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Will You Marry Me? The Bible and Marriage Equality

Posted: 08/24/2012 1:54 pm

A small but growing number of clergy have decided in recent years not to sign marriage licenses because of the reality that in doing so we participate in a system that actively discriminates against gays and lesbians. This weekend I shared with my congregations in a sermon that I would join the ranks of these clergy because no where can I find a Biblical justification for this discrimination.

A generation ago interracial marriage was outlawed. This was justified by the use of Scripture. Genesis 28:1 reads: "Then Isaac called Jacob and blessed him, and charged him, 'You shall not marry one of the Canaanite women." In the past, this piece of Scripture was interpreted by some Christians to mean that Hebrews and Canaanites were of different races and therefore no races should inter-marry. We may think this silly today but when Barack Obama was born his father -- a black man -- and his mother -- a white woman -- were barred from being legally married in many states and the justification was often biblical. We have discerned over time, led by the power of the Holy Spirit, to understand not only our own error in interpretation but also the reality that some of what is written in Scripture has no moral authority over us today. Or should I quote from 1 Timothy 2:11-12?

"Let a woman learn in silence with full submission. I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she is to keep silent."

I'm willing to make the faith claim that God has no problems with interracial marriages, wants women to speak boldly with the voice of Sophia (the embodiment of God's wisdom), and that those who use Scripture to justify discrimination against gays and lesbians are making the same mistake in interpretation that we have made as a people over and over again.

I am often asked if I will marry gay and lesbian couples.

Right now I'm a United Church of Christ minister serving two Reconciling Congregations in the United Methodist Church. The United Church of Christ affirms marriage equality. The United Methodist Church says homosexuality is incompatible with Christianity. And both Sunnyside Church and University Park Church have pledged to welcome all, and are faithfully engaging the larger United Methodist Church to change the rules and truly become a church with open hearts and open doors and open minds.

So yes, I will marry any gay and lesbian couple that I believe is ready to make that commitment, using the same criteria to make that call that I would for any heterosexual couple. To respect the rules of the United Methodist Church, I will conduct those services at Ainsworth United Church of Christ, my home congregation.

Is there a risk is making this announcement?

I remember the words of Martin Luther King, Jr., who told his church:

No member of Ebenezer Baptist Church called me to the ministry. You called me to Ebenezer, and you may turn me out of here, but you can't turn me out of the ministry, because I got my guidelines and my anointment from God Almighty. And anything I want to say, I'm going to say it from this pulpit. It may hurt somebody, I don't know about that; somebody may not agree with it. But when God speaks, who can but prophesy? The word of God is upon me like fire shut up in my bones, and when God's word gets upon me, I've got to say it, I've got to tell it all over everywhere. And God has called me to deliver those that are in captivity.

So if you're gay or you're lesbian or bi-sexual or transgendered or questioning, I want it made clear to my parishioners: I am your pastor too. I am your pastor if you're straight, if you're a Democrat or a Republican, if you're black, white, Latino. And no rulebook or law will prevent me from providing you with the pastoral care I am called to provide.

What I will no longer do after September is sign wedding licenses. Until the day comes when marriage equality is the law of the land I will no longer act as an agent of the state in an institution that is discriminatory. I will offer the religious rites of the church but will invite people to have their marriage license signed by a judge or other official of the state.

When the General Synod of the United Church of Christ endorsed marriage equality in 2005, they noted:

The message of the Gospel is the lens through which the whole of scripture is to be interpreted. Love and compassion, justice and peace are at the very core of the life and ministry of Jesus. It is a message that always bends toward inclusion. The biblical story recounts the ways in which inclusion and welcome to God's community is ever expanding -- from the story of Abraham and Sarah, to the inclusive ministry of Jesus, to the baptism of Cornelius, to the missionary journeys of Paul throughout the Greco- Roman world. The liberating work of the Spirit as witnessed in the activities of Jesus' ministry has been to address the situations and structures of exclusion, injustice and oppression that diminish God's people and keep them from realizing the full gift of human personhood in the context of human communion.

I find truth in this statement and have love for the United Methodist Church, United Church of Christ and the church universal -- not as institutions, but as part of the body of Christ. We are all one in Christ. It is in that spirit of love, that I come forth to share God's call to us to love all people in ways that honor and continue the ministry of Jesus. It is a ministry that is joyful and where the Disciples -- and by extension us -- are commanded to simply to love as Jesus has loved us - without condition or judgment, and centered on God's desire for us to be free from oppression or captivity, in covenant with one another and with God.

