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Rep. Barney Frank

Rep. Barney Frank

Posted: February 5, 2010 02:13 PM

Reversing a Wrong -- Repealing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"

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Over the past two weeks, President Obama and leading members of his administration have earned the gratitude of all of us who oppose unfair discrimination in their repudiation of the policy that has refused to allow many patriotic gay and lesbian Americans to serve in our country's military, and which has denigrated and degraded the service of many others.

For some time, it has been acknowledged by military leaders that the policy of denying gay and lesbian military personnel the ability to be honest about who they are was in no way based on any deficiency in their service. Twenty years ago, then-Defense Secretary Dick Cheney and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chair Colin Powell acknowledged that the ban did not reflect any problem with the dedication or ability of those servicemembers who had been so highly motivated to serve their country that they did so in the face of a discriminatory policy aimed specifically at them. Unfortunately, at that time, neither man was prepared to repudiate this form of discrimination, even while effectively acknowledging that there were no fair reasons for it.

As he promised in his campaign, President Obama has led the way in reversing this shameful pattern of condoning the mistreatment of gay and lesbian Americans who wish to serve our country. And his strong words in the State of the Union Speech were supported admirably by the Secretary of Defense and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

As a gay man, I want to pay particular tribute to the decency, integrity, and courage of Admiral Mullen, who so clearly stated his opposition to a policy that has been deeply unfair to many men and women with whom he himself has served. I regret that Republican Members of the Committee saw fit to use this example of Admiral Mullen's courage as a basis for unfair criticism.

With this reaffirmation of the President's commitment, the strong statement of Admiral Mullen, and the support of Secretary Gates, the way is now clear for both houses of Congress to vote in this year's Defense Authorization to remove one of the few explicit endorsements of bigotry in our country. Secretary Gates says that he needs some time to prepare, but in fact, proceeding to pass repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" in both houses will take no longer than a review. The President is unlikely to have the Defense Authorization bill on his desk to sign until much later in the year, and with the Secretary of Defense proceeding now to plan for the implementation, there will be plenty of time for that plan to be completed before the bill is passed. I am unclear as to exactly what forms of implementation the Secretary thinks he needs, since it is acknowledged that gay men and lesbians have served bravely and ably in the military for some time, and have done so increasingly with the knowledge of their fellow servicemembers.

I particularly welcome the long-overdue commitment by Secretary Gates and Admiral Mullen to end discharges that in fact violate even the spirit of the unfair policy. President Clinton, in my judgment, deserves credit for trying to get this ban rescinded, and he has been unfairly criticized by those who do not realize that he tried and simply did not have the political force to succeed at that time. But since the enactment of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," some gay and lesbian servicemembers have been discharged despite the fact that they never revealed their sexual orientation. But because they were reported by third parties -- generally out of some form of malice -- their careers were destroyed in ways that were not contemplated by the initial policy.

The commitment by the Secretary to end the practice of listening to third parties, rifling people's mail or email and in other ways discovering the sexuality of gay men and lesbians -- other than by forms of information specified in the policy -- is extremely welcome. In my judgment, an honest application of the policy as it was promulgated will reduce the number of discharges by well over 90%.

But that is of course not enough, and what is absolutely essential for the sake of fairness is to repeal the policy altogether. I look forward to working with my colleagues, Congressman Patrick Murphy and Senator Kirsten Gillibrand and also with others in the House and Senate who have taken the lead in confronting this unfairness.

Finally, the argument that we should not repeal "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" because we are in the midst of two wars is badly flawed. Ironically, the religious fundamentalist terrorists we are fighting generally agree with the defenders of this discriminatory policy in their opposition to the principle that gay men and lesbians should be treated fairly.

More importantly, the notion that we should continue to deny our military the service of thousands of Americans who want to serve, precisely at a time when we need people to serve, is turning logic absolutely on its head.

 
Over the past two weeks, President Obama and leading members of his administration have earned the gratitude of all of us who oppose unfair discrimination in their repudiation of the policy that has r...
Over the past two weeks, President Obama and leading members of his administration have earned the gratitude of all of us who oppose unfair discrimination in their repudiation of the policy that has r...
 
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John Mainstream
I'm a Clinton Democrat that is now an independent.
11:28 AM on 02/09/2010
The Democrats will never repeal DADT. They will continue pretend to support gay rights. President Obama should just stop enforcing DADT, but not talk about it.
11:14 AM on 02/09/2010
Go Barney! Make this happen!! These kids are putting their lives on the line at this very moment for everyone of us. It's appauling every minute that this discrimina­tion continues!­!
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09:41 AM on 02/09/2010
“the religious fundamenta­list terrorists we are fighting generally agree with the defenders of this discrimina­tory policy in their opposition to the principle that gay men and lesbians should be treated fairly.”

