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Ohio Voters Call for Big Ideas


We all knew Ohio was going to matter in the 2008 presidential election. We just didn't know it would be this soon.

As the candidates and their surrogates scurried from the Mahoning Valley to the Miami Valley, we heard the echoes of 2006.

Here's what we--as participants and observers--learned then.

In 2006, Ohio voters resoundingly shouted "stop" to a government which they believe betrayed them. Voters said "no" to pharmaceutical firms writing Medicare law, the insurance industry drafting health care legislation, oil companies dictating energy policy. No more job killing trade agreements. No more special tax privileges for hedge fund managers. No more privatizing government services to line the pockets of campaign contributors.

Now in 2008, voters are asking for something more.

During my first 13 months in the US Senate, I convened more than 85 roundtables, open discussions with community leaders and activists, to learn how we all could work together. Their local problems are more often than not our national problems. Plant shutdowns sending jobs overseas. High energy prices afflicting businesses, homeowners, and renters. Woefully underfunded water and sewer and highway needs.

Voters are looking for big ideas much more than the typically cautious, incremental change at the margins that is usually offered up at campaign time.

Ohioans sense a structural shakiness to our economy. A shrinking, anxious, middle class. Frustrated Ohioans working harder for less money. The loss of hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs with an out-of-control trade deficit. A three billion dollar-a-week war with no end in sight. And, exploding budget deficits infecting the next generation.

As Ohioans have told me, we need to increase buying power among the two-thirds of the American people who have, in too many cases, maxed out their credit cards and borrowed all that they could. Families who, former Labor Secretary Robert Reich points out, have two wage earners and work longer hours than almost anyone else in the world.

More than anything, Ohio voters want to hear big ideas. Perhaps a Manhattan project for infrastructure and alternative energy. Maybe a Marshall Plan that would build our manufacturing base and create good paying jobs. Or a tax and trade policy which rewards corporations that play by the rules and are loyal to our communities and our nation.

The candidate with big ideas will likely win on November 4th. More importantly, come January 2009, the new president will have a blue print for how to repair a fundamentally crippled economy.

-- U.S. Senator Sherrod Brown (OH)

 
 
