for a big, established company that does something real & serious. You'll get a higher salary, greater job security, and the company will be more likely to last."

The implication there being that money and a "respectable" job is more important than doing work you enjoy or find interesting.

2. How did bad career advice keep me from achieving my goals?
It's actually funny, because of the bad advice above, it HELPED me achieve my goals. I followed that advice, and spent 2 years working in IT at a major insurance company and HATED it. I learned so much from that terrible experience by defining exactly what wasn't right for me. Coming off that job, I went for a job I really WANTED (vs was told I should want) and it's led me to a better life.

3. Where did I think I'd be in 5-10 years after college?
Honestly thought I'd be working IT operations for some major tech company by now. Racking servers, running cables etc. I thought I'd forever be an in-the-trenches tech guy making the magic happen.

Today (8.5 years out of college), I've gone from IT Ops to working on video games (testing & a little bit of design) to now working in the area of digital software distribution as a manager, working with major companies from around the globe, and helping to set high-level strategy for my company's digital future.
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I love Gardening and Decorating
02:15 PM on 07/10/2012
8 1/2 years after college, oddly I'm where I wanted to be. I'm a full stay at home mom. My BA is in Dance with a minor in Management. I'm certified to teach Preschool - 5th grade. Here's my story: Originally, I wanted to own a dance studio because I thought dancing was the only thing I am good at and have always loved kids and wanted to teach. I added Management to run a better business and took a few education classes. In college I worked in retail at a teacher's store and became the Assistant Manager after graduation. 3 months before graduation I was tutoring at an after school program for an Ethical Life class and decided instead I wanted to be a teacher for elementary school. Oh yeah, My husband or 7 1/2 years (8 in October) and I were engaged all through college. The retail company we both worked for went out of business but starting before the October 2004 wedding I started searching for a job in business and education (I'd have to do alternate route but still can have my own classroom) I averaged 4 interviews a month and in May of 2006 got a job as a Thomas Kinkade art gallery. 6 months later they had to let me go. I didn't send out any more resumes. That search had been the only time developed depression and I have an anxiety disorder making working full time too hard.
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DSevere
Deviant mind
02:18 AM on 07/10/2012
Sorry, all wrong about the passion part. Yes, you will probably not make as much money as you would have if you'd gotten a soul-numbing corporate job. You might even be kind of broke for large segments of your life.

But you know something? You'll be happy, because every day, you'll be doing something fun that you're excited about. You won't be trapped in a cesspool of office politics and stress and burdened by a workload that is meaningless to you.

(Take it from someone who's been happily, passionately self-employed since 1989. In 2007 my also self-employed husband and I joined forces and formed a small creative business, and now we're still following our bliss AND making a fairly good living at it....)
12:26 AM on 07/10/2012
My advice for people is always to go after their #2 passion, not their #1. Because one day, you will get tired of your job. This is more of a "be happy later" piece of advice instead of a "this is how you land a job." If you want to know how to land a job, just know that nearly everyone you talk to will have had different experiences and there is no super-secret one right way. You just have to keep at it until both you and a potential employer both feel like you're the right fit.
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Linnea Caldeen
I think, and am still confused.
11:45 PM on 07/09/2012
1. I think the worst piece of career advice I got was "Build your credit history." What I was not told was how to build a STRONG, POSITIVE credit history.

2. The result of this was a bankruptcy and a four-year stint in a debt management program. It was in the debt-management program that I realized that having lots of credit cards (and loads of debt) was not success. It was just debt.

3. In all honesty, I thought I would receive my college diploma and get hit by a car on the way out of the auditorium. I had no idea of where I would be five or ten years after college. I was fortunate in that I'd backed into what became a dream career for over 20 years by working in the libraries at the college I attended. Now I have to work through this process again, since library jobs are now few and far between. This article does give me some glimmer that I did it "right" the first time; I can do it again.
lightnessandjoy
Is micro-bio a new disease?
10:53 PM on 07/09/2012
Man, if you're going to write an infomercial, at least try to make it sound original.

PS You can't build yourself up by knocking someone else down.
10:36 PM on 07/09/2012
Great article but can anyone tell me why the statement.....

"It's fun to blame everyone else, but you ultimately need to take responsibility for yourself. I want to kill you right now."