Whereas the American ethos once was: I may not concur with your choices. But I’ll fight to the death, for the freedom of choice.
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lightbulb10
08:21 AM on 02/09/2010
I wonder if he's still maintainin­g military spend should decrease.
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Das Hirschenhofer 11
Trying to live outside the box;c)
06:23 AM on 02/09/2010
But since the enactment of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," some gay and lesbian service members have been discharged despite the fact that they never revealed their sexual orientatio­n. But because they were reported by third parties -- generally out of some form of malice -- their careers were destroyed in ways that were not contemplat­ed by the initial policy.

I know this to be true as a veteran, I've seen it first hand. It's sad some one would be so cruel as to effect someone else's job and or career because he or she did not approve of there life style. What business is it of anyone's what a soldier does after the days final formation? How would it feel to have command ask you why were you seen at a Baptist Church last night? (Please note, I am a recovering Baptist and have every right to point the church out).

Let them live a life of there choosing!!­!!....Damn it!!
peowlemeow
Democrat,non-military,undereducated,overworked
04:22 AM on 02/09/2010
The country being hung up on what should be obvious rights.The­re are so many other important issues to work on. How people of consenting age relate isn't one of them.Why anyone thinks someone elses business is their own I don't know.I'd rather have universal health care than debate how,where and why other people screw.
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RockyMissouri
'You must be carefully taught to hate'...
08:28 PM on 02/08/2010
They have, and will, and still do serve with pride!
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Redwood Eagle
Treehugging, Hippy, Druid Grandfather
08:21 PM on 02/08/2010
We're the ONLY country that has a problem with this. Why is that?
11:32 AM on 02/09/2010
Pretty crazy! I feel like our country was moving forward 10 years ago. Then the Conservati­ves took control and I feel like we are headed towards the dark ages led by a book that is over 2000 yrs old and interpreta­tion is not allowed to evolve. When you visit Europe people are traditiona­l but intelligen­t enough to grow. We fear everything in this country except Armageddon and are determined to make it happen. I cannot believe it is 2010 in America and we are so ignorant especially about this issue!
12:47 PM on 02/08/2010
Why are you acting like this is such a simple issue? Should gay people be allowed to serve openly in the military? Yes, but DADT is there for their benefit, not to prosecute them. As someone who served (no, I'm not gay, but I believe everyone should be allowed to serve as long as they are mentally and physically able), I can say that many people aren't as open-minde­d as most, to put it mildly. There WOULD be catastroph­ic results if this was simply repealed with nothing put in place to prevent violent consequenc­es. It's just the truth of the matter. Just as it took time for whites and blacks to work, fight and live amongst each other (yes, there are still problems even today), it will take time for this to work as well. You can't put gay and straight people in such potentiall­y uncomforta­ble situations and not expect bad things to happen.
01:18 PM on 02/08/2010
I personally think that DADT needs to be repealed, but sadly, I don't believe it is the right time. I'm sure that I will get attacked plenty by saying that, and I know that in the past people have also said that it is not the right time. But this time, it REALLY isn't the right time. With two wars going on, and an obvious amount of homophobes still active in the military, I fear that homosexual­s in the military are protected by DADT. I fear that homophobes under the pressure of two wars may act out on openly gay soldiers because of the stress that comes when serving during war time. I understand that most of you don't feel that way, but I really only post this for my concerns for homosexual­s serving. They are great Americans and deserve to serve openly, I just think it is the wrong time.
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JustMyWords
07:01 PM on 02/08/2010
There will never be a 'right time,' just as there wasn't a 'right time' to wait for integratin­g the armed forces.

Why the assumption that gay soldiers are going to somehow be instantly out? Unlike someone's skin color, a gay soldier serving with people he knows are dangerousl­y homophobic (and they don't hide) isn't likely to jump up and start singing Broadway show tunes.

Gay soldiers are not likely to change their behavior because DADT is repealed. All that would change is that they could quit looking over their shoulders and living in fear of being kicked out of the service because of a slip of the tongue, or because someone else decides to make his sexual orientatio­n known.

I'm going out on a limb, but I'm assuming that all the armed forces already have rules in place that would prohibit 'violent consequenc­es.' Special rules aren't needed - the service will simply need to enforce the rules already in place.
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John Raines
08:12 PM on 02/08/2010
Yes, it will take time, and that clock will not begin ticking until benighted views such as yours are repudiated with decisive action, such as the repeal of discrimina­tory policies.
09:32 AM on 02/08/2010
WITH all due respect SIR, INSTEAD of focusing on an issue that would only serve a select group. Why aren't you taking care of business, like MAKING sure banks and those who loan money, follow strict guidelines that would make sure people who borrow money can pay back their debts. THEN work on this issue. Skirting around important issues that the majority of America would benefit from IS NOT the way to secure a MORJORITY in BOTH HOUSES. We want JOBS, we want OUR TROOPS HOME, etc, ect, ect...What part of this picture do both party's miss. I don't get it. I'd like to FIRE all of you and start all over AGAIN. GAWDS...Yo­u're all worthless. O AND TERM LIMITS WOULD BE A GRAND START.
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Lance734
10:46 AM on 02/08/2010
"WITH all due respect SIR, INSTEAD of focusing on an issue that would only serve a select group. Why aren't you taking care of business, ... THEN work on this issue. Skirting around important issues that the majority of America would benefit from IS NOT the way to secure a MORJORITY in BOTH HOUSES. "

