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Rep. Carolyn Maloney

Rep. Carolyn Maloney

Posted April 28, 2009 | 10:16 AM (EST)

Still Not Equal


In the aftermath of the September 11th attacks on the World Trade Center, the daunting and complicated task of distributing victim compensation began to take shape. The compensation plan, as it was originally proposed, was based on outdated government formulas which assumed that women victims would have worked for less of their lives than their male counterparts. In effect, the proposed system of compensation was providing less for the families of women victims simply because they were the families of women victims.

It was a sobering reminder of how institutionalized gender discrimination can be. This isn't from a history book - it is not an example of how difficult it was for women of our grandmothers' generation. This is an example of how women as young as our daughters, in this decade, are still facing the same obstacles we vowed to eradicate. I am proud to have successfully fought for equal compensation after September 11th, but know that there are many battles yet to be won.

Today is Equal Pay Day; the day that symbolizes how far into the year that the average full-time working woman must work to earn as much as the average full-time working man earned the previous year. Women earn just 78 cents on the dollar as compared to their male counterparts. While we've made great progress in closing the gap between men's and women's wages since President Kennedy signed the Equal Pay Act in 1963, considerable work remains.

The federal government should be a model employer, but a GAO report released today, requested by myself and Senators Harkin and Kennedy, finds that an 11 cent on the dollar gender pay gap remains. 7 cents of that gap cannot be explained away by occupational and educational differences. In other words, it appears that even in the federal government, discrimination against women in the workforce persists.

Unfortunately, the findings in this report are not unexpected. Prejudices against working women take all shapes and forms. A GAO study I requested in 2003 confirmed that men with children earn about 2 percent more than men without children, while women with children earn about 2.5 percent less than women without children. So fathers enjoy a bonus, while mothers pay a penalty for their choices.

The impact of the wage gap is particularly painful in our current economic downturn as families struggle to make ends meet in the face of stagnant wages and job losses. Women make up more than 46 percent of the workforce and, as the number of working women continues to grow, so does the number of families reliant solely on the salaries of women. Since the recession began in December 2007, 3.7 million men have lost their jobs; creating even more families dependant on the smaller pay checks women earn.

The first bill President Obama signed into law was the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act. It was an important first step, signaling to women and their families that Congress and President Obama are committed to narrowing the gender pay gap. But additional work on multiple fronts is needed if we are ever to eliminate the gap.

First, we need stronger anti-discrimination legislation to close the loopholes in the Equal Pay Act. The Paycheck Fairness Act, of which I am a proud co-sponsor, passed the House earlier this session and awaits Senate action. It's crucial that we get this bill signed into law so that we can erase pay discrimination against women.

By recognizing the persistence of the problem and taking action, we have the opportunity to make next year's Equal Pay Day a celebration of progress.

 
 
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12:24 PM on 04/28/2009
I think it is obvious to any one with eyes that there certain entry-level positions are given almost exclusively to women and some almost exclusively to men, the higher paying ones going to men. And as RightWingMarine pointed out: Why would companies hire men when they could hire women for less? In this economy, the unemployment rate for young men is much higher than that for young women. Need more proof? Inequality doesn't always benefit the boys.
02:06 PM on 04/28/2009
Sooo....what exactly are we saying here? Because girls want jobs boys don't get them? It's the girls fault?

If gender inequality "doesn't always benefit the boys" are you saying it benefits the girls? The pink ghetto is better than no ghetto?
11:45 AM on 04/28/2009
Here is something that REALLY pisses me off! While the innocent civilian deaths on 9/11 were indeed tragic, the idea of compensation over and above what the family of a dead service member would get is an absolute OBSCENITY!! You demand equal compensation? Then lower civilian payouts or RAISE military to their level.
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01:19 PM on 04/28/2009
No, The idea of compensation at all was wrong.

In normal circumstances one is expect to make plans to provide for their family if they die suddenly - by whatever means.

It was wrong for the government to decide to pay families just because they were in the Trade Center or on one of the planes. By that logic we should pay the families of folks who died in Katrina.

9/11 produced the biggest knee-jerk in history.
06:11 PM on 04/28/2009
You're absolutely right. There never should have been pay-outs to the civilian families. But I still think that the compensation to service families should be MUCH higher.
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11:35 AM on 04/28/2009
a lot of comments on here critical of me when Rep Maloney didn't cite the report she referrenced. Why take someone's word on an issue or make assumptions about control for variables that the study probably did when the actual report could be provided?

Still no one has answered the question: with all things being equal, if a woman can be hired to do the same work as a man but for less money why would anyone hire men?
02:34 PM on 04/28/2009
By the same token, with all things being equal, if an "illegal" can be hired to do the same work as a "legal" but for less money, why would anyone hire a "legal"?

