Richard Schiff

Richard Schiff

Posted: June 6, 2009 02:22 PM

SAG -- Just Say No? [UPDATED]

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UPDATE, 9pm EST, 6/7 :

Thank you for the respect. We should begin and end with that at the very least. Some of you who have stated your yes vote position make exceptional and heartfelt cases and who knows, you may very well be right. Perhaps a unification of unions two years hence is the way we will go. But my bigger point here is that the schisms within our union have been debilitating and destructive and have lead to the stagnating dilemma we find ourselves in now. Most of us have already voted so writing this piece was really more a call for unity regardless of how the vote turns. I happen to think the contract is beyond the realm of reason and respect but then again that comes from my disposition to the world.

It has nothing to do with whatever success I may have achieved -- I have been as unemployed and broke as the rest and remember those days as if it was yesterday. I have also been a member of nine different unions in all of those survival jobs along the way including the Teamsters and IBEW and The NYC Taxi Cab Union. I have just lobbied congress for the Employee Free Choice Act and had long discussions with Jimmy Hoffa, Jr. and AFL leadership. That is just a plea to the below the line mates who seem so angry and resentful. I am of the position that a fair deal that allows respect and living wages can be a boon for business in the long run. A craftsman in an earlier comment said he had moved on to other fields because of lack of work, Well, actors are doing the same thing because they can't make a living anymore -- some of whom I know and are wonderful at what they do. If all the best gaffers and electricians left filmmaking we would be in deep trouble to try and light our sets properly. So too when our best character actors are leaving the field -- there will be no one left to help elevate the stars and tell a story. And our product becomes less enjoyable and people stop paying and watching and we all lose.

I am one of the lucky ones, believe me I haven't forgotten that. So I would never try and coerce someone who is of a different disposition and whose priority is family first-- I just ask that they read the contract thoroughly before signing on lest they realize too late that their work will not be compensated down the road when we rely on it to keep our insurance payments and when we no longer can get a job.

To those who say that all unions should unite in two years time... well, our own union can't even find the same page much less get on it. I will be very curious to see how we can unite four different creative unions. Here's an idea... if the contract is voted down or if it isn't -- let's have all the other unions show solidarity and support right now! Why not send a message that if not now then soon we will all be united to forge out a fair deal that can help revive this dying industry. Killing any chance to make a living and sending workers running to other fields is certainly not the way -- that much I know.


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Original SAG -- Just Say No post:


I am far away from the fray. In London working for beans on toast and about to take another film here. As I contemplate the upcoming SAG contract vote I can't help but see the irony that this next film's subject is the 1968 women's strike for equal pay at the Dagenham Ford Motor plant. This movement began as just a job grade increase request whereby the women wanted to be deemed as skilled workers so they would get the relative pay increase accompanying such a classification. It snowballed into the first job action and strike for women's equal pay and led to a fundamental shift in the way women were treated in the work place world-wide.

England at the time was an economic disaster waiting to happen. Millions of workers went on strike every year trying to pound out a living wage and the environment was growing increasingly anti labor. So why was this women's strike effective? Because no one could deny the fundamental fairness of the women's position. Even as Ford shut down all production so as to incite the men to corral their female counterparts, the movement garnered its strength from the undeniable reality that they were on the right side of morality. That's not to say that the gains were easily won; that unity was a foregone conclusion; that fellow union rank and filers weren't antagonistic and combative; that fear of lost jobs and broken intra-union marriages weren't colossal obstacles. These women united in force through and despite the army of opposition and the clamors for common sense and reasonable capitulation for the sake of the plant, the industry and the country.

SAG members are hearing these same arguments as we contemplate this new albeit regressive contract. "The industry can't afford another strike." "The fall off for all other unions and support industries would be devastating to the local economy." And most significantly: "This is no time to strike; we all can't afford it."

What was the devastating effect on the Ford Dagenham plant strike? The plant is still there 40 years later and has thrived as one of Ford's most successful operations overseas or anywhere. Ford has been able to hold a solid share of the European market as a result and continues to be the most innovative of the American car companies recently creating a 70MPG diesel engine for the European Ford Fiesta (developed at Dagenham.) It is the only major American car company not beholden to tax payers for their survival and is the strongest amongst them looking forward. The Dagenham plant is the only industrial plant left in London proper. What a disaster!

There isn't a producer in Hollywood or an actor in SAG supportive of this contract who can look you in the eye and keep a straight face while telling you this contract is fair and right. It isn't. But it's up to SAG members to go on the website and read for themselves and judge accordingly. I dare you to do that and then conclude that it is fair to give away our future in new media; to compromise our marketability with product placement enforcement; to let our hard work go wasted with erosion of residuals for past work; and on and on.

