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Ray Suarez

Posted: September 13, 2010 05:34 PM

The DREAM Act

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For years, the DREAM Act has been the low hanging fruit of the immigration reform debate. Yet almost a decade after a version of the law was first proposed, it is no closer to passage or implementation.

The DREAM Act centers on young people who are not legal residents, but came to the country as children in the company of illegal immigrants. Now graduating from high schools around the country at the rate of about 65 thousands a year, they don't qualify for most college loan or scholarship programs, and their home states charge them radically higher out-of-state tuition for higher education.

The DREAM Act would end those problems for students who are out of status, and finish high school, or spend two years in the military. Its opponents do not want to open the door to eligibility for legal status for so many thousands of people, and the law's supporters don't want to accept half a loaf in the form of passage of a measure that falls short of the far reaching fix they seek for immigration.

The young people themselves? They are sympathetic characters out of central casting... many are successful students, committed to making lives in the United States. They were not responsible for their presence in the US, whatever their status. The lawbreakers were really their parents, and it just rubs certain Americans the wrong way to see their opportunities limited by something they did not choose. Their home countries are places they hardly know, or don't remember.

So for America, what's the best play? Make these young people wait for a thorough solution to immigration reform? Let them in temporarily pending the completion of their education or training? State colleges and universities are strapped, and charging in-state tuition to thousands of kids would mean foregoing lots of cash. On the one hand, they have no plans to return to countries that are foreign to them now, on the other hand they are, as one of our panelists pointed out, unemployable under American law. So which is it, encourage investment in a young adult to give them the tools to be more productive in the work force? Or concede that an illegal immigrant with a college diploma may end up more frustrated than one without it.

When I was in Iowa in early 2008 for the campaigning before the Iowa caucuses, I followed Gov. Mike Huckabee, then the governor of Arkansas, to a college campus where he got a question about the DREAM Act. During a campaign season marked with escalating tough talk about immigration and enforcement, Gov. Huckabee was alone among Republicans willing to make it possible for illegal immigrant students in their states to enroll as residents and pay accordingly. "They're not going home to a place they don't even remember," the governor said, "I think we're a better country than that."

There are logical, legal, coherent arguments to be made on both sides of the debate. Even Americans who have little patience for pleas for a "path to citizenship" for people who've come here to live illegally agree these young people are not to blame for their predicament and don't want to see them punished.

So again, for supporters of the DREAM Act, what's the play? As more and more states prepare to introduce laws that mirror Arizona's SB1070, what shot does the law have? Are Republicans in any mood to give the President any kind of legislative victory that could strengthen Latino support for Democrats as we near the midterm elections? Are Latino voters going to credit President Obama?

It's starting to look like the sour mood in the electorate won't be improved unless the US starts racking up better job numbers. For a country with millions of unemployed and underemployed, there may be little stomach for a policy that puts hundreds of thousands of new, better educated graduates on equal footing with native-born workers.

Until more of these questions can be answered its hard to see the DREAM Act going anywhere soon. These littlest immigrants, now all grown up, are collateral damage in the war over immigration. As in many of the big battles over social policy, the loudest voices at the end of the ideological spectrum now control the debate. The people who need the law most just have to wait.

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06:59 PM on 09/20/2010
12 million amnestied illegal immigrants will quickly become 36 million because of the following. "Illegal aliens who qualify for the Amnesty immediately jump to the front of the citizenship line, and once legalized, they can sponsor their extended family members for citizenship through current chain migration laws." (thanks Paul)
05:49 PM on 09/20/2010
First of all our country is officially overpopulated right now. We have also had seven amnesties so far and every time it just triggers a new flood of illegals jumping on the next one. This "DREAM" act amnesty will send the message "come on over and use you children as pawns to game our system. I really feel for the kids that are actually caught in this situation but any illegal up to 35 years of age can just clam they came over with their parent years ago and get amnesty. By rewarding this behavior we are encouraging more of it in the future.
04:41 PM on 09/20/2010
America needs to stop paying for foreigners who don’t respect our laws (identity theft, tax evasion, welfare fraud to name a few). We cannot support the entire world, we need to choose: illegals or our own children. Please call your elected representatives and plead with them to stop this backdoor amnesty which will result in an invasion of millions more, because our President is going to try to push this through, maybe tomorrow.
12:58 PM on 09/17/2010
In reality, many of these "illegal" immigrants were brought to this country at a young age or when they were babies. Me being one of them,i have been trying to live according to the law as much as possible, even that I do not have the right to be here. The Dream Act is just a small hope for me. Wishing to make this a better country by educating myself more and putting into the table everything I have learn through out the years. Many Citizens or legal immigrants are out there wasting their time doing NOTHING, asking the goverment for unemployment rather than going back to school to have more chances to get a job or start their own bussiness. I get to see it everyday, I interact with them and it gets me frustrated it when I talk to someone that has the chance to be admitted at ANY school and not willing to go because they dont have the commintment to continue with their education, also i get to see other people ready to jump into the train and not being able to do it since they don't meet the requirements (in this case because they are illegal immigrants) it absolutely breaks my heart.

