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Raiding the Creation Museum with Peaceful Pirate Atheists

Posted: 03/19/11 08:55 PM ET

As I stood in line, I looked around at everyone in line. Science T-shirts abounded with sayings like, "Stand Back, I'm about to do Science," "Evolve" and "Teach the Controversy." Hardly earth shattering worldview statements. I didn't see any T-shirts like, "God sucks" or "Ham blows." In truth, while standing in line, I didn't even hear any real snickers. All the Pirate Atheists looked curiously about them, pointing out certain features and marveling at museum grounds. No one seemed to be brandishing their intellectual swords or sneering at the Christians who entered the museum.

I felt sorry for the Christians going to the museum. Many of them had driven long distances to come to the museum, some from as far away as Florida. In fact, one family had built their whole vacation around the trip to the museum. I don't think any of them knew there would be 300 atheists raiding the museum during the visit.

I loved some of the Christians who came up and started engaging the atheists. Some of them even went with our group all the way through the museum.

I wish I could say the same for others and some of the museum staff.

Here is the thing: I realize it had to be a tense moment for the museum folks. You have a world famous atheist blogger, who can be a jackass, visiting your museum with three hundred Pirate Atheists. It can't have been easy to deal with all of that. I get it.

However, the whole time we went through the museum, I felt watchful eyes on us. I soon realized why. Since I was hanging out with Ashley and her boyfriend, I was also attached to the PZ contingent moving through the museum. All eyes were on us, including a couple of unidentified suits. I had no idea (and still don't) who these guys might have been. They didn't engage the group and watched with an obvious hostile eye. I mean, I'm a Christian, and I felt the hostility. Instead of walking with PZ and the group, they chose to stay removed from us.

I could understand all of that, maybe, but I couldn't understand the guard dogs. Yes, you heard right, guard dogs.

Apparently, the Creation Museum has had to deal with a few bomb threats, most likely from 13 year olds taking a break from their World of Warcraft games. From whom the threats were actually made has never been stated, but they have used these threats to instill a first class security force. In fact, the director of the security force gives seminars on how to train churches on "Security for Faith Based Organizations."

There just seems to be something wrong with that picture.

Anyway, part of this security entails training bomb sniffing dogs. These dogs and their handlers were in full force that day. Later, I talked to a Christian who organized security for traveling Smithsonian exhibits about bomb sniffing dogs. He pointed out that there could be two possible reasons. One, they had received a credible threat, but in that case they should have cleared the building. In the second case scenario, the dogs, even though not especially aggressive, where often used as an intimidation factor to keep tense situations under control.

As the Creation Museum hadn't been evacuated, I assumed the second.

I can't tell you how much this bothered me and how contrary to the Gospel it seemed to be. I realize that in this post-9/11 world we are all a little paranoid. However, the last time I checked, there are no atheist terrorist groups. In fact, despite all of their in-your-face rhetoric, Pirate Atheists are some of the least likely people to commit physical violence or deface someone's property. They might sneer. They might use cutting sarcasm. They might wear silly T-shirts. They might go over the line in their rhetorical flourishes, but they aren't going to bomb anybody. So I'm not sure who prepared the risk assessment at the Creation Museum that day, but they didn't do their homework.

Unfortunately, they did a severe discredit to the Gospel. Instead of really going the extra mile to make the atheists feel welcome and answer their questions, they treated the atheists with passive aggressive fear.

I can't excuse Christians acting like the slightest atheist objection or presence will cause the whole truth of the Gospel to come crashing down. I can't excuse Christians giving fearful looks, whispering to their children about disruptive atheists, or avoiding atheists like the plague.

Let's get back to our walk through of the museum.

As you enter the museum, you walk through a narrow pathway boarded with animatronic dinosaurs. Tucked away in the plants, you see human statues, which is a subtle way of telling everyone that Young Earth Creationists think humans interacted with dinosaurs.

The path funnels you into a box canyon pathway, inviting you to contemplate the nature of geology. As you follow this path, you enter an exhibit about the forming of the Grand Canyon by the flood along with two geologists, one Christian, one atheist talking about the same facts, but different interpretations. I know atheists critiqued this, but there is an interesting point in this exhibit. That is, the way we interpret the world around us depends greatly on our worldview.

The exhibit that drove me crazy began with two large posters, one with the books of "man" and one with the scrolls of the Torah on one side. The lettering on the posters is spelled out for you in case you didn't get the point. God's wisdom against man's wisdom, and the implication is obvious: God's wisdom is Young Earth Creationism, a statement that leaves no alternatives.

Part three to come in a few days.