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KaAp
09:49 AM on 03/06/2008
From what I have seen from Ohio which is not much admittedly ... it is not a state I would want to live in. After listening to voters in Ohio and the level of ignorance which seemed to abound on the part of the voters there it was frightening ... I did not see an informed discussion rather I saw a discussion based on lies and hyperbole. I did not see people questioning the infrastructure and the system which brought about the economic collapse that transpired rather I saw a lot of "I had and now I want ..."
I did not see much in the way of responsibility but I did see people who easily assuaged blame at everything but themselves ... I did not see a critical understanding of the issues or the candidates positions just appeals to the lowest common denominator ... If Ohioans want big ideas there is one critical question that is not being raised ... ideas like opinions are easy ... how ideas will or can be implemented cannot be based on promises or promises of solutions ... there seems to be a lack of agency and sadly that lack of agency and responsibility brought about the election victory for someone who obfuscated her duplicity in bringing about the problems Ohio currently has
12:49 PM on 03/06/2008
I believe that you haven't seen much of Ohio. I'd guess from your comments that you watched the 60 Minues interview with the guy who wasn't sure if Sen. Obama was a Muslim and you are now basing your assumptions on the state by that lone observation. Look to the presidential candidate from Ohio and you will see the opposite, an intelligent well-informed liberal. Smug bias and assumptions are often annoying and sometimes dangerous. Please research prior to commenting.
02:06 PM on 03/06/2008
I was born in Ohio and I agree with KaAp's statement above. There are many good people in Ohio. But there is also an element that is deeply bigoted and ignorant. The Clintons know that and manipulated those poor dumb Buckeyes all the way to the ballot box. Once again the poor, the uneducated, union workers, etc. voted against their own interests. They supported the multi-millionaire Clintons whose populist rhetoric was all they will receive in return for their efforts. Once the Clintons left the state with their prize in hand they immediately forgot about those poor dumb Buckeyes who voted for them.
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TRex86
Enjoying life in West Ohio
09:34 AM on 03/06/2008
Ohio is a mirror of America's tortured soul. Read between the lines. I think Sen. Brown is making an oblique endorsement of Obama, to whom one can attribute the capacity for "big ideas." He may in fact be exhorting him to stay on the moral high ground. Hillary rolled around in the mud to get her win. Big deal. She can't out-slime the Republicans, and she remains the one candidate with stratospheric unpopularity among a large percent of the populace. Hence, the Limbaugh endorsement. She will mobilize a lot of disinterested Republican/independent voters to show up and vote against her.
The case against four more years of Republican rule is overwhelming, but can she articulate it and go beyond her repertoire of wonky "solutions." In the general election how will she clearly separate herself from Bomb-Bomb McCain? Her dismal voting record? How will she inspire young swing voters? NAFTA? How will she make amends with black voters? Arrogance and sarcasm? In the demographics of the Ohio vote Obama won the urban centers. (Educated and African-American). She won everything else (Rust Belt, rural, working class). The delegate margin was only nine so it's a pretty even split.
Depending who gets nominated the question is whether Obama can retain her supporters or she can retain his. If she stays negative the answer is obvious. President McCain. A lot of young voters are not interested in business as usual. Moreover, although Ohio is an economy-driven swing state racism and xenophobia among working class Democrats is the wild card. Can sufficient voters swallow their prejudices and vote their wallets? Maybe.
Outside of the Deep South Ohio best represents the profound contradictions of American Society, the strange amnesia that has permitted voters to act against their own interests. Thus, Obama is the best candidate as he has attempted to elevate the rhetoric and move away from the politics of division and destruction. He speaks for our better angels.
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Democrab
Pretty far so good
09:22 AM on 03/06/2008
Seems to me that this country was doing just fine until Bush came along.

I would remind people of the Greenspan interview.

He really gave a great deal of credit to Bill Clinton for his economic leadership and genius.

And whether you want to admit it or not, the Clintons are a team.

I'd prefer his voice in the president's ear to Cindy's or Michelle's.
10:15 AM on 03/06/2008
Democrab, you really need to do more homework on the past Clinton era. I think you missed the Greenpsan 60 minutes interview w/ Leslie Stahl when he answered her question about Clinton with a smile on his face stating, "he was a good republican". Clinton fell into a gold mine economy, as we were at the peak of the internet boom and Greenspan, Clinton and Rubin worked in favor of tax cuts for the rich and deregulating the financial industry that ultimately brought America the economy we have today.

I am not saying he was a bad President, because he was surely better than what we have had over the past seven years. However, I am saying that you are deluding yourself if you think he is going to improve the economy. He implemented NAFTA and is committed to the Corporations that he helped deregulate to increase their profit. It is hard to implement regulation and policies on the corporate elite, in order to help a majority of American people, when you were the one who gave them the enormous profits in the first place.
10:49 AM on 03/06/2008
How true. I could not beleve Clinton gave so much power to corporations.
On another note: OHIO and Texas really screwed up the Democratic path to the White House. Hillary is more of the same old same old. Do we really want -- Bush, Clinton, Clinton, Bush, Bush, Clinton -- monarchy. Maybe Obama can't change a lot but at least he will try. With Clinton it will be business as usual and that isn't working real well.
08:55 AM on 03/06/2008
If Ohio voter want "big ideas", why did the majority vote for the status quo (Clinton)? Hillary's husband ushered in "big idea" policies (NAFTA, bank deregulation, etc.) that have been devastating for Ohio ... and Hillary promises more of the same - plus an even more war hawk foreign policy.