.........is there? Kind of an odd thing to say.
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Ty2010
02:15 AM on 07/10/2012
He knows what you're thinking, about those boxes you ticked off listening to everyone else and equating that with responsibility. The second sentence personalizes it to you specifically, gets you to ask why he would want to, so you look at yourself outside of everyone's expectations and know where you've allowed yourself to be mislead. Put simply, it's a technique to get you past your own cop outs about decisions you've deferred to others and honestly acknowledge you knew better but did not follow that. If you look into something believing your life is on the line, your answers for a lot of things will be entirely different as you aren't looking for acceptance or to please others.
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sam ella
Gee, Brain. What are we going to do tonight?
10:15 PM on 07/09/2012
bottom line.....in the US if people are getting jobs everybody is getting jobs.....if people are not getting jobs, nobody is getting jobs. In a couple of years the economy will fix itself and ppl will get jobs. when that happens remember to save and live within your means because the next recession will be around the corner. Such is life in a capitalistic economy. i dont hate it i dont love it. i accept it. :)
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montanasian
Still trying to make it up the learning curve.
09:53 PM on 07/09/2012
This sounds like alot of snivel. Im sorry you didn't get your Rose Garden Mary. If you happened to follow the sheep off the cliff and never looked up from a wooly brown hole in front of you , then its not the rest of the older worlds fault. In all this poor me stuff was there any offering of real advice?
09:53 PM on 07/09/2012
Career advice? Simple - old folks like me do most of the hiring. We hire to fill a gap in skills. Not attitude, not enthusiasm, not sad stories about how the last 7 screw ups weren't your fault and there is a reason for the spelling mistakes in your cover letter.

Skills. Find what skills are needed where you want to live and go get them. If you want to know about a field and what skills are in demand, do some research and call. Most managers will take some time to talk to you if you show you've done something - hell, anything - before you call. I know I do.

Or, keep comlaining about how old guys don't understand and should hire you anyway. Your choice.
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Ty2010
02:20 AM on 07/10/2012
But this would be after the dog and pony show that must be put on for HR.
11:06 PM on 07/10/2012
Yep, there are lots of hoops to jump through. But in most small businesses the owner is the HR department. And in a larger organization, the managers have a lot of say in hiring. So, jump through whatever hoops are in front of you, but remember - they are looking for specific skills AND the ability to jump. If you can do both, you'll have a job.
jdave1
Mind like parachute: works best when open.
09:52 PM on 07/09/2012
Is this a sales pitch posted on a news site? Certainly feels like it.
Be that as it may; I'll bite. Here's my "advice".
Find out what needs to be done that no one else wants to do.
Do it. Well.
Result: long stable career.
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mmoskvit
Reader. Hitchensian. Fellow traveler.
07:54 AM on 07/10/2012
Gainful employment as a graveyard robber. Weee.
09:50 PM on 07/09/2012
This holder of the secrets to wealth and rewarding employment has his corporate headquarters at a UPS Store maibox on Chestnut Street in San Francisco.
09:27 PM on 07/10/2012
Thanks, from a San Franciscan!
09:29 PM on 07/10/2012
Thanks, from a San Franciscan! And, no, unfortunately I do not know how to make you rich, either. My own bank account demands too much of my attention.
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jwl3ss
09:45 PM on 07/09/2012
Here's some free job advice. As a new applicant be prepared to start at the bottom doing crap nobody else wants to do. Be prepared for a low wage. Nobody is going to pay you big bucks if you don't bring extensive education, training, or experience to the table. If someone in higher authority gives you an order, as long as it's not illegal or immoral, just do it. Don't offer your opinion, don't ask why, don't comment you think something is stupid, keep your opinions to yourself, and do your job.

Keep your mouth shut and remember relatives work at the same company. Don't criticize others. Follow the chain of command. Read the policy or procedureal manual. Learn new skills. Listen to senior people. Come in early and leave when the job is finished. Show interest. Research the company. Assess advancement and promotional opportunities. Figure a time frame to work there, and leave if things aren't happening. Don't leave a job until you have another job. Nothing is a guarantee. You're entitled to nothing more than you earn on your own. Use common sense. Cover your back against incompetence of others. Beware smiling faces. When someone tells you not to worry, start worrying. Don't play where you eat. Keep up on new technologies. Stay out of office politics. Dress well. Never let people know how much money you have. Always take advantage of company benefits.

Good luck!
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ThePeoplesKey
Writer/General Disreputable Rogue
09:35 PM on 07/09/2012
"when was the last time YOU took a successful friend out to coffee to learn how s/he did it?"

The most successful people I know all have one thing in common. They earned their wealth the old fashioned way ... they inherited it ...
08:57 AM on 07/10/2012
Maybe it depends on your definition of success. I do know a few people that inherited wealth. Most of them do not really bother working, though a couple did also inherit the path to very high positions in F100 companies. Many more that I would consider successful were talented/intelligent (inherited traits?) and worked hard as well.