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Closing the Gender Gap

Posted: 10/13/10 04:44 PM ET

The United States is making progress when it comes to closing the gender gap, according to a new report from the World Economic Forum. However, the U.S. still trails 18 countries, and on the critical question of wage equality, we didn't make the top 50.

The Global Gender Gap Index ranks 134 countries on how they are doing at eliminating inequality between men and women in the areas of economic participation and opportunity, educational attainment, health and survival and political empowerment. For the first time in the index's five-year history, the United States cracked the top 20, moving up 12 places to 19, driven by high levels of educational attainment for women.

Digging a little deeper into the numbers, the U.S. ranked a dismal 64th on wage equality for similar work, which is consistent with recent research in the United States showing that progress closing the pay gap has slowed for women and stalled completely for working moms.

A study that I requested from the Government Accountability Office, focusing on the representation and pay of women and men in management across 13 major industries, found that the pay gap for childless women managers narrowed two cents between 2000 and 2007, but management moms made no progress during this time.

At a time when women's jobs are increasingly important to their households' overall income, a growing body of research shows that women's paychecks take a big hit when they become moms. Indeed, Dr. Michelle J. Budig, a sociologist at UMass Amherst, concluded that the wage penalty for mothers costs the typical woman worker $1,100 per child, per year.

Even worse, the penalty is greatest among low-wage workers, with those at the bottom of the income ladder paying the steepest price.

Skeptics of the pay gap say the difference in pay between men and women, and fathers and mothers, results because male workers are more educated and more experienced. But when you adjust for education and age and other factors, you are left with the unexplained differences -- you are a left with a persistent pay gap.

In fact, while women have been making consistent progress in closing the education gap, it hasn't translated into a narrowing of the pay gap.

Something else is at work here. Conversations with men and women from all kinds of work settings together with the best available research suggest that working moms continue to face discrimination -- sometimes blatant -- and at other times, more subtle forms that play out in hiring, compensation, and promotion decisions.

Part of addressing the persistent pay gap is aggressively challenging gender stereotypes wherever they appear -- in the media, our workplaces, our communities. But there is also a need to strengthen the law that addresses gender discrimination.

When Congress returns after the election for its lame duck session, the Senate should pass the Paycheck Fairness Act and send it on to the President. It will strengthen the original Equal Pay Act by:

  • Prohibiting employers from punishing employees for sharing salary information with co-workers.
  • Making discrimination costly to employers by making those who bring gender discrimination cases eligible for compensatory and punitive damages as is the case with race and ethnicity discrimination cases.
  • Developing new training programs for women and girls on how to negotiate compensation packages and recognizing employers who have eliminated pay disparities.

Families are increasingly dependent on wives' incomes, with wives' earnings now accounting for 36 percent of total income. But, as much as equal pay is about family economics, it's also about our country's values. People -- whether they are women or men, moms or dads, black or white -- should be paid the same amount for the same work.

So, let's celebrate the progress women have made in the U.S., as reflected in the new Global Gender Gap rankings. But let's also take actions to ensure that the progress continues.

Congresswoman Carolyn B. Maloney represents parts of Queens and Manhattan in the U.S. House of Representatives where she is the Chair of the U.S. Congress Joint Economic Committee.

 
 
 
 
 
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10:00 PM on 10/14/2010
In terms of real people's live, this may well be the most important thing proposed:

"Prohibiting employers from punishing employees for sharing salary information with co-workers.".

How n earth are we supposed to know what our jobs are worth if we can get fired from finding out?
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09:11 PM on 10/15/2010
I've often wondered that myself. If you do find out by accessing information you weren't authorized to access, it's inadmissible in court, and you're right, it could also get you fired.
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01:42 PM on 10/14/2010
Can we please quit saying "This" and "that" are "against our country's values?" Look at the history of this country! When has the country ever had these supposed values of treating everyone with equal full human rights?? Never. I agree we should work towards making these actually be our values, but we need to quit acting as if it is and always has been.
12:19 PM on 10/14/2010
The Congress woman wrote the following:

A study that I requested from the Government Accountability Office, focusing on the representation and pay of women and men in management across 13 major industries, found that the pay gap for childless women managers narrowed two cents between 2000 and 2007, but management moms made no progress during this time

In that study that she cites it also stated that female managers on AVERAGE worked fewer hours, had less experience, and less education. Which would explain why on AVERAGE they made less money. Studies have shown that if you take in all the other factors that go into a person's pay that women DO NOT make less than what men make. In some situations they even make more than what men make.