SAG members supportive of the contract accuse their opponents of wanting a strike. That is similar to the tactic of the so-called pro-lifers who have named their opponents "pro abortion." There is no such thing as pro abortion. No one wants an abortion to ever have to happen -- it is a last resort that some believe should be the sole right of the woman to decide. There is no such thing as a pro striker. No one wants to have anyone suffer through the sacrifices and stress of a strike for themselves or all the collateral damage caused by it. But it is basic negotiation 101 that a union cannot negotiate with confidence without a unified rank and file. Schisms and splits have cursed our union for too long. The supporters of this contract have been undermining unity, from what I noticed personally at meetings, starting six months prior to the beginning of the negotiation process. Union members will remember an email campaign and subsequent meetings that called for disenfranchising thousands of SAG members because they didn't meet what was basically an arbitrary standard for "being a real actor." I went to one of these meetings and asked what the standard should be. Their reply would have relegated me without a vote for half of my career. Mind you, I see the validity in their argument on principle and I think "staked members" as they called them may be at an unfair disadvantage when votes are counted because issues are different for the various tiers (for lack of a better word) of membership. So let's address that sometime down the road. But engaging in a viral campaign that splits the union right before the onset of negotiations for the most important contract of our time? Really? No wonder Nick Counter and the producers were so easy and smug in their dismissals of reasonable demands. All they had to do was read the emails to know that the union was hopelessly paralyzed and split.

Ford Dagenham's auto workers were also violently split yet the right path emerged from the infighting and a unified front resulted in victory.

So the argument comes down to: "Is this really the right time?" "Can the industry survive?" It is only at times of economic stress that union action can be effective. In our country the economically depressed 1930's proved to be the most fruitful for the emergence of unions and a subsequent growth of the middle class. The entertainment industry has been bought out and taken over by goliath corporations. Oddly, these entertainment subsidiaries are likely to be the only aspect of these giants to be in profit at this time. Corporations can't afford another shut down -- even two years ago I don't think that was true since all other parts of the giant were more healthy and profitable and a shutdown in Hollywood had no great effect on their bigger bottom line. Not so anymore!

Now, at last and at least, the playing field is even. Both sides cannot afford a strike. So it comes down to who is more courageous and who is willing to fight for a right cause. If this were a western, we'd win the gunfight. If this was an intelligent western -- the bad guy would walk away knowing he can't possibly draw first.

And who knows, perhaps in the aftermath the industry will stop destroying itself and maybe 40 years hence we will be as lucky as the Ford Motor Company in Dagenham, England.

UPDATE, 9pm EST, 6/7 : Thank you for the respect. We should begin and end with that at the very least. Some of you who have stated your yes vote position make exceptional and heartfelt cases and wh...
UPDATE, 9pm EST, 6/7 : Thank you for the respect. We should begin and end with that at the very least. Some of you who have stated your yes vote position make exceptional and heartfelt cases and wh...
 
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The union most like SAG is not the auto workers', but that of pro baseball players. Both unions' members have strong influence in entertainment, one of the country's most thriving industries, due to the indispensibility of those members to the popularity of the field and therefore its profitability.

The SAG dispute was going to happen eventually anyway; TV and the Net have been on converging paths for many years, and the process would accelerate if the corporations could keep a greater share of the profits by stressing the new methods of distribution, if uncontracted-for. Might as well happen and get resolved now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 AM on 06/13/2009
- Bookkillrr I'm a Fan of Bookkillrr 13 fans permalink
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Remember when the Screen Actors Guild had a union ? Oh yah, back in 2009 they decided they could somehow figure it out by striking and those production companies decided this was a good time to just go video/digital and bypass SAG and go with AFTRA Oh yah, so that's how SAG ended. Yah. How could they be so dumb? Oh, that happens. Sometimes they get so old they forget the basics. SAG : Film
AFTRA : Video. Most shows shoot HiDef Video and then run it through a program to make it look like it was shot on film. No way. . . Way. No reason to fight with SAG. OK. That explains how SAG faded away in 2009.. Now I get it.
ok ok Wait... What about the Actors who were with SAG and then signed with AFTRA aren't they doing something wrong? Yes and no. The problem is, they think by going with the show that was SAG but is now switching to AFTRA they are just hanging out until SAG works it out. And they have ego's to feed and bills to pay. R.I.P. SAG It was a nice ride. Too bad everybody in charge was too old to figure this out before it was too late.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 AM on 06/09/2009

One of the basic qualifications to be a union member in most unions is that you are employed in the craft or industry that the union represents, that you are not employed as a supervisor as defined by the NLRB with the authority to either fire or hire.
It seems to me that if SAG is going to allow actors to also be producers, than those actors should lose their right to vote on crucial issues such as a strike! Or maybe SAG should organize producers.­..
Human nature does not permit us to be loyal to both. Either you're with the bosses or you are with the workers!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 AM on 06/09/2009
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Good to see you have some hope - albeit with a dash of pessimism. The unions can come together. There are more and more actor/prod­ucer/direc­tor/writer types - it's in all of our interests.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 AM on 06/09/2009