 
 
 

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hayness
A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence
07:06 PM on 03/26/2011
But questioning (and the answers to those questions) DOES make the whole edifice come crashing down. I've seen it happen many times. They are right to be defensive, because they have no sensible answers.
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Thinkster
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02:13 PM on 03/26/2011
No one should take this "museum" seriously - not theists, atheists,"creationists", "intelligent designers", scientists or any one else.

This "museum" is nothing more than a carney show - it's about getting the "rubes" and "marks" in and taking their money.

Foolishness.
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UnderTheHedgeWeGo
Show me some evidence.
04:15 PM on 03/21/2011
Several years ago I was in a natural history museum in the San Francisco Bay Area (not exactly a hub of Christian fundamentalism). I was in a 360 diorama of a Cambrian swamp showing amphibians taking their first steps onto dry land. A clean neat man in his early thirties had a dozen 10 to 12 year old children with him. He sweep his arm over the display and said "None of happened. It's all a lie". I felt as if my head were a tiled room in which someone had driven a golf ball. He had turned a science museum into a Creationist teaching tool. I said nothing. If the children were teenagers perhaps I would have blurted out my descent. I still question whether I was watching child abuse and did nothing.
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wbthacker
Can YOU pass the Turing Test?
03:24 PM on 03/21/2011
I'm an atheist and evolutionist; I think Ham and his museum are a load of crap.

What I don't understand from reading this or the Reverend's previous essay is, why did the "pirate atheists" visit the museum? I imagine that's what the people at the museum were wondering.

I participate in gay pride events, where the arrival of a large group of evangelical Christians triggers immediate security issues. Our Columbus parade has been visited by Fred Phelps' brood from WBC as well as faith-based bigots from several local churches. We keep a close eye on them, with security forces always close by.

We know they didn't come to be supportive or just to observe and learn. If we're lucky, they're just trying to spoil our fun by annoying a people. If we're unlucky they might do something physical, e.g. form a human chain to block the parade route. They might say something that makes someone mad enough to throw a punch at them, so they can act like they're the innocent victims.

The creation museum staff had all these concerns, plus this: They run a business and they don't want people annoying their paying customers. Maybe they were watching you to make sure you didn't annoy anyone else.

Overall, I can't see any reason to blame them for stepping up security. Frankly, I'm glad. At $25/head for admission, your group donated $7500 to their cause. I hope they spent it *all* on security.
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Uncle Bob
Darwin loves you.
04:38 PM on 03/21/2011
Really? You can't think of a reason atheists would be interested in going to a creation museum? Do you ever wonder why people go to comedy clubs also?
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wbthacker
Can YOU pass the Turing Test?
10:00 AM on 03/22/2011
Well, yes, that's my suspicion, that Myers' group went to laugh at them. Did they consider how this would affect other visitors?

To me, this place is just about a church. I think nearly all their visitors are people looking for a religious experience, not scientific enlightenment. So it seems inappropriate to me to go there to be amused by their silliness, just as it would be rude to go to a church service because you find it funny.

Both are OK if you remain quiet and respectful of what other people are there to experience. I don't think you can take a group of a dozen atheists into such a place without someone letting loose a snigger or groan or something else that spoils the occasion for the regular clientele, and according to this story Myers took 300.

So I'm inclined to see this as a provocative act by my fellow atheists, and I can't really blame the creation museum for assuming they were up to no good. I'm just not agreeing with the Reverend's argument that the museum was being "unchristian" by taking these precautions.
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rationaljimmy
love-child of Tom Jefferson & Carl Sagan
10:17 AM on 03/21/2011
Please get over the tired message that atheists go 'over the line' with rhetorical flourishes and in-your-face dialogue. This style of interaction is seen as inappropriate not because it's wrong, but because it's aimed at religion, which apparently is still considered beyond criticism. It's the same as rules against criticism of kings and queens. You can say it about normal people, but don't say it about the queen. If religion wants to exist without objective critique, it should stay in the subjective world and avoid subjects like science, geology, and evolution, and the dinosaur timeline.
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iwinagin
12:19 PM on 03/21/2011
You are preaching to the choir. The Rev. himself suggests that the creation museum is an inappropriate interjection of religious faith into science. As for atheists going over the line. Scan back through the comments to this article. Many of the comments from atheists could have been phrased in a less sarcastic less insulting manner. Being "right" doesn't give the right to be mean.
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rationaljimmy
love-child of Tom Jefferson & Carl Sagan
02:07 PM on 03/21/2011
The point is that if atheists, or anybody else, uses this kind of language to critique any other non-rational endeavor (the blabberings of Palin, Colter, Khadafi, Beck, street-corner loonies, etc.) it's not condemned as 'sarcastic' or 'insulting'. It's considered reasonable critique of non-rational thought. Posters on stories about Beck are rarely called out for sarcasm. The difference is that religion is reserved as a protected entity which is considered 'sensitive' by it's protectors. The atheists you refer to are simply giving religion it's proper place in modern life: just another non-rational endeavor by humans. Religion has no right to protection from sarcasm or insult.
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Kirk Job-Sluder
06:57 PM on 03/20/2011
Nice article, thank you.
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Uncle Bob
Darwin loves you.
06:08 PM on 03/20/2011
"Pirate Atheists are some of the least likely people to commit physical violence or deface someone's property."