It isn't like that information is unknown to Democrats in government. So why do politicians like this Congress woman insist on making a non-issue an issue. They want more government control period. That is the Democrat party's solution for every problem heck it is their solution to things that aren't really problems. They try to create the sense that their is a problem so that people will be willing to turn more power over to them.
12:37 PM on 10/14/2010
It's sad that a government representative can take such a ideological view at this data....(and present it inaccurately). The Global Gender Gap report that the congresswoman references is also nothing more that political ideology. It doesnt measure equality....it measures only area's where women are perceived as having less advantage as men....in areas where woman are perceived as having advantage over men....the data is not included....some equality.
09:09 AM on 10/14/2010
There seems to be a fundamental intellectual merry-go-round, in gathering up the vast information that Huffington Post brings forward. The question evolves around being pro Democrat or a rousing Republican. Clearly, we have a jungle of vast information to dig through with the ever lingering hope to arrive at some self-sane conclusion, as to cut through the very gist of what is put before all readers. In essence, Huffingting is up to par with journalistic professionalism. As a not to order Democrat nor a professed Republican, we might need a new state bird instead of the Eagle that Benjamin Franklin disliked, Franklin proposed the Turkey as a state bird in the the eagle is more prone to swoop down on his prey unsuspectingly. Since we have ignored the turkey, why not accept the buzzard as a state symbol. This bird is known to feast upon decayed corpses, perching in trees at night, and puking their guts out,. Congress is only a delayed reaction headed for the under taker's slab. Buzzards are awaiting this unsightly dish of political whoredom. The problem is if these birds can stomach half-baked scoundrels.
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09:02 AM on 10/14/2010
Another important deception to bring out into the open is the claim that women are less in-demand because they might get pregnant.
Symptoms of pregnancy, for most jobs (and the exceptions are usually not high-paying ones), is not any more intrusive than any other family crisis that a male or female worker might have. What is seen as intrusive is the leave to take care of the child- but it is blatantly sexist to assume that it is the woman and woman alone who must be the one to take this leave. In all fairness, this should even out by the probability of men fathering a child and taking leave to help raise the child (or even leaving the workforce to be the primary caregiver).
Using statistical probability to discriminate is profiling that is unethical, possibly illegal. For instance, paying black men lower wages because they are statistically "more likely" to commit a violent crime is racism.
So obviously paying women less because they are statistically more likely to leave the workforce to care for a child is sexist. And such a scheme only perpetuates the stereotype by making it harder for women to work their way up.

If anything women should be paid more because they are also expected to put extra labor into "beautifying" themselves (I'm joking... kind of- this is another ridiculous double standard in corporate America).
04:25 PM on 10/14/2010
The women who get paid less don't get paid less because they might get pregnant. They get paid because they choose professions and jobs where they work fewer hours. That give more benefits and more flexible hours. The statistics that are cited don't compare a man and woman whose only difference is their gender. When you equalize all the other factors the pay gap goes away. In polls 75% of men say that their pay is their primary purpose of working while only 25% of women say the same thing. Men are 20 times more likely to die, meaning for every 1 woman that dies 20 men do, on the job than women are. Men are more likely to take the jobs where they HAVE to pay people more to get anyone to do them.
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07:45 AM on 10/14/2010
Is it a surprise to anyone that the people on this thread assuring us that the gender gap is a myth are all men?
12:40 PM on 10/14/2010
Who pays the price for allowing this rhetoric to go unchallenged?....men.
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12:42 AM on 10/14/2010
And now I am reminded, again, of why I don't have a kid...
09:21 PM on 10/13/2010
Carolyn, I am a male voter IN YOUR DISTRICT, and you have just lost my vote. As a male, I find this sort of discrimination despicable.

What have you to say about the OUTRIGHT DISCRIMINATION against males in the awarding of federal contracts??? When women are given advantageous "priority points" in federal contracting MERELY FOR BEING FEMALE, that is outright DISCRIMINATION in black and white letter of the law. Why are you not fighting against ACTUAL FEDERAL DISCRIMINATION against men?

This sickens me and hardens my resolve to actively work against you.
09:07 PM on 10/13/2010
This idea that there is a gender gap has been completely debunked. Why do some people still cling to it?
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09:21 PM on 10/13/2010
Reality says otherwise, that is why.
09:35 PM on 10/13/2010
No, reality give lie to this myth

From the department of labor - read the report. It is time for this wage gap MYTH to die

Click on the link to the report made FOR THE DEPT OF LABOR ITSELF
http://www.the-spearhead.com/2010/03/08/department-of-labor-gender-wage-gap-a-myth/
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12:42 AM on 10/14/2010
Thank you, ponderingmuch, for standing up for women against the haters. Faved all the comments on this page (fanned you ages ago.)
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08:45 PM on 10/13/2010
Where I work, as time goes on and they have less and less money, they hire women for less money than they gave men who had the jobs previously and left of their own accord.

I do not know if there is a way to put that into the statistics, but it is real.

If the trend keeps up, there will be no men anywhere except on the millionaire level left in the work force.

It will be interesting to see what happens then.
08:52 PM on 10/13/2010
I think this sounds a bit silly.