Point is: The Dream Act will open up the doors for those who wish to continue their personal growth and currently are not able due to their legal status.
10:43 PM on 09/16/2010
To answer some of your questions by an actual illegal...
I am not sure how you compare a legal immigrant with an illegal. First of all, these legals don't have the mental padarox I have in my mind of wanting to serve America. It as if I were raised Christian, but you want me to study witchcraft.
Myself and many others do not and would not support other illegals coming or staying. This is because unlike legal people and illegals with US born babies, we suffered tremendously. Some of us have been abused in many ways, all of us lived in poverty and hardship. But yet I don't feel you owe me anything. On the contrary, I feel you the citizens are handcuffing me and this is an impediment to finish my mission, that is to make America a balanced country. No left and no right, just balance.
Knowing many people in this case, I can tell you we are centrists but do find ourselves being defended by the DNC. I am not against my own people, but I don't believe all illegals should be legalized, for the majority of them take this land for granted and don't surrender to the flag.
Thank you for your moment...
ism3x
11:39 AM on 09/17/2010
You could always go back your land of birth.

I support the DREAM Act I'm concerned that this is a ploy to legalize most illegals since nothing would prevent DREAM Act kids from sponsoring their parents.
03:54 AM on 09/18/2010
except for the fact that its gonna take several years for any of them to be able to do that. By then, who knows, maybe a comprehensive immigrant reform could have passed. And if they do sponsor them, I don't see why adding a couple more hard working members of society could work. These people don't live on welfare..
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Sean777
04:06 PM on 09/16/2010
Kids raised in our society deserve a chance to be Americans.
10:33 AM on 09/17/2010
Why? Webster's definition of Deserve: “to be worthy of merit; to be worthy, fit, or suitable for some reward or requital.†Why is someone who is in violation of the law simultaneously worthy of merit? Or do you believe that simply existing is worthy of merit? If a child breaks school rules is that child worthy of merit and thus deserve a reward? If a child shop-lifts is that child worthy of merit and thus deserve a reward? If parents teach a child to be a pickpocket and the child is caught is it only the parents fault and the child deserves of a reward or requital?

Few people "deserve" anything - they must earn what they have. So tell us what Illegal Immigrants who came to the USA as children have done to earn special consideration. In California it has been documented that children illegally immigrate to the USA to sell drugs. San Francisco was shielding them from ICE until recently. Do they "deserve a chance to be Americans�

Now do you see the problem with the DREAM Act as currently written?
03:59 AM on 09/18/2010
Don't you think serving the country is considered merit? I don't think most of these children were actually sent to California or whatever place to sell drugs, they probably just got caught up in it, just as many US citizens do. Besides, the DREAM act specifies that a candidate must show "good moral character". I don't think anyone that was caught up in drug dealing falls under that category.
01:42 PM on 09/16/2010
There are two DREAM Acts. One is the dream presented by those who would benefit from it. The other is the reality of what the proposed legislation really says.

The House version of the DREAM Act grants legal residency if “the alien, at the time of application, has been admitted to an institution of higher education in the United States, or has earned a high school diploma or obtained a general education development certificate in the United States.†This essentially includes ALL Illegal Immigrants who have “been physically present in the United States for a continuous period of not less than 5 years immediately preceding the date of enactment of this Act, and had not yet reached the age of 16 years at the time of initial entryâ€. Claims that this Act will only rescue the best and brightest are untrue based on what this bill really says.

The Senate version adds to the text above “the Secretary of Homeland Security may waive the ground of ineligibility under section 212(a)(6) of the Immigration and Nationality Act and the ground of deportability under paragraphs (1), (3), and (6) of section 237(a) of that Act for humanitarian purposes or family unity or when it is otherwise in the public interest.†This provision includes the ability to waive “any alien who, by fraud or willfully misrepresenting a material fact, seeks to procure (or has sought to procure or has procured) a visa, other documentation, or admission into the United Statesâ€
04:44 AM on 09/16/2010
Illegal aliens who qualify for the Amnesty immediately jump to the front of the citizenship line, and once legalized, they can sponsor their extended family members for citizenship through current chain migration laws.

There is also no end date for the DREAM Act, so the bill would provide a permanent magnet for future illegal immigration. It would also lift the current federal ban on offering in-state tuition to illegal aliens, meaning illegal aliens will receive a lower tuition rate at state colleges and universities than U.S. citizens from another state.

Furthermore, the DREAM Act contains no provisions for increasing border security and interior enforcement and provides no verification mechanism for illegal aliens who say they qualify for the DREAM Act Amnesty.

