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No Child Left Behind Plan Doomed to Failure

Posted: 10/22/11 04:28 PM ET

It pains me to say this, but from everything I have been reading Sen.Tom Harkin's plan -- and every other plan to revise No Child Left Behind -- is destined to be the same miserable failure the original law has been.

Until politicians stop ignoring the fact that major influences on education take place outside the schoolhouse doors, no educational legislation will ever have any lasting impact.

Blaming problems in our nation's schools on "bad teachers" and teacher unions has proven to be a winning formula at the ballot box, but one that comes at a price.

The never-ending bashing of teachers and unions has devalued the public perception of classroom teachers, the very group that has offered the only protection the United States has had against the rising tide of mediocrity that threatens to engulf us.

What we need is a No Child Left Behind act that truly addresses the problems that face education and society as a whole.

- Any law that fails to address the role poverty plays in education is doomed before the ink is dry on the president's signature. When children are poor, hungry and living in homes without books, education becomes secondary in their lives.

- The role of crime and punishment has also been completely overlooked. As long as we have a society that stresses punishment over rehabilitation for small-time offenders, we are putting more and more young parents behind bars, breaking up more families, creating more poverty and providing obstacles to education. The same people in the American Legislative Exchange Council who have been pushing the privatization of schools have also written so-called "model legislation" that emphasizes punishment over rehabilitation to keep profits soaring at their privatized prisons.

- The cuts that have been made in state budgets across the U.S .have eliminated the programs that have helped keep young people off the streets and provide an opportunity for them to receive a quality education. At the same time, cuts to school districts have reduced the number of counselors, and those who are left have to spend most of their time administering and evaluating the endless stream of standardized tests and practice standardized tests that take up so much of the students' and teachers' time.

- A system that prizes those who invest over those who work. We have seen a change in emphasis in what our society prizes. We wonder why we are no longer producing as many scientists and engineers when all of society's rewards are going to investment bankers, hedge fund owners, and CEOs. This is not a formula designed to help someone race to the top. It is also not a formula designed to foster an interest in education.

-A political financing system that allows those who would destroy public education so they can privatize learning or not have to pay for it to control the talking points on educational policy. Can there be any good reason why education is the only area in which replacing seasoned professionals with youngsters with no experience is considered to be a reform? Can anyone explain why the politicians who are so gung-ho on constructing ever-growing testing regimens for public schoolchildren are the first to enroll their own children in schools that do not have to jump through these bureaucratic hoops?

Plans to reform education will never succeed as long as the only changes are made to the schools and not to society.

If education is failing in the United States, it is doing so because of the wounds being inflicted upon it by our elected officials and educational bureaucrats who try to curry favor by becoming lapdogs in the service of whatever reform trend is making headlines.

The only way to see our children's lives improve is to remember that the public schools are not the problem. The same classroom teachers who have been libeled by self-aggrandizing politicians for the past few years will be a major part of the solution -- if they are still there when the dust settles.

 
 
 

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It pains me to say this, but from everything I have been reading Sen.Tom Harkin's plan -- and every other plan to revise No Child Left Behind -- is destined to be the same miserable failure the origin...
It pains me to say this, but from everything I have been reading Sen.Tom Harkin's plan -- and every other plan to revise No Child Left Behind -- is destined to be the same miserable failure the origin...
 
 
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11:23 AM on 10/24/2011
In a nutshell:

As the GOPers continue their push to destroy government and privatize everything, they have, purposefully, chose to abandon the current education system. This is because the GOP looks at public education the same way it does 'entitlement' programs. The GOP answer is to privatize all public service entities, to include the military.

