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Rev. Jesse Jackson

Rev. Jesse Jackson

Posted: May 19, 2010 03:51 PM

Racial Wealth Disparities Report Underscores Immediate Need for Civil Rights Intervention

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A new study released by the Institute on Assets and Social Policy revealed that even when African-Americans had a good education and well-paying jobs, they could not achieve the wealth of their white peers in the workforce. As a result the wealth disparity between white and black households has more than quadrupled, regardless of income bracket.

Disparities are driven by racial discrimination because civil rights laws have all but been abandoned over the past decade. I am making a request that U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers, Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy to examine ways to strengthen enforcement of civil rights laws.

For example, Attorney General Holder's initiative -- launched this year to toughen enforcement of civil rights and fair lending laws -- is critical. African-Americans and Latinos have disproportionately been affected by the home foreclosure crisis, with ample studies showing these communities were steered to subprime loans when they qualified for prime rate loans.

The IASP study found that middle-income white families hold much more assets (stocks, bonds, business interests, real estate other than primary residence) than do high-income black families and that many black families hold more debt than assets and at least 25 percent of black families had no assets to turn to in times of economic hardship.

This crisis deserves a White House conference. We vote in record numbers. We serve in the military. We're playing on athletic fields. We're No. 1 in infant mortality. We have lower life expectancy. There's and obvious health gap, but more than that, a broad range of structural gaps that must be addressed. We sing, dance and entertain.

Yet, there's a painful indifference to the reduced life options of African-Americans.

 

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05:15 PM on 06/07/2010
It's my honor to respond to you, Rev. Jackson, because I respect you so much. I thank you for the long history of your service to our people and this country. However, my interpretation of this article's data is different from yours. When taking the aggregate into consideration, and not individuals, I believe that a major reason for the disparity in net wealth is our lack of preparation (i.e., personal savings, investment) and sound financial planning with the income we have earned. So many African American families have little or no FINANCIAL education to complement our higher education and subsequent professional employment, where many of our white counterparts do. AND so many of us (not just our young people) have chosen to enjoy the fruits of our labor prematurely by purchasing cars, houses, clothes, etc. - leaving us with few resources to weather financial disasters like catastrophic illness or job loss. I'm not ignoring discrimination as a contributor to this situation, but it's my opinion that it is not the sole issue here. Our parents and grandparents were hard workers and savers, but we have failed to follow the example of their values.
05:35 PM on 05/21/2010
I think this article makes some good points but it doesn't directly address the reason for asset inequality, which was one of the major reasons given for the economic disparity between middle class whites and blacks. It seems reductionist to blame this situation on racism alone and neglect to investigate why the middle class black population does not have more money invested in stocks and mutual funds. I don't have an answer for this and do not deny that racism could have a part in it, but I think that addressing the reasons for asset inequality is essential to this discussion and to finding solutions that will close this financial gap.
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Tony Dickey
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08:46 PM on 05/21/2010
Here's your cause:

"Housing issues are related to a complex web of social justice concerns. Two related concerns that are particularly relevant to housing are white privilege and wealth inequality. In fact, understanding the history of discrimination in America—particularly housing discrimination—is indispensable to understanding contemporary economic inequality. What’s the connection between housing, white privilege, and wealth inequality? Here’s a statistic that might surprise you:

The Federal Housing Administration and the Veterans Administration financed more than $120 billion worth of new housing between 1934 and 1962, but less than 2% of this real estate was available to nonwhite families—and most of that small amount was located in segregated communities."
http://talktostambrose.wordpress.com/2009/10/12/aint-so-simple-housing-privilege-and-wealth-inequality/
03:17 PM on 05/21/2010
Proposed solutions are like Ancient Native Americans fixing global warming with rain dances.

The more we draw racial lines - the more racial disparity will continue. We need to stop talking us and them. But, such is human nature.