Thoughtful Updated post, Richard. I voted "yes," and had hoped to merge with AFTRA a few years ago. You are right to suggest we're not on the same page (or can't find it), but the landscape is changing fast. And maybe there will be a greater sense of urgency to get on the same page, especially with AFTRA taking over so much TV work. I would guess that there are a lot more AFTRA members in LA now than there were when the merger was voted down only a few years ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 PM on 06/08/2009
- gavrielle I'm a Fan of gavrielle 22 fans permalink

Mr. Schiff,

You have credentials of which any union member could be proud. You also have the kind of plainspoken everyman spirit I remember Ed Asner having. Perhaps you could follow in his footsteps?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 PM on 06/08/2009
- garymc8 I'm a Fan of garymc8 33 fans permalink

The Actors have always been tone deaf to prevailing economic conditions in respect to their calling a strike. Americans really don't care about some guy making an annual income from 1 commercial or a guest spot on a sitcom, when they are losing their jobs, houses and health insurance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 06/08/2009
- bardgal I'm a Fan of bardgal 9 fans permalink
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And when they get home after a hard day's work of looking for a job they want to escape and be entertained to keep their sanity. Even though they're everywhere, reality shows are not as widely watched as scripted shows which are now available as downloads and on hulu. Actors aren't getting paid for those downloads and web streams and will stay in their "day jobs" (most of us have to have them because there's just not enough work to go around and we too are "losing our day jobs and health insurance"), and give up driving across LA traffic for an audition because they lose money from the day gig, and can't afford the gas it takes to get there. The production staff (those that actually work full time) will be next to leave because everyone's union dues pay for the umbrella pension and health which will disappear.

You think there is crap TV & too much formula film now? You ain't seen nothing yet. You might like the escape that youtube provides with amateur video - but when it becomes all there is, and even the best talent abandons that because there's no money and it's no longer a launching platform to bigger things that can get me out of this horrible office job that barely pays me to stay in an LA apartment.­....... most actors don't make a living acting. Only .01% of SAG actors work full time, and most make scale - which is why residuals

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 06/09/2009
- zofo16 I'm a Fan of zofo16 2 fans permalink

Sir, in all due respect SAG has no one to blame for this situation but themselves.
SAG has become an utterly dysfunctional, disorganized, and some could argue obsolete institution.
I speak with producers (as well as actors) everyday who tell me horror stories of what it is like to try to work with your organization. They talk about the inherent almost institutionalized arrogance, as well as the incompetence. And no they do not say the same thing about AFTRA.
You had the wrong leadership, which pursued an incoherent negotiating strategy (what labor organization takes the strike option off the table prior to negotiations), at the worst possible time both in terms of the overall economy, the health of the industry itself, and in your own organizations political turmoil. There is only one way out of this whether it is the most pallatible or not. Hold your nose sign the contract, and find a way to come up with a cohesive proposal that will bring the exisiting unions together as one voice to build the foundations of a sustainable economic model that will carry this industry we all love forward for the next 50 years. Anything else is just counterproductive at this point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 PM on 06/08/2009
- creekside I'm a Fan of creekside 2 fans permalink

In my view a mistake was made when all of the above the line unions missed the opportunity to band together and negotiate en masse. If the writers had waited for SAG and the DGA contracts to expire you would have been a more formidable foe. Unfortunately the arrogance and incompetence of the SAG leadership made this an undesirable arrangement for the other guilds . The producers just smile and watch you cross each others picket lines, and the below the line locals lose sympathy as they struggle to pay their mortgages and are constantly asked to absorb the cuts that make it possible for there to be 8-10 producers on a job and double pop-out trailers for the overpaid stars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 AM on 06/09/2009
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In 27 hours we'll know exactly how the "negotiating team" insulted how many SAG members. Obviously they didn't brush up on Labor Relations 401-always reject the first offer. Geez, the Producers did. The "name stars" participating in the "yes" campaign are knuckleheads! Their interest is transparent! They are not concerned about new media residuals, they're only concerned about their Producers revenue, ex: HULU.

