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Estrogen During Menopause: To Take, Or Not to Take?

Posted: 04/24/11 06:53 PM ET

Estrogen use for 11-plus years lowers breast cancer rates by 23 percent!!! It's the best news we've had in years! But instead of offering reassuring clarity in her column on April 9, Tara Parker Pope wrote, "Studies intended to be the last word on menopause revolutionized treatment, but they also led to confusion and debate. So what is the confusion and why the debate?

The response to this past week's Journal of the American Medical Association lead article should be a resounding "Relax! Treat your menopausal symptoms and be confident that you, as a young newly menopausal woman, have truck loads of science that confirm it's good for you!" (1).

If you take the time to read the article, the reassuring conclusions are that breast cancer is not caused by taking estrogen and is decreased in estrogen users. The huge majority of studies from the 1990's to the present confirm this very positive estrogen-alone finding. Confusion arose from the small but measurable negative effects of the synthetic progestin, Provera (Medroxy Progesterone Acetate, MPA) that was present in PremPro, and released with frightening negative media blitz in July, 2002 (the original WHI "HRT shock heard 'round the world" press release). MPA is not present in other formulations of hormones but has to be prescribed separately if desired for its uterine lining suppressive effects.

The intelligent clinician and consumer needs to see the delight as well as the devil in the details. And we are at a point of medical sophistication as well as consumer "demand-to-know" that clinicians simply have to become better informed and educated about the natural state of affairs for menopausal women as opposed to aging men.

All estrogen formulations are not alike! And they can have different long term effects! Just as intelligent consumers avoid trans fats at the grocery store, we need to "read the labels" and become informed about what is best for each of us as individuals, not as a "herd" of managed care members.

Tuesday, April 6 for a brief media moment, women could let go of breast cancer fears while taking estrogen for menopausal symptoms! Huge value exists in this latest research yet it has already faded from the scene, as "good news is not news." This latest huge study really is irrefutable confirmation of what many careful, thoughtful readers of the literature concluded as estrogen relates to women and healthy aging (doctors and researchers mostly are in this group). Here is the abiding kernel of truth: early replacement of estrogen in menopausal women prevents many of the measurable disadvantageous physiologic changes that sustained low estrogen create. The April 6, 2011, JAMA article provides important confirmation of not only our basic biology and hormone balance, but over the longer term 23 percent lower incidence of breast cancer and less risk for heart disease (10.7 years of follow up) in users of estrogen compared to women on dummy (placebo) pills.

The power of this information is huge. The simply written conclusion by the WHI investigators reads, "Among postmenopausal women with prior hysterectomy followed up for 10.7 years, CEE use for a median of 5.9 years was not associated with an increased or decreased risk of CHD, deep vein thrombosis, stroke, hip fracture, colorectal cancer, or total mortality. A decreased risk of breast cancer persisted in estrogen users compared to those women who took the placebo."

So why are we confused? And why does Dr. Joanne Manson not make a more definitive statement than that "...science worked the way its supposed to work," and then a non-sequitur about making sausage? We really do know better, and whatever is going on in science is not penetrating the media's message!

Responsible, cautious and concerned clinicians are outraged that such bland dispassionate comments dominate the landscape of women's health advice. And why quote Dr. Susan Love, a former breast surgeon turned self proclaimed righteous women's health advocate? Dr. Love has not practiced active patient care for quite some time now, neither in or out of the operating room. She is allowed her personal opinions but it is doubtful that any comment she may offer has power or relevancy to the thousands of highly symptomatic women who are desperate to sleep through the night, think clearly again, enjoy sex without pain of vaginal dryness and maintain optimal lean body mass, lower risk of diabetes, osteoporotic fractures and dementia.

We face a judgmental environment with unspoken negative views of estrogen hormone interventions as somehow being anti-feminist. It is unpopular to try to educate us about our own biologic inheritance and the (sorry) brutal biologic constraints that go along with the remarkable evolutionary biologic opportunity to conceive, gestate, give birth to and nurse offspring (we are amazing mammals!). The evolutionary selective pressure is for adaptation, not immortality. And what this simple fact yields biologically is that ovarian failure, in other words menopause, has no positive selective biologic pressure to make it a vigorous long term condition. It is simply the truth about our biology that for the vast majority of women, we need to replace what is insufficient, whether it is thyroid or estrogen, when glands cease to produce their health-supporting hormones.