The majority of racism is built us. Yes, every human being regardless of skin color has the propensity of being a racist. This tendency is largely responsible for the today's "Black Tax" and "White Privilege"; it rarely originates today in conscious and deliberate intent (originates in the part of us we are not consciously aware of is working.)

Fortunately, we are built to be able to reprogram this, and it doesn't take a lot of effort; it just takes the right effort.

We have simply been looking at it from the point of view of the social world we created to explain cause and effect, using the same flawed thinking processes that caused our prejudicing inclinations to take shape in socioeconomic form in the first place.

Albert Einstein was correct when he said we cannot solve problems with the same level of thinking that created them.

We need to understand the true source of racism and why it remains, and devise a method to educate the "Black Tax" and "White Privilege" tendencies out of every American - and do so without ideological or political tampering.

Reaction, hatred, blaming, etc., not only does not provide solutions, it pushes people away from involvement and reinforces racial social boundaries.
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11:47 AM on 05/21/2010
No disrespect Rev. but its not how much you make... its how much you SAVE. African Amercians are disproportionately in trouble with credit card debt. Nothing saps your net worth faster than excesssive debt. I am not singling out AAs . Many young kids today want it all and they want it all ...right away.

I moved from two bedroom 900 sq ft cottage to an 1800sq ft ranch to a 2800ft home over my lifetime.. each time making sure I could afford it and that I had the requisite equity. I never owned anthying better than a Honda civic until very recently. I now own my house outright!

This problems amongst the younger generation is not a new phenemenon but it is more pervasive today! My two cents is that we have collectively, as a society, lost our willingness to put off gratification in hopes of a secure and brighter future.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1365/is_4_35/ai_n7576609/
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Tony Dickey
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08:48 PM on 05/21/2010
just ignore the following. it never happened:

" Housing issues are related to a complex web of social justice concerns. Two related concerns that are particularly relevant to housing are white privilege and wealth inequality. In fact, understanding the history of discrimination in America—particularly housing discrimination—is indispensable to understanding contemporary economic inequality. What’s the connection between housing, white privilege, and wealth inequality? Here’s a statistic that might surprise you:

The Federal Housing Administration and the Veterans Administration financed more than $120 billion worth of new housing between 1934 and 1962, but less than 2% of this real estate was available to nonwhite families—and most of that small amount was located in segregated communities. "
http://talktostambrose.wordpress.com/2009/10/12/aint-so-simple-housing-privilege-and-wealth-inequality/
11:20 AM on 05/21/2010
You, SIR, have truly lived a principled life!
10:33 AM on 05/21/2010
So the reparations are to compensate for our "racial attitudes" that are inherent in the fact that black children think poorly of themselves? I'm sorry, but we don't live in a country where attitudes/beliefs/thoughts are determinants of legal compensation. You've never had an angry thought about another race or ethnicity? Should you be forced to compensate them for the perceived harm of such "attitudes."

I don't deny there is racism and stereotyping at every level of this culture and society....And not just this culture, all cultures throughout the world. Part of it is inherent how the brain works (we stereotype or generalize and make patterns out of particulars as a survival mechanism).

None the less, I can't help but notice that African immigrants do much better in the US than African-Americans. Same skin color. Different outcome. Is that the legacy of current racist attitudes or hundreds of years of slavery, generations abusing generations (i.e. beating the children, verbal abuse) as they were abused by their slave masters, Jim Crow, a hundred of years of being free but being oppressed and being denied access to education, extreme poverty, etc.

Absolutely. However, I never owned slaves, my family immigrated to the US at the turn of the 19th century, so no, I dont' feel personally responsible. Are we as a "nation" responsible? I don't know, maybe. Tough to tell but the whole proposition is kind of absurd at this point in time.
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Tony Dickey
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11:02 AM on 05/21/2010
You say: ' However, I never owned slaves, my family immigrated to the US at the turn of the 19th century, so no, I dont' feel personally responsible. Are we as a "nation" responsible? I don't know, maybe. Tough to tell but the whole proposition is kind of absurd at this point in time.'