Just imaging what the US will be like once the public education system is privatized. And we wonder why we are last in education, and increasingly, unable to complete in the global workplace.
11:02 AM on 10/24/2011
This article articulated pretty much the whole spectrum of why the educational system in America is broken. Instead of coming together and try to solve these problems: I see some lug heads coming on blaming the teachers again!
09:10 AM on 10/24/2011
In other words, everything that is wrong with our educational system is someone else's fault -- not the schools'. Good teachers can help a student set goals then give them the tools they need to reach those goals. No one can change the current social-economic status of our students, but they can be encouraged to grow out of poverty and neglect.
Every segment of our society has a responsibility to our children. Everyone must put our children first --- that includes the teachers!
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09:45 AM on 10/24/2011
That is not what I am saying at all. One of the most remarkable accomplishments of American public schools, and one which has been almost entirely overlooked, is that classroom teachers are reaching an incredible number of these children despite the obstacles. Teachers take responsibility every day and we are still slammed for it.
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Ariel Bonzai
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12:08 AM on 10/25/2011
We are blamed for what districts and unions created and being " displaced" , defamed and disposed of by big brother business, which dodged taxes and used philanthropy to do us in after saturating the public's perception with propaganda via Waiting for Superman, the media ( owned by a few rich men) and a test that should be evaluated before it evaluates anyone. What a glorious scam. I really appreciate Turner's earnest insights and love HP for the subversive slant it has on truth. Sure it buries big news about discrimination at LA schools and lets Deasy have his way with headlines. And Missouri has taken some beatings too, but these blogs and news items provoke discourse, something LAT censors. I believe we would not have a prayer without this venue and bloggers like Randy Turner.
10:59 AM on 10/24/2011
Are you really that ignorant? Blaming the teachers? Maybe you should start blaming yourself for your kids failures.
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acumenguy
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10:27 PM on 10/23/2011
Bravo. I can't add to this post at this time.
Suffice to say: I hope you hold sway with policy holders.
I hope they realize that hutting down a scholl and fireing the teachers does not help unless parents step up. If parents who live in poverty want the same for their children as affluent pamilies, here are some no cost actions to take:
Read to your child at an early age. Don't curse at your child. Don't use profanity around your child. Behave in a manner you expect your child to behave in school. LISTEN to your child without interupting. Teach your child to respect rules, law, and order. Listen to your child's teacher and follow the program the teacher suggest. Don't let your child see you break the law. Use standard English when talking to your child. I could go on, but, I think you see where this is going.
None of the above cost any money.
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09:12 PM on 10/23/2011
This teacher knows what he is talking about. Pardon me for being paranoid but most school reform proposals have been aimed at destroying our free public education system. The corporate masters that control our country don't want a well educated critical thinking society. They want workers that won't cause trouble. They do not want to pay to educate our children, they want that money going to tax breaks for them! Their strategy has been to attack "bad" teachers, horrible teacher unions and claim they want to get children out of "failing schools"! The corporate masters have practically priced poor and middle class kids out of higher education and they want to do the same to K-12 children!
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Ariel Bonzai
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12:10 AM on 10/25/2011
Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean Michelle Rhee and Bill Gates aren't out to get you...
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demisfine
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07:54 PM on 10/23/2011
The biggest mistake was thinking our least educated president had any credibility in starting an education program, let alone an unfunded national mandate.
Predicable outcome from the beginning
05:52 PM on 10/23/2011
It's time to get beyond either/or and start talking about teaching and its complexities in dramatically more sophisticated terms. The VIVA Project www.vivateachers.org operates for teachers who are interested in making those links between policy and practice to show bureaucrats, parents and politicians the complex endeavor that is teaching and learning. Yes, there are many external conditions at play that complicate teachers' jobs. But the fact is we (teachers more than anyone else) do know what effective teaching looks like. Teachers have a great opportunity to define the demands of their profession and rally the public for the resources every student needs, especially those who need many more supports than the most effective teacher could provide. But rather than complaining about policy failures and gaps, teachers should do more to draw the connections between student need and education policy in clear and specific terms, based on their professional knowledge and experience. We invite any classroom teacher to join this endeavor.
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01:28 PM on 10/23/2011
"Plans to reform education will never succeed as long as the only changes are made to the schools and not to society."

Here, sir, you have said it all. Bravo. This is why our kids are three to four years behind most other countries. This is why bullying is prevalent. This is why adulst continue to vote against their best interests.

The greatest disappointment in growing up is realized that grown ups continue to act like children.
10:48 PM on 10/24/2011
Please stop repeating broad generalizations like "our kids are three to four years behind most other countries".

http://nas­spblogs.or­g/principa­ldifferenc­e/2010/12/­pisa_its_p­overty_not­_stupid_1.­html
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11:42 PM on 10/24/2011
Specifics then. Between 4th grade and 7th grade US education falls behind almost all other developed countries by about a year, by 12th grade the US education system is three to four years behind with regard to science, math and language arts (reading and comprehension, writing skills etc.)