As women let's reclaim our level heads! No longer should we be tossed around by every current trend or wind that hits our sails. We must demand our care providers present evidence-based information to guide our decisions regarding hormones, not fear generating sound bytes, (see The Pocket Guide to Bioidentical Hormones, Alpha Press, 2010, Ricki Pollycove, M.D., M.S., and The Hormone Decision, 2007, Rodale Press, by Tara Parker Pope).

Logical, plausible, coherent information that integrates principles of basic physiology, observed clinical outcomes and wise hormonal relief of menopausal symptoms is available to every woman. Women have to seek it and be confident in their own relief of troublesome symptoms, observe how each woman feels with the verifiable pure hormones she is prescribed, and the reliable, unbiased scientifically-documented information that exists.

Estrogen is a powerful antioxidant in breast tissue, blood vessels and acts favorably throughout the body. So it makes sense that the larger effect of estrogen will be health-enhancing in many organ systems, including the breast and cardiovascular systems. It is also well known that "bad things happen" with respect to heart disease risk factors in women once estrogen levels fall. Dr. Manson herself was lead author on another subset of this same post-hysterectomy population showing a decrease in coronary artery disease in estrogen users as compared to non users after 7.4 years (2). The simple conclusion of her coronary calcium investigation reads, "Among women 50-59 years old at enrollment, the calcified plaque burden in the coronary arteries after trial completion was lower in the women assigned to estrogen than those assigned to placebo." And heart health-enhancing effects of estrogen have been clearly shown for over 25 years in monkey models of menopause (work in Dr. Tom Clarkson's lab at Wake Forrest University) as well as being confirmed by more recent clinical studies in women (3).

Truck loads of data shout that for optimal prevention of heart disease timing is very important -- earlier is better (4). All sorts of clinical studies have pointed to this important heart disease risk reducing power of early estrogen administration in menopause yet consumers and clinicians remain paralyzed with fear.

The fact that some professional disagreement exists is not hard to explain, kind of like the two party system of government. Study design can be misleading and experts get invested in defending one trial over another. But the fact that reputable doctors still cling to old misconceptions is mystifying and disappointing. Starting hormones early in menopause (at least within the first 10 years) allows us optimal disease risk reduction for virtually all systems examined closely.

The facts are quite clear: women who do not take estrogen, as a group, suffer acceleration of disease risks (heart, bones, diabetes, loss of muscle mass, brain-neuron loss) after menopause. A deep inquiry into the neuroscience of estrogen and women's brains is sobering. Neurons are not as healthy or functional when deprived of estrogen (5). This is the brutal biologic truth and we need to stop wasting precious time!

Outliving our natural evolutionary life spans places women at greater risk for diseases as we age as compared to men (6). Lucky for them, men continue to produce ample amounts of estrogen (and testosterone, of course) well into their 80's and 90's! We are living longer and so now have the diseases of aging afflicting millions of women each year.

Estrogen is not the fountain of youth. It won't turn back the clock entirely. But it slows down the harmful effects of sustained low estrogen levels that accelerate aging processes of every organ system. For those women who have had a hysterectomy, as in this study, post menopausal estrogen is safe and can be easily tailored to meet each woman's personal needs.

And for those who still have their uterus, natural progesterone (often prescribed as Prometrium brand of micronized bioidentical FDA approved progesterone) or progesterone-like opposing progestin (such as Aygesten brand or Norethindrone generic) on a periodic basis, can be adjusted to each woman's life style and estrogen dose required to feel her best, keep the uterus healthy and avoid menopausal symptoms.

For more comprehensive information, and a quick read, see my book, The Pocket Guide to Bioidentical Hormones, Alpha Press, 2010. Each organ system and symptom complex is addressed chapter by chapter, paying attention to your unique menopausal experience and goals for optimal health and quality of life. The better the information, the more confident you will be in making the right health-enhancing choice.