It's not fair to punish our kids to reward illegal aliens.
04:09 AM on 09/18/2010
Becoming a citizen would take longer than you think, and it would take even longer to make their parents citizens.
The Dream Act states that a candidate must have been in the country for over 5 years before the bill is passed, so any incoming generations aren't eligible. I think one of the big points of the DREAM Act is to allow the candidates to pay in state tuition. How can you expect someone who is deprived of the right to work, is VERY limited to scholarships available to them, and receives no federal aid whatsoever to pay around 24,000 a year (not including room and board)?
Who's doing anything to your kids? Chances are, your kids are good friends with illegal immigrants.
12:27 AM on 09/16/2010
Mercenaries in service is symptomatic of an empire whose goals overreach its inherent natural capacity. Utilizing mercenaries, while providing for short term stop-gap requirements, is not in the long term national interest and compromises national security. We first owe our own veterans better treatment. Perhaps the country should reflect on what it owes its own men and women in uniform before taking on mercenaries in the first place.
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Sean777
12:05 AM on 09/16/2010
The Dream Act should be addressed within a full comprehensive immigration reform
12:33 AM on 09/16/2010
A practical and honest approach.
10:41 PM on 09/15/2010
You guys don't understand most of struggles that one has to suffer to get where we are and then be denied our future. If you want to know what it feels like, I suggest you get in someone else's shoes. The Dream Act is only going to benefit the country because it's going to keep the smart hardworking immigrants, and get rid of the lazy one that don't make it through. The only things that differs from these young people and us, the US citizens, are 9 numbers.
Read this 16 year old's blog to get a better point of view from someone who knows about the subject rather than trying to make up your point of view.
www.dreamacts.blogspot.com It's amazing that someone as young as him can be inspiring to even the most of us. I am against illegal immigration, but this kids did not break the law. Their parents did. However, he also states some useful facts that I believe we all should be aware of.
10:25 PM on 09/15/2010
Illegal young adult here.

It is interesting to see many illegal youth not being able to fend for themselves, for they do not know the higher governing systems of this country. It is scary to see people who are deciding my life,some claiming I deserve this while others saying I am just illegal. Let me tell you something... If this Dream Act does pass, you're going to see many of these people joining the military, because it is in our blood. We were not raised like your children were, spoiled, we were dominated and disciplined by hardship and poverty. We have the passion and loyalty and you would not pay for our college, we would pay you for our k-12. Even in politics my illegal youth friends seem to be moderate. But the majority cannot find the correct terms of wording to defend themselves. I am one of the few lucky who figured out the scheme that is a government. I dislike illegals feeding from their US born babies, they do not know suffering, I do. Have kindness when deciding my life. Thank you for your moment in this space and time.
ism3x the illegal American.
08:57 AM on 09/15/2010
The Dream Act should pass soon, it's logic, it's fair.
05:52 AM on 09/15/2010
"illegal gets free education money" has got to be the least thought-out verbatim they picked up from their equally ignorant parents.

If these illegals received free loading benefits as you claim, we wouldn't need a Dream Act. They don't qualify for loans or grants, and in some states even admission to college.

Stop trying to demonize the most vulnerable members of our society. They are innocent individuals who had no choice in coming to the States. Criminalizing their mere existence is morally apprehensible and you ought to be ashamed of yourself if you thought otherwise.

Prosecute their parents - I will agree. They were adults with conscious choice in the matter.
Prosecute their kids - I do not agree. Nobody should be labeled a criminal without choice or action.

"I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me. Away from me you evil doer."
06:45 PM on 09/15/2010
When one only looks at one side of the story, no matter how sad it may be, the result is pure bias. In reality, this is a “no win" situation. Deport Illegal Immigrants and they suffer. Do not deport Illegal Immigrants and Citizens suffer. Support for Illegal Immigrants to go to College sounds good. But what about American Citizens who now do not get that support even thoug their family pays the taxes that helped fund it. Resources are limited.

Per ‘Immigration Crackdown May Boost US Job Prospects’ by David R. Francis "a study by Northeastern University's Center for Labor Market Studies in Boston attributes the "unprecedented" levels of legal, illegal, and temporary immigration as a factor underlying the "devastation" in the job scene for America's teens and young adults over the past seven years. That's especially the case for males with no schooling beyond high school and youths from low-income families. Summer seasonal jobs as a proportion of all jobs are at the lowest level now in the past 30 years." And this was published BEFORE the current recession.

You quote Matthew 25. What about Matthew 5 "I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven..."
12:04 AM on 09/15/2010
I really think that a lot of you seem to be missing out on the main part of the bill.
The Dream Act isn't an amnesty back door.
Read my friend's article to learn all about it because he explained it very well.
http://dreamacts.blogspot.com