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Rep. Carolyn Maloney

Rep. Carolyn Maloney

Posted: October 22, 2010 09:46 AM

Privatizing Social Security was a bad idea in 2005 when it was proposed by President Bush and rejected by the American people. It's still a bad idea, despite recent Republican attempts to revive it.

Three new analyses out this week make clear that GOP proposals would cut benefits for middle-income Americans, jeopardize the solvency of the Social Security Trust Fund and weaken the program's ability to keep millions of Americans out of poverty.

The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities (CBPP), the Chief Actuary of Social Security, and the U.S. Congress Joint Economic Committee (JEC), which I chair, have each weighed in on the Social Security proposal introduced by Republican Congressman Paul Ryan. While Republicans have sought to recast their proposals as modest changes to the current system, they are anything but that.

The new CBPP report finds that Rep. Ryan's proposal would reduce benefits for the top 70 percent of earners by linking Social Security benefits to change in prices, rather than changes in wages, as is now the case. Additionally, increasing Social Security's full retirement age, as called for in Ryan's plan, would reduce benefits for everyone regardless of when they retire.

According to the Chief Actuary of Social Security, the "progressive price indexing" proposal would reduce benefits by 17 percent compared to current law for a new retiree in 2050 with medium earnings ($43,000 today). The cuts get deeper over time and are steeper for higher income workers. By 2080, benefits converge at a much lower level, with little difference in benefits for high earners and medium earners. At that point, Social Security would bear little resemblance to today's program, where benefits are based on a worker's lifetime earnings.

The JEC report, prepared by the committee's Majority Staff, looks at privatization, where future retirees are able to divert a portion of their payroll taxes to private investment accounts. Privatization would allow all retirement savings accumulated by retirees to be subject to fluctuations in the performance of asset markets, including the stock market, where significant swings in returns and account accumulations are possible from year to year and even month to month.

A worker with a private account could purchase an annuity with a fixed monthly payment at the end of his or her working life. However, the size of that monthly payment depends on the timing of retirement relative to the performance of the different asset markets that the retiree had invested in. For example, a retiree who invested solely in the stock market over a 40-year work history and was expecting an annuity of $867 per month in 2006 would have received only $399 per month if he had retired in 2008.

Republicans claim that the Social Security Trust Fund would ensure that individuals who invest in private accounts will get back as much as they put in, plus indexing for inflation, even if the stock market craters. But such a guarantee - where private account holders win when the stock market is up, and don't lose when the stock market falls - must have another source of funds during bear markets. Without additional funds to pay for this one-sided bet, the solvency of the General Fund will be at risk.

While Social Security benefits are modest, they have a major impact. Without Social Security, nearly half (46 percent) of senior citizens would live in poverty, but with Social Security the poverty rate for elderly Americans falls to 10 percent. Indeed, Social Security accounts for more than 76 percent of income for middle-class seniors.

The Republicans ignore these facts and plan to radically change a program that provides economic security and peace of mind to millions of Americans. Their proposals are either a misguided belief in the stock market's ability to miraculously "save" Social Security or a cynical attempt to gut a successful program that has kept generations of Americans economically secure.

The more we learn about privatization and progressive price indexing, the worse -- and riskier -- the ideas look.


Congresswoman Carolyn Maloney represents parts of Queens and Manhattan in the House of Representatives, where she chairs the U.S. Congress Joint Economic Committee.

 
 
 
 
 
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12:52 PM on 11/27/2010
Middle-class conservatives and elderly conservatives voted overwhelmingly for the tea party and the Palin's agenda now as the new GOP party began the onslaught of taking apart the social programs that have sustained the very two groups through this downturn in the economy
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12:56 AM on 10/27/2010
The worst president's worst idea, aside from agreeing at some juncture to be Karl Rove's puppet.
04:15 PM on 10/25/2010
The republicans think we are a bunch of mindless fools! They will stop at nothing to regain there control of this government. They are so hell bent in doing this, that, they will literally put this country on it knees and all of its citizens with it.

The social security program would be in great shape today if the greedy people that are now ,and in the past ,that are running this country would stop spending our money. I believe this to be true even with the present ratio of contributors/retirees.

Like Warren Buffet said'take the cap off people like me,we would never feel the difference"
11:11 AM on 10/25/2010
SS is broke--tens of trillions of unfunded liabilities, the world's biggest bankrupt--so take it as a question, not an answer! To keep it solvent, every three months raise the retirement age by one month until more is coming in than is going out; that'll take care of those already in, and will let those getting close move in at two thirds the present rate. Age 65 in the days of Prince Otto von Bismark differs demographically and health-wise from 65 here and now, so adjust to changing times. Once the system is solvent, index for employment and for life expectancy to keep it solvent during future downturns.