Hillary is right, "talk is cheap", so voters should carefully examine her policies (and her husband's), which are much more in line with GW Bush and the republican agenda than anything that even attempts to throw a few scraps to the poor, middle and working class.
08:33 AM on 03/06/2008
Senator Brown, as always, thanks for your post!
07:40 AM on 03/06/2008
Yes, people want to see major changes in our country. They want a leadership that is more concerned with their incomes, health and security and less with fighting foolish wars in Iraq. We need a rejection of the neocon policies of the last 38 years that has destroyed the quality of life of the working 95% of America rather than the richest 5%. We need changes we haven't see since the mid-1960's to the mid-1970's when we ended legal segeration with civil rights laws, protected the health of our seniors with Medicare, started to deal with our enviroment, made sure government regulated businesses and so on. People are ready and will accept changes in their lives, pay higher taxes if they see a defenite benefit now with an end of the war on them.
03:05 AM on 03/06/2008
The sad fact is Members in both partys, are bought and owned by Corporate America.

Representatives Dennis Kucunich, Ron Paul, and Ralph Nader are not bought and owned by Corporate America, Its why the Democrats and Republicans do not like these upstanding law abiding men, who believe in and stand to Protect , Defend , Preserve the United States Constitution.

The fact is the people running for the office of the president , are in fact lying about change! when members of Congress are owned by Corporate America, they stop working on behalf of the Citizens of the United States, thats been seen and has been in play for a long time now.

The Republicans in the Congress have been against the Constitution, they have obstructed Investigations into all the Illegal activities of the Administration, they have torn down the rule of law governing all so-called men, and the list is vast.

The Democrats in the Congress again go against the Constitution, They in turn have not, Protected , Defended , nor Preserved, the Constitution based upon the "Oath they all took. They have as well became a part of the problem and not the solution in cleaning up the vast Corruption in the Congress.

The Corruption will continue and it is " We The People who keep getting the short end of the "Stick. We the people deserve the kind of Government that we elect.

Corporate owned Media is the other Corrupt side of the coin, The media today should be broken up due to its corrupt nature, its a " Right Wing structure laying, Lies, Misinformation, and covering up for this corrupt administration. It is the Propaganda Machine for the Republican party, which is very obvious in the daily cycle of garbage that they report on.
11:31 PM on 03/05/2008
How's this for a Big Ohio Idea: halt the Bush/ McCain war in Iraq and re-deploy our troops now.
The Iraq war has cost our nation 4000 troops KIA, 25,000 wounded and $2 Trillion (with a "T") dollars of our national treasure.
Ohio's "share" of that $2 trillion would be about $100 Billion. Had we invested our $100 billion in Ohio's factories, infrastructure, schools and people... here's where we could be right now:
Dozens of newly- tooled factories building state-of- the- art wind turbines, solar arrays, and electric vehicles with tens of thousands of new skilled manufacturing jobs... high speed rail linkages between Ohio's major cities along with commuter light rail... at least one new school in each of Ohio's 450 school districts... health care coverage for all Ohioans.
But instead... a mindless war, costing us a $ billion dollars a day, with no end in sight.
Yes Senator Brown, it seems that all of our Big Dreams-- in Ohio and elsewhere-- must remain on hold until we elect a President (and more Senators like yourself) who have the political courage to say "No!" to the fear mongers and stop this miserable war.
12:37 AM on 03/06/2008
....but also the PEOPLE of the U.S. must be willing to alter their "lifestyles" such that its econ. is less subject to the draining effects of rising energy costs: The price of imported petroleum is the GREATEST single external purchase. Likely, this will req. two GENERATIONS to reconfigure U.S. cities and houses such that their energy req. are LOWERED.

Further, U.S. citizens must be willing to forego the notion of DOMINANCE, esp. dominion enforced by egregious, military expenditures. Many former members of the army, air force, navy, Marines, etc. are still of a mind that considers military intervention as a first recourse.
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Logician Atheist Lefty
08:59 PM on 03/05/2008
Wow, it must be really hard to be elected as a representative from Ohio! All that talk of 'big ideas' ! Indoor bathrooms for all! You don't even have to use any .25 words, you can keep your vocabulary to the .10 words. The word arrogance has never been used to describe your demeanor has it?
This is exactly what all of us have been talking about. Politicians whose fluff says volumes about their agendas. Your state has been just identified as just as backward as Alabama in 1956 and you write a blog about how Ohioans want 'big ideas'? Nice spin move slick! The bigger question at this point is "Do you HONESTLY believe what you just wrote?". And if you do, you are about as in touch with reality as George Bush!
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09:11 PM on 03/05/2008
Wow. It must be really hard for you to write such a nasty post as an anonymous smarty pants on the internet! Give the snark a rest Einstein before you make yourself look like a fool. Sherrod Brown has written a book on trade and how it affects the economy, workers rights, job creation etc, it has been his cause celebre for his entire career. Before you accuse him of arrogance and fluff why don't you exercise your mind and read it:

http://www.powells.com/biblio/61-1565849280-0

Maybe you should ask the rest of the representatives in the House why they don't want to work to move forward these Big Ideas you, all of us and Sherrod Brown have been talking about for all this time instead of beat up on one of the few members of Congress that agrees with you.
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Logician Atheist Lefty
12:14 AM on 03/06/2008
You need to read about a process called cloture. This is why nothing has been done in the senate. Unless you can get 60 votes, nothing gets out of committee. Evidently you haven't been reading the exit polls from Ohio either, you know, the ones that say that for 80% of Ohioans, race matters and they voted their racism with Hillary. Either you are a racist or are uninformed. And in case you are now wondering, I'm lily white. But I abhor ignorance. The kind of ignorance that lets racism still live and breathe in this country.

And are you anonymous as well? Or should your nom-de-plume be one I recognize? Perhaps this is a piece of information which I am lacking. Margaret Thatcher in disguise?
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RogerHWerner
12:21 AM on 03/06/2008
You took the wind out of my sail! What a great retort to a nasty post and one that is tiresome in its refusal to accept what this country can do when it makes up its mind to do it. The problem is that people--presumably this numb nuts is a conservative--have for years listened to the horseshit usually spouted by Republicans that government can't afford healthcare, to upgrade infrastructure, to promote the development of alternative energy; the government can't do this or that because it doesn't have the money. Consequently, we must rely on the private sector for our salvation. Frankly, I'm sick to death of such talk and even sicker of hearing about the glories of privatization. I've been waiting for the privatization miracle since 1980 and what I've seen is hardly anything I'd call a miracle. Our government has the wherewithal to borrow $3 billion dollars to waste on a counterproductive war in Iraq but we can't afford universal healthcare? We can't afford to buy the proper equipment to secure our borders, airports, and ports? We can rebuild our infrastructure because we don't have the money? Like Hell we can't. If this country and its voters extracted their collective heads from our collective hindquarters, we'd find that we can afford a great deal more than our so called leaders have lead us to believe. The only problem is that when the government decides to spend money on projects that directly benefit citizens, the corporate pimps who own government aren't going to like it very much since new spending priorities won't involve $40 billion contracts for a new USAF tanker jet (money the Pentagon intends to give to a French firm by the way). Sherrod-Brown is absolutely correct: We need to establish priorities that benefit Americans directly: This is an idea whose time has come and I'm guessing Ohioans aren't the only people who feel this way. Anyway who cares to call this protectionism may feel free to do so. I prefer to think of it as taking care of our own people before we enrich the elite of nations that have no real interests in our culture or society. In my opinion, the whole notion of free markets was bankrupt the day Milton Friedman began to push it more than 40 years ago.
08:57 PM on 03/05/2008
Ohions gave us Bush and now they are trying to give us Clinton. The people there are "hopeless." They do NOT represent the rest of America. They are much too timid and conservative. WE need to put more efforts into other states if we want change. Ohio does not deserve the attention. Sorry Mr. Brown.
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RogerHWerner
12:22 AM on 03/06/2008
I suggest you read up on your recent election history. Ohio did not give us Bush. The 2004 election in Ohio was as rigged as the 2000 Florida election. I won't bother to discuss the facts of this situation but I suggest you take the time to educate yourself.
08:40 PM on 03/05/2008
I lived in Ohio in the 80's and I could see the future then. There are too many people that are tied to rust belt thinking, holding on to old prejudices and insecurities. They wouldn't know a big idea because negative campaigning always gets them to follow the bouncing ball away from what is in their best interest. They fall for it every time.
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09:27 PM on 03/05/2008
Not all of Ohio is like what you saw in the 80's and you ignore the fact that Sherrod Brown, a progressive populist beat a multi-term popular Republican in 2006. You ignore the fact we elected a Democratic Governor, Secretary of State, State Treasure and State Attorney General. All very progressive Dems. Ohio is turning around.