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PlayBall101
10:36 PM on 09/10/2012
I love that a clergy member decideds that he/she will not marry straight couples until all people can homosexuals can marry.I admire his chutzpah!
04:42 PM on 09/05/2012
my problem with this isn't so much the marriage issue, but the gospel issue. this guy thinks that the gospel means that all are included then allowed to live however they desire, it seems. yes, all are included in the gospel, but EVERYONE is disciplined on the sin in their lives, and the Bible is clear about the sin of homosexuality. so i am confused about his logic.
08:37 AM on 09/23/2012
NO. You're confused about "the sin of homosexuality". The Bible IS clear about homosexuality, but only if you read more than just the one verse in selected chapters. You have to read the entire context of the message, and interpretations using the language of that period. Just as our fathers interpreted that interracial relations were a sin, we today are also misreading passages to condemn same sex relations. Nowhere in the Bible is a committed, loving relationship between two people of the same sex condemned by God or Christ.
12:29 PM on 09/01/2012
Im not sure that interracial marriage and same-sex marriage are really comparable from a Biblical point of view. The Bible is quite explicit in describing homosexual sex as sinful (though not homosexual orientation), but interpretations of interracial marriage as sinful is more implicit/unclear than explicit. The new testament portrays Christian marriage as heterosexual - http://wp.me/p2lYWR-2R
Yes, people will want to respond to this post saying that we dont live in a theocracy. That's not what Im taking about. Im responding to the pastor in regards to what is appropriate in Christian churches and Christian subcultures - Im not referring to the wider community.
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probably an old soul...
09:55 PM on 08/29/2012
theres so many things that no one ever manages to talk about or write about or even research and that is that marriages were first in the bible seen as the woman being property of the man - then they were actually financial arrangements between two wealthy families - many times the brides family offered something called a Dowry - to sweetne up the deal so to speak - the brides family offered the grooms family money cash -- jewels land etc to seal the "deal..." these were the first "mergers" actually they were financial arrangements - then there is also the "mail order bride..." which suggests most definitely a marriage between one man and one woman however once again its a financial arrangement - lets also not forget that in most heterosexual marriages thru out history it was just basically assumed the husband would also have a mistress - yet another type of sexual - financial heterosexual agreement -- then somewhere in the 1940s with the advent of popular fiction - and rommance type of novels did straight ppl really get the idea that marriage can be about love....3most straight guys that got married had concubines mistresses or even several wives - straight republicans that wont the so called truth of the situation are totally in denial of the history of marriage money and mistresses...
01:06 PM on 08/28/2012
AMEN Rev. Currie!
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Psychpro
Compassionate accountability
09:46 AM on 08/28/2012
I always like to remind people that gay couples have been given religious marriages for decades -- long before any were given civil marriages. Quietly, prehaps, but authentic wedding rights. Because it didn't involve a marrige license, no one made a fuss.

It is just not true that promotion of civil same-sex marriage has put pressure on the church.

Quite the other way around, as far as I can tell.
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Jamie South Boston
02:55 AM on 08/28/2012
Now I don't believe in the god myth but I find you to be a breath of fresh air. I don't understand why you believe but I respect your choice when it comes to gay people.
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Erin84
03:54 PM on 08/27/2012
This article is about performing religious ceremonies based on the writer's perspective on his faith. He goes on to differentiate between that, and state-sanctioned marriage, yet some on here are commenting with scripture and using their biblical interpretation to argue against the legalization and state recognition of gay marriage. Legalizing and recognizing a certain type of marriage does not force churches to perform ceremonies for, bless, or recognize such marriages. People need to learn this difference and that we have a secular government which is supposed to allow people freedom of and from religion depending on their preference. Saying "You can't change the law to legally marry your partner because it is against my religion" is like saying "It should be against the law to sell meat because I am a vegetarian."
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LoganDC1
Bumper stickers never give enough detail
05:50 AM on 08/27/2012
Brother Chuck (I'm Methodist -- I hope you don't mind me addressing you in our traditional way. Even though I'm gay), I think you're making a mistake.

If a pair assembled from among my straight brothers and sisters asks you to do the only thing you can do with regard to the civil institution of their marriage, which is to sign their civil marriage license, I would implore you not to deny them that.