References:
1. JAMA. 2011 Apr 6;305(13):1305-14.Health outcomes after stopping conjugated equine estrogens among postmenopausal women with prior hysterectomy: a randomized controlled trial. LaCroix AZ, Chlebowski RT, Manson JE
2. [Manson J et al, NEJM 2007, 356; 25, 2591-2602]
3. [Hodis HN, Assessing the Risks and benefits of Hormone Therapy in 2008: New evidence with regard to the heart. Cleveland Clinic J Med 75(4) May 2008, S1-S12]
4. [The Timing hypothesis, Sowers, MF, Randolph, J, et al, Arch Intern Med 2008; 168(19); 2146-2153]
5. [Morrison JH, Brinton RD et al, Symposium: "Estrogen and the Aging Brain. How basic Neuroscience can Inform Hormone Therapy in Women," J Neurosci Oct 2006, 26(41) 10332-10248].
6. ["The Evolutionary Origin and Significance of Menopause," in the journal, Menopause, Vol 18,number 3, pages 336-342, March 2011, by Pollycove R, Naftolin F, Simon, JA.]

 
 
 
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cats530
16 Trillion To Banksters Per GAO Audit
05:35 PM on 04/26/2011
I don't subscribe to Big Pharma's lies about estrogen. When the time comes for me to consider HRT, I'll probably side with Dr. John Lee's beliefs, have my hormonal levels tested and look for progesterone cream that is natural and plant-based. As a horse lover and animal lover, I also believe that the production methods of PRE(pregnant)MAR(mare)IN(urine) are cruel for mares/foals and unatural for women and will NEVER take it.
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02:34 PM on 04/26/2011
Twice I have taken low dose estrogen for menopause symptoms. The first time was about 3 years ago. Three months into taking it I developed severe migraines with auras (thus more dangerous) with each period which I had not experienced previously. In fact, I didn’t know what they were. I was immediately taken off of estrogen by my GP due to stroke risk. The migraines decreased but are still a big problem.

Five months ago my OB/GYN assured me that it was unlikely that the estrogen was causing the migraine issue and that it was OK to go back on it. I had tested for high testosterone levels and needed to do something about that. I was very excited because I feel better on all levels while on estrogen.

Three weeks ago I ended up in the ER unable to breathe with a blood clot in my right leg from my calf to my hip and a pulmonary embolism. None of the 5 doctors or anyone in the clinic or imaging department could believe that my relatively young age, non-smoking, not obese and mostly fit person could have a PE. The conclusion of all health care providers involved is that the only likely thing to cause both the original clot and the PE was the use of estrogen. I was told it was 50/50 that I made it.

Of course this won’t happen to everyone but it is a real risk. Everything is a trade off.
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gayleg
01:36 PM on 04/26/2011
I also don't understand how taking estrogen can help reduce risk of breast cancer when freinds of mine at high risk are now taking estrogen inhibitors. This makes no sense.
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gayleg
01:34 PM on 04/26/2011
"And for those who still have their uterus, natural progesterone (often prescribed as Prometrium brand of micronized bioidentical FDA approved progesterone) or progesterone-like opposing progestin (such as Aygesten brand or Norethindrone generic) on a periodic basis, can be adjusted to each woman's life style and estrogen dose required to feel her best, keep the uterus healthy and avoid menopausal symptoms."

Are these products created with horse urine? Any other animal urine? I don't feel I or anyone else should buy a hideously cruel product to stop hot flashes.
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cats530
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05:37 PM on 04/26/2011
Good for you! I won't buy Premarin either and frankly its my desire to contribute to Big Pharma as little as possible.
01:29 PM on 04/26/2011
I have been on hrt for over 10 years, I am well aware of the seesaw of information on risks and benefits. I remember the misery I (and my family) experienced without it, for me it's quality of life not quantity.
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12:36 PM on 04/26/2011
the fact is that most women who come down with breast cancer took hormones over years....study or no study...
12:02 PM on 04/26/2011
Question for the author: What is your opinion of drugs like Anastrozole? Several friends who have had ER and PR positive breast tumors take it. Some have been taking it for more than five years, which is the estimated prescribed amount of time it takes to rid the body of estrogen and progesterone. Maybe progestin - not clear on the difference.

