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Three Wise Men: Is Communication Possible?

Posted: 06/26/2012 5:37 pm

I'd like to spend an evening with Pope Benedict, send out for a pizza from a great place near the Vatican, open a bottle of Italian red wine, put our feet up, relax and share, well, an unfogettable conversation.

Could we include Billy Graham? He's also an octogenarian. I assume each of us had some kind of bout with arthritis, a touch of glaucoma, a wave of fatigue and a growing awareness of approaching departure from Earth.

How do I see Pope Benedict and Billy Graham? Frankly, Pope Benedict often appears isolated with increasingly unrealistic, other-century views of human sexuality. Similar to mythical King Canute, who vainly stood at an ocean edge and commanded the waves to cease, he enforces celibacy for priests with apparent disastrous results. One is, of course, the scandal of pedophile priests. Tragically, he demeans the role of women by danying them ordination and denigrating the holy role of nuns.

Through the years I've been fully aware of the major role played by Billy Graham in American religion. On July 16, 1973, I flew to St. Paul, Minn., to attend "Youth Night" at the Billy Graham Upper Midwest Crusade. He appeared to personalize religion, I noticed, and did not mention slums and the absence of equal opportunity in America. In other words, I didn't hear him say that participating in the liberation of people is actual work of salvation. In his sunny litany, bright and crisp, I couldn't find identification with what is called the dark midnight of the soul.

I wondered: Can one speak of personal salvation without a radically sacrificial concern for the needs of others and a consequent transformation of society in the image of God? A bread-and-butter issue for me was I didn't want church and state to draw close together. I wanted to be saved from a superchrist in a superstate. I still do.

The fact that I am a gay Episcopal priest still stands between Graham and me. Graham was interviewed by the Associated Press when he began his first Belgian crusade. A reporter asked if he thought a homosexual could make a good preacher. "I don't know," Graham replied. "I never met one. No one has ever come up to me and said, 'Hello, I'm a homosexual ' I wouldn't know." Maybe I should fax him: "Can we have lunch?"

Despite personal differences, and obviously different points of view on a number of issues, could Pope Benedict and Billy Graham and I sit down for an evening's camaraderie and sharing of views? I've described how they appear to me. How might I appear to them? I've been reported in the media over the years as representative of an "underground church." This refers to an enduring, unofficial spiritual and religious movement that is inlevitably unoffficial and largely undocumented. I've never fit easily into any framework of established religion. I was a Freedom Rider in 1961, highly active in civil rights for decades, and the author of a surprise, slim volume of prayers "Are You Running with Me, Jesus?" that shocked everybody by selling a million copies and altering definitions of spirituality.

I feel a kinship with Pope Benedict and Billy Graham. Clearly there is a quality of sincerity and faith in both. Neither is simply an individual but a global religious figure. Each represents a seemingly endless array of both existential and mystical messages.

I'd still love to send out for that pizza in Rome.

 
 
 
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What is Job's Crucible?
02:25 PM on 06/30/2012
If three mathematicians sat down to discuss that 1+1= 2, I don't think they would have any problems understanding that truth. If the Word of God is an absolute like mathematics, then communication should flow freely so long as all three follow the Word of God. Communication will break down when one of the mathematicians claim that 1+1 = 4 BECAUSE he said it was so. This is what has happened within the Church and even Jesus addressed that sin in Revelation when He denounced 5 or the 7 churches for compromising His Word (Revelation 2-3). Jesus also made it clear that one's mind (especially a so-called minster of a Christian church) should be one Him-and not agendas or to be advocates for certain social causes. One that does that reveals that he/she is actually an adversary against Jesus. Once one is an adversary against Jesus, no communication can occur because that person is not of the same mind set as those who are following the Word of God. That reality is made evident-in black and white-in Philippians 2:1-4). Once one says that 1+1 does not equal 2, you are dealing with a person that wants to lean on their own understanding( Proverbs 3:5) and desires to bring discord among the brethren (Proverbs 6:19).
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01:44 PM on 06/27/2012
Religious people say that their religion calls people into meeting others and into dialogues. Some say they are liberal, others say they are moderate. Just what does this mean: How can anyone disagree with an interpretation of a part of a scripture made by a person more fundamentalist or liberal?

“That’s what happens every day between the different religions, churches and denominations”, (says the moderate person of faith).

Yes but shouldn’t they all be fundamentalists and agree? I don’t see how one can be a moderate or a liberal in any scriptural religion.

Some will argue that there are many things in scriptural teaching for example that may have parallels in other religions, in other denominations and we have to keep engaging in dialogue in order to learn from one another with respect.

But that is like saying, on the one hand, that the scriptures have the truth and on the other that you can dialogue and interpret the same scriptures differently ad nauseum. That seems very contradictory to me.

“What’s so contradictory about it”, you might say? “Believers are not called into the obedience to rituals, or following of a scripture, not called into literalist ignorance, but called into love, forgiveness, mercy, and compassion.”

The contradiction comes from the fact that if you dialogue as much as you say you do, then sooner or later (and it should have already happened) you will have everyone to agree on the truth; you’d have a compromise, wouldn’t you?
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10:17 PM on 06/27/2012
Religions say that there are parallels between different religious philosophies. However they will all invariably turn around and say that for the sake of truth they can’t simply brush over their differences and negotiate to form a compromise on the Truth. So where does that leave us? I mean people who are hoping to find the one religion that has that truth.

Dialogue would only mean that the theologian or member of the religion will systematically try to teach me, the Hindu, the Muslim, the Christian, the Jew or the non-believer, his truth and show me my errors on which he will not “negotiate”. This is why religions can only show a fundamentalist face. Religions are the most segregating institutions on the face of the Earth.

Sorry, but this kind of dialogue is meaningless. Many if not all religions play the game of engaging in pseudo-dialogues. Because each of these religions proclaims to hold ‘The Truth’, this automatically excludes all other concepts of god. They proclaim to keep engaging in dialogue and call people into meeting other people: What for? If a given religion has all of the Truth and nothing but the Truth then dialogue is hypocrisy. Calling people into love, forgiveness, mercy, compassion, dialogue, tolerance, and mutual respect is an illusion, a delusion or at best a lie, because of the fact that this given religion has the Truth, period.
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01:16 PM on 06/27/2012
I am always astonished at the arrogance and disrespect of people who tell others what "god" says, is or wants. Whose God, Nature's God, The Great Spirit, The goddess, Athena, The Trinitarian 'Father God', The Giant Spaghetti Monster God? Is it the God that you wish, the God that you have a special connection with, that calls you on your cell phone at night or that you see in your crystal ball?

Just how do you communicate with this god that you pretend to know so well and that others can't see, hear or smell?
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larry cifuentes
09:08 AM on 06/27/2012
Sure the Pope and Billy and you Malcolm can get together; but without me present would be time wasted.