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ALEC Tries Humor as Defense

Posted: 04/16/2012 5:46 pm

Did you know that some of the biggest, baddest names in American business have funnybones?

Walmart, ExxonMobil, Pfizer, even the Koch brothers -- plus hundreds of others, actually -- are cut-ups. Who'd have guessed?

But it's true. Last week, as tens thousands of Americans voiced our collective outrage at the work of the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), a lobbying front underwritten by these and other major companies, they delivered a side-splitting response.

"This is an attempt to silence our organization... This is an all-out intimidation campaign," groused Ron Scheberle, ALEC's executive director. "America needs organizations like ALEC to foster the discussion and debate of policy differences in an open, transparent way and not fall back on bullying, intimidation and threats."

Scheberle's comment was written, so I can't tell if he was grinning when he uncorked it. But the notion that people like me, who've been publicly taking on ALEC and its political/policy agenda, are somehow intimidating, is a laugher. And the suggestion that ALEC fosters open, transparent debate is absolutely hilarious.

Think of it. We're just a bunch of everyday folks -- working moms and dads, students, retirees, small business owners, a cross-section of Americans -- who object to the way that multi-billion dollar companies, through ALEC, have been pushing laws that encourage vigilante justice, threaten to block millions of people from voting, attack our public schools and deny climate change. And somehow, because we dare to speak up and challenge these behemoths, we've become fearsome intimidators?

C'mon man! Nobody's trying to silence ALEC. Silence and secrecy are ALEC's biggest weapons. At Common Cause, where I work, we're trying to amplify -- not suppress -- ALEC's voice. That's what they don't like.

For years, ALEC's corporate members have quietly poured money into the campaign funds of thousands of our elected representatives, entertained and lobbied them at resort hotels far from the eyes and ears of the public and press, and used them to advance ALEC's "model" legislation. It worked because nobody knew about it.

Well, now folks are learning. Because Common Cause and other groups have picked up a megaphone and spread ALEC's message and tactics, companies are re-thinking their involvement with ALEC.

And some of them -- smart, responsible companies like Coca-Cola, McDonald's, Wendy's, Kraft Foods and Intuit, are getting out.

That's not bullying. It's democracy.

 

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Did you know that some of the biggest, baddest names in American business have funnybones? Walmart, ExxonMobil, Pfizer, even the Koch brothers -- plus hundreds of others, actually -- are cut-ups. Who...
Did you know that some of the biggest, baddest names in American business have funnybones? Walmart, ExxonMobil, Pfizer, even the Koch brothers -- plus hundreds of others, actually -- are cut-ups. Who...
 
 
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stettin
lux et veritas
07:04 PM on 04/17/2012
the exposufe of ALEC to the American public is probably the greatest gift to democracy in our
country. its methods and purposes are anti-democratic in almost every action it takes,
particularly in ghost-writing the legislative measures making the round of various states to
restrict the rights of women, the rights of unions, the right of every citizen to vote and in
general insuring that all state laws allow them the greatest opportunities to operate without
restraint or supervisionl
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mrpotatohead
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01:33 PM on 04/17/2012
I'm troubled by the last statement in this article. It is not democracy, it's economics and consumer pressure. That is not the same thing as democracy.

Americans need to be able to separate their role as consumer with their role as citizen. That's why ALEC has been able to write legislation in the first place - something it has no business doing in a democracy.

The last line suggests that democracy and consumerism are interchangeable. They are not - even when the good guys get a win.

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04:59 PM on 04/17/2012
Your point is thoughtful but I think these companies are long past the point where they're already playing very influential roles in our democracy. Through ALEC, they were part of an effort to subvert democracy. Thus, I think it's still democratic participation for people to turn back around and say, "no, you shouldn't be part of ALEC" and use the economic implications of consumer advocacy as the bargaining chip.

Perhaps Americans do need to "be able to separate their role as consumer with their role as citizen," but first I think corporations need to admit they aren't people, and the personal privileges they are granted (without the liability or accountability of a person, mind you) need to be rescinded. This seems like legitimate progress in making room for the distinction you are stressing as important.
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Helloise
Healthy skeptic admires reason, trusts intuition
12:03 PM on 04/17/2012
"Open and transparent", good, let me know when the next meeting takes place so I can attend, that is after I've read the corporate/lobbying legislation beforehand in the newspaper to be an informed participant. LOL. And, btw, while I admit I know a few conservatives with a sense of humor, which makes them bearable, en masse they are about as amusing as a session in the airport waiting for a delayed flight. If you really want to win over a comedy audience, you might want to skip hypocrisy and self righteous fury as an opening gambit.
11:51 AM on 04/17/2012
A perfect analogy would be allowing the fox to oversee the laws governing the running of the hen house; allowing the fox to come and go as he pleases.