Response:

Adding up Black Losses or The Cost of Discrimination

$1.6 trillion: The estimated economic loss for African Americans as a result of legal segregation for 1929-1969 (in 1983 dollars).
+ Several trillion dollars: The cost of discrimination from the end of slavery in 1865 to the year 1969, the end of American style apartheid, based on year-2000 dollars.
+ $94-123 billion: The estimate of how much Black workers lose annually from continuing discrimination and informal segregation in employment.
+ 100 billion: The estimated amount that Blacks in this generation have lost in home equity as a result of the racial discrimination they confront when they attempt to secure mortgages for homes and businesses.

= $5 to $24 trillion: The sum total of the worth of all the Black labor stolen through the means of slavery, segregation, and contemporary discrimination in today's dollars.
http://aapf.org/focus/episodes/nov3.php

So your family not only benefited from slavery (without it your family would not have moved here with the same benefits) but from AFFIRMATIVE ACTION for WHITES sponsored by FHA and others,
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11:43 AM on 05/21/2010
I don't think that reparations are to compensate for racial attitudes. Was that a deliberate mischaracterization or a misunderstanding?

Certainly, no one denies that people stereotype others. People also have murderous thoughts. The poitn is dealing with the real world effects.

African immigrants do better than AfricanAmericans, but the immigrant comparison has been roundly debunked as invalid for numerous reasons, e.g. comparing the top layer of one group with the mean of another, entrenched and specific prejudice that on some level distinguishes between "other" non-whites and Black Americans, internalized barriers resulting from dealing with racism, etc. I'm impressed that you acknowledge that, in part. We can't even get that far with most; I think because they know the rational and moral conclusion to which it leads.

And, yes, neither you nor your family owns slaves, but the responibility is a collective responsibility based on the moral realization that you benefit disproportionately from a racist system and it's history. I see you also ackowledge this, in part, even if you hesitate in acknowledge it as the responsibility of the "nation."

I understand that many whites are afraid of going down this road because they know that in any other case that reparations, in fact, does have a valid moral, as well as, legal premise. However, ignoring it won't make it go away.
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Mister Biggles
06:09 AM on 05/21/2010
"This crisis deserves a White House conference. We vote in record numbers. We serve in the military. We're playing on athletic fields. We're No. 1 in infant mortality. We have lower life expectancy. There's and obvious health gap, but more than that, a broad range of structural gaps that must be addressed. We sing, dance and entertain.

Yet, there's a painful indifference to the reduced life options of African-Americans."

Why is the sentence "We sing, dance and entertain" included in this paragraph?
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09:20 AM on 05/21/2010
I found it a bit bizarre, myself. I wrote it off to a kernel of self-hatred still present in even the Civil Rights generation. Fortunately, many didn't pass that on to the next generation.
04:42 AM on 05/21/2010
The concept of reparations is honorable, but it's execution is complicated and the full consequences have yet to be discussed. How will they elevate the status of the under-priviledged, without--
a.) jeopardizing the prosperity of the successful? In search of the monies to fund this, should we consider garnishing the wages of wealthy blacks--including Shaq, Pippen, LeBron--to 'balance' the needs of the black community? While we're justifying forced payments, here's a very deep well to commandier; surely, they owe it to their poorer brethren. Or,
b.) compounding the poverty of Anglo-Americans, who share the same bracket as the poor blacks who would be getting compensation? or
c.) punishing non-offenders (those who either fought for civil-rights, came to this country after slavery was abolished, never enslaved or discriminated against blacks) simply based on their white skin-color?

In our attempts to right the wrongs of the past (whose repercussions still affect daily life in America), we need to be careful not to allow vengeance to blind us to the true goal of unity..."a more, perfect union.". The bully of racism would just love the chance to simply switch masks and keep raping our country. Let's stop the pendulum of hate before it ruins us all.
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Tony Dickey
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04:53 AM on 05/21/2010
Well thought out (fanned in response).