http://nces.ed.gov/pubs99/1999081.pdf
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Ariel Bonzai
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12:11 AM on 10/25/2011
Yet without an adequate education we will never improve society.
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09:24 AM on 10/23/2011
Where education is failing it is doing so because the failing students are not working hard enough. no other reason. None.
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RLaitres
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10:08 AM on 10/23/2011
People, and even students, are limited by their expectations. Those, unfortunately, are all too frequently set even before their first class, all too frequently set by their parents and other adults around them. To put it another way, their minds have already been closed, never to re-open.
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02:30 PM on 10/23/2011
If their mind is closed then they closed it themselves.
01:10 PM on 10/23/2011
But WHY are they not working hard enough? I graduated from a failing/ failed high school, I didn't work at all, didn't take a book home for four years, crammed for every exam in the few minutes before class, the high school doesn't exist anymore and I now have a PhD. So it isn't that I didn't want to work, it is that I saw no reason to at the time, didn't think it would benefit me or anyone else. Why? Blaming the students won't work until you can explain it.
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GlennWatson
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02:18 PM on 10/23/2011
“But WHY are they not working hard enough?"

The are lazy and believe they have better things to do with their time. Maybe the are right, maybe they are wrong but in no way is this the fault of the government's
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William Robert Toth
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08:22 AM on 10/23/2011
I spent my first ten years in private (actually parochial) schools. Looking back now I see what it did to me and, inadvertently, to many of my students. We becane elitisit, grew to believe we were better than the lowly peasants who went to mere public school. I've learned a lot since then. Public schools are the great leveler, the place where the lowly and average can better themselves and where those who already have great advantage can learn that other people have worth too. This education reform thing is NOT about helping children, but about torpedoing public education and making education the province of the rich and elite, just as it was when I taught in parochial schools.
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10:40 AM on 10/23/2011
Agreed.
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01:30 PM on 10/23/2011
Absolutely. The challenge is in getting others to see that!

As long as we think that schools, prisons and health care providers should operate with a profit margin we are doomed.
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12:40 AM on 10/23/2011
An alien looking down on us and the attention we don't pay to home education factors, the attention we don't pay to school counselors, and the attention we don't pay to rehabilitation as the best alternative to incarceration, among others, could only draw one conclusion: we hate ourselves.

It's high time for this nation to invest in people rather than investing in praying to the gods of wealth. Every time I read about someone telling us that it's the fault of the poor, the fault of the destitute, the fault of the undereducated, or the fault of the sick that they are responsible for their own condition, I want to scream bloody murder!

Where has the compassion gone? Where has the recognition of the dignity of every person gone? Where has gone the recognition that we are a society, not a collection of self-serving individuals, islands unto themselves? Why do so many distrust and even hate their fellow man? Why are so many so callous and so rigid?

INVEST IN PEOPLE!

And don't make the people you invest in those who already have enough to take care of themselves.