ALEC has made the state governments; governments of the corporation, by the corporation, and for the corporation.
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mrpotatohead
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01:35 PM on 04/17/2012
This is the most critical point of all. Those who believe in government by the people need to grasp this.
11:04 AM on 04/17/2012
If you turn over a rock and find a snake hiding under it, It will strike out at you before it slithers away looking for another hiding spot. They will be back, possibly under a different name.
10:39 AM on 04/17/2012
Don't forget to mention that Time Warner (co-owners of this site) belong to ALEC...
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Helloise
Healthy skeptic admires reason, trusts intuition
11:53 AM on 04/17/2012
Hmmm ... I happen to know a few high level folks there and I think it's time for an e mail campaign.
09:56 AM on 04/17/2012
Think of it. We're just a bunch of everyday folks -- working moms and dads, students, retirees, small business owners, a cross-section of Americans -- who object to the way that multi-billion dollar companies, through ALEC, have been pushing laws that encourage vigilante justice, threaten to block millions of people from voting, attack our public schools and deny climate change.

You had me on this article until you started spouting out the talking points of the liberal left. If you would have pointed out how corporations use their lobbying might to enact free trade agreements that damage our economy or deregulate necessary guards against unethical and criminal behavior then I would agree with you. However, all you have done is talk about a liberal social agenda that most Americans will probably disagree with. Corporations do not care about gun rights, illegal immigration, school vouchers or climate change. They care about money alone and anything else is just a ploy to get people to look the other way while they sell out their future.
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DocJoseph
A bleeding heart will heal; a cold heart will not
10:11 AM on 04/17/2012
You would think that corporations only think about money, but you'd be wrong. They want the right to pollute without paying for it, the right to not pay taxes for schools, and their CEOs and boards are Republicans - who own guns and are lifetime members of the NRA.
11:07 AM on 04/17/2012
"Pollute without paying for it"....."Not pay taxes for schools"....but you say they do not only think about money. Partisan B.S. on the rest of your comment because just as many CEO's & Board Members are democrat as republican. Do you think Obama gets Wall Street money from republican bankers? There are just as many democrat bankers to give him what he needs. As I said, corporations and both political parties just want you to look the other way while they sell out your future.
12:09 PM on 04/17/2012
Actually, the NRA and gun manufactures had a big hand in the "Stand your ground" legislation that has been sweeping the states across the nation. Gun sales is is money to these companies. The agenda has been to privitize government services (education, jails, water, sewage, parking, roads, ...) so that the corporations can profit from the public taxes. Then they will have a monopoly and can raise prices while they run the infrastructure into the ground with no maintenance. Looking for a tax payer bailout once things are ready to fall apart.
http://www.alternet.org/economy/153093/privatization_nightmare%3A_5_public_services_that_should_never_be_handed_over_to_greedy_corporations/
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DocJoseph
A bleeding heart will heal; a cold heart will not
09:44 AM on 04/17/2012
Finding out about ALEC (which was hard because they have been so secretive) was like uncovering the strings that tie together a mystery. I wondered how legislation spread across the US like fire (an appropriate metaphor considering the type of legislation has been destroying Democracy).

Now I know, sort of: Shadowy organization with shadowy members (I still don't know exactly who has been hand carrying the bills or who runs the organization).

This isn't Democracy. It's - what? - a Corporatocracy? Oligarchy? Plutocracy?