The drug causes even among women who are post-menopausal, all the symptoms of menopause - night sweats, mental fatigue, the works. In the meantime, their bones are weakening at an accelerated level - a known drug side-effect.

Love to hear from someone in the field, if this drug is doing more harm than good.
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farmerlady
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11:53 AM on 04/26/2011
The trend of prescribing estrogen to delay the effects of aging needs to be reconsidered in a holistic sense. Estrogen can now be easily measured in drinking water all over the United States, as women on the Pill and others past childbearing age (who now also take estrogens) urinate and flush their toilets. This has had a devastating effect on wildlife and perhaps is causing birth defects in humans and some cancers. One study in Florida found that 25% of the men in the study area were infertile or subfertile. That doesn't just happen.

Additionally the new generation of pesticides are "estrogen imitators", so the impact is compounded. Dairy cattle are also fed hormones to boost their milk production--this has been determined to increase the cancer risk in humans.

We have to ask ourselves if all of this is worth it, just so women in their 50s don't have to feel like they're "getting old".
01:51 PM on 04/25/2011
For the life of me, I cannot understand why Premarin and Prempro are still being sold when there are better alternatives out there. I have been on bioidentical hormones (progesterone, testosterone, and just recently Bi/Est) for nearly 5 years--besides curing my hot flashes, it also got me off 6 medications (including antidepressants that too many doctors prescribe) and cured my hot flashes, seasonal allergies, restless leg syndrome, acid reflux, all in less than two weeks. My ostepenia is also cured, and I have more energy than at any time in my adult life. Oh, the 120 pounds I've lost is a bonus. If anyone would like a list of resources to help you find a doctor in your area (my own physician is in Southern CA, I travel from NC to be his patient) or learn more about BHRT including a list of recommended reading (including Dr. Lee's books---hi Virginia!) drop me an email at holyhormones@gmail.com. Best wishes to all for hormonal health.
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gayleg
01:39 PM on 04/26/2011
What does bioidentical mean exactly?
01:40 PM on 04/26/2011
Hi Holy and thank you for this post. I was "prescribed" bioidentical hormones by my surgeon after she removed part of my thyroid. I was elated as she had explained to me how effective they could be at treating the horrible effects menopause was having on my life. The problem however was that not only were they not covered by the formulary in my RX plan but few pharmacies even carried them and I live in the suburbs of a large metropolitan area. Have you found this to be true for you? If there is a way to reduce the monthly cost of the program I would take them in a heartbeat.
PATOISJAM
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10:55 AM on 04/25/2011
I learned my lesson well and that is why I don't take ANYTHING with hormones in it. I used Vagifem and unfortunately one the contraindications was melasma. Melasma is a darkening of the skin and it usually attacks the face. Let me tell you, no one I have ever met with melasma thinks that it is a great payoff for relieving menopausal symptoms and anything else. Melasma seriously affects one's mind and lifestyle. The primary medicine doctors give for melasma is hydroquinone which is another cancer-causing drug. My recommendation: De-stress, change and balance your diet, see a homeopath, exercise, laugh and dance. I hate drugs and most of all I HATE VAGIFEM. Manmade hormones are killers.
03:30 AM on 04/25/2011
This good news!! research about estrogen only applies to women without a uterus, yet this is only mentioned briefly at the end of the article. Very misleading. Furthermore, the British Million Women study showed a 30% increase in breast cancer in hysterectomized women using estrogen-only HRT, a 42% higher risk of central nervous system tumors, gliomas, meningiomas, and acoustic neuromas, and an increased risk of ovarian cancer (Beral et al). Thus the JAMA paper on heavily tweaked research using Premarin, which is only part estrogen, is hardly reassuring or conclusive. Although estrogen undoubtedly improves the health of some women, it should be used with caution, rather the unbridled and uninformed enthusiasm of a salesperson. As estrogen researcher Ercole Cavalieri states, "estrogen is the angel of life and the angel of death." Handle with care.
Virginia Hopkins
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nevadagirl
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11:51 AM on 04/26/2011
I take soy supplements and have very minor symptoms. Sure, there are some hot flashes and night sweats, but the two minutes I am overheated are not cancer.
01:44 PM on 04/26/2011
I see an endocrinologist specialized in hrt, his thoughts on premarin are what do women have in common with a pregnant mare? Good question, I take estradiol
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02:50 AM on 04/25/2011
I have consulted various doctors on this very subject and their answers have been conflicting. The literature I have read has only created confusion and some past anxiety. I had the privilege of being under the care of a brilliant NP for over a decade who specialized in menopausal treatment. I mourned her retirement as she became a friend as well as an astute, caring health provider.