Granted, as a minister, your only role in civil marriage is that you're empowered to substitute for the notary they'd otherwise have to hire -- and feed at the reception. Weddings are expensive enough already.

My point is that, while I appreciate your gesture of solidarity, your point is that you should be able to extend that blessing to adult couples without regard to sexual orientation. Please don't deny to straight couples the comfort of your office (and boost their catering bills) on my behalf.

You see, we want to get married, but we don't want to interfere with anyone else's right to be happy.

“Do all the good you can, by all the means you can, in all the ways you can, in all the places you can, at all the times you can, to all the people you can, as long as ever you can.”

You can’t refuse to do good, no matter how important the point you’re trying to make – or how much it made me smile that you’re making it.
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BeninOakland
Don't tell me you love me. Let me guess.
02:52 PM on 08/27/2012
I think you're missing the point. The Rev. is trying to teach something to hetero couples that take their legal rights for granted, without a thought to their gay and lesbian co-religionists who can't.
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LoganDC1
Bumper stickers never give enough detail
05:54 PM on 08/27/2012
Nope -- I didn't miss the point at all. I see exactly what he's doing and I can't help but love the guy for the stand he's taking. (I'm gay and grew up firmly -- and obviously incorrectly -- convinced that no straight guy would ever stand up for me like Brother Chuck is doing. My Dad beat him to it on that point.)

I'm not a celebrity watcher, but Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie, after having sunk a huge chunk of money into trying to protect my right to get married, said that they wouldn't get married until same-sex couples could get married, too. Cool, huh?

They changed their minds recently, and some people thought it should be some huge controversy, but they've got kids, and the kids are wondering why Mommy and Daddy aren't married, so they decided to get married. God bless both of them, for the kids they've adopted and given a loving home to, and for the way that Brad Pitt is helping to rebuild my home town of New Orleans (what's up with that? -- I don't know the guy but he stands up for my civil rights AND is working to rebuild my hometown even though he's both straight and not from New Orleans -- if he's not careful, people might start caling him a hero).

I get what Brother Chuck is doing, and it warms my heart. I just don't want my rights getting in the way of somebody else's happiness.
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hearthammer
If left is right and right is wrong, decide!
05:29 AM on 08/27/2012
Beats me why gay people want to get married in a place that actively discriminates against them, but hey, if that's your choice?

Personally, if you can get someone to officiate, go for it!
10:21 AM on 08/27/2012
Gay people DON'T "want to get married in a place that actively discriminates against them".

If they're people of faith, they'll choose a faith that doesn't discriminate against them. And, there's plenty of faiths that don't discriminate. Thank Zeus.
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hearthammer
If left is right and right is wrong, decide!
04:09 AM on 08/28/2012
Yeah, but there are lots of gay Xtians also. Something I've never been able to understand.
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10:14 PM on 08/26/2012
Powerfully written, Pastor. Thanks for your support.
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iLdoRight
Encouraging The Rightest Rightness
06:51 PM on 08/26/2012
Show of hands please. How many think there are ministers of unrighteousness who are pretending to be ministers of righteousness?
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Tezum
Right to arms is not greater than right to life.
02:58 AM on 08/27/2012
There are plenty, those who molest children and those who preach hate. Those who believe in love, who believe that we are all God's children and cannot claim to fully understand His word, who believe that goodness is always the right way, are not ministers of unrighteousness.
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iLdoRight
Encouraging The Rightest Rightness
02:45 PM on 08/27/2012
Jesus indicated at John 8:44 that "we" are not all "God's Children", some choose by their actions to be "children of the Devil".
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iLdoRight
Encouraging The Rightest Rightness
03:32 PM on 08/27/2012
There are many slinging "BS", (untruths) left and right and have little understanding of what is required to acquire Our Creator's approval. Do you know what the real Jesus believed of just have an idea about some of the made up ideas some have promoted about a fictitious "Jesus"?
09:20 AM on 08/27/2012
Are you referring to the child-raping Catholic priests?