I think a solution to non-offenders is to make clear how much all, America, Europe, even Asia benefited from black slavery and Jim Crow.

For instance:

"Adding up Black Losses or The Cost of Discrimination

$1.6 trillion: The estimated economic loss for African Americans as a result of legal segregation for 1929-1969 (in 1983 dollars).
+ Several trillion dollars: The cost of discrimination from the end of slavery in 1865 to the year 1969, the end of American style apartheid, based on year-2000 dollars.
+ $94-123 billion: The estimate of how much Black workers lose annually from continuing discrimination and informal segregation in employment.
+ 100 billion: The estimated amount that Blacks in this generation have lost in home equity as a result of the racial discrimination they confront when they attempt to secure mortgages for homes and businesses.

= $5 to $24 trillion: The sum total of the worth of all the Black labor stolen through the means of slavery, segregation, and contemporary discrimination in today's dollars."
http://aapf.org/focus/episodes/nov3.php

It may be the answer, but it does represent a way of presenting the "bill".
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07:01 AM on 05/21/2010
You probably will never get white Americans to support reparations for the simple facts that they are not truly sorry for the damage it has done. Anyone who is truly sorry for doing anything that has injured someone else has no problems paying for it, and often more than the damage they wrought.

I remember breaking a neighbor's windows when I was a child. I was very sorry for it. Not only did I pay for the window, but I mowed their lawn for 2 weeks.
08:17 AM on 05/21/2010
Legally, the son is not responsible for the sins of the father. The people who benefited by this are dead. What do you want to do... racially profile and say all white people need to pay black people for past sins? Why does someone like President Obama deserve to benefit? His family that were in America were white and his black side of the family lived in Africa and were never slaves. Shouldn't he be paying the bill instead of getting benefits? And why do I have to pay? My family emigrated to this country after slavery was abolished. They have always been poor and actually prejudiced against because of their original nationality (yes groups other than blacks faced prejudice in this country). The only prejudice that I ever participated in was that I was denied certain scholarships because of the color of my skin. So who should pay the "bill"?
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06:56 AM on 05/21/2010
I agree, one cannot be stupid about reparations, but instances of and supporting (some form) reparations have numerous strong examples, dating by thousands of years.
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Tony Dickey
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10:31 AM on 05/21/2010
so nice to have someone in agreement :)
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desidid
08:56 PM on 05/20/2010
Blacks do suffer from the Just-Us syndrome because our collective experience in this country is that there is little Justice for us. Jesse has long talked about parity, and the moment the issue of race comes up many whites and Asians object because they aren't the perpetrators of the injustices. But if they aren't and if they don't hold long held racist attitudes why did those children on AC360 already display racist attitudes? And why did the black children already absorb all the negative images of being black? You can disagree all you wan,t but I would ask who among you has even begun to examine how you have perpetuated these attitudes, and do so everytime you respond to one of these boards? Why is it that you can understand how your own personal history has shaped you but you can't understand how a nation's history has shaped its people?

I've said this before and it bares repeating today I see how stereotypes are born in the rhetoric surrounding the illegal immigrants. The are portrayed as hardworking with family values but you put blacks in those same jobs we become people with no ambition. And the really sad part is that many of you feel that your intelligence lets you see the world from this position of equity, and you can't see what is right in front of you. I expect to either get no responses to this or angry ones and either response supports exactly what I'm saying.
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rmship
10:15 PM on 05/20/2010
Best post i have read in a looooong time...dont stop they need to read it...
11:48 PM on 05/20/2010
I can understand the anger or concern of Black Americans on this issue of wealth disparities, but you have to admit that your mind is already made up. Let's look at a few of your questions and then I will make some points of my own. On the issue of the children on AC360, racism is something you learn at home or through people you trust enough to emulate. It may not be learned at home, but it is surely being picked up in an environment of trust.