I had been on HRT for many years after a hysterectomy at a young age due to complications with a dreadful IUD. My NP was a breast cancer survivor and still on hormones. I have never seen a more vital older woman who lead a full life between her work at a highly regarded medical facility as well as in her own adventurous leanings for hiking, biking, travel, etc....I have chosen to remain on hormones and feel wonderful. I am staying the course as I believe in my own self knowledge. I have watched friends go through normal menopause and suffer greatly.

Denial? Maybe but I am pleased to read this new information even knowing that soon there will be a counter argument. If I am wrong about my decision, I will have been grateful for the relief and energy that I have experienced by choosing longterm HRT after surgery.

There is artistry to the body and not everyone has the same experience. These studies are interesting but my days of being alarmed at every new finding are long gone.
12:35 AM on 04/25/2011
Thank you Dr Pollycove for your article. It is such a shame that we live in a world where doctors are so misguided when caring for menopausal women or should I say a lack of treatment. The information that you have provided in your article has been around for a long time. Women need to stop thinking that menopause is just a normal thing of getting older. It is not, it is organ failure plain and simple.
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farmerlady
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11:54 AM on 04/26/2011
Menopause is natural--happens to every woman, and has never proved fatal yet.
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gayleg
01:41 PM on 04/26/2011
Dude, getting older is not a disease.
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kathy001
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04:37 PM on 04/26/2011
Going through the many symptoms (it's not just hot flashes) of menopause can be just as debilitating as many diseases. Try it. You won't like it.
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little wing
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12:08 AM on 04/25/2011
So let me get this straight: After discontinuing the Estrogen-only arm of the trial after 7 years due to increased risk of stroke, 5 years later risk of stroke as well as breast cancer is down for those who were on estrogen.
In other words, if you are lucky enough to not have a stroke while on the medication, you are protected after discontinuing it.
It still sounds like a qualified risk to me, in contrast to Dr. Pollycove's reassuring exuberance that all is well.
It is well known that estrogen in general presents an additional risk factor for breast cancer, so the fact that the opposite was true is great. But it doesn't negate all the other data supporting estrogen as promoting cancer risk.
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ibivi
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06:58 AM on 04/25/2011
Getting unbiased results is the issue. If an independent party does the testing and the outcome shows increased cancer rates the drug companies then respond with their own tests showing the opposite. They have a vested interest in the outcome. Women who have debilitating menopausal symptoms seeking relief do better on estrogen and progesterone. A year or so on medications should help the transition. Anything longer than that is probably not recommended. The myths that "estrogen keeps you young" or that it protects your heart are totally false.
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nevadagirl
Socialist in high heels.
11:53 AM on 04/26/2011
How is a hot flash "debilitating"? I have been in menopause for seven years and I have never been debilitated by getting sweaty. Sure, there is a feeling sometimes that our bodies are betraying us as we age, but I'll take a hot flash over arthritis pain any day.
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cbk780
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07:19 PM on 04/24/2011
Perhaps the issue is that the study dealt with women who had had hysterectomies.

Can these results be extended to menopausal women whose uterus is intact?

Charlie