Hillary only won by 10 points here and she had been campaigning in Ohio a lot longer than Obama. A major ice storm hit the state about 4pm on election day and continued through the night. Trees were down, power lines were down all over the place. The bus lines were delayed at least an hour and many were cancelled. When I left work at 5pm my car was encased in ice, it took me a half hour to chip my car door open and scrape the ice off my windows then it took me an hour to drive 4 miles home. I sincerely believe that the vote would have been a hell of a lot closer if we hadn't had biblically crappy weather during the prime voting time of the day.
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Logician Atheist Lefty
12:22 AM on 03/06/2008
Ignore the speculation in the other post as far as the racism comment. Sorry, but I am so angry about people who let fear and other non-rational arguments control them that I let it come out at times. You would think after 2 elections where people voted for who they would rather have a beer with instead of someone who might actually have the intelligence and foresight to lead this country where we need to go that the people would actually remember their vote from 4 years ago - or eight - but they don't. AAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
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RogerHWerner
12:32 AM on 03/06/2008
Good comment. I happen to know a few Ohioans and the last thing I'd say about them is that they are guilty of rust belt thinking. I have no idea where Sandiaview isf from (perhaps New Mexico since that is where Sandia is located), but few states have been devastate by the notion of globalization like the states of the midwest including Ohio. My guess is that Sandiaview has been insulated from the globalization economic effects.

In 2006, Ohio cleaned house politically and if these voters are looking for big ideas they know damn well they aren't going to get them from conservative politicians. That Ohioans gave Clinton a victory means very little. The delegate count is what matters and Clinton gained very little in that regard. Whatever...I'm not convinced Obama would give us any bigger ideas than Clinton; perhaps he would but that remains to be seen. What I'd find interesting is a comparison between total number of voters who voted Democrat vs Republican in Ohio and I'd like to see the percentage of those voters who are newly registered. My guess is we'd see a continuation of the national trend towards greatly increased numbers of Democratic voters.
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usedtoberepug
08:28 PM on 03/05/2008
Yep Ohio has some bad points but we also have two members of Congress Senator Brown and Representative Kucinich respectively that will not accept government health care till the rest of the population also has health care.

I am very proud of my congressmen !
07:54 PM on 03/05/2008
yeah, geez.... thanks a bunch Ohio, two terms of Bush and now a protracted pointless battle allowing HRC to stick around and tear down the eventual nominee Mr. O.... potentially making way for president McCain... Good Job and good luck with all those new programs you surely won't be getting!!!! On the bright side there will be jobs for your impoverished young men and women under president McCain, too bad that they will all be in IRAQ.
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Canukistani
07:50 PM on 03/05/2008
"Voters are looking for big ideas much more than the typically cautious, incremental change at the margins that is usually offered up at campaign time."

In view of the result in Ohio last night, this is utter nonsense. Most voters seem to be impressed by scare tactics and dubious rumors and are unwilling to do anything that might require any courage. They want the safe and the tried and true and the predictable. That's why the experience thing works. That's why the 3 AM phone thing works You don't get much change from someone who's been in the system for 3 or 4 decades, at least not on this side of the looking glass.
07:06 PM on 03/05/2008
Ohioans aren't the only people in this economy. Nice, when, because of how elections play out, one particular state gets to play Camille, while the others are supposed to . . what? Suck it up?

Ohio is one, ONLY one, state in a country that has realt needs that stretch beyond the borders of it's sovereignty, and, evidently, the minds of its voters.