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NAACP vs. Gay Marriage: Do The Right Thing

Posted: 07/17/09 05:32 PM ET

If the NAACP wants to be a truly inclusive 21st century civil rights organization, it must settle its internal squabbles and officially support same sex marriage. In a year that sees the nation's first black president give a powerful speech on family and social values at the association's 100th anniversary while a Latina woman is about to ascend to the highest court in the land, would any other position make sense? As state after state pushes forward for marriage equality, why should the NAACP act like some backwater province of old ideologies? In an era where the very relevance of a National Association for the Advancement of Colored People seems to be in question, why not show it can -- and should -- still lead the social justice conversation?

On the encouraging side of things, NAACP national chair Julian Bond and president and CEO Benjamin Jealous both support same sex marriage. Opponents of marriage equality -- especially blacks -- should listen to Bond's detailed and powerful speech to the Human Rights Campaign (HRC) earlier this year. In one of the most eloquent cases laid out against homophobia by a black leader (ahem, Mr. President) and in support of full social equality for gays, Bond said, "Black people, out of all people, should not oppose equality. And that is what gay marriage is." He went on to dismantle down to the biblical level the hypocrisy found in the black church. It's as clear a case as I've ever heard made against persistent intolerance towards gays.

In a recent CNN interview, the 30-something Jealous also responded to the gay marriage question, but was less vehement. He espoused his own support for marriage rights while at the same time acknowledging the internal battle over the matter. Jealous seemed to be more comfortable leaving the debate to NAACP stakeholders. Apparently there's even a GLBT Task Force lobbying from within for the NAACP to fully get on the bus for equality. Of course, all of this leaves me wondering why the issue needs to be left to consensus, when basic human rights are what's on the table. Isn't that just part of the group's charter?

As Jealous points out on CNN, choosing your battles is prudent in these turbulent times. The NAACP ranks are filled with well-intentioned, hard working Christians who simply don't believe that God would accept Adam and Andrew sharing a loft in West Hollywood. I get it. Religion and the church remain the muscle of the association and a divided NAACP isn't the desired outcome of any debate. But if the NAACP wants to thrive in the 21st century, it can't kowtow to exclusionary theology. Even in President Obama's entire electrifying speech, he mentions gay rights with the same emphasis as those of the communities the NAACP historically addresses.

Now, I'm not here to bash on religion, or even single out black homophobia as the sole culprit in the marriage equality struggle -- the intolerance camp is a multicultural bunch. The messy and unfair attacks on blacks that emerged from the aftermath of Proposition 8's passage in California was unfortunate and it left many on the defensive. But this doesn't change the fact that the gay marriage movement is also a teachable moment in the black civil rights movement. Bond said in his speech, "It does not matter the rationale... No people of good will should oppose marriage equality."

But I'd be remiss if I didn't hold our president's feet to the flame a bit too. Obama is still skittish about same sex couples being allowed to marry, as opposed to having civil unions. He also hasn't stood firm to remove the military's so-called "don't ask, don't tell"" policy, much to the disappointment of many in the GLBT community. The NAACP should consider right now a very public chance for black leadership to influence the national conversation in a bold way.

In the end -- as is the trend in America as a whole -- demographics will ultimately drive the gay rights battle in the NAACP. An aging layer of more conservative and religious constituents is giving way to a new generation, far more tolerant and progressive. The strict covenants of the black church are of little interest and its antiquated positions -- from rap to sex to HIV -- seem quaint to the Obama Generation. One-hundred years ago the NAACP was founded on a radical principle of equality that was far ahead of its time. Today, the group has a chance to do the right thing again.

 

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05:21 PM on 07/22/2009
So basically, the NAACP should back gay marriage because they're black and black have to worry about other people thinking they're bigoted because they used to be slaves, but it's cool if they don't realize this right away because most of the old ones will die soon and the young ones who aren't religious will come in and support gay marriage and then white gays can stop finger-pointing at the black community for being homophobic.

Yawn.
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Raymond Leon Roker
02:55 AM on 07/21/2009
The entire premise of my argument is based on the NAACP wanting to be an inclusive 21st Century civil rights organization. And this would include those rights that are tangential to black civil rights. One of those rights, if only for the sheer amount of blacks and other gays of color who cannot marry legally, is marriage equality. The NAACP, with some of its members part of the push back on gay marriage (via the church, or however), is also a de facto stakeholder in the marriage equality fight. This, if not readily accepted by some on this post, is how many in the gay community see it.

And if an organization that is a stakeholder in the marriage equality conversation wants to be taken seriously and continue to advance and evolve, it can't sit by and allow an injustice to continue under its nose. Or worse, allow it to be sanctioned or advocated for by some of its members openly and without condemnation. And, a point that seems to get left out of this argument too often, with GLBT members of the NAACP, how do marriage rights not pertain to the association?

