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The Jamie Dimon 'Puppet Show'

Posted: 06/14/2012 11:04 am

As but one example of a widespread reaction, words like "too cozy" and "ridiculous" were among the adjectives applied to the testimony of Jamie Dimon, Chairman and CEO of JP Morgan Chase, before yesterday's Senate Banking Committee Hearing on CNN that evening (CNN's John King Show). Evidence of the extensive frustration felt by those who wanted hard answers to hard questions.

What we did get was a wonderful performance in contrition -- you know, losing $2 billion is human and that sort of thing. But remarkably, with little pushback from the assembled solons, Dimon would claim, straight-faced, "I don't know what the Volcker Rule is, it hasn't been written yet." This from a man who may not know his rule, but knows enough about Mr. Volcker to have been quoted saying, "Paul Volcker, by his own admission, has said he doesn't understand capital markets. He has proven that to me."

This from the head of a "bank" who seems at loss to distinguish between proprietary trading and hedging, a "bank" that has spent into the billions under Dimon's suzerainty, expanding their proprietary trading capabilities by acquiring the prop trading divisions of Bear Stearns and UBS, RBS Sempra Commodities, becoming the largest investor in the London Metals Exchange, extensively poaching traders and executives from rivals and boosting their trading work force from 125 in 2006 to some 1800 by 2010.

Ironically, the day before the Senate Hearing the "bank" announced it had hired an ex-Goldman Sachs energy trader to "expand its customer flow business amid tightening regulation over proprietary trading." Interesting language from a "bank" known to charter VLCC's tankers (very large commodity carriers of some 200,000 DWT or more), and fill them with millions of barrels crude oil (being termed 'financial transaction' or 'repurchase transaction,' but for all intents and purposes largely 'prop trades'). This means oil taken off the market when it might have had a salutary impact on reducing extortionary oil prices. Then keeping the tankers anchored at sea for months at a time. Immense cargoes paid with funds at near-zero interest rates accessible to the "bank" at the Fed window, all the while being custodian of billions of dollars in deposits guaranteed by the government through the Federal Deposit Insurance Program (FDIC). Their new hire could have been the focus of some interesting questioning at the hearings, but alas!

Oil is not the only gambit in play at Mr. Dimon's "bank." According to the Daily Telegraph, the "bank" was reputed to have speculated extensively in the copper market, purchasing over a billion dollars of the metal and pushing prices to their highest levels since the banking crisis in 2008. Being major players on the very commodity exchange where copper is traded, their investment in the London Metals Exchange must certainly have helped.

As to Mr. Dimon's assertion of "I don't know what the Volker rule is," a suggestion: When trying to look it up, start with the word 'Casino.'

 
 
 

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As but one example of a widespread reaction, words like "too cozy" and "ridiculous" were among the adjectives applied to the testimony of Jamie Dimon, Chairman and CEO of JP Morgan Chase, before yeste...
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08:08 AM on 06/15/2012
So...Dimon is either a liar or incompetent. Since the President said he was one of the smartest bankers around, that makes Dimon a liar.
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08:37 AM on 06/15/2012
Good Point... and seems to apply to all those 'really smart' people like Greenspan, Corzine, Summers, Geithner, Paulson, Blankenfeld, Dimon and the like.

It seems everyone involved in the financial markets worldwide is either a liar or incompetent. I'll admit to occasional incompetence, but I have never been rewarded with multi-million dollar paychecks and multi-billion dollar taxpayer bailouts.

Simply put, if their are, by their own admissions, incompetent, they need to be flipping burgers. If they are lying, they need to be in prison.
07:24 AM on 06/15/2012
A system where after failure banks are bailed out, executives are excused, bonuses are paid out, and the public pays the cost is anti-capitalism. It tears at the entire assumptive and philosophical foundations on which capitalism exists; which is that of personal accountability, reward for success, punishment for failure, creative destruction for business failure, and competition must exist so that those who best compete can replace those who are utter failures.