I will now make some points of my own. There have been many civilizations throughout history where one culture has been enslaved to service another. This has been done in many ages and on many continents. Be proud that you come from a people who have not only survived, but have struggled and died to have a voice. Be proud that Black Americans have the rights to boast of people in their American history like George Washington Carver, Frederick Douglass, Thurgood Marshall, Toni Morrison, Rosa Parks, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., any of the Massachusetts 504th Civil War infantry, any honorable member of the Tuskeegee Airmen, Danny Glover and last, but certainly not least...Warrick Dunn. White folks have nothing to brag about in recent times. Remember Jesse Helms? George H.W. and George W. Bush? Rush Limbaugh?

Be proud of your heritage, stay informed, stay educated, stay positive and true to yourself. Anger leads to weakness and also to excuses.
02:14 AM on 05/21/2010
Shouldn't we at least acknowledge that that slavery even upon its end left blacks in an inferior position, i.e. no land, few possessions, and at the mercy of their former owners. This was never really addressed and current disparity is very much a result of that enslavement 150 years ago and the attitudes it spawned.
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Tony Dickey
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04:55 AM on 05/21/2010
Proud heritage DOESN'T PAY THE MORTGAGE!

" Adding up Black Losses or The Cost of Discrimination

$1.6 trillion: The estimated economic loss for African Americans as a result of legal segregation for 1929-1969 (in 1983 dollars).
+ Several trillion dollars: The cost of discrimination from the end of slavery in 1865 to the year 1969, the end of American style apartheid, based on year-2000 dollars.
+ $94-123 billion: The estimate of how much Black workers lose annually from continuing discrimination and informal segregation in employment.
+ 100 billion: The estimated amount that Blacks in this generation have lost in home equity as a result of the racial discrimination they confront when they attempt to secure mortgages for homes and businesses.

= $5 to $24 trillion: The sum total of the worth of all the Black labor stolen through the means of slavery, segregation, and contemporary discrimination in today's dollars. "

http://aapf.org/focus/episodes/nov3.php
07:29 PM on 05/20/2010
hey Jesse, I been working with an a long side of Blacks for 40 years in a Union shop, they made the same as me, but they work, they was not lazy.
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09:25 PM on 05/20/2010
You didn't speak to his point. In fact, you are indirectly supporting it. Despite years of hard work, the wealth disparity remains. He points directly to the financial system, which is correct, which lends captial which becomes the basis for wealth whether in one's home or in one's business.
07:01 PM on 05/20/2010
Dear Jesse Jackson,
I am a 4th generation Ethiopian American. All four of my grandparents were born in the between 1912 and 1919. They all found good jobs, they all put their children through college, and they were all home owners. Keep in mind they were all my age in the late 1920's-30's when discrimination was very high. Why is it that African Americans have been able to find success in America where many Black Americans have not? In order to be successful you have to value education and a lifestyle that will lead to wealth not deplete wealth.

As for Blacks who make lots of money but don't have wealth there is an old saying that applies to everyone: It's not what you make it's what you save. If you make $1,000,000 a year and you spend $1,000,000 a year then you will have wealth of $0 a year. [Owning stocks and a home does not in and of itself make you wealthy because they are market valued items. They are only wealth if they hold or increase their value, if they fall in value then they are not a wealth but a liability. A home is only "wealth" if you own it in full, not if you carry a mortgage.]
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Daniela Smith
09:01 PM on 05/20/2010
Very well stated!
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09:51 PM on 05/20/2010
The problem with your analysis is that it's purely anecdotal. As I mentioned before, my net worth is in excess of $2 million, but by no means do I compare my situation to the mean.

Also, aside from the rather obvious statement that spending all of one's money leaves one with nothing, your analysis of what is considered wealth is off. Wealth is equity, assets minus liabilities. This includes wealth in one's home, even if one carries a mortgage, because there is a way to "get at" that equity, e.g. sell and downsize to take equity in cash. And, yes, you do "own" your home and can do with it what you will, the lender merely has a "lien" against the property, much like a mechanic can place a lien against it if you don't pay him for work done to your home. Both are in the same situation and do not "own" your home, even if you "feel" that they do.