Or are you referring to the lying "ministers of unrighteousness" from Westboro Baptist? Or to Tony Perkins? Or to James Dobson? Or to Pat Buchanan? Or to Jerry Falsewell? Or to Brian Brown? Or to Bryan Fischer? Or to Maggie Gallagher (not her real name)? Or to Dan Cathy? Or to Pat Robertson? Or to Jimmy Swggart? Or to Ted Haggart? Or to Catholic-basher Hagee? Or ... well, the list is long indeed, but Rev'd. Currie is not among them.
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iLdoRight
Encouraging The Rightest Rightness
02:43 PM on 08/27/2012
Are You sure anyone can take the title "Reverend" and not be putting himself on a list of people who take a title above what Jesus would accept foe himself?
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iLdoRight
Encouraging The Rightest Rightness
03:41 PM on 08/27/2012
Is it possible for anyone to accept a title like "Reverend", a title higher than Jesus would accept and still be considered to be a "follower" of Jesus? What if I told the President of the United States, " I am one of your biggest fans, please address me as, Your Most Honorable and High Dictator of the United Stated"? Goofy thought, right? Unfair analogy?
05:19 PM on 08/26/2012
Lol why should God's view of marriage change just because gay marriage is trendy now? Should 2+2=4 also change because I have a new favorite color and I see the word differently? No.
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Ioan Lightoller
Proud Gay Pagan Man, Living Happily With Husband
04:53 AM on 08/27/2012
Not all religions or even all Christian denominations share your views. And there is no reason for marriage not to be legal for same sex couples on a civil level or by clergy of a religion or denomination that is willing to do so. Your version of religion does not rule this nation--the Constitution does.

I applaud these ministers for doing this. Marriage licensing and ceremony should be in the hands of the state as it is in Europe/ Those couples wishing a religious ceremony can go to the extra time and expense/

Not everyone's god is the same as yours. Stop thinking your religious views should have any more weight than anyone else's, which is to say NONE.
11:41 PM on 09/03/2012
Lol I said "God's view of marriage" and suddenly you assumed I meant the State. I didn't know that the state is a god to you. Good to know. Looks like you need to separate your political view from your religious views. Know what I mean?
09:22 AM on 08/27/2012
What has this "God" and its "view of marriage" have ANYTHING to do with civil marriage in America? Is America now a theocracy?

P.S. My faith is perfectly fine with same-gender marriage. So why should (what is really) YOUR faith's view of marriage trump mine or anyone else's? I'm not a member of YOUR "church". Why should I be forced to agree with or abide by the tenets of a faith to which I do not subscribe?
11:49 PM on 09/03/2012
You tell me. You're the one who went from what I said to "civil marriage" even though I didn't say anything about that.

P.S. My post is directed at Christians who want to change the most fundamental part of marriage just because it's trendy to think like that nowadays. Since you're not a Christian then you can ignore me, this is not for you.
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Atwill
Christian puppets scare me
11:30 AM on 08/26/2012
Amazing minister. One who will see God, unlike so many others, who will see.. . well what ever evil people see.
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LoganDC1
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06:16 AM on 08/27/2012
You're not kidding there -- despite the fact that I disagree with him.

We've had a few exchanges here, AtWill, and that whole "friend" thing is not a euphemism where you're concerned, so I'll tell you something about my family.

I'm a Methodist. My Uncle Bill was a Methodist minister. For decades, he officiated at the weddings of everybody in our family -- including my grandparents, my parents, my aunts and uncles, my cousins, and my sister.

Uncle Bill passed away a few years ago, but I know that he would have officiated at my marriage to Mr. Right even though that would have risked a trial for heresy and the loss of his pension. (Note to self: Keep trying to find Mr. Right.)

My disagreement with Brother Chuck (our traditional Methodist way of referring to pastors) is that I don’t think he should deny straight couples the blessings of his office simply because the government denies me the rights he wants me to have.

I’ll be fine. Uncle Bill passed the baton to my cousin Anne, who is also a Methodist minister, and feels the same way he did (and no doubt still does). Sure, she’s the daughter of his wife’s first cousin, but that doesn’t matter because we’re talking about family values here.
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Atwill
Christian puppets scare me
11:51 AM on 08/27/2012
Sounds like a strong family.  nothing is more important.  Be thankful you're not saddleed with my loonies.  They are either bible thumpers (My aunt and uncle kicked their own daughter out of   their  lives when they found out she was a lesbian)  or crazy pot heads. Tell you how crazy  my brother  is.  He got about $200,000 in a law settlement,  in less then  a year he  and his buddies smoked it all away.
 
 
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The Seventh Chakra, amazon
09:41 AM on 08/26/2012
I think the bottom line if you believe in God or don't, is ultimately we have been given the "choice." it is our choice and no one elses.