The point being that as long as there's more people desiring work than there is jobs, the owners and managers have the advantage, because there's always someone willing to do the job for less. That's why it doesn't pay to rail against such things as afformative action, rather than paying attention to the real issue, which is, are workers being treated justly by the owners of the means of production?

We (workers) are all in the same boat, and are being played against each other. We won't win unless and until we truly unite. . . solidarity is key.
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03:34 PM on 04/28/2009
While there will always be someone willing to do the work for less they are usually not equal. While some will be it is difficult to differentiate the equally qualified from not quite which is why employers depend on quantitative measures such as having a degree, years of experience... Personally I believe it is reprehensible to give preference based on gender or ethnicity. If workers are being treated unfairly why do they work there? No town in the country has only one employer.
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11:04 AM on 04/28/2009
Yet another simplistic answer from a neo-con..."I can't google the report, so therefore, it doesn't exist"
FYI, a study conducted by the American College of Physicians, confirm female internists make less than male internists. We are more likely to be employed by a large group and less likely to work long hours. The pay gap persists despite equal education
11:41 AM on 04/28/2009
Which, once again, doesn't answer his question!
10:51 AM on 04/28/2009
Most of the studies showing the gender discrepancy in pay do claim to adjust for seniority, RightWingMarine. What the studies try very hard to do is isolate the one variable of gender, from all the others, including seniority, qualifications, even experience. They all show rather startling discrepancies. Just recently, a poll showed that the average salary for women with a bachelor's degree was in the low 40K's, while that of men with a bachelor's was in the low 70K's. Of course, there are ways to interpret that---perhaps more men go into higher paying fields like engineering, while more women go into education. However, studies also show a significant gender-related pay discrepancy within fields!

As a rather accomplished woman, I can tell you that gender discrimination is real, I have experienced it, and it's rampant and pervasive in the workplace. It's often blatant or barely concealed, and an astonishing amount of the time, those practicing it are completely unaware that's what they are doing, and/or that it's wrong.

If you don't believe me, just do the Tootsie thing and find out for yourself.

Then, unless you're a very unusual-looking man, you'll also probably find out how differently attractive women are treated than the less attractive ones!
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11:04 AM on 04/28/2009
Thanks for an articulate and polite expression of what I wanted to say myself. RightWingMarine's argument is soooo 70's. The only way conservatives can make a case for their stingy worldview is to begin by denying reality. There have been so many studies by this time, that do control for all those other factors, that it should not even be necessary to cite one, the fact has been established.
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10:50 AM on 04/28/2009
And we wonder why women represent the biggest percentage of start up businesses.

We have a President who was raised by a single mother, and whose wife was the majority earner for years, something tells me the speed of change just accelerated.
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10:15 AM on 04/28/2009
if a business could hire women to do the same work as men but for less money why would they ever hire men?

Our esteemed representative laments that men with children earn more than men without while women with children earn less than women without. A nameless GAO study is referrenced so we can't look up the report ourselves but I speculate that men with children earn more because older men have more children than younger men and older men typically have been employed longer than younger men. Older women generally have more children than younger women as well but unlike men when a child is born the woman must take time off work for the delivery. Women that have no children do not have to take this time off.
This is not a new arguement but since Rep Maloney neglected to address this and pro-actively refute it leads me to believe that this explanation stands a good chance of being the explanation for the discrepency and that Rep Maloney is simply playing to emotions.
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10:43 AM on 04/28/2009
These studies control for things like age, education, and how much time one has been in the workforce.
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09:37 PM on 04/28/2009
"These studies control for things like age, education, and how much time one has been in the workforce."

The studies that do exactly that show women making within 2% of men. This old "76 cents on the dollar" chestnut is arrived at by ignoring precisely those factors in favor of an hour to hour comparison only.
11:05 AM on 04/28/2009
Oh, and to answer your question---"If a business could hire women to do the same work as men but for less money why would they ever hire men?" Well, that's exactly what has happened in every line of work which was once performed solely by men, but now is dominated by women.

Until the last 150 years or so ago, most school teachers were male, and not only was the pay was more substantial than it is today, but the profession held in high regard. Women now dominate teaching and we know the rest of the story. Same with the secretarial profession, and with retail clerking jobs.

Now, over half the students in American medical schools are women. I'll give you one guess as to what will happen to doctors' pay within the next few years---not that health care costs don't need to be slashed and that many doctors are overpaid---but I guarantee you, when slashing time finally comes, it will fall disproportionately on the backs of women doctors.