It is sad that so much of our public, especially the tea bagging kool aid drinking, Romney supporting Republicans are so cowed by this version of crony socialism that they who scream 'Obama is a socialist' fawn over the reigning princes of socialistic behavior; our bankers and financiers and their Republican congressional stooges.
03:54 AM on 06/15/2012
What exactly is the crime commited?
07:28 AM on 06/15/2012
In a rigged system where banking and investment have merged, where banks gamble recklessly with other peoples money, where bankers are bailed out when they fail and the public must pay the price for their failure, no laws are broken.

When you create a corrupt structure, corruption is legal and if 'law' is the only judgment upon the system well then you should read history. For everything that Adolf Hitler did, he never broke the law. That's right, by the time 12 million people were marching off to death camps the State had passed laws making it all legal.

So your 'didn't break the law' argument is...?
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08:20 AM on 06/15/2012
So true, jazzman. One of the most specious argument spewed by the GOP/TP unwashed is their cries of America, the Republic and the rule of law as god. None will acknowledge a multitude of governments were 'republics', among them Hitlers Germany, Salin's USSR, Mussilinis Italy. Accordingly, all their actions were legal and above reproach... at least until the rest of the civilized (using that term loosely) took them to task.

The United States is fast approaching these tin horn governments and doing it with the grinning approval of a goodly amount of American voters.
12:18 AM on 06/16/2012
My question was a question, not an argument, I have not been following this story and was trying to figure out why so much attention was given to it. I understand that when a private business losses several billion dollars it is news, but the amount lost compared to total assets is relatively small. I read through the story and a couple of others and could see that obviously bad decisions were made, but making bad decisions is not illegal, if they hade turned out to be good this woould not be a story at all.

I agree that it is a rigged system but people still have the responsibility to know how their money will be used, if they put their money in a high risk investment and lose it all that is too bad (as long as there was no fraud). The public should not bail them out nor should they bail out the investment business.
12:14 AM on 06/15/2012
Dimon is simply carrying on JPMorgan's history...
http://www.whale.to/b/m_ch5.html
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08:22 AM on 06/15/2012
Yep, Jamie is warming the cockles of the old man's grave ridden heart.
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bogeychef
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11:01 PM on 06/14/2012
So all of Wall Street is one big Ponzi Scheme, that's a tad disheartening don't ya think!?
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08:25 AM on 06/15/2012
If there was any safe way to earn a few points of interest, I'd say, "let 'em have it."

But currently my credit union pays 1.6% on 5 year $10,000 CD's
01:22 PM on 06/15/2012
Yes the use of of Ponzi Scheme is disheartening. It really does no justice to the kind of malicious, heartless, fraudulent, to big to fail, boot on throat, complex con game. Sewer sludge is a word that comes to mind. Speaking of that a small example of the business JP Madoff does.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/looting-main-street-20100331

Check this out from Taibbi. An oldie but goody. Shows how they really care for this country and the people in it. It's their business model, but on a much bigger scale now.
10:55 PM on 06/14/2012
There have always been criminals- the government used to try to get a handle on it- they run the show now
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WestSeattle8
O futuro é agora.
10:27 PM on 06/14/2012
Perjury is perjury, even when it's in fancy words written by the lawyers.
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cowbore
09:32 PM on 06/14/2012
Above any law. Untouchable and he knows it.
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TheTightwireGuy
Attempting to balance reason and passion
08:40 PM on 06/14/2012
But folks, please remember that the taxpayer-backed guarantees (implicit) to the likes of JP Morgan Chase keep the economy going! I mean, consider all those campaign funds that the financial industry floods Washington D.C. with. Those funds help to keep the Beltway economy humming!
07:27 PM on 06/14/2012
Benie Madoff didn't go to jail, he got promoted to run the global economy. One of his children, Dimon has madeoff with much more than 2 billion. Not that it was his money he bet with his nor will JP Madoff or him have to pay it back.

Then we have all these politicians, the corporate media, all who profit from the story line, and law officials of every kind acting like they hold up any principles,or law resembling justice( as shown yesterday). When the only thing they really hold up is some wealthy guys old furry tennis balls, juggling them on their chins like trained circus seals. ar ar ar art. I guess they tell themselves it's an art form.

