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Rick Jacobs

Rick Jacobs

Posted: September 9, 2007 09:57 PM

"Yes to Four More Years in Iraq" -- California Republican Party


As the Petraeus/Crocker show starts tomorrow, think about this: a Republican White House victory in 2008. That'd mean four more years in Iraq and who knows what in Iran. It'd mean four more years of torture in prisons, of wire tapping our phones and computers, of making the environment worse, not working to reverse the damage. Four more years sounds far- fetched, doesn't it? The "surge" has failed. America's low standing in the world is matched by that of Bush's standing in the US. The Republican presidential candidates are in disarray. The American people "get it." The Republicans can't win again in 2008, right?

The California Republican Party this morning seemed to agree that in a fair election, the Republicans lose. Noting that they could only attract John McCain to their confab (no other candidates bothered to show), seeing their own Governor Schwarzenegger chide them for being too far to the right, the delegates were clearly down in the mouth. The prospects indeed look dim. No one pays attention to them and they don't like anyone who's running.

So without a vision for a better world, what did they do? They passed a resolution endorsing the dirty tricks initiative that will simply steal the 2008 presidential election for whomever the Republicans finally dredge up. (I've been writing about this for a while because it will decide the outcome of the 2008 election.) With official Republican Party support, the backers of this outrageous initiative can almost assure that it'll be on the June 2008 ballot. That'll give the right wing party crazies led by their pro-war Chairman Ron Nehring something to cheer about: they can raise money and engage their shrinking base to come out and rig the election. Let's keep it simple: if this passes, we have to win Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida or some other tough combination of states in order to win the White House.

And even with that shrinking base, it could pass because we have three elections here in California next year. The June election will generate the lowest turn-out and therefore, with their obfuscation tactics on full display, they'll drive their own base to vote yes and hope their lies will confuse the others. At the least, we'll have to spend lots of money fighting it, a sort of classic spoiled child victory for the right wing either way.

Governor Schwarzenegger gave the delegates a talking to on Friday night, explaining that they had left the voters behind, that they had to address issues such as the environment and healthcare if they hoped to win another election. This was on the heels of his having called the Electoral College dirty tricks initiative part of a "loser's mentality" for those who seek to change the rules in the middle of the game. But the governor refused to go all the way: he would not say outright that he opposes the power grab, even though he calls himself post-partisan. I guess you can be post-partisan if you don't have real positions on tough issues.

Courage Campaign is running a netroots/grassroots effort to galvanize our base to kill this thing. If you think General Petraues and the Bush Administration endanger the nation, think about four more years of Fred Thompson or Mitt Romney or Rudy Giuliani. Think about four more years in Iraq. Think about invading Iran. We have to stand up now and say no. Not in California. Not in America.


 
 
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05:48 PM on 09/10/2007
We have everything to fear, including fear itself!
It is interesting how politicians would try to manipulate California to get it closer to one person one vote(electoral votes, as it may be), but oppose it on a national level. On a national level, the same strategy would shift the power to the populated states, who are largely Democrats. Not withstanding the polls, however, I'm not sure the Presidential outcome is so assured (except in California). Yes, President Bush's administration seems to be doing its best at losing the confidence of the American public, but where is the confidence in the Democratic leadership. The biggest fear of the American people is the fear of a leadership vacuum, nationally and on the world stage. On the one hand, get out of Iraq seems too simplistic, and global warming too distant. On the other hand, political corruption and manipulation of the public is reaching new levels of unacceptability. Seems like we everything to fear, including fear itself. I believe Bill Clinton has articulated the idea that the winner will be the candidate who projects the most positive message. Some of us are still listening to the vacuum of ideas in the current rhetoric. In the meanwhile, yes, kill the California Republican Party's "Assault on Reason".
04:00 PM on 09/10/2007
It is truly amazing that you on the left continue to misrepresent the truth. I have some questions: Who has the US tortured? Who has had their phone or computer tapped? Whose environment has been made bad by Republicans, and how do you expect man to change a naturally occurring event? I remember speaking to Dems on 9/12/01, who made the comment they were thankful, that no matter how it happened, the US was blessed that Al Gore lost in 2000. The country cannot be ruled by Dems, or the end of America will come, with illegal immigration, higher taxes, more government intrusion into our lives that makes the GOP "wire-taps" seem like the good old days, and no plan to fight terrorists, except to get them to talk about their feelings. If you think about it, we cannot afford Dems; at least I sure can't. I don't earn that much.
02:08 PM on 09/10/2007
So, you want to deny a constitutional right?
12:51 PM on 09/10/2007
What do would one expect from republicon conservatives???--If you can't win fair and square on the power of your ideas, values, etc. steal and "win" the vote in any fashion possible
12:20 PM on 09/10/2007
What do most Americans want ?