It's like finding out your parents aren't your parents, but rather Russian spies that kidnapped you at birth. I wondered why they didn't seem to care about me.
09:25 AM on 04/17/2012
Evil prefers darkness.
Keep shining the light.
Wib
Liberal former Marine who loves fly fishing and is
08:58 AM on 04/17/2012
Thanks for getting the word out on ALEC. Anyone who has been paying attention to legislation passing in various states, in recent years especially, has been struck by the seeming sameness of a lot of proposals that really have little to do with solving problems in the states, often actually exacerbating the problems in education, health care and other programs designed to help ordinary citizens. Keep it coming and please let us know the names and affiliations of the politicians being wined, dined and otherwise bribed by ALEC. Once again, the moneyed interests have given us reasons to get money out of politics, especially their money. By the way, he wasn't being humorous. People such as Scheberle and the people he represents have no sense of humor, only huge egos that say they are the only people that should be acknowledged as having anything to say about anything whatsoever.
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stettin
lux et veritas
07:34 PM on 04/17/2012
to learn more about the organization and purposes of ALEC, simply Google "ALEC"
plenty there and it's eye-opening and scary to a simple citizen without millions of $.
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MarcDel
thank G they'll blame you for everything
08:46 AM on 04/17/2012
And the GOP accuses the administration of being socialistic. This partnership is as fascist as any in history. Government and corporations ruling. Corporations who constantly talk about the free market while lobbying government for advantages. That's fascism plain and simple
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den1953
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08:37 AM on 04/17/2012
Writing bills word for word produced by the Republican Party in Washington for the Corporations is not a laughing matter especially for those Americans that elect those law makers to be working for them, this is the largest scam on the American electorate in years possibly the history of our nation. If only the framers were alive today to watch how far Corporate America has stripped the peoples rites from them and is ending Democracy as we know it!
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Mikeygr
10:21 AM on 04/17/2012
And all in the name of greed.....
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cfisher000
08:31 AM on 04/17/2012
Question to all, who would you rather have in control of society: Wal-Mart or the current crop of politicians?

Wal-Mart - who gives us endless goods at cheap prices, employs millions in useful jobs, and is on the leading end of innovation.

Politicians - who are corrupt beyond measure, getting into endless wars, increasing control in fascist ways such as controlling hot water temperatures, and creating poverty.
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CK Page
There is no native criminal class except Congress.
09:54 AM on 04/17/2012
Yeah, I suppose Wal-Mart is a good choice, considering almost everything they sell came from China! They don't buy American goods to resell to us. They buy from China and the Philippines, South Korea, and Thailand.

Why are their goods cheap? Because they are produced by U.S. Companies in the Far East!

No, I don't want the current crop of Republicans in the House. They are so corrupt they don't even know how to fix the cookie-cutter laws they get from ALEC. If they were real legislators they would take a model and create their own. But they can't even do that. They are incompetent.
VOTE DEMOCRATIC 2012
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cfisher000
08:42 AM on 04/18/2012
Econ 101: a country can only import as much as it exports.
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dreux62
The GOP - Now 100% Fact Free!
09:55 AM on 04/17/2012
First, what innovations is Wal-Mart on the leading edge of? I haven't ever heard that they create new technologies or products. Second, given their record of employee abuses and the way that they drive local mom & pop businesses out of every market they enter answers your question for me. I would rather have corrupt incompetent politicians than a corporation run by Wal-Mart. The problem is that right now Wal-Mart and its allies are the ones running the politicians.
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cfisher000
08:33 AM on 04/18/2012
Ever hear of Supply Chain Management? Wal-Mart has several patents on their innovative Supply Chain processes which include RFI chips and innovative storage techniques. Read the book “The Wal-Mart Effect”.

As to driving Mom and Pop stores out of business. Two points: why should I be forced to use higher priced stores because of your preferences? If you like them so much, you use them and leave me out of your personal decision. Second, explain to me how Americans are richer if more people “work” by sitting behind counters and managing small stores of limited items? What wealth is produced? Would we be richer if more of us did this? Labor saving efficiency has been the key to prosperity. See the case of the textile industry in labor saving England versus technology prohibition in India under Gandhi.

As to your "Wal-Mart runs politicans" see Bryan Caplan's book "The Myth of the Rational Voter".
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TheIndependenceParty
Cranky yankee and a rehabilitated ex-Republican
08:09 AM on 04/17/2012
If they would have democracy drowned in a bathtub, to paraphrase Norquist, ... then the American People would de-bark ALEC, ... and force their putrid interests to attend to their jobs, ... behind the cash registers and desks of America nad the world.

Consumers fill their coffers, ... and consumers can empty them, unless they release their grip on our politicians. ALEC is inviting an endless boycott until they exit the political scene entirely.
08:06 AM on 04/17/2012
Surprise! Surprise! The Plutocracy is confirmed! The oligarchs and corporatist plutocrats, who rule this Nation, have to used their vehicles like ALEC to direct their paid servants. They have been, largely undercover for many years. If we want to really create, and keep a democracy in this Country, we had better find a way to publically finance elections. Until we do, we should never teach our children or call ourselves a democracy in this Country. Clearly we are not.
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den1953
The National Inquire of Politics the GOP!
08:37 AM on 04/17/2012
F&F
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davegstein
08:54 AM on 04/17/2012
Exactly,our democracy has been replaced by legislative bribery.....and our congress is an auction house....I've been saying right along,that most of our current problems would not even exist if we didn't allow competing interests of greed(in some cases interests of hate) to corrupt our system...