I don't think this is a fair cristicism­. 1st, repealing DADT doesn't affect just one small group. If you paid attention to the military commanders­' testimony last week, DADT weakens national security & military readiness which affects us all. 2nd, what you're advocating would mean that oppressed people should never have their wrongs redressed b/c when the govt targets a particular group for discrimina­tion, efforts to ends that mistreatme­nt can always be characteri­zed as "serving a select group". And since the vast majority of all Americans, even social conservati­ves, support repeal of DADT, what possible reason is there not to just get rid of it and call it a day? There are always so many worthwhile issues to tackle, so your stance amounts to never doing anything to end discrimina­tion. With all due respect, that's ridiculous­.
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ArnoldZiffle
Former swimsuit model for JC Penney
12:25 PM on 02/08/2010
It's called "multitask­ing." It's not really that hard.
09:06 AM on 02/08/2010
Let's reverse another wrong while we are at it. That would be your lack of leadership and your cushy position on the House Finance Committee where you give lip service to financial reform while mocking the American people. Take an oath to accept no corporate money and publicly adopt a policy of transforma­tional change in Washington­. Just as you seek change of equality in our military.

Of course, that will never happen because you are one of Washington­'s greatest hypocrits.
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FZliveson
Beating the Conundrum
01:55 PM on 02/08/2010
Seconded!
08:12 AM on 02/08/2010
This from the man who called the gay rights march last year a "waste of time".

http://raw­story.com/­2009/2009/­10/openly-­gay-lawmak­er-calls-g­ay-rights-­march-a-wa­ste-of-tim­e/
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Joel Redman
Proud liberal
06:19 PM on 02/08/2010
In all honesty, I didn't see much come out of that. Did you?
05:54 AM on 02/08/2010
The Democrats will be too timid or conservati­ve and will back down ... again.
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lightbulb10
08:20 AM on 02/09/2010
Do you mean to say that they are so used to posturing that they can't tell the difference anymore? Only the public can tell them what they truly intend to do?

:)
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rstewart3
09:25 AM on 02/09/2010
This is why the repeal of DADT is probably going to be added to the Defense Authorizat­ion. They know that this is the Republican­'s baby, and the only sure-fire way to get it to pass is put it in something that they know they Republican­s won't say no to.

Now, do not misunderst­and my comment as being against repealing DADT. I was in the military when DADT was implemente­d, and my feeling then, as now, is that it shouldn't matter whether they serve or not. The military is suppose to be a profession­al organizati­on(s), and when we are on the job (technical­ly 24/7, but you know what I mean), then we are expected to be profession­als and do our jobs. After you get home and take off your uniform, and until you report for muster when you are suppose to next, then as far as I am concerned, you are on your personal time, and you do what you want to do.
03:02 AM on 02/08/2010
Good.
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zetacplus
Conservatism has failed America
02:04 AM on 02/08/2010
Let's just hope Obama doesn't screw this up like everything else.
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Das Hirschenhofer 11
Trying to live outside the box;c)
06:27 AM on 02/09/2010
Another I want it now socialite! Seriously though, how do you feel he has not accomplish­ed anything??­? Didn't you see the mess that was left for him to clean up? I do not understand yours and others attitude about Obama? I would love to meet a human being capable of turning everything around in 2009 after 15 years of screw up's!
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rstewart3
09:32 AM on 02/09/2010
So, say President Obama is in office for two terms, and still fails to push through most of what he campaigned on, would it still be because he hasn't had enough time to work on it? I am just saying that he needs to draw the line somewhere and start moving forward, instead of tossing it back to the past and blaming all of that.

Case in point, If I fail to do something I set out to do, I can't just blame it on my father, who was an abusive alcoholic, everytime. At some point, I had to grow up, and start accepting my own responsibi­lities, with the understand­ing that while my past may have some influence on what happens now, I am still my own person, all grown up and with my own future to forge.
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Das Hirschenhofer 11
Trying to live outside the box;c)
06:30 AM on 02/09/2010
I will publicly say I am sorry for any name calling here, please except my apologizes zetzcplus. I get overly passionate when Obama is being (as I see it) attacked only after a year in office. It's not personal, it's passion OK?