The difference in wealth between Blacks and whites is real, even if it is difficult to comprehend in abstract. The mean white family has nearly 20 times the wealth of the mean Black family. This is primarily due to access to capital (in which to buy large assets and build equity through appreciation of those large valued assets), particularly through loans and stable employment in which to support those loans; both of which are historicallly heavily affected by racism.
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Tony Dickey
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05:23 AM on 05/21/2010
You are correct, but could also add:

" The rise in value of these homes has provided many Americans with the wealth they need to live comfortably and to prosper. African Americans and other members of racial minority groups, however, were, more often than not, systematically excluded from access to these loans. In virtually every city in America, Black neighborhoods were “redlined”, or marked ineligible for FHA loans. Even for those that could afford it, buying a home in a non-redlined market was also barred by government policy. The FHA, fearing that integration would be detrimental to property values, urged lenders to keep white neighborhoods white. The FHA Underwriting Manual stated that "[i]f a neighborhood is to retain stability, it is necessary that properties shall continue to be occupied by the same social and racial classes." It recommended the use of racially restrictive covenants (agreements not to sell, transfer, or rent to, or even allow occupancy by someone from another race) from its inception in 1934 until 1950.

As a result, while white wealth skyrocketed as government funds helped millions of families to achieve the American dream of home ownership, Black families and other communities of color were left behind. Redlining policies were in place until 1977, when they were finally made illegal..."
http://aapf.org/focus/episodes/nov3.php

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02:14 PM on 05/23/2010
That was probably true up to the 80's or so but if you check with FannieMae/FreddieMac, you'll see that loans to blackamericans were at an all time high, seeing a jump in the mid 90's until the recession. As for "studies" and other "poll" they are easy to lean one way or the other. How these studies/polls are conducted are just as important as the results.
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givesflack
shrink GOP small enough to drown in bathtub
06:14 PM on 05/20/2010
Most teabaggers are against wasteful government spending unless its spending they like (war, oil, etc- nothing that makes sense) or corporations ripping them off with exorbitant prices; as long as they have a chance to be rich in this wealth worshiping country they hope. Meanwhile, they fight in Greece and Thailand against injustice while we are still puppets to the moneyed elite?
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RUKidding0
Freedom is Fundamental
07:23 PM on 05/20/2010
What part of fiscal conservatism do you fail to understand?