And haven't foreign countries, starting with Chile, privatized their SS systems with generally good results?

Another SS problem is that whites outlive blacks; is the system bigoted?
07:51 AM on 10/27/2010
No the system isn't bigoted. The black male does die before the others on average, but he draws more disability than the others. The black female outlives the white male and the white female outlives them all.

No, Chile didn't do well privatizing. There were some who retired without any money. They had to go back to set up a program with the government involved.

It is the higher earners that are living longer. The average worker is only living 2.5 years longer and the higher earner is living 6.5 years longer than they did when Social Security started benefits.

That is where the unfairness is. The higher earner should pay more in but draw less benefits.
03:53 PM on 10/24/2010
And so it continues... funny how these same asshats keep trying to tell us that they really do not want to privatize Social Security. Like Bush (who just recently stated that his biggest regret was not privatizing Social Security)
11:50 AM on 10/24/2010
you would prefer to hide your head in the sand and deny there is a problem.
07:53 AM on 10/27/2010
Who told you there is a problem? Did they have an R after their name? Or were they working for Peterson, like Walker? Or were they working for Wall Street and brokerages?

The only problem is how the government is going to pay back the fund they spent giving tax breaks to the rich.
08:20 AM on 10/28/2010
The social security accountants, who work for the U.S. Government, tell us the scale of the problem.

The Social Secuity fix-it book, for those who want to learn rather than shout.
http://crr­.bc.edu/sp­ecial_proj­ects/the_s­ocial_secu­rity_fix-i­t_book.htm­l
11:01 PM on 10/23/2010
Great idea. How will humans in the future ever look back and see us as a civilized society when when have so many public and private buildings that sit empty 70 to 90% of the time while millions of impoverished citizens are homeless, starving, and riddled by disease and malnutrition? We should require all future buildings to be built for dual use so we can feed and house those in need and out of work when they are not being used for their primary purpose. Too many churches, schools, and other government and private buildings sit empty and thus are monuments to our greed and lack of empathy. What a waste of our precious resources to build great structures that are used in such an inefficient manner. Remember when the Soviets had dual use commercial aircraft that could be converted quickly for war time use. We can do it.
07:10 PM on 10/23/2010
The Republicans haven't changed their agenda, but like all corporate exercises they have changed the terminology and rebranded it. It's the same people who when they couldn't get by with creationism rebranded it Intelligent Design. So generally the people who refuse to accept evolution are constantly proving it by evolving to survive. This November we have to drive the stake into the zombie! Get out and vote democratic!
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03:40 PM on 10/23/2010
Carolyn Maloney wants to nationalize the NYS 'BridgMarks law'. The real 'social security' for our children is for them to have both parents. Briget Marks knows alot of polititians but should have been criminalized for committing Parental Alienation on her own children. Maloney has lost alot of credibility in my eyes withe the 'Bridget Marks' law.
01:49 PM on 10/23/2010
“Here is a proposal that will save Social Security and the Federal government close to $50 billion per year. Most office space is very expensive yet white collar workers only use it 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. This amounts to only 30% efficiency which is completely unacceptable in today's economic and ecological environment. We can no longer afford to let all white-collar workers that still have jobs work banker's hours when we can work two shifts per day in government and private industry and cut our overhead costs in half. This simple paradigm shifts solves three problems: It jumpstarts economy and fights poverty, cuts pollution, reduces budget deficits. It is simple based on sound economic principles.
If this bold idea is pursued aggressively, it would prevent future oil spills and save jobs, the budget, the economy and the environment and cost nothing.
For links to Youtube and iReport videos go to

http://whi­tecollargr­eenspace.b­logspot.co­m/

I shared this plan with the Select Committee for Energy Independence and Global Warming and Secretary Chu's office at the Dept. of Energy. It is out of the box thinking that is based on proven principles, low cost, and with no negative environmental impact. Aggressively implementing it would be much less costly that another oil spill. This initiative is even more relevant since Bernanke stated that we must get the Federal deficit under control and Obama is ordering all dept's to cut budgets by 5%.â€
03:32 PM on 10/23/2010
Another approach is build combined office and residential buildings; 1 floor residential and 1 office. So the parking lots will get 24 hours use. Also nobody above or below you in the middle of the night.
11:03 PM on 10/23/2010
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Great idea. How will humans in the future ever look back and see us as a civilized society when when have so many public and private buildings that sit empty 70 to 90% of the time while millions of impoverished citizens are homeless, starving, and riddled by disease and malnutrition? We should require all future buildings to be built for dual use so we can feed and house those in need and out of work when they are not being used for their primary purpose. Too many churches, schools, and other government and private buildings sit empty and thus are monuments to our greed and lack of empathy. What a waste of our precious resources to build great structures that are used in such an inefficient manner. Remember when the Soviets had dual use commercial aircraft that could be converted quickly for war time use. We can do it!
09:30 AM on 10/29/2010
They had done that in my home town and in the surrounding areas years ago. There are apartments on most downtown businesses. Most are two storied. Now they are usually rented out.
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12:29 PM on 10/23/2010
Yup! Don't vote for this guy, if you want to preserve Social Security. Will the real Rand Paul please stand up:

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/07/rand-paul-in-the-90s-medicare-is-socialism-and-social-security-is-a-ponzi-scheme-video.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BCa8xw9yGY&feature=player_embedded
12:21 PM on 10/23/2010
This is Bush's greatest regret...that f*cktard sold off everything he could ...all gov. safety nets. Every arm of Gov. even most of the military. Those crazy old Republicans or teabaggers that stand behind these jerks are too dumb to figure it out. When they say "smaller Gov. is better" be afraid.When these lying weasels talk there should be subtitles to tell us what they really mean.
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01:01 PM on 10/24/2010
Republicans have never stood for "smaller gubmint". They stand for "crippled government". They want the treasury as large as possible because they shovel it to their cronies. What they don't like about government is oversight of their larcenies. Obama catches grief over wanting to extend unemployment but Bush and Co "LOST" $8 BILLION in "cash" on pallets in Iraq with no real repercussion.
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Inkosi
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10:40 AM on 10/25/2010
Oldngrump - Clap, Clap, Clap - I just favored you;
07:58 AM on 10/27/2010
Notice they think Medicare is in great shape and Social Security is in bad shape. They need to raise taxes to pay Social Security back. Medicare has became the feeding trough to enrich the rich in the medical field.
yougg
just a citizen
12:14 PM on 10/23/2010
Trust Wall Street with Social Security? Look at the mess that we are already dealing with with housing and forclosures. In theory privatization sounds logical. But here is the problem-some people are not good at handling money and there a quite a few people who don't make that much money. Social Security is a forced retirement saving program that is not a bad idea. Investing and being successful at it requires some knowledge. Not everybody is posssession of that knowledge. Maybe a person would engage in hiring somebody to do that investing. After seeing all of the Ponzi schemes of late would you really trust somebody? SS came into being in the 1930's and Medicare came in about 1965 or 1966. My grandparents were born in the late 1880's and were farmers all of their lives and never made that much money. In their later years SS and Medicare were all that they had to live on. EVERYBODY-including Congress, railworkers, and yes all of the uber rich need to contribute to SS. Congress should stop borrowing from the fund also. That would solve a lot of funding problems for SS.
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Inkosi
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10:58 AM on 10/25/2010
Yep! There are professionals who are not money savvy! Even the $$ savve mess up. It was very savvy people who invested with Madoff! They begged him to take thier money. When the ponzi scheme broke, the victims cried to be reimbursed because they had to sell their mansons, pawn their jewels. And there was a motion to do just that out our Tax money. How many retirement funds of ordinary people were bailed out???
This whole thing stinks to high heaven. France is rioting because the retirement age was raised to 62!
09:45 AM on 10/23/2010
Don't middleclass Reps understand what privatizing soc; security would do to them in their retirement?
As a senior citizen, these benefitss account for half of our income, along with withdrawals from our IRA.
Why would they vote against their own interests??
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Inkosi
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10:59 AM on 10/25/2010
Because they have drunk the repub kool aid! They believe the BS being put out.
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05:45 AM on 10/23/2010
Republicants only want to destroy the middle class while enriching their welfare paying corporate corrupt mafia chieftans who bankroll their re-election efforts. The GOP is the worse bunch of anti-American terrorists in domestic political history. They must be stopped or America , which was nearly destroyed by Bush and Cheney, will be totally destroyed and there will be no hope for anyone here except the useless rich bastards who rip off Americans and give the slime money to GOP terrorist henchmen to keep up the corruption.
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Inkosi
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11:02 AM on 10/25/2010
No, they don't want to destroy the middle class. They don't care if there is a middle class - we are not worth their time. They only want the money and if the middle class becomes a casualtiy - so be it. It is just Collateral damage!
We need to scream even louder than the nut jobs out there. Mobilize - talk to your neighbors, friends etc. I button hole people in the dog park.