It is often suggested that you can't be moral without a belief in god. Add in to that every 20th century atrocity was caused by atheists (nazi's, commies, etc), then it seems only fair to assume all atheists are itching to do violence at all times?
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trekbette
Country Before Party!
07:33 PM on 03/20/2011
Nazi's are not Atheists. Hitler was a Christian. And as for commies... if someone thinks they are a god, and demands people worship them, that does not make them an Atheist, it makes then a nut.
08:18 PM on 03/20/2011
No person who has really looked at the facts would assert that Hitler was Christian.

And that's all she wrote....
08:53 PM on 03/20/2011
Many thanks to wikipedia:
Hitler once stated, "We do not want any other god than Germany itself. It is essential to have fanatical faith and hope and love in and for Germany.” Heiden, Konrad (1935). A History of National Socialism, p. 100, A.A. Knopf
Hitler was taken to church as a child. How many atheists commenting here were taken to church as children? Hmmm? He certainly used elements when it suited him, but his ultimate goal was to eliminate Christianity.
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mrkurtzhedead
I'll be back, when it's dark!
11:47 AM on 03/21/2011
So the atrocities of Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were done because they were atheists--in the name of "no God"? Sorry, they were done in the name of the mad leaders themselves--it was about power and control and had nothing to do with atheism. Stalin even promoted the eastern Orthodox Church beginning with the dark days of Stalingrad and the churches flourished.

They have nothing to do with today's atheists who are only promoting REASON -- something the three monsters mentioned above were obviously not capable of.
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04:59 PM on 03/20/2011
Not all of us Christians are right wingers, so put that prejudice to rest, please. Not all of us are creationists either. Amen
10:29 PM on 03/20/2011
Well I were xtian and extremists were hijacking my religion, I'd be fighting against them anywhere and everywhere I could. You may want to do the same. If you're not willing to do that then you have no reason to whine. If you're not willing to stand up for yourself then be aware there are gaggles of fundies already speaking for you. Stop being a "good German" xtian and speak up, ferchrissakes!
gutteringdawn
It's the Enlightenment, St*pid!
08:33 AM on 03/21/2011
i don't believe the propaganda that all Christians are right wing literalists. In fact I live in a area suffused with liberal sects from liberal Episcopalians to universalists and UC of Cs.

The problem is that they are sort of like the serving tray or the bed of lettuce to the ideologically driven entree. They create an atmosphere of cultural acceptance for the fundamentalists.

I urge you to be loud and proud about your variety of religious experience, and don't be afraid to criticize those coreligionists with whom you disagree. Believe me, they criticize you and are more than likely to consider you not actually Christian.
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soma77
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02:08 PM on 03/20/2011
I am a Christian and feel many Christians spend so much time dismantling, reinterpreting and rebuilding the teachings in the Bible that they have no time to love and serve the people around them. I feel Christian attacks on other scriptures and non-Christians show their uncertain and confused matters in love and Christian doctrine. I feel Christian leaders have led their flocks astray not because of Bible complexity, but because they are unfamiliar with the spiritual wisdom the words point to. They would rather concentrate on the fingers that point so they point at others also. http://thinkunity.com
02:06 PM on 03/20/2011
If these fundies didn't constantly try to push their religion into politics and policies that affect me, I wouldn't attack it. Until then, its fair game and I will make no apologies for hurting the feelings of thin-skinned believers.
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whirlpool
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05:02 PM on 03/20/2011
You might be better served if you spent your time getting politically organized than in just attacking fundies. They are not listening anyway.
08:24 PM on 03/20/2011
They have the right to push their positions, just as you do. I'm willing to bet if you compared your motives to those of the people you abhor...on second thought it's good for you your mind will not let you go there.
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mrkurtzhedead
I'll be back, when it's dark!
11:41 AM on 03/21/2011
No atheists are pushing fantasy and superstition into public school science classes, thus violating the constitution.
HSC55
We will be known forever by the tracks we leave
12:48 PM on 03/20/2011
"I can't excuse Christians acting like the slightest atheist objection or presence will cause the whole truth of the Gospel to come crashing down."