For fiscal conservatives, Bush is only marginally better than Obama - both are proponents of bigger government, just for different reasons and different ends.
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Juanamigo
08:17 PM on 05/20/2010
I agree!
People need to know that there are MANY of us out here who don't like Obama when it comes to spending, and we didn't like Bush either!
When it comes to spending THEY BOTH SUCK!
02:20 PM on 05/23/2010
Do you fact checking. Obama spent more in one year than Bush did in 8....
02:25 AM on 05/21/2010
Hmmm. Would you consider spending you like to be wasteful?
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bleubunny
Technically, we were beyond survival.
08:01 AM on 05/21/2010
They would like complete anarchy apparently.
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givesflack
shrink GOP small enough to drown in bathtub
06:04 PM on 05/20/2010
How about the two wars- aren't they programs that didn't work?
Tax cuts, another program- did that work?
How about the deregulation program- that one seemed to end all f@&%$** programs from the Right Wing.
Now you're crying about JJ helping people and thus the economy stupid? and that programs are the problem? No, the Right Wing is the problem.
Lets cut Right Wing and solve everything.
05:37 AM on 05/21/2010
As a member of the so-called right wing, I agree...cut us off. In fact we'll give you California...oh wait, you guys already have California, and are doing a splended job of running that state into the ground. 25 billion in debt, having to cut benefits for their workers, state services such as DMV not being opened on Saturdays anymore, state employees working 4 day work weeks every other week, paying state employees with IOU's, driving out businesses with strict regulation, unemployment on the rise. This is what happens when you let the inmates run the asylum.
02:34 PM on 05/23/2010
Quite true. The numbers are out there to research but you dont have to do that. Just read the news. Also, if you havent noticed, more and more movies are being made outside of hollywood due to the huge taxes imposed on films with budgets great than 100 million (might wanna double check that figure). Films like Daybreakers, 30 Days of Night, The Matrix, all of the Star Wars movies were made outside of the US for that very reason. Taxes too high in CA. No nation has ever taxed itself into prosperity.
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givesflack
shrink GOP small enough to drown in bathtub
05:56 PM on 05/20/2010
We need to sign the 2nd Bill of Rights that FDR proposed in his last year of his presidency. Economic Equality is a right and not a privilege. It is something that would correct all the misinformation from the Right who think most should fail and only the elite deserve their wealth however they accomplished it. the 2nd Bill of Rights would create a right to a fair wage, health care, pension and not one determined by your employer but one determined by your citizenship and self worth. All people deserve to better than what the free market has perpetuated on our country and others. It has got to end. And any teabaggers B_S gets no reaction from me. You're us_eless in any discussion regarding life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. How do you live with yourselves.
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Juanamigo
08:29 PM on 05/20/2010
Givesflack I respect your opinion.
I heard about the second bill of rights on the Tom Hartman show.
In that scenario, when one person wants to work very hard, take risk and sacrifice, and another person doesn't want to live this way; they want to work as little as possible and not very hard how does this pan out? Should the person who does not want to work as hard (or as much) have as much material wealth as someone who does?
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tjgg
Intolerance will not be tolerated.
09:11 AM on 05/21/2010
I respect your opinion, too. I will grant that, in theory, your assertions are correct. It WOULD be unfair for someone who "works less" to profit from the efforts of those who "work harder."

However, please take a step back, look objectively at our CURRENT economy, not the "ideal" one...and tell me with a straight face that the wealthiest Americans are really there at the top of the food chain because they "work harder." Tell me that the CEO of a health care company or finance company just "works harder" than a construction worker who puts in 14-hour days of manual labor...or a doctorate-level social worker...or an inner-city cop...or a trauma nurse... You get the picture. There once was a time in this country that getting an education, working hard and sacrificing, making good decisions, was a ticket to prosperity for most people. Those things can no longer be counted on. College-educated, hard-working people are losing their pensions, their homes, and their jobs, while those at the very top 2% of wealth are giving themselves 7-figure bonuses for shoddy work and bad business decisions, and using their buying power to influence Congress to keep the laws in their favor. The system is BROKEN...it's not just about "who works hardest" anymore.
05:40 AM on 05/21/2010
The 2nd Bill of Rights...coming from the same guy that called Stalin "Uncle Joe" and put almost every Japanese person living in the US in Internment Camps for 'being spys' taking away their jobs and their lives in the process.
05:52 PM on 05/20/2010
"The IASP study found that middle-income white families hold much more assets (stocks, bonds, business interests, real estate other than primary residence) than do high-income black families..."

And this is somehow a civil rights issue? No Reverend Jackson, it is a "spend less than you earn" issue which speaks to personal responsibility. Why don't you talk about that sometime instead of asking the government to redistribute more wealth.
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10^300 bosons could care less.
09:58 PM on 05/20/2010
Redistribution of wealth is the appropriate approach to bring about wealth parity; the mechanics of that redistribution is the question. It makes little sense to focus purely on the tiny efforts of an individual in relation to a system that "adjusts" it relationship to that particular individual (e.g. via racism) without addressing the question of wealth parity on a system level.
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Tony Dickey
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05:17 AM on 05/21/2010
Sorry your theory is misinformed:

"The Federal Housing Administration and the Veterans Administration financed more than $120 billion worth of new housing between 1934 and 1962, but less than 2% of this real estate was available to nonwhite families—and most of that small amount was located in segregated communities."
http://talktostambrose.wordpress.com/2009/10/12/aint-so-simple-housing-privilege-and-wealth-inequality/