Ummmm...where do the men go? Oh, right...they go to that million $$$ job.
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08:56 PM on 10/13/2010
Well, a lot of them thought they could do better and the places they went (in my field) have gone under, for the same reasons my place has less money.

So these guys are unemployed and freaking out.
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07:43 AM on 10/14/2010
So true.
My community, until recently, had a very large manufacturing base which paid (mostly male) unskilled laborers $25 - $35/hr. Those jobs are gone and the men are not only out of work but many are now out of benefits. The jobs available now are all minimum wage jobs and employers tend only to hire women for those jobs because they have the idea that even unskilled male workers won't work for minimum wage.
My husband was one of those workers and fortunately for him, he qualified for a program that paid to allow him to go back to school to become a nurse but most of his co-workers are still out of work... luckily, their wives have all managed to find minimum wage jobs.

The really sad fact is the one that soon the gender gap will be closed because wages are only rising on the upper job levels. With so many out of work now, employers are beginning to reduce wages and men and women are working for less.
12:02 PM on 10/14/2010
What is the employer supposed to do if ONLY women show up for the minimum wage jobs and that is the going rate for the job?

Employers reduce wages when they are losing money. Maybe it takes owning your own company to understand these simple facts.
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08:44 PM on 10/13/2010
Women, Girls, Females: In the 60's men and women shed most of the questionable gender roles. Then cam the Drug testing and Nixon;'s war on pot. Understandably most of you could not afford to fight the establishment. Instead you chose a very old fashioned gender role, ball room dancing, ballroom dresses and black tie suits for the men. Pretty women and rich, powerful men. Figure it out. That puts you down.
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08:48 PM on 10/13/2010
Person, you smoke too much weed. That makes no sense at all to a person not on weed.
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09:24 PM on 10/13/2010
Yet it's your comment that lacks all meaning....Try a real argument, not ad hominem one.
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09:46 PM on 10/13/2010
search gender 60's
if you dare.....
08:23 PM on 10/13/2010
Lies, damn lies, and statistics.

This "gender gap" is totally bunk. It doesn't exist, and EVEN if it did, government has no legitimate role trying to enforce a subjective notion of fairness on voluntary economic transactions.

If businesses really could get "equal" work from women for less pay, then they would never hire men.
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08:46 PM on 10/13/2010
See above...that is exactly what is happening in my work place.
08:59 PM on 10/13/2010
Spot on. It's always funny when I hear this line of argument. If I could hire all women, who would do as good a job as a bunch of men, for say....$45,000 per year instead of $80,000....I'd do it in a heart beat. The truth is lots of women are as good a workers as lots of men. When you introduce pregnancy and infants and child care issues, etc. the personal life of the employee crimps the productivity. I actually like to hire women over men, more fun for me....I relate to women a bit better....however I want a woman with no children, or grown children. I have been through the "Little Snotleigh is in the school play and I have to leave NOW!" too, too many times. I have one rule and that is the job is what it is....I'm very clear at hiring that it is not a 9 - 5 gig. Sometimes it is 9 - 3 sometimes 7 - 10 at night. These are salary positions and you have to do what you have to do. Women with little babies GENERALLY have their priorities fall in line with the kid, not the stressful job. I don't blame them, but it's not going to work.
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09:24 PM on 10/13/2010
So keep hiring the over 50 women, and pay them less than you would a 38 year old man, and lets just see what happens. maybe society will be better! Or maybe worse! We do know that the lower the salaries of the professional/middle class and middle class, the worse a society does, overall, kids or not kids, so we shall find out.
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09:46 PM on 10/13/2010
Meanwhile, I want the $80,000 and I am available to work 24/7.
08:13 PM on 10/13/2010
Of course I believe in equal pay for all people. That said, I like how she throws the stuff in about "Moms" being payed un-equally. Honestly, how disengenuous can you be. If a "mom" makes the decision to be a "mom" and takes 1-5 years off....well, she is going to get out of line for star assignments and promotions which means less of a paycheck. I have seen smart women that chose not to have a child rise like cream in a big corporation. I've seen women decide to have a child, take 3 months off, put in the 60-70 hours the rest of us do and make the same money as the rest of us. I've seen a woman take 3 months off then return to work and sluff off huge amounts of work, want to leave early and play the "Little Sashimi has a doctors apt. so somebody has to cover for me." It's all about how you handle your career/job/personal life. I've also seen some men play the "I have to go to little Stewarts Tai-Kwondo match"...these people don't get to the top of the pile. I think having kids is great, but you are making a choice and if you take 3-5 off, bully for you and I think it good for the kid, but you are not going to come back at the place your co workers are. Would love to hear this woman's reply.
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08:20 PM on 10/13/2010
But that's not the norm. Most working mothers I know only took 3 to 6 months off after the birth of each child--which, by the way, is far less time than is afforded women in Canada and Europe--and returned to their same duties with their same hours and their same responsibilities. What happens, however, is that their bosses ASSUME they don't want to take on more assignments or be in line for promotion because they have a young child. But in fact, most new moms are never even asked if they wish to be considered for the promotion.