Harboring intolerance of any kind is a weight that most definitely holds the harborer down as well. And if we want to be about progress, we can't think in the past.
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liberaldemdave
01:58 PM on 07/20/2009
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/20/brian-kilmeade-apologizes_n_241135.html

in a flash of irony, the r*acist tro//s that lurk in the marriage equality posts are nowhere to be seen here. i guess that speaks volumes about the true "colors" of their indignation about "gay white males" discriminating against people of color.

why aren't tanyars, kutkreata, and their ilk that tro// glbt diaries actually posting their outrage in an article that's actually RELEVANT to their cause?
06:53 PM on 07/20/2009
it is called " I work for a living"
08:46 PM on 07/20/2009
And this work is posting the whole day comments to pro-LBGT articles on HuffPo?
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Derrick Mathis
08:36 PM on 07/19/2009
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Derrick Mathis
06:23 PM on 07/19/2009
Another troubling aspect to some of these posts in relationship to those who have issue with the NAACP supporting marriage equality is that some of these people have the nerve to say they support gay blacks but not gay whites on the issue--that's your argument against black support of marriage equality. In other words, you'd rather cut off your nose to spite your face. You're gonna aid in black gays not receiving their civil rights or the support thereof cause you got issues with gay white people? So us gay blacks are to suffer right---every time we just happen to share the same grievance as the rest of gay culture. Do you people realize how ridiculous and petty you sound? You're not doing anybody any favors with the nonsensical argument of division of race in gay culture. Trust me straight black people---us black gays have been handling white gays this long---we don't need your help in that department. We just need you to stand up for justice for all black Americans---meaning us gay black Americans as well. That's where you can be handy and truly supportive. Support the NAACP in creating a national policy on gay civil rights. That's what you can do for the black gays you say you care about.
06:59 PM on 07/19/2009
Derrick, you don't know me so please don't dismiss my point of view. Instead of misdirecting your anger at the NAACP, take your argument up with GLAAD. Why you are giving them a free pass and not challenging them to take up issues for gays of color? The NAACP created a task force for GLBT's and pledged support for hate crimes against all gay people. It does not have to take up gay marriage too. There are some things that the GLBT community is going to do. Push gay organizations to start giving gays of color a voice and challenging America- not just Black people to support gay marriage. Make them let you speak on TV, not just as a mouthpiece for the larger gay movement, but as a Black person who is gay who has experiences unique to theirs. It woulddo wonders for your movement to spark awareness to the Black community. But constantly berating and shaming Black people is counterproductive. There are many people like me who were indfferent to gay marriage before the ra*ci*st slurs the White gay community started up. I don't understand why you would think that people would support a community who has attacked their race, their church, families and held contempt for the First Black President. Recognize that the Black people on this board are in reaction mode, not attacking mode.
07:13 PM on 07/19/2009
Best Post of the Day Kut!!!!!
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Derrick Mathis
08:05 PM on 07/19/2009
But my black sista u so deeply fail to miss something so significant. First of all, you don't know me. I live in a black world. Black faces are the first thing I see when I wake up and last thing I see when I go to sleep. You keep bringin' up gay white culture. You are my people. I live and breathe you everyday. I'm reaching out to my brothers, sisters, fathers and mothers---you keep trying "delegate" me over to some other people and at the same talk about how they don't have my best interest at heart. I'm talking to you black woman. You're my family. I live with you and look like you more than them---you're who I'm turning to. I will say this much: you and I are way different, baby. Whenever one of my black brothers and sisters reaches out to me from any sector in any part of society I respond the SAM & DAVE way----HOLD ON I'M COMIN'. I don't "send" you to somebody else. I'm here! ALWAYS. No conditions. And to be in this conversation with my black people and be told over and over that I need to go to the white gay man to straighten things out with him and his 'n' blah blah blah. No sweetheart. I ain't tryin' to get with nothin u got to say. Cause u comin' from nuthin.
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03:59 PM on 07/19/2009
"Every man must decide whether he will walk in the light of creative altruism or in the darkness of destructive selfishness." -- Martin Luther King, Jr.
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03:35 PM on 07/19/2009
I'm glad you recognized that my post was directed at you and some of your homophobe buddies here. The bigotry is coming from you, honey, not me. Your comments and those of a few others here have been absolutely shameful. Promoting discrimination against gay people and propping up the bigots is shameful. I have done nothing of the sort.
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04:06 PM on 07/19/2009
The above post was supposed to be a reply to another post, don't know why it shows as a new post.
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03:03 PM on 07/19/2009
What many of the comments here makes perfectly clear is that there is a large majority in the black community who support bigotry and the oppression of people who are different. As equal rights have been obtained, they now want to deny that for others. They are a shameful lot who clearly have a warped view of their own history.
03:27 PM on 07/19/2009
If that's what you learned from this dialogue, I feel sorry for you. And please be careful who you shame. Because I know my history, the b*i*go*try & r*aci*sm that you & others are showing in your comments are glaring to say the least.
06:08 PM on 07/19/2009
You are pathetic.
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Derrick Mathis
03:29 PM on 07/19/2009
Large majority of the black community who support bigotry and oppression? You come to this conclusion based on some comments by a few people here in Huff Post? I guess because of the racists experiences I've had as a gay black man with gay white men then I too must assume that all gay white people are racist, right? There's plenty of diversity in all kinds of ways. If you're not wiling to acknowledge this in its entirety then you're no different than those black individuals who speak out against the NAACP supporting marriage equality. You're just as misguided and just as toxic. And I wish both sides would quit pretending that gay black people don't exist. On your behalf that's a form of racism in itself.
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03:55 PM on 07/19/2009
Unfortunately, what I've read here echoes what I experience in the real world. Sorry you feel I'm "misguided and toxic," I feel the same way about people like Tanyars, Nomo, kutkreata and closetconservative (what an ironic name). I was hoping to have a different type of dialog here, but, it's not much different from going to a conservative site and discussing equal rights for gay people. Let's face it, we are the universally-hated minority in the world which is still okay by most people. Racism still exists. So does homophobia. I'm totally against both. I've spoken out against the racial slurs used against Obama and his beautiful family, and I speak out against homophobia whenever I see it. I see racism and homophobia in the same light, a means for hateful bigoted people to oppress others. How is that me being a racist in your eyes?
06:07 PM on 07/19/2009
You have this gay Latino's support, buddy, on all issues relevant to the black community.
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Derrick Mathis
02:14 PM on 07/19/2009
...the black community has so much on it's plate...Nommo you're a comedian. Laughable. You talk as if this were the '70s. Please catch up with the world. There's no such thing as having too much your "plate" to stand up for justice.
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Leah McElrath Renna
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07:42 AM on 07/19/2009
Thank you for stepping forward and writing a wonderful and persuasive piece on this issue.
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03:16 PM on 07/19/2009
I agree, Leah, but, as you can see here, it's hard to persuade people who feel justified in supporting bigotry and spouting hateful comments about another oppressed minority. This is why there will never be "equal rights" for anyone in this country. As one group gains equal rights, they want to deny and take them away from others. Their righteous words barely mask their hate.
05:49 PM on 07/20/2009
Unfortunately monty it is true. It boggles my mind how people could be so selfish. They wish equality for themselves but not for others. Some people would rather sit and complain about their life when a minority in America is still legally discriminated against. I don't understand what these people want. What else do gays have to go through to be "justified" in gaining equality?
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jsehgal
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01:14 AM on 07/19/2009
It is interesting to note how a misguided rule included in all the three desert religions (Judaism, Chrsitianity and islam) has lodged itself in the psyche of its followers. So strong is this virus meme of homophobia that it refuses to let go and diverts efforts of our best legislators from a host of important issues such as health care reform, bank regulation, wars and the general national bankruptcy. People, note that the fiercest army in Greece (the Spartans) were largely homosexuals. Yet we still outlaw it with our don't tell policies. Give up your silly phobias, already. They have cause untold damage & suffering while costing us plenty.
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02:58 PM on 07/19/2009
Excellent post!
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jamaicalover
Team Obama
07:30 PM on 07/19/2009
Why did you label Judaism, Christinaity and Islam as homophobic? If you don't believe what the bible says then that's you; however, true Christians believe the bible is the word of God. The bible speaks against homosexual behavior as it does murder, adultry, lying, stealing, whoremongering, gossip, coveting against your neighbor, worshiping other gods and the list goes on and on.

