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How Egypt Can Help Libya

Posted: 02/26/11 11:39 AM ET

The Libyan people deserve help in their fight against Gaddafi's butchers, but direct U.S. or European military intervention would have several drawbacks. Western troops, not speaking Arabic, would make deadly mistakes. Even if successful, this intervention would diminish
the sense of local and Arab ownership of the revolt.

I suggest that the UN Security Council invite Egypt to intervene, if Libyans approve. A small part of Egypt's army would dwarf Gaddafi's forces. Without even having to fight, it could join and support the Libyan rebel forces that have already liberated eastern and southern Libya. This would change the situation completely.

Gaddafi and his officers surely hope to reestablish their power over all of Libya by defeating the rebels one region at a time. If Gaddafi's troops crush opposition in the area of Tripoli, they might
then able to retake the east and south piece by piece from the small rebel forces. When they try, it will be very bloody. Against an Egyptian division or two, however, they would not dare try.

Once Gaddafi's forces realize they have no route to victory, I think most of them will desert, and Gaddafi will fall easily.

A neighbor's help would not have the drawbacks for Libya that Western intervention would have. I hope the Libyan rebels will be offered this option. If the Security Council is paralyzed, the rebels could declare themselves a government and ask Egypt for recognition and assistance.

Postscript:

As of March 7, it seems that Gaddafi has started attacking rebel towns.

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07:08 PM on 02/28/2011
R. Stallman, are you going to lead the advance into battle?

The Egyptians are going to need their army at home when the people discover that getting rid of Mubarak isn't going to change their economic or social situation.

(Watch for food prices to start rising rapidly in March-April........)
02:05 PM on 02/28/2011
The people of Libya are at a crucial moment, when some form of democratic self-rule can take hold. A military invasion by an outside force would destroy the grassroots nature of the uprising and crush any hope for a government run by the people themselves.

The US has proven, at the cost of hundreds of thousands of innocent lives, that you can't create democracy at gunpoint.

Military invasions serve only to reinforce the power of the powerful. They have no place in the formation of a democracy.
11:18 PM on 02/27/2011
absurd idea.
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02:50 PM on 02/27/2011
Dear Richard

Good idea. Might I suggest one modification. You stand in front of the small contingent of Egyptians and march into the bullets. Is it such a good idea now that your life is in jeopardy?

Offering the lives of others is easy. Risking your own is not. If the Lybians are to shake off their oppressor and create a lasting stable government of their own. Something that approaches or approximates democracy as we understand it. Then they have to do it on their own. And they will.
02:14 PM on 02/27/2011
good idea. makes sense to me.
01:36 PM on 02/27/2011
WTF? You've: a) obviously never been to North Africa; or studied its cultural and politial history. The post colonial neo-nationalism and tribalism overcomes ideas of brother Arabs (à la Pan Arab Nationalism) or Muslim unity. Especially Libya which espoused a very different approach to the state (not only preserving, but promoting the importance of tribal allegiance under the vision of Jamahiriya.) Those military forces that have switch sides to support the people would not be welcoming to a 'friendly invasion' and could switch back. If not for country for careerism (the Egyptian would make them obsolete). Secondly, what would Egypt have to gain? Their economy is still trying to recover from the protest. Prior to the revolt the economy wasn't swimming along either. Occupying a country is expensive, and once you’re the source of law and order how do you get out swiftly without all hell breaking loose? Or would they go there and expect the Libyans to pay for their service as liberators with oil, and refuse to leave until they have their share of the action. The fact is, true revolutions are bloody and can only be one by the people on the ground, not by a foreign or neighbouring intervention. As for UN invites to intervene, how great did that worked out great for Egypt and Jordan in Gaza and the West bank back in the day? It wasn't good for the local Palestinians or stability and peace.
08:56 AM on 02/27/2011
Are you joking? Egyptians will never fight and kill any libyans.
Are you wanting egyptians implement your "creative chaos"? No, thank you. Look at your own regime first and begin sweep in front of your own door.
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05:21 AM on 02/27/2011
Totally agree. It would also prove the Egyptian military is serious about a new era in their own country. They need to do this after they beat protestors in Tharir Square Friday, demanding the military sack the remaining Mubarak cronies in the government, release political prisoners and and lift the 30-year emergency law.
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08:31 PM on 02/26/2011
Gadaffi is accusing us, Egyptians, of inciting violence. Don't you think that would be a problem?
07:55 PM on 02/26/2011
I don't think Egypt should interfere. History showed, Syria's help in Lebanon in the mid-1970s ended up being a 30-year occupation of Lebanon, and the Lebanese, 5 years after Syria's withdrawal, is still paying a heavy toll from that occupation. The same thing could happen in Libya if Egypt goes in to help one party against the other.
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04:47 PM on 02/26/2011
So, your 'solution' to a civil war breaking out in Libya (it is less a popular uprising for democracy, and more a war between ethnic groups/regions to see which of them shall rule over the rest) is to call in an army that spent 30 years co-operating in the oppression of their population.
 
Why not suggest that it should be the Syrian army (the mismatch in available forces is at least as great) that is asked in to quell the bloodshed?
 
Or, if you are looking for a country in the region that has people have figured out how to create and maintain a federal democracy out of a country that is ethnically/culturally diverse, and has practice at how to deal with groups within that federal democracy that take the position that they should dominate, no matter what the rest of the population thinks, with a minimal disturbance to the rights of the rest of the population, including those who share much with those groups, except the decision to try and establish that dominance by force, why not look to Iran?
03:09 PM on 02/26/2011
Egypt is having enough trouble running it's own affairs.I think they would not be a good choice.
Only the Libyans as represented by the majority can solve their problems.
Let us al lbutt out!!