SAG leadership has put themselves in a position of quagmire: if they succeed they'll be hailed as brilliant, if they fail their heads will be called for. This is a bad contract. The p.r. money spent is a waste of my hard-earned dues. Where's the value of my money spent. Residuals are a life line for actors in between jobs. We just got sold down the river if this contract is ratified. The "interim negotiators" should be investigated about the $ squandered and what exactly is their financial interest..­.or should I say PAY-OFF

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 06/08/2009

My yes vote is in the mail to IVS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 PM on 06/08/2009

The idea that the people making the real money in Hollywood care about anybody but themselves is ludicrous. The environment created by Hollywood that creates this inequity is a result of the producers, directors, and stars. The stars were the big victims of the old Hollywood contract system. Now they treat those under them exactly the same but its o.k. for them mistreat others . Also, the social environment created by the Hollywood community is so destructive(and make no mistake they create this environment) and when you talk to them about it they will all have a smile on their face. Talk about people with an inflated sense of who they are and people with inflated senses of who they are can never be fair to anyone. BTW the reason there are so many actors is that the Hollywood support people make their money off encouraging people to take acting lessons, head shots, be in my theater group(no pay but there are dues), etc. And most the of the people who are exploiting these people, by taking their money and lying to them, know most they deliberately encourage, will never get anywhere in Hollywood. Also, If you think you have to be a good actor to be in Hollywood, you're not watching the product that's being put out. There are other things in Hollywood that will get you a career in movies and TV, and being a good actor is not necessarily, one of them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 06/08/2009
- Dannydel I'm a Fan of Dannydel 18 fans permalink
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You've covered it all, but pray they don't find out who you are..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 06/09/2009
- gino618 I'm a Fan of gino618 48 fans permalink

But.... I thought the big Hollywood stars, directors and producers were all such good progressives - promoting and voting for Obama and Dems.... making scathing films about the evils of the corporate world, right-wing politicians, and such....

Y'know... on the side of the little guy....

You mean it's all a lie? No way!

/sarc off

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 06/09/2009

Creative talent has always been shorted by producers in entertainment fields, so I don't doubt that the current proposal probably leaves a lot to be desired.

However conflating a valid push for pay equality with the notion that Britain in the later 1960s was being ruined by hostility to labour is insane. The absurd work rules of British trade unions in the period between before Thatcher was the ruin of the nation, and indeed the reason for the emergence of Thatcher.

Anyone hlding up British Trade unions of the period 1960-1980 as a good example of anything at all loses credibility.

And again the thought emerges. Not since the 1930s has there been a greater need for some type of organization to protect the interests of workers. And no model is more inappropriate for the task than the traditional union

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 PM on 06/08/2009
- gsuescum I'm a Fan of gsuescum 2 fans permalink

Wow. I just got off the phone with SAG a minute ago. I'm trying really hard to get an independent film off the ground and they are definitely not helpful. Roadblocks gallore and my rep actually got a bit hostile towards me because I was preparing the paperwork "way too early" for her convenience. :-(

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 AM on 06/08/2009

Mr. Schiff waded into turbulent waters and got an inkling of the nasty crosscurrents in our union.
Most people I know on both sides want the same things- a seat at the table and a fair chance to make a buck.

There are some nasty voices out there. (I would say more so on one side than the other.)
Nevertheless, there are some very smart minds that are equally sprinkled over both factions, too.

I think the decision in most minds boils down to one thing. Do we strike (or threaten to) now or wait two years.
There are no 'traitors' or 'sell-outs' or 'ignoramuses'. There are some angry name-callers, though.
But when you take away the 1% of the spittle sprayers, there remains a considered disagreement between well-meaning union members who will know the number of their ranks very soon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 AM on 06/08/2009
- mheister I'm a Fan of mheister 48 fans permalink
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Mr. Schiff, you write quite eloquently. I too would favor the creative guilds and AFTRA speaking with a single voice to the AMPTP.

However, SAG is still the big dog in the room, and should start acting like it. We need to organize, so that we speak with a single voice, a voice that's loud and clear and resonates with our power as a guild.

A united SAG will draw the WGA and AFTRA to it (can't speak for the DGA - too many hyphenate producers over there), but this will not happen unless we invest significant resources into organizing.

What's our current state in organizing? Abysmal. Ring up your friends at those other unions. Ask them what they're spending on organizing, how big their organizing staffs are. Then compare that to our union. We're shamefully unorganized.

We can't expect any other union to stand with us if we can't even get on our own two feet. Pass or reject, after this week's vote we have two years of hard work ahead of us if we expect the moguls on the other side of the table to show us any respect at all, and our fellow unions to see an equal they can stand with, shoulder-t­o-shoulder­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 AM on 06/08/2009

No offense, Mheister, but you're dead wrong on "a united SAG will draw the WGA and AFTRA to it ..." A few years back, members of AFTRA voted overwhelmingly to agree to a merger with SAG, and it was SAG's leadership and members that voted the merger down with a lot of terrible scare tactics. There are a lot of bad feelings from that and SAG has really no one to blame but themselves, and that's why they're so alone right now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 PM on 06/08/2009
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