1. A well paying job.

2. Unemployment benefit that does not run out after 6 months.

3. Universal health care.

4. Decent social security pension in old age.

5. Get out of Iraq.

6. Less spending on the military.

Gay marriage and global warming are just red herrings to hype the ignorant.
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11:26 AM on 09/10/2007
Californians will fall for this just like they fell for Ah-nold.
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Been around for awhile!
11:11 AM on 09/10/2007
What and this surprises you? After 2000 and 2004, you thought maybe the Repubs would clean up their act? No, power is all that matters, so it doesn't matter how you take it. If the people of California fall for this crap, then were all screwed. Because we are already living under our little twit dictator, you know that's how they envision it. That their party will RULE all. Doesn't matter how immoral, inept, stupid or devoid of any kind of humanity if they have an R by their name then by God they must be a bible totin, God lovin, Flag wavin, Gun carrin, PATRIOT.
Pathetic bunch of scum.
10:53 AM on 09/10/2007
Yes, yes four more years of our guys and gals coming home in body bags. Four more years of our troops returning in boxes. Four more years of a country going bankrupt in every sense of the word. For more years of an electorate than doesn't even have the smarts to realize what is going on. Four more years. Hard to imagine - harder to understand.
12:59 PM on 09/10/2007
Yep-'fraid so reinadok. We asked for it. We're going to get it. So what do we do? Endure four more years of Iraq/Iran or go back to the Hill and Billery show? The ONLY candidate out there saying he'll end this dam war NOW is Bill Richardson. Hard to understand-not really when you look at how the American people will blubber all over themselves for glitz and style and flashy but empty rhetoric. If they didn't Ross Perot would have been elected in 92 and reelected in 96. Instead we got the aforementioned Hill and Billery show (or are you still thinking Bill Clinton was actually the president).
Bin Laden must be sitting back just puffing on a cigar and thinking to himself that all is proceeding as planned. Because it is by his lights.

We shall see what we shall see but be prepared to send your grade school kids to Iraq/Iran because at this pace that's where they'll be going.
10:51 AM on 09/10/2007
What are those of us outside California supposed to do to help? Since we can't vote against this ourselves, it would be helpful if you let us know what we *can* do. I don't like the thought that all the hard work being done in the other 49 depends on whether or not Californians are too lazy to go the polls to defeat this.

This article is incomplete. It simply says "here are dirty tricks, be afraid of them, and hope something good happens." It doesn't talk about any groups working against this or what a non-Californian can do to ensure that his/her vote matters in 2008.
enoughalready
WI soon to be liberated by the people!
10:51 AM on 09/10/2007
Is this "grab" even constitutional? If it can be stopped on constitutional grounds right now wouldn't that be the best case scenario?
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lostnacfgop
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10:47 AM on 09/10/2007
Ca GOP "chairman" Ron Goering - oh, I meant Nehring should be pummeled with the blunt instrument of his own verbiage. During the gathering Dukester storm, while Nehring was safely ensconced here in SD County, he blathered repeatedly about how the only thing the Poor Dukester had ever done was have some "inappropriate friendships." He kept parroting that apologetic nonsense up to within a few weeks of the crocodile-tearful guilty plea. He's a complete and utter buffoon, and should be force fed his own hypocritical statements to the point that nobody would believe him if he said the sun was going to rise in the East tomorrow.
10:38 AM on 09/10/2007
It'll be interesting to see them try to sell this. Will they point to the 2000 election and say "If they'd used this method in Florida George W Bush would have never been President"? That could sway some Dem voters if they aren't paying attention. If this passes there may never be another Dem elected President.
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10:06 AM on 09/10/2007
It seems Mr. Rove has more than one way to achieve his goal of making America a one party nation. He has substantially succeeded in making the Democrats in Congress irrelevant. Now if he can assure the WH will remain in Republican hands by rigging the Electoral College in it's favor, the Democrats will eventually just fade away.

The Republicans are desperate and will do anything to maintain their corrosive grip on power. The MSM will give little play to this initiative, or treat it as a side show. The truth is, if this bill gets on the ballot and wins a majority, America will be changed forever. This is on a par with FDR's attempt to stack the Supreme Court to assure passage of all his New Deal initiatives. That attempt to stack the deck in favor of a Democratic President was stopped, let's hope this attempt to stack the Electoral College in favor of one party is also stopped. For the good of this nation, this assault on the electoral process MUST be defeated at all costs.
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12:47 PM on 09/10/2007
We already are a one party nation. The party of MONEY & POWER.
09:46 AM on 09/10/2007
This Republican initiative will greatly diminish the importance of Calif. in elections.
09:28 AM on 09/10/2007
Personally, I feel that the electoral college should have been managed this way from the beginning. As a conservative who lived in California for almost nine years, I grew sick and tired of not having a voice in my government. Oh sure, sure, I was allowed to vote. But once the Democrat candidate reached that magical 51 percent of the vote, the whole damn state went to him/her. It's bs and it always has been. My only objection to changing it is that it should be changed in every state. Either that, or abolish the electoral college completely, but since that requires a constitutional amendment, this is much easier.