Great observation. Why do you think that so many Christians these days feel under attack? Because we atheists/agnostics are not being politely silent anymore and letting them get away with with their delusions. Mainly because they are trying to change laws and school ciriculums to fit their world view.
03:19 PM on 03/20/2011
Oh, I thought that is exactly what a-theists have done and are still trying to do. i.e. "trying to change laws and school curriculums to fit their world view." I guess what is good for the goose isn't good for the gander.
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Uncle Bob
Darwin loves you.
05:51 PM on 03/20/2011
Keeping school secular isn't an atheistic worldview. All religious minorities are for it because it is the most inclusive. Only people that feel they are in the majority can't seem to grasp this simple fact.
12:25 PM on 03/21/2011
Science should be taught in school, not religion. Religion should be taught in CHURCH! Let's say, though that religion was taught. Which religion would you want taught, as we are a multicultural society? If Christianity, then which denomination would you want teaching your child (Jehovah's Witness, Mormon, Catholic, Baptist, Scientology)? Your children might come home speaking of the mothership, or that the garden of Eden was in Idaho, or that Jesus visited America!
gutteringdawn
It's the Enlightenment, St*pid!
09:50 PM on 03/20/2011
Christians feel under attack for many reasons. Here are just a few:

1. Encouraging one's flock to feel under attack builds reinforces herd instinct
2. Reality is constantly tapping them on the shoulder and refuting huge quantities of their truth claims
3. Christianity started as a religion of the persecuted, so it's in their liturgical genome
12:02 PM on 03/20/2011
I saw this place in Bill Maher's "Religulous". Too bad they spent all that money on a total fantasy. I might buy one of their t-shirts for laughs.
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signgrrl
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06:28 PM on 03/20/2011
i LOVED that movie !!
10:14 PM on 03/20/2011
If you guys liked that movie, I suggest "The Genius of Charles Darwin", a three-part mini-series about evolution and it's implications on modern society hosted by Richard Dawkins.
12:30 PM on 03/21/2011
You should see Julia Sweenie's "Letting Go of God". It is the best, and even funnier thant Religulous.
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HarmNone
Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations
02:32 PM on 03/26/2011
Fanned. I have both movies - great!
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ninetailedfox
banning people.....so childish
11:36 AM on 03/20/2011
I find it frustrating, that even in 2011, people take the bible and its beliefs to heart. The bible has been used to condone, slavery, burning witches and heretics, wars, crusades, and many other bad actions. Oh sure some christians stopped slavery, but both sides were christian.

Unfortunately, they did a severe discredit to the Gospel. Instead of really going the extra mile to make the atheists feel welcome and answer their questions, they treated the atheists with passive aggressive fear.

Yep, this is why im an ex christian. I saw through christian arrogance, and frankly ive seen more and more of it the older I get.
gutteringdawn
It's the Enlightenment, St*pid!
10:15 PM on 03/20/2011
Frustrating?!?! It's truly maddening.

It's some kind of reductio ad absurdum of "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink."

It's total proof that humans aren't as clever as they think they are. Some combination of psychology and genetics forever mires most of us in this backwards thought process.

I admire you for taking off the blinders. I know it's not easy if they last into adulthood. Luckily I lost mine in Sunday school.
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Indigo1941
Time traveler.
11:33 AM on 03/20/2011
So when this "God" person they talk about "created" the Grand Canyon, did he snap his fingers to make it happen or was it something he assembled from a kit?
gutteringdawn
It's the Enlightenment, St*pid!
10:15 PM on 03/20/2011
No, no, it was a "just take away water" mix.
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Indigo1941
Time traveler.
10:22 PM on 03/20/2011
Fair enough.
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myzenthing
11:22 AM on 03/20/2011
"In fact, one family had built their whole vacation around the trip to the museum."

So instead of exposing their children to a national park, an historic city like Philadelphia, or even just some fun on the beach, they feel the need to take them to this cartoonish propaganda exhibit patrolled by guard dogs. And people wonder why American kids are falling behind the rest of the world...
03:22 PM on 03/20/2011
They probably already saw all those other things.
Wow, guard dogs that sat and looked. And, two guys that looked at them from a distance. Talk about an overblown criticism. Can't get much more over dramatic than that to make a non-spectacular point.
I think it called "over acting".
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signgrrl
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06:31 PM on 03/20/2011
i think the phrase you are searching for is "over-reacting".
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myzenthing
06:10 PM on 03/21/2011
What makes you think they saw the other things? If they are like many fundy families, they reject and/or avoid the things that don't agree with their extremist beliefs. And they often home-school/religion-school their children. It's the "Close your eyes, cover your ears, I can't hear you!" syndrome.