People have a right to their religious beliefs even you don't agree with them.
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FearlessFreep
A radical leftist with a JS Woodsworth avatar.
12:28 AM on 07/20/2009
Let's say it's the Bible that's homophobic then.
11:39 PM on 07/18/2009
Here's an idea, why doesn't NAACP seek equal rights for Black Americans.

That fight is not over.

I thought that's what the group was formed to do.
09:04 AM on 07/19/2009
Black LBGT Americans should be excluded in your opinion? Don't answer, I already know.

The point that marriage (not a big wedding btw) wouldn't help them is nonsense. It may not be top priority, but it would be valuable as point out by several commenters more honest than the one the bigots here like.
11:25 PM on 07/18/2009
Good try but no cigar. The NAACP has a different agenda.
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03:06 PM on 07/19/2009
It sure does, and it ain't pretty.
03:31 PM on 07/19/2009
Insult and try to shame the institution and it's constituents, then demand their support....SMDH.
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menmykoko
Feudalism..the original Christian coalition.
10:31 PM on 07/18/2009
Good article.
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Balancement
Timendi causa est nescire. -- Seneca
10:22 PM on 07/18/2009
I've gone from the hope that the high-mindedness of this post originally gave me to realizing, from reading so many of these comments from almost the beginning, that the LGBT community should not hope to find many allies among the Black community.

It makes me sad because I truly believe that we are all in this together in a struggle for equal rights and justice in this nation. So many have posted here with virulence against the LGBT community that it would seem gay people are believed to be "less than" human in the eyes of a lot of the Black community.

I will continue to speak out against discrimination and racism--because it's the right thing to do, the human thing to do, the moral thing to do--but now there will be a certain heaviness on my heart. I had hoped we were all better than what I have witnessed here.
11:00 PM on 07/18/2009
Very well said.

*stands and applauds*
11:51 PM on 07/18/2009
Beautiful post, thank you for that.