It's true many women want to dial back their work commitments when they have young kids at home. But it's also true that many don't and shouldn't have their careers dictated by antiquated notions of what it means to be a good mother.
08:49 PM on 10/13/2010
If a boss assumes the new mommy doesn't want to take on more assignement or be in line for a promotion, the new mommy should discuss her career goals with her boss. And then put in the same or more effort as everybody else in her position does. A boss is not going to manage anybodys career. It's up to the individual.

I don't think there are many antiquated notions of motherhood/workforse lately. You get what you produce. I'm sure there are a few exceptions, but the vast majority of bosses want great, productive employees and if you keep your personal life out of the office they don't care if you have 10 kids and 20 cats at home. I think you know that a lot of new moms bring their personal problems into the office and do sluff off work. Most co-workers have about had it with this type of person...and tell them to buzz off if they want to leave early or can't stay to finish a project when everybody else rearranges their personal life to get that project done.
12:44 PM on 10/14/2010
Yes, but when they come back to work, they can no longer work the same hours that they use to. Maybe now they can't travel. That's what happens in my shop. If women want the pay gap to narrow, the best thing they can do is fight for paternal rights.
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01:51 AM on 10/14/2010
SOMEBODY has to bear the children to continue our species and supply the future workers to change the depends of those in the nursing home that will shelter you when you get old.

Maybe father should be fighting for the right to take time off to attend school plays and sick children so we can have child care parity. That will level the playing field for moms, expecting more men to be more involved with parenting.

For those fathers in the workplace who are already involved parents, i. e. single custodial parents or who have good family sick leave policies, I salute you.
02:12 AM on 10/14/2010
Most women want kids and do have them. That's normal and fine. We need kids.

Fathers usually don't like the role you describe. Bully for those that do, but most don't and won't. You can expect a man to clean and cook and take little Snotleigh to the doctor but most men just don't want to.

A woman has to make decisions about having kids and how that will affect a career if she wants one. The boss is going to promote the most productive. Nobody cares about your personal life or how difficult it is to juggle work/kids. Men aren't going to turn into women. It's in the woman's court as to how she wants her life arranged....what is most important. Nobody else really gives a hoot.

You can try to legislate this "equality" all you want. But if a woman leaves the workforce for a large chunk of time or keeps working, but is less "there", she will not get the promotions and high salary. And most men in reality have no desire to do the major child care. It's called reality. Better to get a grip and realize this instead of demanding special treatment because of your personal choices.
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thinklib
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08:09 PM on 10/13/2010
This article is ridiculous.

First off, companies have the right to pay employees whatever they want - whether it's an exorbitant amount or very little. It all depends on what the company thinks the employee is worth.

Likewise, employees have the right to leave any company they think isn't paying them what they're worth.

This equal pay garbage is just that. If two people make widgets, but one person is better and faster at it than the other, plus he or she puts in longer hours, and perhaps contributes in other ways, then by all means the better person should make better money. If not, they're free to make widgets for someone else.

Making laws regulating pay is very dangerous territory. And dare I say, unAmerican.
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08:53 PM on 10/13/2010
So say the woman makes the better widgets, but the man is more intimidating, but no so much to get fired.

Should he get paid more because they are more afraid of him?
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thinklib
I will not mince words.
09:10 PM on 10/13/2010
Should the intimidating man get paid more? Absolutely not, all else being equal.

But it's the company's fault for paying him more. If they don't like his intimidation, they should can him and find someone else, man or woman. One problem with that, however, is it's often very difficult to find good people. So many companies put up with less-than-perfect employees because of the difficulty in finding decent people.

Perhaps the woman should go in and demand more money. If she doesn't, that's her fault.
11:59 AM on 10/14/2010
I know of no employer that would want an intimidating employee that performed poorly over a better performing socially more adept employee. This is an argument?
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07:34 AM on 10/14/2010
Well, you're right about one thing.. it is unAmerican to pay women equal wages to men... but that's not really something to brag about.
06:20 PM on 10/13/2010
Equal pay is about the rights of individuals in employment. Associating it with 'family' is conformance to a ritual required of politicians. The complex associations between women and earners and equal pay do not have any bearing whatsoever upon the argument for equal pay, which rests entirely upon the notion that all human beings are equal.
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thinklib
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08:11 PM on 10/13/2010
So Alvin Green should make as much as Einstein?

When it comes to productivity, intelligence, and initiative, are all human beings really equal?
04:50 AM on 10/14/2010
Same work, same pay. That is the issue.