We have to break up the banks, or simply break it down into two words. CAPITAL REQUIREMENTS. Scream it!!!! Over and over. Nothing will change till there is skin in the game. It's short and sweet, so people will get it, and Bloomburg Will, try to outlaw it so it, must be sweet goodness, and it might get some airplay.
07:21 PM on 06/14/2012
Yesterday's Meeting with DimonJ andSenators was nothing more than Ceasar&SenateSalad!
08:13 AM on 06/15/2012
bread and circuses
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07:05 PM on 06/14/2012
So isn't this a reason to give OWS support so that it moves from the scoff of the media, the ridicule of the right, the skepticism of the unsure and become a focused (R)evolution of community in protest at the political, economic and corporate decisions that directly benefit the "have and have more's" while impacting on the rest of us?
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Stanley Bonk
"mad, bad, and dangerous to know"
07:31 PM on 06/14/2012
It should be, but I dobt it will happen.
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01:14 AM on 06/15/2012
Yes you may be right, although I do believe in while I am one, we, are many, if we choose to be.

If............. we choose to be.
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06:58 PM on 06/14/2012
Actress Lucy Lawless faces jail for protesting against oil exploration in the Antartic, while Jamie Dimon looses billions and may have to readjust his million dollar bonus this year. One rule for me and another rule for them.

It's a strange, strange world we live in.
MrStat1
I believe in the rule of law
08:13 PM on 06/14/2012
Different countries, different processes, different laws. Apples and Oranges.
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01:18 AM on 06/15/2012
Yes that is true, but my point is more the inequality that "position" can buy. The system will go softly to criminalise itself although Dimon's actions are one of gambling with someone else's money
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missprissanna
the weight of the news nearly broke my back
06:24 PM on 06/14/2012
The banks can't possibly lose, they bet, then they hedge in case the bet goes wrong...then when it goes wrong taxpayers bail em out or the fed comes in to rescue them...

The long term unemployed and under employed have no way to hedge against hunger and homelessness....

Those who have it all, get even more....those who have little left have nothing but suffering to look forward too...and this is America...
05:52 PM on 06/14/2012
The Financial Markets are Broken , The Commodities Markets are Broken.

The old Capitalist Concept of Supply and Demand to create a price is nothing but a quaint , old idea that no longer applies . In today 's Markets SPECULATION rains supreme.

Power in Financial circles has reached incredible proportions , and now is safe to say that Banks do control the world . If anyone thought that after the Financial debacle cause by Bankers, the public was going to wake up and rise in indignation against all politicians baking them .. They were wrong.

Banks not only control the money, they control the power, and the message .

Nothing has changed. 600 Trillion Dollars of obscure derivatives are still out there, banks are bigger than ever, and the Dimon's of the world continue to enjoy Super Star status among the twisted ranks of WS , for getting away with what in another age would have been considered gross Mismanagement at best , and Unlawful use of Bank Funds at worst .

We are just sleep walking to what can very well become the Greatest Depression .. Mark my words.
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11:00 PM on 06/14/2012
The Financial Markets aren't broken, they have become unbreakable, that's the problem.
09:53 AM on 06/15/2012
I meant "broken" in that they don't work.

70% of trade done in the Markets (Financial and Commodities) , is done by DAY TRADERS , not investors . And most professional day traders use what is commonly known as " High Frequency Trading" ... And by this they DO MEAN High Frequency trading , at a rate of Billions of Dollars in micro seconds , using the world's fastest Computers, and most complex Mathematical algorithms .

This kind of trading makes investors look like fools , because traders NEED VOLATILITY to make money , while Investors need stability . Fact is that hedge funds, and big banks can and will at a moment's notice push entire markets up or down , by taking enormous positions , holding them for a few days and then exiting with big profits ... That come from the rest of us in the Economy .

Oil is a perfect example where Markets push a commodity up PURELY ON SPECULATION ... They make their money basically charging us a tax on their perception of "premium for risk" .. Only they are the ones that conveniently get to price "risk" any darn way they wish to price it .