INVEST IN PEOPLE!
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10:08 AM on 10/23/2011
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think if 2 aliens were looking down on us....
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Ariel Bonzai
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12:24 AM on 10/25/2011
Imagine what countries like France, Switzerland and Egypt think of us. Canada and Mexico probably have decided we are not worth the risk of illegal immigration and Aliens are never going to make contact if this is the most powerful nation in the world.
12:08 AM on 10/23/2011
Sorry got too excited. Anyway, the days of us solely relying on teachers to be the sole source of our kids education is over. We must learn to deal with it and step up to the plate. We had 500 dollars per kid cut out of our school budget in michigan last year. So we figured out a way to help our teachers. Everyone has to step up.
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10:42 AM on 10/23/2011
I don't believe we ever HAD that day.  Families and society were always important to education.  We've scapegoated the schools, teachers, and Unions because that suits political needs, not because that's where all the blame lies.
12:04 AM on 10/23/2011
Why don't people just get off the teachers. You go in and deal with 20-30 kids everyday and see what it's like. We as parents have to take on the responsibility of supplementing what the kids are learning and teach them. The
11:50 AM on 10/24/2011
I somewhat agree with you on this point. I do not send my children to public schools, because where we live, the teachers are forced to act as baby-sitters for the handful of kids that act up in class which takes away from the other 30 kids in the classroom. I do think the teachers need to be held accountable, and that the union could be a problem, but it does start with the parents. They are the number one source of a child's education. Parents NEED to be involved!
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Ariel Bonzai
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12:36 AM on 10/25/2011
There's some crappy teachers. More than I care to admit. Some are abusive bullies just like admin. so birds of a feather. . . Yes they should be accountable, we all have to be, but the accounting is bad. The books are cooked, so the people have to stop buying the propaganda and step up, especially teachers. If you are not condemning the criminal indifference of the people running schools, you are complicit with white chalk crime. Unfortunately , until teachers can count on taxpayers to have their backs, we will be ruined when we do say what we know we have to. Www.perdail.com
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Ariel Bonzai
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12:31 AM on 10/25/2011
20 or 30. That's a cake walik. In LA I think 3 rd grade caps at 35 now. As HS English teacher I see 150 - 200 kids every day. I grade 5 essays per each term, closer to ten with AP students. Every group I have is tested , and many groups contain English Learners, Special Education, behavioral Challenges and Slackers. I can do it because I keep the kids on my side by caring about them abpnd being honest. It's these idiot running the school who are the problem. I have had great leaders but they are treated like great teachers. Overloaded, under appreciated and displaced or worse. Failure is more profitable than success. That's why compassion, non conformity and character are frowned upon by EduCRAT$
11:27 PM on 10/22/2011
One major problem that is often overlooked is the way schools are paid for, by local property taxes, which ensures that students in poor districts, all things being equal, have fewer resources than those in wealthy districts. And it is precisely the poorest students, who grow up in homes without reading material other than TV Guide, with family members who do not speak in complete sentences, much less read to their children, etc. who need the most resources but never get them. In my home state of Illinois the city with the highest property tax rate was poverty-stricken East St. Louis, the city that leads the country in per-capita murder rate almost every year. And even with those high tax rates they still couldn't raise the funds to provide a decent education because property values are so low. My own (rural) district was shut down by the state because the farmers in our school district packed the school board and voted down any tax increases, and we students were provided a skeletonized education. In most other developed countries education is funded by the national government, and each school, no matter what city you visit, is provided the same funding resources, curriculum, etc., with disparities favoring POORER areas. Until we do the same we will continue to lag behind.
12:09 AM on 10/23/2011
Well said. Look at your state standardized test scores in the newspaper this spring. Almost without exception, the top 10 performing districts will also be the top 10 wealthiest neighborhoods in the state. Schools are not a panacea. They will reflect the socioeconomic inequities of the culture. They're a mirror, not a magic looking glass. For an institution charged with curing all of our society's ills -- then crucified for failing at this impossible task -- they sure get the shaft when it comes to funding.
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12:47 AM on 10/23/2011
One of the major reasons people from other countries have wanted to move to the US was the quality of our educational system. Our post-secondary system is still great, but I wouldn't recommend anyone move here to educate their children pre-college.
10:51 PM on 10/24/2011
http://nas­spblogs.or­g/principa­ldifferenc­e/2010/12/­pisa_its_p­overty_not­_stupid_1.­html
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Ariel Bonzai
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01:00 AM on 10/25/2011
Colleges are being attacked too. An adjuc instructor makes less than a migrant worker for teach the core course work students need to succeed in majors. To survive the majority of professors a kid sees are juggling 6-10 classes. He or she has no healthcare, sick days, subs, union, job security or disposable income to pay down interest on federal loans. I left colleges to provide for my child . I took work in public schools and was delighted to find myself loving my students, enjoying my gig and blessed to have adequate wages, health care and job security. I loved my work more than ever. I still couldn't make a dent in my loans but I made a difference. That means a lot to me coming from dirt and earning tw Master degrees. But guess what, they've decided tjose no longer count for much ( $50 a month WAS my reward ). Deasy says the phDs aren't worthy. Well, he paid for his so no wonder... But any way you cut it his Reasoning is elitist. he wants his way, and that means he can break our contracts, but the union ( cheap) and get away with murder. He has money. Our money, btw.
10:29 PM on 10/22/2011
Ex-teachers union boss gets $242,000 state pension

Reg Weaver receives a state pension of $242,657 a year, not because it's based on his last salary as a teacher, but because he gets to count the $300,000-plus check he made as president of the National Education Association.

Previous investigations by the Tribune and WGN-TV have shown how city union leaders are dramatically boosting their retirement benefits by tapping into Chicago's public pensions.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-pensions-teacher-side-20111023,0,6864114.story
11:53 PM on 10/22/2011
So union leaders take their cue from corporate executives -- minus about $8 million or so.
12:40 AM on 10/23/2011
LOL, exactly!
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10:10 AM on 10/23/2011
good one!
the teacher is still in the 99%!!!
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09:42 AM on 10/23/2011
My man, you'll have more credibility here if you also post and link to some articles about the millions of dollars in bonuses and retirement packages that corrupt bankers and hedge fund managers are getting for helping drive the U.S. and world economy into recession.
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10:11 AM on 10/23/2011
And I would love to see those links!